Bush On Gaza Fighting: Israel Has The Right To Protect Itself

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ROBERT BURNS | January 5, 2009 06:58 PM EST | AP

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President George W. Bush reflects on the crisis in Gaza as he speaks with reporters during his meeting with Sudan's First Vice President Salva Kiir in the Oval Office, at the White House in Washington, Monday, Jan. 5, 2009. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration stuck to its defense of Israel's expanding offensive in the Gaza Strip on Monday and pushed for a cease-fire including a lasting halt to Hamas' rocket attacks on Israel and a reopening of border crossings that are Gaza's economic lifeline.

President George W. Bush, in his first public comments on the conflict since Israel launched a ground offensive over the weekend, said the Jewish state was justified in protecting itself against Hamas militants.

"The situation now taking place in Gaza was caused by Hamas," Bush told reporters in the Oval Office, referring to the Islamist movement that rules Gaza and is deemed by Washington to be a terrorist group.

"Instead of caring about the people of Gaza, Hamas decided to use Gaza to launch rockets to kill innocent Israelis," Bush said. "Israel's obviously decided to protect herself and her people."

While France and many other countries have pressed for an immediate cease-fire, the United States has insisted that any truce be sustainable _ and that Hamas go first in ending the exchange of fire. Hamas has launched hundreds of rockets into southern Israel, while Israel has pursued a ferocious campaign that began as a week of aerial bombing and was expanded Saturday into a ground offensive.

Bush, without explicitly endorsing Israel's ground campaign, laid blame for the conflict squarely on Hamas. He said he hopes for a cease-fire but added that it would not work unless Hamas stops its attacks.

Bush also expressed concern about the grave humanitarian crisis in Gaza, where people have lived under hard and worsening conditions and Israeli bombardment. The violence must stop, Bush said, "but not at the expense of an agreement that does not prevent the crisis from happening again."

President-elect Barack Obama said that he's been getting daily briefings on the situation in the Middle East, but offered little comment beyond noting that "delicate negotiations are taking place" and that there can't be "two voices coming out of the United States."

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Obama's chief national security spokeswoman, Brooke Anderson, declined to comment on the three-point cease-fire proposal announced by the State Department, which was quickly rejected by a Hamas official as slanted in favor of Israel.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had 17 phone conversations over the weekend with foreign leaders in a bid for international consensus on those three points, which include a halt to Hamas' rocket firing into Israel.

The cease-fire proposal also would include a key Hamas demand: an arrangement for reopening crossing points on the border with Israel, McCormack said. The third element would address the tunnels into Gaza from Egypt through which Hamas has smuggled materials and arms.

"We're doing a lot of work on these three elements. The secretary is trying to get the international system and various actors in the international system to coalesce around those three elements," McCormack said.

McCormack said arrangements to reopen the border crossings could be worked out on the basis of a 2005 "movement and access" accord that has not been fully implemented by the Israelis and Palestinians. He said some additional equipment and technical expertise might have to be supplied as part of such an arrangement. He offered no further details.

In Damascus, Syria, a Hamas official rejected the U.S. proposal, saying it reflects the Israeli view. The deputy head of Hamas' political leadership in Syria, Moussa Abu Marzouk, told The Associated Press the U.S. plan would serve to encourage continued Israeli attacks, creating "more massacres" in Gaza.

Israel has said it intends to press its offensive until it silences the Hamas rockets, but it has been less explicit about its long-term objectives. A senior U.S. defense official said Monday that, so far, Americans see no indication inside Gaza that Israel is preparing for a long-term occupation of the territory. The defense official requested anonymity in order to discuss intelligence.

At the Pentagon, spokesman Bryan Whitman said Defense Secretary Robert Gates spoke Sunday with his Israeli counterpart, but Whitman declined to give details. About 100 American troops are in Israel to maintain and provide crew for an advanced U.S. radar that gives Israel early warning in case of a missile attack, Whitman said.

An Israeli official in Washington said Monday that his country is not seeking additional equipment or other U.S. military help. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe the country's discussions with the Bush administration, also said there are no plans to use cluster bombs in Gaza.

The State Department determined a year ago that Israel probably misused U.S.-made cluster bombs during its 2006 war with Hezbollah militants in Lebanon.

Cluster bomblets are packed by the hundreds into artillery shells, bombs or missiles, which scatter them over vast areas. Some fail to explode immediately. The unexploded bomblets can then lie dormant for years until they are disturbed, often by children attracted by their small size and bright colors.

The State Department has withheld direct comment on the Israel ground thrust into Gaza, which began Saturday. Pressed for comment Monday, McCormack said, "Every sovereign state has to decide for itself how best to defend itself." He also reiterated the administration's concern about the conflict's impact on civilians.

The Gaza crisis prompted Rice to cancel a long-planned trip to China this week. While Rice has been making phone calls to allies to foster a cease-fire in Gaza, McCormack said Monday that she has no current plans to visit the Mideast as part of that effort.

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Associated Press writers Ben Feller, Anne Gearan and Pauline Jelinek contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration stuck to its defense of Israel's expanding offensive in the Gaza Strip on Monday and pushed for a cease-fire including a lasting halt to Hamas' rocket attack...
WASHINGTON — The Bush administration stuck to its defense of Israel's expanding offensive in the Gaza Strip on Monday and pushed for a cease-fire including a lasting halt to Hamas' rocket attack...
 
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having allies is great, but when your friend/ally acts like terrorist, steallllers, and more you have to have the will power to step up and speak up about because how good of a "friend" are you if you don't be honest!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 01/05/2009
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I wish they'd stand on their own because I'm getting tired of pay Israel's bills.

It's time America flipped these leeches off the tit.

It's time for Israel to stand on it's own or fail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 01/05/2009
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Aid to:
Israel $5-Billion/yr
Egypt $3-Billion/yr
Lebanon $1.5-Billion/yr
etc..etc.. to ME nations

please do try to provide a supporting argument with your random opinions and chauvinistic prejudices.

If you try it, you will find that that fuzziness of your mind will actually start to formulate ideas more closely resembling reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 01/05/2009
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And why do you think you pay Egypt and Lebanon????/ To be "friends" with Israel. Total cash bill: $9.5 billion per year. Not to mention arms deals etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 01/05/2009

Only Israel supports America of those getting billions from us!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 01/05/2009

That would be fair enough. Since your tax dollars and most of the middle east is propping up Palestine, they'd have no chance of survival at all. A nice neat final solution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 01/05/2009
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Yes. Israel has the right to defend her people from unwanted Hamas attacks. May Israel put a nonsense to this illiterate attacks on her citizens. Palestine, Egypt and the Middle East must rise to condemn the Hamas who fired the first shot and took lives. Pity some 'innocent' people have to die, on both sides.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 01/05/2009
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something like THOUSANDS OF S H O T S.

Aprox 8000 rockets in the last eight years?
Between 3000 to 4500 rockets, mortars and missiles since Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza, in effect allowing the creation of a de facto state.

That is the launching of almost daily attacks (acts of w a r) upon a neighboring state

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 01/05/2009
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"in effect allowing the creation of a de facto state".

I am certain that you have never been to Gaza. I have, many times. It is an open air prison, not a de facto state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 01/05/2009
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WOW, you guys can post on this thread.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 01/05/2009

Thought you might find this interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 01/05/2009
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and I am trying

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 01/05/2009

What are the Palestinians supposed to do when Israel have taken away their dignity? Palestinians have been humiliated once and again and nobody say anything.

Enough of this carnage and massacre. I do not agree with Hamas but the Israeli response is clearly disproportionate. Have the Palestinians any right to demand minimum human rights to their situation? i

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 01/05/2009
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The response to that question is usually "they're already refugees, so let some other country take them." It will be an "interesting" day for Israel when China finally cuts up America's credit card.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 01/05/2009
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It's a really sad life living as refugees. Some americans would never understand the kind of life these people are living. So it's easy to condemn them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 01/05/2009

Arabs in Egypt and Jordan and Saudi Arabia must and should topple their corrupt regimes through popular uprising{Iranian style"} then install a true independent governments, that's the only way arabs can redeem themself,,,,,, is POPULAR UPRINGS, until then, Israel ain't going stop the onslaught in Gaza..but once again Arabs are different , they are no Iranians,,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 01/05/2009

Like anyone *cares* what Bush says about the Middle East ... or anything else for that matter?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 01/05/2009
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When is someone going to have the guts to tell Israel they are just flat out WRONG!!!

Tired of all the pandering in this country to Israel, while Israel spits on us and everyone else every chance they get. Geeze. The middle east stays screwed up. Oh yeag poor Israel - please...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 01/05/2009
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Obama needs to step up NOW. Be a man, Barack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 01/05/2009
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Does your definition of "being a man" include going off half-cocked about something you know very little about? Just a guess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 01/06/2009
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Your post reveals your BIAS and borders upon anti_semitism. If you have substantiating arguments to back up your wild-eyed opinion, we would love to hear from you.

You are fully entitled to your opinions, but remember that opinions are a dime a dozen. So yours are worth a little less than $0.01. $0.008 to be exact. You are confused as any clown who thinks empty assertions are arguments.

Anyone can have an opinion, but are yours informed? Prove it with a substantiating argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 01/05/2009
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Biased I'll give you (most people are). Ill-informed, sure. Facile, definitely. But I don't see any anti-semitism in that comment. I'd be careful throwing that phrase around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 01/05/2009
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Anti-semitism, blah blah blah. The exact kind of accusation that was leveled against patriotic Americans who were opposed to the Iraq War by calling them "unpatriotic". Thanks to people like you (and the government of Israel) the term "anti-semitism" will no longer carry any weight, but serve only as a weak and baseless smear against people of conscience. And just for your information, there are many, many, MANY Jews around the worold who are disgusted and horrified by what Israel is doing. I suppose THEY are "anti-Semitic" too..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 01/05/2009
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Arabs are semitic people too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 01/05/2009
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Ground troops don't work. Aerial bombings don't work. Why punish so many civilians for the crimes of the proportionately few? They need to use special intelligence and local authorities to solve terrorism, along with a network on a global scale. Americans should not have to pay tax dollars from out of our pockets for a war that is simply not effective. The Soviets learned this in the 80s. We're learning it now. So coyote4, clear your head and think rationally about this. I'm a stoic pragmatist. It either works or it doesn't. And it doesn't work. If you're really interested in solving the problems they're having, you'd want a solution that will actually end it. Right now, they're just slaughtering civilians and creating more terrorists. When will people learn?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 01/05/2009
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Stop hiding behind cries of anti-semitism, coward. The Palestinians (as well as all Arabs) are Semitic people, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 01/05/2009
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Far be it from me to defend Israel's actions (I can't defend either side). But what would you do if you were Israel and had rockets being lobbed over the border at you all the time? The fact that those rockets have done minimal damage so far doesn't change the fact that they're a constant threat. And the fact that they're rockets doing minimal damage is in part due to the fact that Israel has closed the border to potential suicide bombers.
So if Israel is wrong, what would be right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 01/05/2009
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The Palestinians were there before the Israelis. Gaza belongs to the Palestinians, and if the Israelis could let that little fact get into their heads, instead of acting like a nation of George W. Bushes, they would get along much better with their neighbors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 01/05/2009
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Great job, George.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 01/05/2009
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When did bush become someone worth listening to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 01/05/2009
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Just like the US had the right to "protect itself" by destroying Iraq? No, EXACTLY like.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 01/05/2009
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Just like the US had the right to "protect itself" by destroying Afghanistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 01/05/2009
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Any sympathy I had for Israel has vanished given their genocidal actions against all Palestinians..... Israel is wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 01/05/2009
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1)-THERE WAS A TRUCE.
2)-Hamas attempted to dig a tunnel into Isreal, perhaps to a_ttack and k_idnap more Isreali citizens.
3)-Isreal detected the tunnel and destroyed it and kllled 3 militants defending the tunnel. Isreal has the right to defend itself, especially considering that the last tunnel caused casualties and the kidnapping of a soldier that Gaza still holds.
4)-Hamas responded with the launching of over 200 rockets into its neighboring state, exclusively targeting civilian targets. Gaza has the right to retaliate.
5)-Isreal responded with a massive air attack on militant t_argets. Isreal has the right to both escalate and retaliate.
6)-Hamas said even before this escalation that they would explode suicide bombers amongst Isreali citizens, proving their t_errorist role.
7)-the W A R continues.....
8)-no one sues for PEACE

The chauvinistic prejudices of the far-left only add to the problem

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 01/05/2009
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sorry, Israel broke the truce first. Also, even if they DO get rid of Hamas, which I don't believe they will, they will STILL have more violence, because they have made enemies ALL OVER AGAIN of the Palestinians whose families they have selfishly killed. I'm so sick of hearing how it is all Hamas' fault cause they're hiding behind the families. ISRAEL knows they are still killing innocent people, and it STILL isn't stopping them! Violence only begets violence, and they are NOT stopping or solving anything with this disproportionate attack!!! When you're using rockets and missiles, there's NO SUCH THING as hitting ONLY your intended target. You hit a WIDE AREA and A WIDE RANGE of things and innocent people! Those morons(the Israelis doing this, not all Israelis) causing the violence along with Bush will NEVER learn!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 01/05/2009
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Israel is violating the fourth geneva convention rules pertaining to the protection of civillian persons in times of war, which was adopted on 12 aug 1949. Its not surprising that the U.S. under the Bush administration recognizes Israel violating the geneva convention rules, since their violating the third geneva convention rules pertaining to prisoners of war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 01/05/2009
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People writing about how both sides need to be granted "latitude"...
Who the h8ll are we to grant anyone anything?!
Let these two really duke it out! Whoever's left standing...fine.
What we need to do is get out of the way, stop playing sides, stop all aid (including weapons) and see what happens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 01/05/2009
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That would be fine except that we have armed Israel and continue to tolerate their violations of UN resolutions, dating back to 1967. No bias on our part - none. Why do you think we were attacked on 9/11? Oh yes, I remember...."they hate our freedom".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 01/05/2009

i noticed not one response in defence of israel. I might be stupid here, but why can't Iran, Syria, Lebanon and Hamas simply remove their call for the destruction of israel - that would seem to open the doors to some sort of deal. I mean, Egypt did it, Jordan did it, and they don't seem to have any issues anymore. anyone who puts its people and their security number one would certainly consider some elements that would support an opportunity for peace. It's not surrender, it's a negotiation. I think countries like lebanon, syria, palestine (territiory), etc. could really benefit by cutting a deal. i would assume money and support would flow into those countries once a deal is made for security and stability. final point: where are the other arab countries? if they really wanted to save the palestinians they could.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 01/05/2009

Wake up and smell some coffee...
Get some facts before you take any sides. Israel does not need anybody to defend it
and is past the time where it was fighting for its survival. All surrounding countries are
in peace with Israel. So far the only agressor we see is the country that has done
incursions in Lebanon, Gaza, Bombed Syria and what not...
This is a puny tiny country and needs to be put in check by a world coalition.
OK Hamas is wrong, but you do not expect people to stand still when a
there is an imposed all out trade blackade. Check the world pulse and you will see
that the world in particular Europe is growing tired and frustrated with israel and US
current administration. You got to be an obtuse mind to think that Israel is innocent in
this conflict.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 01/05/2009

All surrounding countries are at peace?

the dumbest statement yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 01/05/2009
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You are the one who needs coffee, my friend.

Hamas has said that it intends to destroy Israel, and has refused to compromise on this point. You may not want to believe it, but it is their stated policy and they mean to carry it out.

This leaves Israel two options:

1. Let Hamas kill them at will (ie fire rockets daily.)
2. Defend itself by going in and removing Hamas.

Israel first tried to remove Hamas through the blockade which you vilify. Now they are trying to remove Hamas through a ground assault that you vilify.

No options for Israel from you, eh? They should just let Hamas kill them?

What will you say to the parents of the Israeli children killed by Hamas. Will you say that you're sorry, or will you switch sides and vilify Hamas?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 01/05/2009
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I totally agree with you. What is wrong with this picture??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 01/05/2009
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You think the Israelis are going to give back the land they occupied to the Palestinians? don't think so. We call ourselves world's superpower, world's prefect or whatever so why should we wait for the arab countries? After calling the arabs terrorists why would you expect them to help the world's superpower? Yes they could save the Palestinians if they wanted to IF they weren't stop by America. Heck even the UN can't do anything since the US tried to stop everything they come up with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 01/05/2009

israel returned land it took in 1967 when Egypt and Jordan (among others) were at war with israel. it returned it in exchange for a peace treaty. the land it returned was vital to egypt (sinai) and to jordan. Syria wants the Golan heights which as extremely advantageous mountain range NNW of israel. I believe isreal may return it, but the peace agreement from syria must include others in the deal, such as hizb, since both syria and hizb are controlled by iran. my take... land for peace still has a place in this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 01/15/2009
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Save them how? Not militarily. Isr has at least 200 nukes, and wouldn't hesitate to use them against foreign capitals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 01/05/2009
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Bush said. "Israel's obviously decided to protect herself and her people." when did israel become a she?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 01/05/2009

a long time ago

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 01/05/2009
- comacoma I'm a Fan of comacoma 15 fans permalink

When did bush become someone worth listening to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 01/05/2009
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If you knew anything about Jewish history and tradition, which I'm guessing neither Bush nor you do, you would know that Israel has always been presented as the Bride of the Lord and the Jewish people, the Daughters of Zion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 01/05/2009
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