Cardinal's Likening Of Gaza To Concentration Camp Angers Israel

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JASON KEYSER | 01/10/09 06:00 PM | AP

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JERUSALEM — Israel said Saturday it was shocked and distressed by a senior Vatican cardinal's likening of Gaza under Israel's military offensive to a concentration camp.

A spokesman for Israel's Foreign Ministry said the cardinal, whose remarks appeared in an interview Wednesday, adopted the kind of language that Hamas and other Islamic militant groups have used to demonize Israel and equate it with Nazi Germany.

"It was shocking to hear the same kind of terminology from such a high-ranking member of the church," Israeli spokesman Yigal Palmor said Saturday.

Cardinal Renato Martino, a former Vatican envoy to the United Nations and now Pope Benedict XVI's top official on issues of peace and justice, said in the interview that Gaza now resembles a "big concentration camp."

Commenting on Israel's two-week military offensive against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, Martino told the online newspaper Il Sussidiario.net that both sides were concerned only with their own interests.

"But the consequences of this selfishness is hatred, poverty, injustice. It is always the defenseless populations that pay," he was quoted as saying. "Look at the conditions in Gaza: It looks more and more like a big concentration camp."

Vatican spokesmen have declined to comment on the remarks, saying instead that it was more important to note an appeal by the pope on Thursday for a cease-fire.

Martino, an influential prelate who heads the Vatican's Council for Justice and Peace, seemed to want to balance his remarks in another interview published Thursday in Rome daily La Repubblica in which he condemned the Hamas rocket attacks that prompted the Israeli offensive.

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But he did not back away from his earlier comparison and said, "Look at the conditions the people are living in."

A man who answered the phone at the cardinal's residence on Friday and identified himself as his private secretary said the prelate would not comment further on the Gaza remark.

"Using this excessive language is not doing justice and is not bringing peace any nearer and he should know better," Palmor said. "This kind of speech is deeply distressing."

Palmor said, however, that the cardinal's remarks would not harm relations with the Vatican or disrupt plans for a visit sometime this year by Benedict.

"These declarations by Cardinal Martino have nothing to do with our overall relations with the Holy See. The pope is still very welcome in Israel," Palmor said.

The Vatican and Israel have had a delicate relationship since establishing diplomatic ties in 1993.

Most recently, they have clashed over the legacy of Pope Pius XII, who some historians say did not do everything in his power to prevent Jews from being deported to concentration camps during World War II.

That dispute centers on a caption of a photo of Pius at the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem that says Pius did not protest the Nazi genocide of Jews and maintained a largely "neutral position."

The Vatican says Pius made every effort to help Jews and other victims through quiet diplomacy and wants Yad Vashem to change the caption.

There are also unresolved differences over the status of expropriated church property in Israel and tax exemptions for the church. The Vatican has also protested Israeli restrictions on the movement of Arab Christian clergy to and around the West Bank.

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Associated Press Writer Frances D'Emilio in Rome contributed to this report.

JERUSALEM — Israel said Saturday it was shocked and distressed by a senior Vatican cardinal's likening of Gaza under Israel's military offensive to a concentration camp. A spokesman for Israel'...
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The oppressed have become the oppressors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 01/11/2009

You said it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 01/12/2009
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The cardinal is simply stating the obvious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 01/11/2009
- Savanna I'm a Fan of Savanna 31 fans permalink

If the shoe fits wear it..or better, read it and weep for all the innocents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 01/11/2009

Cardinal Martino is stating a fact, one that is so obvious to anyone who removes the blinders of ideology.
The Israeli government is more concerned with preserving Zionist Ideals than it is with life or peace.
While it continues to murder innocent babies in Gaza, it also sacrifices its own children to its armies. The
God of Israel is the God of Palestine and the God of Rome......­.and this God is much displeased!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 01/11/2009
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The Cardinal and the Catholic church need to "put their money where their mouth is". Martino is taking a political pot shot and given his position in the hierarchy of Catholicism should be ready to offer solutions, not pour more 'gas on the fire'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 01/11/2009
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"The settlement of the Land of Israel is the essence of Zionism. Without settlement, we will not fulfill Zionism. It's that simple."
-- Yitzhak Shamir, Maariv, 02/21/1997.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 01/11/2009
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poor Israel they are just finding out that in the age of the internet you cannot control the message. people will know the truth no matter how organized your propaganda machine is. stop the madness NOW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 01/11/2009

Bottom line the situation has to end. Where is America in the situation? We need to see some peace in this region.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 01/11/2009
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America supports Israel with 3 billion dollars a year in military aid--

If you disapprove write to your legislators and the Obama transition team.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 01/11/2009

they yelp when you hit the nerve.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 01/11/2009
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"This kind of speech is deeply distressin­g."

Not as "distressing" as the reality which it is describing. Perhaps a more accurate comparison would be the Warsaw Ghetto rather than the concentration camps, because the Israelis have not constructed special prison camps to contain the Palestinians, but converted their entire community into a beseiged hell-hole, intended to intensify the suffering and increase the casualties. By creating a ghetto rather than a prison camp, the Israelis feel able to absolve themselves from the greatest part of the death and destruction by pretending that Gaza was given its independence and that it CHOSE to create the present conditions. It also allows the IDF to pretend that the Palestinians are not defenseless captives as they murder them in their homes, schools and mosques.

Very unfortunate, but it's difficult to see any fate for Gaza other than the Israelis' plan to bomb, burn, and bulldoze. Once the Palestinians have been exterminated, the Gaza Strip will become a luxury resort for the uber-wealthy, the Israeli Riviera. Can't let ordinary people get in the way of big fat profits!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 AM on 01/11/2009
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Almost as effective a statement as say, the manner in which certain priests indiscretions are dealt with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 01/11/2009
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I never thought I'd see the day I agree with the vatican on anything!

That day has arrived; Gaza is a concentration camp

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 AM on 01/11/2009
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The Cardinal is simply telling the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 01/11/2009
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Exactly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 01/11/2009
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Someone stole my 'walks like a duck' comment.
Ratrun, fishtank, what the good cardinal said. He was only voicing what many think.
The trouble with descriptions like this, by trusted people in a high enough position to get their remarks reported, is that it knocks hell out of the massive Israeli propaganda push. It shows the Mark Regevs and all the other Israeli spokespeople for what they are really up to - denying enough and accusing enough times, they hope, that they can shout over the minimal amount of statements coming from the other side. Even Carl Rove would be raging at this awful treatment by the Church and the MSN.
In the last few hours, a spokeswoman on Al Jazeera has been saying they watched Hamas dig their hundreds of tunnels and stock hundreds of warehouses with arms and rockets. It doesn't take a genius to work out that if these tunnels and warehouses actually existed, and the Israelis really did know where they were, they wouldn't need to be involved in this massive onslaught against Gaza.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 01/11/2009
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It's about time the Church spoke up. Many Palestinians are Christians, they should be defending them, not apologizing for mythical slights by a dead Pope. Our news media carefully protect the Americans from knowing that many Palestinians are Christian. Maybe this will surface that fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 01/11/2009
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Gaza isn't like a concentration camp, it's like a ghetto, it is a ghetto...!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 01/11/2009
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so, you on the north or the south side...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 01/11/2009
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You have a point. However, as my late mentor often said, just because lives are bing lost by the car load instead of the box-car load, and a population is starving slowing instead of gasping quickly, it does not mean that the similarities aren't being noticed by people of conscience and that the end results aren't the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 01/11/2009
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He didn't say Gaza was a "death camp".

He said it was a "concentration camp".


And.....It­. Is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 01/11/2009
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Truth hurts!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 01/11/2009
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