Dems Want Auto-Like String Tied To TARP Funds

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January 10, 2009 10:36 AM

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What's good for General Motors is good for Wall Street.

That's the argument being made by House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who is using Republicans' own arguments from the auto-bailout debate to push for tighter oversight of the second $350 billion of TARP funds intended for the financial sector.

Frank's bill, which he plans to hold a hearing for on Tuesday, rips more than a few pages out of the GOP's automaker bailout plan.

Big Three CEOs need to give up their private planes? Then so do bankers.

Automakers are required to make quarterly reports to Congress regarding use of the money? Then so is Wall Street.

Detroit needs to meet benchmarks agreed to by Washington? Then so do the bankers.

The car companies can't use the money for a merger? Well then neither can the banks.

An outline of Frank's bill explicitly refers to the auto bailout bill when it references executive pay, saying that Frank's version "applies the executive compensation requirements included in auto bill to any new receipt of TARP funds." The compensation limits on auto executives had real teeth; the original TARP rules did not.

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"The standards we used for the automobile people were tougher than the original" TARP standards, said Frank. "They'll be applied."

The bill also "clarifies" that auto companies are eligible to receive a portion of the TARP funds.

That the GOP push for tighter regulation of Detroit than it wanted for Wall Street reflects the longstanding political alliances of the two industries -- and particularly the influence of the Democratic-allied United Auto Workers. (It also reflects the national spasm of outrage that centered on the auto-executives' ill-fated decision to fly in private jets to Washington looking for a bailout.)

The rest of Frank's bill pushes priorities that Democrats couldn't get included last time. Frank wants at least $40 billion of the TARP cash to be spent on foreclosure relief - and up to $100 billion unless the banks can show why that much wasn't needed.

"It was inexplicable to me not spending any of the money of foreclosure," said Frank. Without a specific directive in the original bill, Congress couldn't force the administration's hand with the first half.

"The problem that we have is that in the legislative branch it's easier to prevent people from doing bad things than make them do good things," he offered.

If Bush does ask for the second half of the TARP funds before leaving office, Frank noted, the president won't have time to use the money. "The Bush Administration can ask for the second 350," he said. "At this point the Bush Administration could not spend it because it wouldn't ripen for fifteen days."

Congress has that much time to deliberate over a presidential request, which Bush has yet to make formally. Obama will be president within that amount of time.

Such a request from Bush, then, would set up an unusual clash, with President Bush and President-elect Obama in coordination on one side and congressional Democrats on the other.

The very fact that there could be an executive-legislative tug-of-war differs markedly from the early years of the Bush Administration and is evidence, said Frank, that Congress was correct to divvy the money out in separate tranches.

"A number of people said that was window dressing and obviously they were wrong. The idea we had of letting them do half and then waiting has worked out. And we intend to say that if they are going to spend the second 350 - and I think they should; I think there's a need for it in the economy - it will be done in a reasonable way," said Frank.

What's good for General Motors is good for Wall Street. That's the argument being made by House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who is using Republicans' own arguments from the au...
What's good for General Motors is good for Wall Street. That's the argument being made by House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who is using Republicans' own arguments from the au...
 
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Felix Salmon at Portfolio did perhaps the best job explaining the misinformation at play:
The average GM assembly-line worker makes about $28 per hour in wages, and I can assure you that GM is not paying $42 an hour in health insurance and pension plan contributions. Rather, the $70 per hour figure (or $73 an hour, or whatever) is a ridiculous number obtained by adding up GM's total labor, health, and pension costs, and then dividing by the total number of hours worked. In other words, it includes all the healthcare and retirement costs of retired workers. [emphasis in original]

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 01/12/2009
- DaCoach I'm a Fan of DaCoach 6 fans permalink

Someone tell me when Barney apologizes for his part in the misspent $350B. Democratic leadership in Congress drafted the bill and they're largely to blame for its failure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 01/11/2009
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You GO Barney! Thank goodness there's someone in Congress with a sense of irony that tells it straight up without spin. Keep after the as____es. Don't let them rob up blind and get away with murder just because we're frightened by the situation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 01/11/2009
- AN2009 I'm a Fan of AN2009 4 fans permalink

There should be tighter oversight of all the recipients of TARP funds -- Detroit car manufacturers, Wall Street banks, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 01/11/2009
- AN2009 I'm a Fan of AN2009 4 fans permalink

There should be tighter oversight of all the receipts of TARP funds -- Detroit car manufacturers, Wall Street banks, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 01/11/2009
- GerryS I'm a Fan of GerryS 40 fans permalink
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GOOD, after listening to the market and economic "experts" all condemming this on tv and radio at the end of the week, you have to know this is the right decision.

enough is enough----­----------­-------

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 01/11/2009
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 32 fans permalink
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Franks is taking advantage of the ignorant masses that don't know what the TARP is all about. Franks is telling the ignorant that the TARP money is about bailing out business that are in trouble. Thats not what the TARP is for. Its about bailing out an entire industry. The financial industry. The American financial Industry. The US cannot rely on foreign financial markets. We are a debtor nation and we need large banks to prop up our currency. Any other industry is disposable. We can import anything we need ( cars , tanks, wheat. oil ) but we need credit first. Without US credit companies, the dollar could collapse and then oil will go up to $250/ a barrel and the politicians in Washington couldn't spend any more money for pet projects because the printing presses would have to be shut down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 01/11/2009
- StellaRay I'm a Fan of StellaRay 212 fans permalink

Peter, what credit? We gave the financial industry 350 billion, and still, credit is largely frozen. If you educate yourself you'll find they've spent most of the money buying up other banks. This is why the US auto companies are going down. Fact is, GM et al have run on a poor business model for a long time, it's the credit freeze that's sending them over the cliff.

I'm not defending Detroit, but for the love of common sense, what makes you think the recent no strings attached bailout to the financial industry has helped? Franks is not taking advantage of the "ignorant masses" (yourself excluded of course)---he is stating what I and many others believe.

What's good for the auto industry is good for the financial industry. No one is entitled to that much of a hand out without transparency and accountability.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 01/11/2009
- Kassandra I'm a Fan of Kassandra 96 fans permalink
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Well, let's see if the bailed out follow the new rules any more than they followed the rules for the first king's ransom we gave them?
After Bush's imperial presidency, Congress just doesn't have much power anymore to enforce anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 01/11/2009
- lbrillante I'm a Fan of lbrillante 7 fans permalink

Jeeezzz.!!­!! How ignorant is congress????

Can we stop the bleeding yet? Or do we really have to throw the wounded, bleeding body of america onto the machetti some more??? Bush doesn't even have to try... he gets the help of congress to abuse us over and over and over and over.

We are a nation with 'battered wife syndrome'.­... This country is so abused by it's leaders I think Saturday Night Live should do a Washington skit ''F America;' because that's what we've had for 8 years....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 01/11/2009
- bbbear I'm a Fan of bbbear 23 fans permalink
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It's damned well about time! Still, the dems are so used to posturing and then doing ditilly squat that I'll believe it when I see it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 01/11/2009
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 32 fans permalink
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Franks is show boating. Anytime there is a bundle of cash on the counter, Congressman scream that the money is needed in their district because its a national emergency.
Franks is a bitter person. His proposals would do nothing to help financial markets.
The money in the TARP was needed to restore liquidity to the financial markets. It wasn't to be used to help any one company unless that companies existence was vital to the free flow of capital. ( see Lehman Bros. ) It was a crisis in the markets. Not that the markets weren't working, it was that the markets weren't working for Americans that needed credit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 01/11/2009
- nick1936 I'm a Fan of nick1936 17 fans permalink

Hey Peter Franks is right the Banks got 350billion already and nothing has changed. If you are unable to see that this is Bush's last attempt to take care of his friends with our money you are blind

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 01/11/2009
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 32 fans permalink
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Everything has changed. The stock market is up 15% from the lows. There hasn't been any bank failures during the past 3 months. Loan activity is up. And only 1/2 of the money has made its way into the system. Give it another 3 months and business activity will be higher still.
The 1 trillion was not intended to fix housing or the economy, it was to restore liquidity. Once liquidity is restored the other things should begin to fall into place. It will take about a year. Not 90 days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 01/11/2009
- rabrophy I'm a Fan of rabrophy 13 fans permalink

Pl-essse!
Barney & Friends have made noises before. Remember the Bla-Bla about "accountability" and "Oversight" before they gave Paulson a blank check the last time? The Democtatic Leadership are whipped curs who will bend over forward every time the rich growl at them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 01/11/2009
- richsmith I'm a Fan of richsmith 8 fans permalink

Don't rag on B. Frank.

This is the Bush Depression. Dam*, Frank is morphing into a Truman. He'll soon be auditing the books of all the klepto-capitalists on an institutional and personal basis, all of them.

Go Barney!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 01/11/2009
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Barney's got more cajones than the rest of the Dems combined. He is a true representative of the people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 01/11/2009
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Let me revise and extend: I know there are just two, but they must be awesome. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 01/11/2009
- rf-hawaii I'm a Fan of rf-hawaii 20 fans permalink

Can we put Paulson in jail while we're at it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 01/11/2009
- Lemmy I'm a Fan of Lemmy 19 fans permalink

Frank got us into this financial crisis and he's got the stones to still keep running his cake-hole. This guy lacks all shame, that we know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 01/11/2009
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You must be really pissed at Republi-cons!

With control of congress for 12 years and a Republi-con president for six years, they must have been very ineffectual legislators, to let one man do that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 01/11/2009
- Lemmy I'm a Fan of Lemmy 19 fans permalink

Put hand on back of head
Pull from sand
Repeat as neccessary

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 01/11/2009
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Republi-con president for 8 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 01/11/2009
- Lemmy I'm a Fan of Lemmy 19 fans permalink

"There is no crisis!!" Use your own Sylvester The Cat impersonation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 01/11/2009
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