Mumbai Gunmen Phone Transcript Shows Chain Of Command

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SAM DOLNICK | January 7, 2009 01:11 PM EST | AP

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In this Nov. 28, 2008 file photo, National Security Guard commandos come down a rope to reach the top of Nariman House, a location under siege by suspected militants in Mumbai, India. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2009, that he did not believe the November Mumbai attacks gunmen were acting alone, and Pakistani state agencies must have had a hand in the attacks. A ruthless exchange from a transcript of phone calls Indian authorities say they intercepted during the attack were part of a dossier of evidence New Delhi handed Pakistan this week that it says definitively proves that the siege was launched from across the border. (AP Photo/ File)

NEW DELHI — "Keep your phone switched on," a handler instructs a gunman by phone in the midst of the Mumbai siege, "so that we can hear the gunfire."

The ruthless commands come from a transcript of phone calls Indian authorities say they intercepted during the attacks in November. India says the men issuing orders, reprimands and encouragement to the young gunmen were Pakistani-based militants directing the attacks by mobile phone.

The men on the phone were confident, direct _ and brutal.

"We have three foreigners, including women," a gunman said into the phone from the Oberoi Hotel where hostages had been captured.

"Kill them," replied the handler. Gunshots then rang out, followed by cheering that could be heard over the phone.

"Inflict the maximum damage," they said.

The transcripts were part of a dossier of evidence India has given Pakistan this week that India says definitively proves that the siege that killed 164 people was launched from across the border. India says the 10 gunmen were all Pakistani and has blamed the Pakistani-based militant group, Lashkar-e-Taiba.

The Mumbai transcripts were translated from Punjabi into English by Indian authorities and obtained by the newspaper The Hindu. The newspaper gave the transcripts to The Associated Press on Wednesday.

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They show that the 10 gunmen, who allegedly were trained in Lashkar camps, received instructions throughout the siege.

"If you are still threatened, then don't saddle yourself with the burden of the hostages. Immediately kill them," a handler tells a team of gunmen who had seized a Mumbai Jewish center, according to the transcript.

Six Jewish foreigners, including a rabbi and his wife, were killed inside the building.

The handlers' tone is that of a firm teacher alternately dispensing encouragement, criticism, and guidance. Many exchanges, however, were just swift commands that showed the real decisions were being made far from the besieged Mumbai targets.

Roughly 24 hours after the attacks began, the handlers urged the gunmen to "be strong in the name of Allah."

"Brother, you have to fight. This is a matter of prestige of Islam," the handler said. "You may feel tired or sleepy, but the commandos of Islam have left everything behind _ their mothers, their fathers."

The gunmen were told several times not to kill any Muslim hostages.

The attackers used several mobile phones, including those belonging to the hostages. Shortly after the siege started, Indian authorities say they began intercepting calls from inside the hotel. They were also able to pick up calls carried over the Internet, which the handlers used to route some calls, according to the dossier.

The siege in India's financial capital lasted nearly three days, far longer than security experts said it should have, and, apparently, far longer than the terrorists expected as well. The handlers told the gunmen on Nov. 27 that "the operation has to be concluded tomorrow morning." But it was 36 more hours before it finished.

The attacks against iconic Mumbai targets were covered by news channels worldwide, allowing the handlers to use TV reports to guide the gunmen, the dossier says. The handlers warned when commandos roped down to the Jewish center from helicopters.

The dossier also included photographs of dozens of items recovered in the attacks, including GPS units, mobile phones, guns, and explosives, as well as data gleaned from satellite phones, and details from the interrogation of the lone surviving gunman.

But the strongest _ and most chilling _ evidence that the gunmen were not acting alone came from the phone transcripts.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said Tuesday that Pakistani authorities must have had a hand in the siege. Lashkar is widely believed to be a 1980s creation of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency to pressure India over the disputed area of Kashmir.

Pakistan denies the allegation.

Pakistan has arrested at least two senior Lashkar leaders, but it was not clear whether either of them were on the phone with the gunmen during the attack.

Pakistani authorities are reviewing the evidence provided by India, but have dismissed Singh's claims and accused India of unnecessarily whipping up tensions between the nuclear-armed rivals that share a border.

Pakistani Information Minister Sherry Rehman did say Wednesday that the lone surviving gunman was a Pakistani citizen, after weeks of refusing to confirm India's claims on his nationality. Islamabad had previously said it could not find the surviving gunman, Ajmal Kasab, in its databases.

Predominantly Hindu India and Muslim Pakistan have fought three wars against each other since they gained independence in 1947. But both sides have said they do not want to go to war over Mumbai.

"We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," Pakistan's ISI agency chief Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha told German news magazine Der Spiegel. "We know full well that terror is our enemy, not India."

NEW DELHI — "Keep your phone switched on," a handler instructs a gunman by phone in the midst of the Mumbai siege, "so that we can hear the gunfire." The ruthless commands come from a transcrip...
NEW DELHI — "Keep your phone switched on," a handler instructs a gunman by phone in the midst of the Mumbai siege, "so that we can hear the gunfire." The ruthless commands come from a transcrip...
 
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i will try again.

The transcripts should be authenticated by the National Security Agency, if they are anywhere near what their reputation says.

I am very much afraid that the new government of Pakistan will not have the power or the will to root out all the members of their military and intelligence services who have been supporting these terrorists, and the ones we call the Taliban.

And I greatly fear that what Israel is doing in Gaza is poisoning the well.

The United States has no National interest in Gaza. Our interests lay in Pakistan and the Afghan border. (and Iraq and Suadi arabia of course). With the people who killed so many of our citizens on 9/11.

And the SOB's who supported them before and after.

it is going to be a very difficult job juggling all he elements necessary to find and destroy Osama bin Ladin and his networks, while supporting the Pakistani government.

But I am afraid what Israel is doing will distract the USA from its real mission.

And destroy the good will President Obama SHOULD bring to the White House

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 01/08/2009

I would assume that the transcripts can be authenticated by the National Security Agency who were no doubt listening in.

I now doubt if the present government of Pakistan has the power to remove the radical elements funded by their military and intelligence agencies from power.

I had hoped that President Obama would bring with him the stiffening of the Pakistani Government through intelligent policies regarding the Muslim world.

But I fear the Israeli attacks on Gaza have poisoned the Well. And will handcuff Obama.

The United States has no national interest in Israel or Gaza.

Our interest lies in Pakistan and the Afghan border. With the criminals who killed so many of our citizens on 9/11.

That is where our influence and power must be felt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 01/08/2009

""We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," Pakistan's ISI agency chief Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha "

Well....that just fills me with comfort

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 01/08/2009

I was thinking the same thing... these people have nuclear weapons!

They make the Russians look composed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 AM on 01/09/2009

I told you!

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1870269,00.html?xid=feed-yahoo-world

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 01/08/2009

India showing evidence and Pakistan denying and not responding to take action against its own people looks more to be an academic exercise which in time will cool down the people's anger. India must strive hard to beef up its defense against similar actions in future before it occurs. Too much loss and too much agony.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 AM on 01/08/2009

The dirty secret of terrorism is that it is infotainment on a global scale. The perpetrators count on cameras and the internet rushing in to vacuum up the free but splashy content, which has become so pervasive and predictable that the situation room gets live feeds without having to pay for them!

The footage of the "rescue" drop onto the Jewish Center obviously COST LIVES! Lives of hostages, lives of brave men rapelling down those ropes.

For what? So a breathless world could be titillated?

Oh, the public has a right to know, the audience howls!

Sure we do, but I've noticed one bloody corpse looks much like another - one bombed out building or twisted auto much the same. They'll likely look largely identical in a day or two. We can wait.

Don't give the misbegotten, cretinous sons-of-spittle exactly what they want! Or they'll keep coming back for more....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 01/08/2009
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The US presence in Afghanistan is at the root of this problem. Attacking Afghanistan and invading it rather than focusing on bin Laden forced us into a relationship with Pakistan that will cause a lot more instability and suffering.... I am not surprised that Pakistan shares complicity in the Mumbai attacks. I am impressed at Indias restraint given the US kneejerk response to being attacked which has been a failing of the greatest magnitude.... India, by the US and Israeli model should attack and invade Pakistan, kill anyone who opposes them, hunt down an opposition, kill as many civilians as it takes to get the job done.... So if its taking the diplomatic high road then good on 'em. Pakistan is definitely a rats nest of competing extremist agendas surrounded by corruption, poverty and ignorance... we really kicked the beehive when we got into bed with them...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 01/08/2009
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Terror by telephone, the ugly side of technological advancement. No, it is not a binary world of good and evil there are nuances...the details of the whole. Technology is not all bad and it is not all good. Dial tone has become ubiquitous and that is a good thing. Ubiquitous means everywhere, thus technology has reached the evil-minded as well as the loving. It is always those who utilize technology who decide its" character and that is an assessment of the nuances of individuality which comes out of the constant binary imperatives of, to be or not to be, give me liberty or give me death, hate over love, harm over healing, and the ten thousand ways that choice (and technology) plays out on human life. Never pick up the phone for terror, for hate, for murder. May that call always be a call that is met with -- "You have the wrong number!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 01/07/2009

If something similar happens under obama we wouldn't have any of that intel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 01/07/2009

Yes we would. NSA has full rights as these guys weren't in the US jurisdiction or were US nationals. Besides Obama reversed his position of FISA right after the primary so you dont have to worry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 01/07/2009

Sorry to contradict you, but most of the intelligence that India has obtained on the Pakistani terrorist attack came from the surviving terrorist. Under obama, he would not be required to provide any information. He would have a lawyer present at all times and couldn't be forced to incriminate himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 01/07/2009

Obama was not against the FISA, his position was/is to get the court order and then do it....keep it legal, so that a terrorist case doesn't get thrown out of court....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 01/07/2009

Why? Because Obama won't torture innocent prisoners until they say whatever their torturers want them to say? It's signals intel that wouldn't require a warrant to get. Not that Bushco cares about warrants. Or laws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 01/07/2009
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i hate when fo.ols that know absolutely ZERO about intelligence matters chime in with something ignorant concerning President-elect Obama's term as President... the intelligence agencies aren't going to change much under Obama... save stop trampling over the Constitution because a corrupt Bush Administration wishes the agencies to construct intelligence based on their archaic ideologies....

please educate yourself before you open that stinking cesspool in your face which you like to think of as a mouth. have a nice day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 01/08/2009

P.akjabi's cannot line up like men and fight a war because they've tried 4 times and failed miserably. Now they have to butcher unarmed men children and women in the name of their alien desert faith. Wahabb1 Ar.ab wannabe cowards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 01/07/2009

replying to you is so useless that I will not even try.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 01/07/2009

But you did, so you failed nonetheless preening lil tart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 01/07/2009
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Go read.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 01/07/2009

Pa.k.tan just fired their National Security Advisor because he admitted that the pk.jabi in 1ndian custody was in fact their national. Just imagine the level of denial these people are willing to indulge themselves to give cover to the Pakistan Army's cowardly and murderous proxy campaign against India.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 01/07/2009

The sad truth is that there is a dichotomy of control in Pakistan. We could probably deal with the secular Muslims, but the Islamic fanatics are only interested in killing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 01/07/2009
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despicable

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 01/07/2009

Boils my blood.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 01/07/2009

How N0T surprs!ng. the l !berals are not here with their 0utrage at P orkistan!

T ypical c 0wards!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 01/07/2009

I am outraged. Both by Pakistan and by you. I am amazed at the restraint and wisdom India is showing. Pakistan's every action responsive to this release of these horrible transcripts is front and center on the world stage. They had better respond correctly.

SIII however is simply an idjit trying to call names and start a nuclear fight. Too bad he was not born in Nagasaki.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 01/07/2009
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You sound like a Talibangecal yourself....

Never a negative sentence without a Right Wing boogieman word in it:

'Liberal'
'Coward'

If you are so brave why don't you go over to Pakistan with some of your beer-drinking buddies in you pick up trucks and straighten them out. !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 01/07/2009

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1870269,00.html?xid=feed-yahoo-world

Look what y'all (l!berals) have done!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 01/08/2009

I am a liberal and I have posted many posts critical of Pakistan's behavior on this thread and other Mumbai attack related threats; one's position is not always based their political leaning...

I suggest we all respect each other and our opinions as Americans, and NOT as, left, right, east, west. north, south....There is ENOUGH HATE ALREADY in this world......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 01/07/2009

Great post. Could you put in a good word for President Bush?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 01/07/2009

test

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 01/07/2009

I agree, you need a few tests...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 01/07/2009
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LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 01/07/2009

The Rabbi and his wife, an American citizen who was 6 months pregnant, were tortured beyond recognition in front of their 2 year old son. This is not speculation- I spoke with a cousin of the Rabbi in Israel. But this is yesterdays' news and we are becoming immune to these horrors. That is scary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 01/07/2009

Finally Pakistan seems to have come to its senses, and it will be wise for its govt. to cooperate with other countries whose citizens were murd red by these cowering cowards, and either prosecute them in Pakistan or extradite them to India and other countries where they are wanted.

There will be justice, in one way or another, but, if Palistan really wants live upto its claim that it is a 'democracy', then it needs to ACT like one and DO the right thing...this a good time to START...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 01/07/2009

the torture story was denied by the police and retracted by media and has no truth whatsoever. Please do not spread rumors, thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 01/07/2009
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