State Money: Obama Set To Battle GOP

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January 6, 2009 09:59 AM

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Following a series of meetings with lawmakers on Monday, President-elect Barack Obama has seemingly bolstered even further his chance of passing a massive economic stimulus package shortly after taking office.

Republicans in the Senate have raised concerns about hasty passage of a bill that contains sizable domestic spending. But the Obama team largely pacified these concerns on Sunday, when they said that the stimulus would include a heavy portion of tax cuts for the middle class and would not likely pass the president's desk during his first days in office.

Now, following Monday's meetings, Republicans in Washington have found a new cause: limiting the amount of federal cash sent to ailing states.

Over the past few days, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has pushed the idea that any money given to states facing budget shortfalls be in the form of loans rather than grants. It is a softening of the previous GOP stance that no money should be given to the states at all. But it still puts the party at odds with the incoming administration.

Here's why. Economists in touch with the transition team argue that if job creation or job loss prevention is the ultimate goal of the next president, state aid must be one of the chief vehicles. Without meeting their budgets, states and localities will have to cut payrolls sharply. Policeman, teachers, social workers and other employees will see their jobs slashed. According to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, "At least 44 states faced or are facing shortfalls in their budgets for this and/or next year." This past week, meanwhile, a group of Democratic governors urged Obama to pass a $1 trillion stimulus -- far larger than that which has been anticipated -- to help stem the fiscal bleeding.

Hoping to split the difference between state needs and budgetary prudence, GOP officials have looked to loans over grants. But even here, Democrats are likely to object.

"Republicans feel they can't stand in the way of assistance to their own states, but want to limit the credit Obama gets from them," explained Robert Shapiro, formerly the undersecretary of commerce in the Clinton administration and currently the head of Sonecon, LLC, an economic consulting firm. "Loans have to be paid back with interest, which would force states to make even larger and more sustained cutbacks later."

Shapiro suggested that the GOP was trying to impose a mandate it doesn't have. "Conservatives, having lost the argument to cut back government at the national level -- under a conservative Republican president and Congress, no less -- now want to use the federal government to drive long-term cutbacks in state and local government. For these conservatives, elections have no consequences -- unless, of course, they win them!"

Following a series of meetings with lawmakers on Monday, President-elect Barack Obama has seemingly bolstered even further his chance of passing a massive economic stimulus package shortly after takin...
Following a series of meetings with lawmakers on Monday, President-elect Barack Obama has seemingly bolstered even further his chance of passing a massive economic stimulus package shortly after takin...
 
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How many people believe that if the states are given money that any of it will pass through to cities where infrastructures are crumbling. The state governments will use the monies for their own budget balancing and projects. The infighting in Georgia will be unbelievable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 01/06/2009
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The outfighting was unbelievable itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 01/06/2009
- vjoseph I'm a Fan of vjoseph 66 fans permalink
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Tell me about it! Although I do not like Shirley Franklin having access to that much money

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 01/06/2009
- lagumbo I'm a Fan of lagumbo 40 fans permalink

The republicans haven't got a leg to stand on. They will complain and complain because they are no longer running this country in the ground. They better get use to it , this is OBAMA'S country now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 01/06/2009
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Right on...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 01/06/2009

All of a sudden, the GOP has concerns about the deficit. If you look at American history, we have always had budget deficits and how long have we heard our children and grand children will have to pay for it. What a farce. If they are going to have to pay, they might as well get something out of it now. The GOP never complained about the deficit when it came to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, low taxes for the wealthy, no bid contract, one sided trade deals, the $9 billion dollar that disappeared in Iraq, or the bail out of foreign banks and companies that were cheated by Wall Street. The companies involved in the derivatives and trade swaps got to keep the money they made over the last eight years while the main street taxpayers pay for all of the bailouts. Hell the wars are not even in the budget, those costs are supplements to the budget.

We should not allow the GOP to stall what needed for America. If the American people were happy about the shape our country is in, we would have reelected the GOP and that did not happen. They had their opportunity to do something for America, and look at America after their leadership. Not a pretty picture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 01/07/2009
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Mitch McConnell wants what forms of political corruption and/or personal depravity publicized and prosecuted? His opposition to *every* possible remedy to the cynical Milton Friedman economic shock therapy administered over the past 9 years are either intended as fighting words or a desperate subconscious plea to be held accountable for something too horrible for him to name. Whatever, his "ideas" or horrible for real Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 01/06/2009
- badfluffy I'm a Fan of badfluffy 5 fans permalink

Dear g o p...
shudup and sidown.
Competency is here now it is time for your nap

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 01/06/2009
- bob8jv I'm a Fan of bob8jv 4 fans permalink

The American people gave Obama power to make huge changes during his first term because we agree with his policies. But we will hold him accountable if he fails to do the following. 1. To remove from office those who failed to start Bush & Cheney impeachment preceding, allowing them to continue damaging our country. 2. To bring to justice Bush, Cheney, and those in his administration that committed crimes. The losing of congressional seats in the pass few elections will continue in future elections, hopefully in greater numbers, until the cleansing process has been completed. If governmental officials are not made accountable for their actions, then our democracy will severely suffer the loss of respect, credibility, and accountability around the world, and our national security will be threatened. There is also no deterrence in preventing future occurrences. We must not allow this to happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 01/06/2009
- bob8jv I'm a Fan of bob8jv 4 fans permalink

The American people know that collectively we have the power to. 1. Make Investment companies accountable for how they use our 700B tax dollars. 2. Make Banks accountable for how they help home owners and how they spend our 700B tax dollars. By transferring all of our 401k, 403b, stock market investments, etc. into companies saving accounts and Credit Unions CD,s, etc. These safe investments will give us peace of mind, and control our natural greed instinct. Those safe investments will grow in fair to good times around five through eight percent. This is much better then investing in corrupted investment companies that abuse their investors and continue to pay CEO,s huge salaries and bonuses. Also, many Credit Unions run their business with integrity, pay their CEO,s fair salaries, and often have better saving rates then banks. By switching to Credit Unions the banks will be forced to change their policies. They must let us know how they are spending our tax dollars and how they are helping home owners across the country. We must not allow our tax dollars to go down the drain. The Government has failed to protect the American people. We must protect ourselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 01/06/2009

Ah,the power of the people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 01/07/2009
- bob8jv I'm a Fan of bob8jv 4 fans permalink

We are so sick and tired of hearing over and over the narrow-minded Republicans ideology that Corporate America creates jobs. At the same time, we hear that the American workers are by far the best workers in the world. So, that means that the American workers are totally responsible for corporate America success and continue success once the jobs are created. What is so idiotic about the Republican ideology, is that they are blinded to the facts that as American workers make more money, they pay more taxes, and they spend billions of more dollars on services and goods. That is truly economic growth. We need a balance approach. Yes, the well to do must pay their fair share in not only taxes but also closing corporate tax loopholes. Now that the American people know that they have the power, and government and corporations have no power, we will continue the governmental purification process until all appropriate members are removed from office, hopefully in larger numbers. The American voters can do this. YES WE CAN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 01/06/2009
- cayuse I'm a Fan of cayuse 15 fans permalink
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This is why it is so important to "fix our roads and bridges". It creates jobs, raises wages, increase demands for durable goods. All of this creates more jobs and sale of durables goods, the state administer and get needed funds. Keynesian Ecoomics begins to works.

Unfortunatley, holding hands with republicans and handing out cash is not going to fix a thing. Cash does not create 1 job, increase wages or sells on domestic good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 01/06/2009

I hope he gets aid to all 57 states.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 01/06/2009

Except Alaska,they have their own socialism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 AM on 01/07/2009

Yes..he gets on Tv with these Press conferences and absolutely says nothing..nothing except cliche statements..then he talks about Panetta's managerial skills.....well what about his intelligence background? Ahhh ...None...and aside from that he's another Clinton pick..Hey Obama..Where's the "Change"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 01/06/2009

Hannity followers should realize that we don't care about Clinton picks!!!!! The change we need is anything Bush! I only know that I had a great job during the Clinton Administration and made $10,000 more a year than I do now. I got laid off during the Bush administration and no one pays well for college grads, unless you are a CEO -- then you make millions for failure!

So sorry, we are more than thrilled with Obama's picks. News for Hannity -- the change we wanted is on its way with the change from Bushy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 01/06/2009

He speaks in complete sentences ,we under stand what he says.There are no cliches uttered.You just not accustomed to actual tntelligence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 01/07/2009
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

I'm so tired of mixed messages where Obama is concern. I have never seen this with other President with Bush for example they all go along but now everyone has an opinion. Oh there is too much tax cuts and not enough spending on job creationg. Oh there is too much spending and not enough tax cuts. The republicans are happy the economist on the left are unhappy republicans are unhappy. It just never ends and go around and around. If we had this kind of brainstorming and everyone not afraid to BUTT in with Bush when he was in office maybe wouldnt be in this mess that we are in. Its funny Bush who dont know squat and should be getting input from all over didnt get any and Obama who clearly has command of the issues is getting advice from anyone and their mother much of it conflicting. Geez is it so hard to trust the man's judgement.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 01/06/2009
- vjoseph I'm a Fan of vjoseph 66 fans permalink
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Yeah, I am getting disgusted by this kind of reactions from our supposed allies. I swear, I can't tell who is the whiniest, Dems or Rethugs!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 01/06/2009

Republicans

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 01/07/2009

I hate to say it, but that's the double standard white America practices. Now you get to see it for yourself and that why countries around the world hate us. No American president elect has ever had to deal with the things Obama has. They want Obama to respond and be responsible for everything before he's even sworn into to office. While our current president, Bush is doing absolutely nothing and he's never questioned about not doing anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 01/07/2009

Let's just put it like this. With the amount of money our government will be printing out on our dime, today's dollar will be worth about a 1/3 of it's value 10 years from now. So if your pulling in 100K a year it'll be like 33k in a decade. Try retiring on that and then ask yourself if your really want to keep printing a trillion dollars a month.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 01/06/2009

These republicans are sabotaging our economic recovery. Death to the saboteurs!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 01/06/2009

Ahh...it was the housing market, through Fannie and Freddie and the dems refusing to regulate them..that allowed this crazy bundling of mortgages...never should have been allowed..Bush and GOP tried to waqrn them..Not hard enough as far as I'm concerned..but you had dems like Barney Frank and Dood and Meeks and Waters pushing off any mention of regulation...You need to follow the details of politics to knpow this not just the headlines. The dems controlled the congress for the last 3 years and ignored the warning signs..even when they were warned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 01/06/2009
- KrystynM I'm a Fan of KrystynM 4 fans permalink
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wow, you are ever so enlightened. What are you doing here, why are you not trying to convince someone important that you have all the answers???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 01/06/2009

Sorry -- what is that the senate had power over that Bush couldn't have done? Wasn't he in charge of the SEC? Why did he say nothing to the American public about the senate not charging through needed legislation? What is that the democrats passed that the president couldn't have vetoed?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 01/06/2009
- SangZe I'm a Fan of SangZe 34 fans permalink

The republicans will show who's boss. Stimulus indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 01/06/2009
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Do you believe that the GOP will "disagree w/o being disagreeable"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 01/06/2009

He better battle the GOP on getting us the right stimulus. We've had years and years and years of the wrong kind. He has to put the middle class ahead of compromise when it comes to the economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 01/06/2009
- dandypuddin I'm a Fan of dandypuddin 177 fans permalink
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I assume when you say years and years of the wrong kind you are talking about Iraq?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 01/06/2009

Okay. Say that the government passed a resolution sending 1500 to every taxpayer in the country tomorrow. Would you spend it or would you keep it tucked away for a rainy day?

I thought so. And then we'd spend the next 50 years paying back your rainy day fund.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 01/06/2009
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

Which is exactly NOT what this package is about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 01/06/2009

Fortunately, Obama is about creating jobs so that won't happen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 01/06/2009
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What a joke! These guy's have raped us for the last 8 year's and they're worried about wasting money? That is true irony.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 01/06/2009
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that is DENIAL with a sprinkle of DENSE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 01/06/2009
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