Russia-Ukraine Gas Deal Fails Leaving Parts Of Europe Cold And Dark

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MARIA DANILOVA | January 9, 2009 03:51 PM EST | AP

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A visitor warms her hands near a wood-burning stove in a monastery near the Bulgarian capital Sofia, Friday, Jan. 9, 2009. Natural gas supplies from Russia through Ukraine to Bulgaria and other parts of Europe remain cut off for a second day, leaving several countries scrambling to secure alternative energy sources to cope with the winter cold snap, and people hard pressed to keep warm. (AP Photo/Petar Petrov)

KIEV, Ukraine — Russian and Ukrainian officials bickered into the night Friday over a deal leading to the resumption of Russian gas supplies, squelching hopes for an end to a dispute leaving parts of Europe in the cold and dark.

European Union representatives started work in Ukraine's capital, Kiev, to monitor the flow of gas, offering an independent assessment that was critical to sealing a bargain. But Russia said it would only restart pumping gas to Europe via Ukraine after a written deal is signed.

Russia wants monitors in place to prevent what it described as Ukraine's theft of supplies meant for Europe _ a charge Kiev hotly denies.

"Our goal is to show who is to blame for stealing gas," Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said. "Such thievery can't be left unaccountable."

Ukraine's President Viktor Yushchenko rejected the notion.

"Ukraine is not stealing gas," he told reporters angrily.

Gazprom halted all natural gas shipments through Ukraine on Wednesday, ending or reducing gas supplies to more than a dozen European nations amid a pricing dispute with Kiev.

Russia in the past has sold gas to Ukraine and some other ex-Soviet neighbors at prices significantly less than European prices.

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Medvedev said Friday that Ukraine should pay a European price for the Russian gas. Last year, Russia charged Ukraine $179.50 per 1,000 cubic meters, about half what it charged its European customers.

Russia's last offer before talks broke down was $250, but Gazprom said the offer no longer stands after Ukraine rejected it and that it will charge Ukraine $450.

EU governments have criticized both Russia and Ukraine for the gas crisis, saying it was unacceptable to see homes unheated, businesses closed and schools shut down in the middle of winter because of the commercial squabble.

Russia, Ukraine and the EU all said the final agreement could be finalized soon, but officials remained coy about what prevented the deal from being completed Friday as hoped.

Ukraine's Natftogaz state gas company spokesman Valentyn Zemlyansky said it was resisting what he described as the Russian push for control over Ukraine's gas transportation network.

Gazprom's CEO Alexei Miller pledged Gazprom would resume shipments to Europe once the monitoring teams deploy to pipeline pumping stations across Ukraine _ a country roughly the size of South Africa or Texas.

But Medvedev emphasized that Russia will resume deliveries to Europe only after a written agreement is in place. "Regrettably, we don't have any faith left in Ukraine's good intentions," he said.

Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek, whose country holds the EU presidency, visited Kiev on Friday to help wrap up the monitoring deal.

"We want to help overcome the crisis of confidence," Topolanek said after talks with Ukraine's president. "Russia wants to ship gas, Ukraine wants to transit it. This problem must be solved."

Yushchenko insisted that his nation "religiously fulfills its transit mission." "But there is one problem: this gas must be supplied from Russia," he said.

Ukraine had initially opposed including Russians in the EU monitoring team, but finally accepted their presence on Friday, Miller said. Ukrainian and the EU officials confirmed that Russians officials were welcome to join the mission.

"It is now imperative that the gas starts to flow," the EU said in a statement.

Once gas shipments resume, it "will take at least three days" for the first gas to reach European consumers, EU spokesman Ferran Terradellas said.

The halt in gas supplies has left European nations struggling to cope during a harsh winter. At least 11 people have frozen to death this week in Europe, including 10 in Poland, where temperatures have sunk to minus 13 F (minus 25 C).

Fifteen countries _ Austria, Bulgaria, Bosnia, Croatia, the Czech Republic, France, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Macedonia, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia and Turkey _ said their Russian supplies ceased Wednesday. Germany and Poland also reported substantial drops in supplies.

Ukraine's Naftogaz promised the first gas supplies would go to Bulgaria, where thousands of homes are without heating and factories have been shut.

The Sofia Zoo in the Bulgarian capital declared an emergency Friday after being left with no central heating. The zoo was using electric heaters for its 1,300 animals, some of which needed temperatures of at least 68 F (20 C), director Ivan Ivanov said.

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Associated Press Writer Vladimir Isachenkov in Moscow contributed to this story.

KIEV, Ukraine — Russian and Ukrainian officials bickered into the night Friday over a deal leading to the resumption of Russian gas supplies, squelching hopes for an end to a dispute leaving par...
KIEV, Ukraine — Russian and Ukrainian officials bickered into the night Friday over a deal leading to the resumption of Russian gas supplies, squelching hopes for an end to a dispute leaving par...
 
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- newshawk14 I'm a Fan of newshawk14 8 fans permalink

I think Putin and Russia are going to find out the hard way, what happens to unreliable suppliers.
When that happens, they can whine and complain all they want about the unfairness of it all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 01/10/2009

With a concerted effort by the fairly-well established green movement among the EU and the former Soviet satellites, they should be able to declare and demand energy independence NOW rather than later. Then they would be able to break the back of the oil blackmailer and drag the rest of the industrialized world into THE necessity of the 21st century -- alternative energy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 01/10/2009
- Blutus I'm a Fan of Blutus 11 fans permalink

The only power Russia has left.

Hopefully Putin and the Gang saw the launching of our new carrier.

Puppies indeed. Go play with Hugo's boats again. He's heading for the ash-heap too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 01/10/2009

The only answer to the "oil issue" is to find an alternative source of energy and become independent of
Russian regime. Russia has never done anything without a hidden reward. Whom are we kidding to?

They don't help others unless there is something there, they need (example: Cuba).

Russia is trying to boss Ukraine, like they do to others...

And what is that talk about "the Bush puppies in eastern europe keep barking at russia even if russia feeds them."? Russia has still a hard time to feed itself and for sure does not feed anybody else.
Never has been. Russia becomes a dangerous country now which is very, very sad. Russian people need to get rid of their evil government. And do not worry about the missiles. They are not created to attack but to protect. The surrounding countries have a bad experience with their big neighbour. Russian politics brought nothing but destruction and limitations.
Yes, the only answer is an alternative energy, and then - Good by Russia! You're on your own!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 01/10/2009
- Gripen I'm a Fan of Gripen 14 fans permalink
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Are you a parrot for FAUX NOISE, russia had good relationship with western world until Bush started put missiles at russias border, NATO provacations.

Corrupt leaders of easter europe piss on russia and try pick fights and are you as american prepered to protect them, the stupidity of the cold war relic fans seem to have no end.

Ukraine has put it self in this situation, they arent in EU and i hope they never be either, at least until their president is replaced with one that is sane, heck even ukrainians think he is insane for his popularity rate is even lower thne for Bush

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 01/10/2009

Yes because we all know defensive missiles are a huge threat to russia. Wait a minute...didnt Russia control all the Eastern countries for many years??? With ittle to no freedom?? I wonder why these nations loathe them so much. If you are a fan of Russia why dont you go try living there. While you are at it get a big sign proclaiming how bad putin is and see what a great country it is.

Heres to thumbing my nose at Russia which I can do safely here...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 AM on 01/11/2009
- pokemon I'm a Fan of pokemon 16 fans permalink
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One of the areas I study in grad school. GAO (Government accountability office) did a study and stated that we WILL reach peak oil sometime between now and 2040. Everything the experts predicted would happen in this period is happening. Peak Oil is not gloom and doom, it is a restructuring of the system.

It is the restructuring that will cause a problem, because OLD money will want us to stay as long as possible in the old system because they have very little if any grasp on the new systems in place. As an example my heating with wood means 600 dollars less a month to the gas company (big house). So they will play the statistics and keep a majority of the public using the old system as long as possible.

Your best bet is to begin now, change your lifestyle. Smaller houses (mines big but 110 years old), smaller city living (I drive 2-3 minutes to work / store), get a bike with a trailer for shopping, grow your own veggies or go Locovoure. Simple change in lifestyle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 01/10/2009

Here's a nickel. Go out and buy yourself a clue. Have you looked into any of the government studies from 30 years ago that predicted we would be long out of oil by now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 01/10/2009
- pokemon I'm a Fan of pokemon 16 fans permalink
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Peak Oil includes gas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 01/10/2009

This is a good lesson for us Americans. Nations need to be energy and food independent. Depending on Russia for energy is a big mistake for Europe. Ukraine may be corrupt and Eastern Europe may be Bush's constituency but Russia has a contract and it has a commodity. Good business practice does not include holding your clients hostage when they most need your product. Gasprom is hurting Europeans now but hurting their own brand value in the long term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 01/10/2009
- pokemon I'm a Fan of pokemon 16 fans permalink
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No hurting here on brand. Gas like oil is something people have to learn to live without before they can tell you they will not buy your product.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 01/10/2009
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 378 fans permalink
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When the bickering started a week or so ago - I read that the EU had reserves to last through April - what happened?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 01/10/2009
- x004Ronin I'm a Fan of x004Ronin 35 fans permalink

The EU as a whole has good reserves, but specifically Eastern European countries didn't stockpile as much as Western European countries (they have less money). Also, when they say they have "enough reserves for a few months," they mean, "We have enough reserves for a few months assuming we intermittently cut off the gas to consumers every now and then to limit consumption."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 01/10/2009
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 92 fans permalink
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Russia has become an evil Giant again, who day of reckoning is going to come.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 01/10/2009
- Gripen I'm a Fan of Gripen 14 fans permalink
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What seem to miss most american, is that russia is a capitalistic state now days and can decide who to sell to or not. Why should they sell to countries that treat to join NATO and place missiles at there border for a lower price then they demand.

Russia has been provokt a long time by the Bush regim and the Bush puppies in eastern europe keep barking at russia even if russia feeds them.

when the baltic states plus georgia countinous provoke russia so it looks as they want a war and USA and NATOs blind support to them, Ukraines wish to join NATO is the big issue here, but it is only Ukraines president that wants ato it isnt a support of the ppl.

So tell me why russia shall sell gas for a lwoer price then they want to countries that is hostiel towards them. I know i wouldnt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 01/10/2009
- dgr I'm a Fan of dgr permalink

The Ukraine has been getting a sweet deal for years. They receive gas at a special price $179 and turn around and sell it to their own people for 320. Corruption is so rampant in the Ukraine that they cannot be trusted. Their presidennt enjoys a %4 approval rating. He makes Bush look like a popular figure.

Russia has always been a reliable partner and has only had problems with gas transit....almost every year.....with the current corrupt administration in power in the Ukraine. The Ukraine managed to send 2 billin worth of war supplies to encourage Georgia to start a war with Russia, but could not come up with money for gas for its own people.
It is obvious that their policies are controlled by the oil interests in Washington who will use every means at their disposal:, war, propaganda, and the buying of political influence with Russia's neighbors ....in order to weaken Russia's hold on natural resources.

Russia understands now that America is an enemy and is acting in its own national interests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 AM on 01/10/2009
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It seems after years of blackmail from the US with food as ransom, Russia has learned to play poker too.

Stop bashing and help her to do the right thing, by leading by example.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 01/10/2009

Lead by example? And how would we do that? Do you think they would even listen? Russia cares only about returning to its former ways.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 01/10/2009

Russia has never been a friend of USA and Russia had always been acting in its own national interests.
Too bad their fight was destructive to others (example: absolute destruction of Easter European countries and Cuba). Wonder why others fight back?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 01/10/2009
- dgr I'm a Fan of dgr permalink

If the best the West has to offer the World is "war" over natural resources, then we are doomed. I am hoping that Obama has more vision than Bush's "oil" presidency had.

America needs energy independence. Fighting oil wars in the Middle East and the Balkans will only bankrupt us to the advantage of the international oil companies and the oligarchs behind those monopolies.

You are wrong about Russia never being a friend to America. They helped us during the Civil War and were our allies in WW2. A real partnership with Russia that takes into account Russia's interests could bring a lasting peace to the world. But then again we would actually have to be interesed in peace...peace is something that our current leadership sees as counterproductive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 01/10/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 87 fans permalink

Germany is not on that list because they have reduced their imports so much!!! I am sure that the other countries will come begging for the same technology... Too bad we are not ready to help out...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 01/10/2009

Russia continues to prove that it cannot be trusted to supply Europe with important commodities. All other sources must be studied.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 01/09/2009
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What better ad for Wind and solar to the Eastern Euro block.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 01/10/2009
- kstuff I'm a Fan of kstuff 5 fans permalink

Absolutely inhumane. What an outrage!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 01/09/2009
- Clayton139 I'm a Fan of Clayton139 25 fans permalink
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Well said !
How we had helped them since, their Nuclear meldown, and all their other problems and they do this ?
Don't they READ there own History ? Are they not Civilized ?
WHY is Vladamir Putin doing this ?
We helped them in order for them to be civiled like the USA and other parts of the Euopean Community ! And, I know we would always help them again !!!
Worked this out NOW...??!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 01/09/2009
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Calyton139, Civilized?

Oh brother are you in the dark. We taught them the blackmail they are using with the wheat prices, remember. We starved them during the cold war.

So there is much to be done. Criticism isn't one of them, compromise and respect is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 01/10/2009
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bush looked into putin's eyes and "saw his soul"!
8 years later they are "soulmates indeed!
people in l glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 01/11/2009
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