Ford's US Sales Drop 32 Percent In December

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TOM KRISHER | January 5, 2009 07:04 PM EST | AP

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Unsold 2009 Focus sedans sit at a Ford dealership in Denver on Sunday, Jan. 4, 2009. Ford Motor Company said Monday, that sales dropped 32 percent in December. (AP Photo/David Zalubowski)

DETROIT — Huge rebates and zero-percent loans couldn't overcome economic uncertainty as U.S. auto sales plunged 36 percent in December, capping a dismal year that saw sales free-fall by 2.9 million vehicles from 2007.

The bleak numbers, according to both industry officials and analysts, mean that record high rebates and low-interest financing deals will stick around until at least February. But those deals will likely disappear as the remaining 2008 models are sold and inventories are lowered to match demand.

One automaker, Hyundai Motor America, is trying to woo skittish buyers by promising to let them return cars for up to a year if they lose their jobs and can't make the payments.

Similar bold moves might be necessary throughout the year.

Every major manufacturer reported drops of more than 30 percent in December. Leading the largest year-over-year drop since the Arab oil embargo days of 1973-74 was struggling Chrysler LLC, which sold 53 percent fewer vehicles than last December and 30 percent fewer in 2008 than in 2007.

General Motors Corp. sold 2.9 million vehicles last year, the lowest number in 49 years.

U.S. auto sales tumbled to 13.2 million in 2008, down 18 percent from 16.1 million in 2007. Consulting firm IHS Global Insight predicts that U.S. sales will drop to 10.3 million this year as the economy continues to sputter.

Automakers were reluctant to predict when a recovery might occur, but most were pessimistic about the first quarter. After that, some were hopeful that President-elect Barack Obama's stimulus package would kick in, coupled with a loosening of credit that could bring people back to the showrooms.

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Even Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co., which earlier in the year had seen increases, saw declines in December that were larger than their U.S.-based competitors'. Toyota was down 37 percent and Honda 35 percent, compared with Ford Motor Co.'s 32 percent drop and GM's 31 percent slide. Nissan Motor Co. sales also dropped 31 percent.

Ford's sales for 2008 fell 21 percent from a year earlier, keeping the Dearborn automaker in third place in the U.S. auto sales race behind GM and Toyota for the second straight year.

Jim Lentz, president of Toyota Motor Sales USA, said Toyota is in the midst of the most difficult market it has ever faced, and the situation will be tough until at least the second half of the year. Consumer confidence remains the biggest obstacle, Lentz said.

"We have no illusions about the coming year," he said. "We're in the midst of the most challenging and volatile markets we've ever faced and it may get worse before it gets better."

Chrysler, which received $4 billion in federal loans, attributed its nasty sales drop to the company reducing sales to low-profit fleet buyers such as rental car companies.

Some smaller manufacturers, though, fared better. Subaru of America Inc. said its U.S. sales crept 0.3 percent higher in 2008 on stronger sales of its Forester and Impreza models.

Auto sales started the year slightly under 2007's pace, but by May, U.S.-based automakers were suffering as gasoline prices started to rise toward $4 per gallon and people shifted from buying pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles to smaller, more efficient cars.

Then, in July, as gas prices neared their peak and the economy started to falter, sales tumbled and never recovered the rest of the year, even though gas subsided to under $2 per gallon.

Lower gas prices have cut into high-mileage gas-electric hybrid vehicles toward the end of the year. Toyota reported sales of the Prius, the top-selling hybrid in the U.S., fell 45 percent last month.

But Lentz was optimistic that hybrid sales would rebound.

"We're going to see fuel prices creep up a bit," he said. "I think the overall greening of America is going to see an increase in hybrid (sales) as well."

GM's December results were boosted by heavy sales incentives, including financing offers announced last week after the Treasury Department said it would give $5 billion in federal aid to the Detroit automaker's ailing financing arm, GMAC LLC.

Michael Martin, who owns Chevrolet and Saturn dealerships in Manassas, Va., said he saw customer traffic and phone calls pick up almost immediately.

"I'd like to see (the financing offers) really take hold over the next 30 to 45 days," Martin said. "Hopefully, we'll start seeing some real upticks."

Incentives such as rebates and low-interest financing offered last month were the highest on record for a December, said Jesse Toprak, executive director of industry analysis for the Edmunds.com automotive Web site.

Rebates on full-size trucks were $7,000 to $8,000 in December, and IHS Global Insight analyst Aaron Bragman expects similar incentives as long as the economy is poor.

"You look in the paper and the deals on brand new GM pickups are astonishing," he said. "The discount that you get buys a heck of a lot of gasoline."

But Mark LaNeve, GM's vice president for North American marketing, said he expects sales incentives to drop as GM sells down 2008 models. It still will be competitive in areas such as midsize cars, where Toyota has been offering $3,500 incentives on its top-selling Camry model, LaNeve said.

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AP Auto Writers Kimberly S. Johnson in Detroit and Dan Strumpf and Bree Fowler in New York contributed to this report.

DETROIT — Huge rebates and zero-percent loans couldn't overcome economic uncertainty as U.S. auto sales plunged 36 percent in December, capping a dismal year that saw sales free-fall by 2.9 mill...
DETROIT — Huge rebates and zero-percent loans couldn't overcome economic uncertainty as U.S. auto sales plunged 36 percent in December, capping a dismal year that saw sales free-fall by 2.9 mill...
 
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Anyone want to compare the resale value of my Prius to your American made car? LOL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 01/06/2009
- Arthur954 I'm a Fan of Arthur954 5 fans permalink
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I dont see why all of a sudden American cars are so terrible. For sure, in the 80s and 90s Detroit produced a lot of junk, but the very recent sedans by Ford and GM look quite good. Chrysler however has good trucks and vans, but poor sedans

If Chrysler so decided, it could make very good looking sedans : after all, the Camry and Honda Accord are generic - looking, well - proportioned sedans, but not very distinctive. Chrysler has the best looking logo ( the winged one ) and a collection of signature, distinctive looks in headlights and grilles. Around 1998 they had some of the best concept cars and looks in the world, and that era produced the Concorde, the 300M, etc. Even the 97 Sebring Coupe was a quite good looking car.
With these signature looks combined with good modern sedan proportions ( they can take a look at the best Europeans, for example the Citroen C5 ) , Chrysler could have a range of gorgeous sedans. Unfortunately, they have a lot of catching up to do : GM and Ford are already producing good looking modern sedans, while Chrysler is not.

And as far as quality, I understand that if they so determine, Chrysler can make well - built cars . It seems that the know - how is accesible to everyone in the business.
Lets support our manufacturing during these tough times, and give them a chance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 01/06/2009

most people buy cars hoping it will last 200K miles. american cars "usually" dont.

Even if american companies make comparable cars today, it takes a long time to retrieve lost brand image. give it a few more years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 01/06/2009

American cars are not "suddenly" terrible. They were always terrible and have never gotten substantially better.

The problem of the US car industry is not quality, right now, anyway. It's profitability. They can't seem to make cars at anything but a loss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 01/06/2009
- rkimball I'm a Fan of rkimball 3 fans permalink

ford sales drops 32%.
toyota drops 37%.

congradulations to ford. it is 5% ahead of toyota.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 AM on 01/06/2009

Except that Toyota is making money on each car and Ford is still losing money on every sale. You need to look at what's really important, not just at what's on the front page.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 01/06/2009
- Arthur954 I'm a Fan of Arthur954 5 fans permalink
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I hope we have public health care and retirement as soon as possible, that would help for sure to make more profit on each car.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 01/06/2009

F is at least better than GM.

GM has lost more money in its entire history than it has made. Check latest GM balance sheet and on the right hand side look at retained earnings. its approximately negative 38 billion.

thats NEGATIVE 38 billion.

next step, look up definition of retained earnings if you didnt take accounting in school.

next, raise your hand and say no bailout. a company that has overall lost more money in its history (and by that much) deserves to be put out to pasture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 01/06/2009
- steveRB I'm a Fan of steveRB 4 fans permalink

detroit should ask the wise congressmen/women how to run an auto company. if there is anything congress knows, it is how to be fiscally responsible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 01/05/2009
- 23000Days I'm a Fan of 23000Days 51 fans permalink
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This article is the usual confusing result one gets when one tries to covert charts or graphs into conversational english: too wordy and too confusing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 01/05/2009
- tbirdalum I'm a Fan of tbirdalum 22 fans permalink
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Oh, yea, I'm going to hurry right down to buy that 5mpg dump truck that can park itself. You just hold your breath till I get there. With the prospect of oil and gas rising again why the average workers would buy a gas guzzler is beyond me. I'll keep my 95 camry and keep it tuned up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 01/05/2009
- michmudder I'm a Fan of michmudder 3 fans permalink

I too don't know why an average worker would want to buy a Lexus that can park itself or a gas-guzzling Toyota Tundra. Your 95 Camry should be just fine. Or save your money for a 41mpg city Fusion hyvrid or an electic Volt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 01/05/2009

Yep. GM Volt, that's a winner.

Go buy some GM stock while it is cheap. The GM Volt will make you rich beyond your imagination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 01/06/2009
- MESGAIN26 I'm a Fan of MESGAIN26 11 fans permalink

WASN''T IT JUST 2WEEKS AGO GOP WAS BRAGGING ABOUT THESE TWO COMPANYS SO MUCH FOR THAT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 01/05/2009
- Loisebby I'm a Fan of Loisebby 2 fans permalink

I have had one of my best years in the car business. I have worked for Ford, Kia, Toyota, Subaru and GM (Caddilacs)... I'm the finance guy who tells you what your final payment will be... In the good 'ole days I could get someone making $14/hr a $600/mth car payment. Criminal I know!!! Can't do that these days - although i can get you a $500/mth payment making $15/hr... Criminal I know!!! I laugh when banks will give me such a rate... ...so why people are scared to buy a new car (long as your job is safe) is beyond me. Not much has changed in the banking world - so go out and a buy a new car...

You can get your best deals right now - just remember never to pay more than INVOICE - generally I would say pay $200 less INVOICE... When you come see me in the finance office - I will tell you what you need and 95% you'll sign your name away... ...only a handful of you will ever question me... So when you go out and buy a new car this week, remember one thing. That EXTENDED WARRANTY you buy for your new vehicle - take the price they give you divide it a half and add $75. Do not pay any more than that...

Happy shopping!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 01/05/2009
- kozy I'm a Fan of kozy 15 fans permalink

Sales of all U.S. and Japanese new autos have been down more than 30 percent for two months in a row (Nov. and Dec.). I keep hearing that WHEN AUTO SALES START INCREASING AGAIN then blah, blah, blah will happen and we will all live happily ever after. But, what if this is a permanent downward shift, with sales continuing at 70% of their former levels for say 10 years or so. Its very possible. Why? Are people's wages increasing? No. Is their job security improving? No. Are cars getting cheaper? No. Are people still as anxious to become indentured servants to debt like they were when their homes were increasing in value? No. I bought a new U.S. made pickup truck in December and paid cash. Easy credit doesn't necessarily mean people want to get into debt. The auto industry worldwide may have to adjust to a lot lower volume.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 01/05/2009

Hahaha. Hilarious dude.

At first we all thought you were kidding, but when you proved that you could not even spell "CADILLAC", we knew you were just another uneducated lot lizard, err, car salesman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 01/05/2009

ROFLMAO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 01/06/2009
- Loisebby I'm a Fan of Loisebby 2 fans permalink

Didn't realize I was going to be graded on my spelling - will have to proof read my prose next time around. A Word Smith I am not, though numbers i'm pretty good with. As an uneducated lot lizard as you mentioned, I made just shy of $24G/month working four days a week in 08.

"Be'in kar sailsman gav mee tyme to get edikated at a kollege butt be'in a fynance guy y wood eye want two leaf mak'in the monee that eye make. My degre hangs on my wall in the bazment of my paid four home."

Make a lot lizard happy this weekend Scotty and go out and buy a car - that is if you can get financed!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 01/06/2009
- jerrypl I'm a Fan of jerrypl 48 fans permalink
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If the automakers want to see an increase in sales, then why don't they give the new buyer a full lifetime warranty for the time they own the car? But they don't. Oh well. Unless working America has to buy a car, they will do with what they have not knowing what the economy will look like in 6 months. That makes total sense. Unless the automakers give the consumer a real reason to buy new, they won't.

http://eye-on-washington.blogspot. com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 01/05/2009
- MadamRoma I'm a Fan of MadamRoma 11 fans permalink

Why didn't the headlines read, TOYOTA SALES FALL 37%, you have no answer do you, what a crock.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 01/05/2009
- michmudder I'm a Fan of michmudder 3 fans permalink

Because as every HuffPo reader knows, Toyota walks on water. In fact, they are designing a solar car that can go 0-60 mph in 2 seconds. Nevermind the laws of physics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 01/05/2009
- Lib2daBone I'm a Fan of Lib2daBone 3 fans permalink

I'd love to have a new Ford -150 Truck! The 2009's are quiet riding..engineered tough... fit and finish is very nice. 4 door with leather interior please.

Only problem, I don't have a job. And the Republicans along with the Wimp-out DEMS dont want me to have a job.

Can I have a truck for free? Why not? We just gave the CEO's $700 Billion?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 01/05/2009
- TooLooze I'm a Fan of TooLooze 3 fans permalink
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Sorry, you have to indulge in shortsighted or nefarious business practices to be eligible for a bailout. Mom and Pop don't qualify.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 01/05/2009
- kozy I'm a Fan of kozy 15 fans permalink

I for one would feel better if $20,000 of the $700 billion was spent to give you a new truck and the rest could be spent giving 35 million of these new trucks to everyone else that needs one. Why would I favor that? Because it would jump start the economy. Demand for auto products would soar like they did after WW-II -- a huge backlog of orders that would jump start the auto auto industry, the auto parts industry, increase employment, which would increase purchasing power and eventually spread through the whole economy. Instead the government has squandered about 8 trillion in bailout and TARP funds to funnel money through banks to pay off wealthy losers of the worldwide Ponzi scam also called derivatives, credit default swaps, collateralized debt obligations, blah, blah, blah ..... You can't have your new truck OR a job because THAT capital went to an irresponsible gambler that the irresposible banker has to partially reimburse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 01/05/2009
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I have a 1999 Chrysler Sebring convertible. It's the best car I've ever owned. Nothing has ever gone wrong with it. Now and then I think of buy a "new" car. But why? There's nothing wrong with mine, including the design, which has held up just fine over the years. When I hear the Republican Pod People talking about how the auto union contracts add a couple of thousand to the price of a car, I say, so what? There are some great American cars.

Buying American is a political act, an act of love, an act of patriotism. Support our boys and girls in (union) uniform! And ... get rid of the Republican Pod People.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 01/05/2009

an act of patriotism. ?????

patriotism is the last resort of scoundrels !! said someone :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 01/06/2009

"I have a 1999 Chrysler Sebring convertible. It's the best car I've ever owned."

If you never owned a better car than that I feel really sorry for you. OK, it probably beats a VW Beetle... but not much more than that.

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 01/06/2009
- EinChicago I'm a Fan of EinChicago 33 fans permalink

Says teh Prius driver. Still, at least with a Prius, you can probably get better quality spare plastic to patch it at wal-mart. They're all made in the same chinese factories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 AM on 01/06/2009

I drive a 300M ín Germany. The car was a steal as literally Germans hate American cars. Bought it 2 years old for peanuts. Gives you the comfort and the ride of its German competitors for the price of a VW Golf. When it came out in 1999, all the car magazines gave it bad rewievs. This is tradition in Germany as these magazines are paid off by the German car industry. Prior to the 300M I had a Dodge Spirit, different class but never let me down as well. Having a car is always a very personal experience. You might be happy and your neighbor has a lemon of the same kind of car. I will not hesitate to buy more American products, can't understand why people have to badmouth it all the time.

Regards from Cologne, Germany

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 01/06/2009
- EinChicago I'm a Fan of EinChicago 33 fans permalink

"The car was a steal as literally Germans hate Americans"

Corrected for accuracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 AM on 01/06/2009
- Teritt I'm a Fan of Teritt 9 fans permalink

I have a 1997 Porsche 911 (last of the air cooleds) and a 2004 GMC Sierra truck - both have approximately 120,000+ miles on them. Want to guess which one cost me more to fix / maintain? I'm not getting rid of either of them....maybe if I make it until retirement I'll trade the truck in on a new one. I don't understand why people have to badmouth them either.

Danke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 01/06/2009
- markinaz I'm a Fan of markinaz 3 fans permalink

It's a shame. Chrysler made some awesome cars in the 50's and 60's, but like Packard and Nash and Desoto it has become a dinosaur and it's time has past. NO MORE BAILOUTS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 01/05/2009
- Merckx I'm a Fan of Merckx 19 fans permalink
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Last time I had a decent job I bought a 99 Chrysler LHS. It's the best car I've ever owned and I have owned 2 BMW's, 2 Honda's etc. Don't knock a new Chrysler unless you've driven one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 01/05/2009

You mean "Don't drive a Chrysler unless you are knocked!", don't you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 AM on 01/06/2009

We have a 2003 Chrysler Grand Caravan with 105 thousand miles on it. It is the best car I've ever owned. Everything is so well designed and functional. Have basically done oil changes and not much else besides brakes that I can remember. Great vehicle for the family. Good gas mileage too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 01/05/2009

i love you Huffington Post, but why the headline on page one, Ford PLUMMETS 32%, Toyota DOWN 37%? why do you play into the MM's anti-Detroit bias? i really expect more of you. i've been following cars my entire life, and today's Detroit products are some of the best cars ON THE PLANET. the BIG story here, is the fact that the imports are down more than Ford or GM, or the fact that Chrysler, which is basically gone already, after being decimated by Mercedes, is down 52%.

why can't you report the facts as is, without a bias? if 32% is plummeting, then 37% is not just 'down.'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 01/05/2009
- Cinderpath I'm a Fan of Cinderpath 4 fans permalink

Thank you artandcolour! That is the truth. The big story is that indeed Ford and GM did better than Honda,Toyota, and Nissan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 01/05/2009
- ltyler01 I'm a Fan of ltyler01 8 fans permalink
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I really like what GM has done with the Cadillac line. I like what Ford has done with Lincoln and the new F150.

As earlier stated..."the illusion of Asian car companies making better products than the domestics is a myth"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 01/05/2009
- MadamRoma I'm a Fan of MadamRoma 11 fans permalink

Thank You Thank You, this site as all the media is so ante Detroit it is shameful. It makes me wonder if it's not because of all the money Toyota pay out for advertising, whatever it needs to stop. Toyota is on the skids quality and sales wise and the media is trying to hide it. BUY AMERICAN AND SAVE YOUR JOBS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 01/05/2009
- michmudder I'm a Fan of michmudder 3 fans permalink

I completely agree. HuffPo is 100% biased against Detroit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 01/05/2009
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 376 fans permalink
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To be fair, Toyota hasn't been asking for a handout from the US government. They've probably asked for one from the Japanese government, but I wouldn't expect that to be a big story in the US media.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 01/05/2009
- findmind I'm a Fan of findmind 7 fans permalink
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They did get help from their government and so did the German Companies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 01/06/2009
- cruzy I'm a Fan of cruzy 9 fans permalink

You might try reading the whole article. Ford's sales are down 32% for December, but 21% for the entire year compared from 2007 to 2008. In comparison, while Toyota did have a steeper drop in December, it's sales are only down 16% for the entire year compared to last year. So, Ford on an annual basis did have a steeper decline in sales. In any event, Toyota has long been a much larger company and a much more profitable company than Ford--even with Toyota posting its first loss in 71 years, the losses are much less than Ford's losses. There is nothing "anti-Detroit" about it. I am not saying Detroit makes bad cars, but the facts are the facts. GM, Ford, and Chrysler have been less profitable than Japanese automakers for the past few years, long before the high gas prices or the "credit crunch." More Americans have been willing, whether it makes sense or not, to pay MORE money for non-Big 3 cars. Avoiding the truth does nothing to change the situation around. The Big 3 have an image problem, largely of their own making, and they need to restore their trust with the American public. They also need to continue restructuring their operations--cutting models, eliminating dealerships, reforming management, etc. And I'm not blaming the unions, the problem was long the poor management. It is interesting that while Toyota made record profits, its CEO was paid many times less than the Big 3 executives.

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