Obama 'Get Afghanistan Right' Campaign Ramps Up

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January 12, 2009 12:43 PM

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While President-elect Barack Obama made constant pledges to extricate the United States from Iraq during the 2008 campaign, he took a different position on Afghanistan, which he elucidated to Time Magazine during the campaign:

I will send at least two additional combat brigades to Afghanistan and use this commitment to seek greater contributions--with fewer restrictions--from NATO allies. I will focus on training Afghan security forces and supporting an Afghan judiciary. I will once and for all dismantle al-Qaeda and the Taliban. The solution in Afghanistan is not just military--it is political and economic. That is why I would also increase our nonmilitary aid by $1 billion. These resources should fund projects at the local level to impact ordinary Afghans, including the development of alternative livelihoods for poppy farmers. And we must demand better performance from the Afghan government through tough anti-corruption safeguards on aid.


Finally, we need a stronger and sustained partnership between Afghanistan, Pakistan and NATO to secure the border, to take out terrorist camps and to crack down on cross-border insurgents. We should condition some assistance to Pakistan on their action to take the fight to the terrorists within their borders. And if we have actionable intelligence about high-level al-Qaeda targets, we must act if Pakistan will not or cannot.

Now, Obama will face pressure from an organization ramping up to oppose any military escalation in that region. GetAfghanistanRight.com is a coterie of "writers, bloggers, and activists," who have joined forced to urge Obama to use diplomatic means to solve the problems in Afghanistan and neighboring Pakistan, and will use this week to articulate their agenda:

A group of bloggers, writers and activists today launched "Get Afghanistan Right Week," the start of an ongoing campaign to oppose military escalation in Afghanistan. From January 12-18, they will post stories and relevant materials to publicize growing opposition to the idea that more troops will bring stability to Afghanistan or secure the United States. Participants argue that Afghanistan has become an un-winnable, deepening quagmire, and that escalation will drain resources needed for recovery efforts at home. The group will post their work on various high-traffic websites and aggregate their work on a new website, GetAfghanistanRight.com.


Participants include:

* Brave New Films' Robert Greenwald
* Katrina vanden Heuvel of The Nation
* Alex Thurston and Jason Rosenbaum of The Seminal
* Howie Klein of DownWithTyranny!

"With the economy continuing a severe decline and the international scene in turmoil, we absolutely cannot afford a hugely expensive troop increase in Afghanistan. The country desperately needs many of the reforms and programs proposed by the incoming Obama administration. But, an escalation in Afghanistan will cripple our ability to mitigate the effects of the recession while making that country less stable. The success of the President-elect's broader agenda depends on his ability to get us out of President Bush's wars," Robert Greenwald said.

[...]

"An escalation would drain resources that are vital to President-elect Obama's goals for an economic recovery, health care, and social justice at home, while impeding other critical international initiatives such as the Middle East Peace process and a regional diplomacy in South Asia. On national security grounds, a U.S. occupation would be counterproductive to the stated goal of defeating Al Qaeda. This week, I and others will blog on this issue to raise awareness about the need to oppose an escalation and to get Afghanistan right," Katrina vanden Heuvel said.

Over at the Washington Independent Spencer Ackerman has some thoughtful things to say about the advent of this organization, his second point being particularly astute, given the way the rhetoric on Afghanistan evolved over the campaign season:

This was probably inevitable, for two reasons.


First, the actual strategy employed in Afghanistan is rather murky -- as Gen. Petraeus' remarks to the U.S. Institute of Peace on Thursday indicate -- and, pending some strategy review from the Obama administration and U.S. Central Command, it's by no means clear why sending additional troops stands a greater chance of yielding success. For that matter: what is success in Afghanistan? The fact that there isn't an obvious answer is a sure indication of policy drift. This is something that isn't just a matter of concern for bloggers. Rep. Jack Murtha (D-Penn.) has been warning about the dangers of a military-only escalation, as has Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.).

Second, for at least four years, there's been something of a dodge taken by liberals when discussing Afghanistan. To speak broadly, liberals have endlessly invoked the mantra that the real center of the war on terrorism is in Afghanistan, rather than in Iraq. But that's been a statement about Iraq, rather than Afghanistan. To put it a different way, liberals, I think it's fair to say, have discussed Afghanistan not on its own terms, but as a cudgel against the Iraq war. That's by no means monolithic. A bunch of progressives -- the Democracy Arsenal crew, Matt Yglesias, I daresay myself -- have written about Afghanistan (TWI sent me there last year) from that perspective of first-order-national security importance. But lots of us have been content to take the safe position of rallying to the more-popular cause of the Afghanistan war as a way of insulating ourselves to charges of excessive dovishness for opposing the Iraq war. Well, as he's said all along, Barack Obama will be calling that bluff.

While President-elect Barack Obama made constant pledges to extricate the United States from Iraq during the 2008 campaign, he took a different position on Afghanistan, which he elucidated to Time Mag...
While President-elect Barack Obama made constant pledges to extricate the United States from Iraq during the 2008 campaign, he took a different position on Afghanistan, which he elucidated to Time Mag...
 
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afghanistan is not iraq.
afghanistan harbored those who attacked us on 9/11 and who remain largely free.
These people are continuing to plot and will not stop until we capture or k i. ll them.
afghanistan has allowed the raping, disfigurement, and terrorizing of women and children with impunity.

the US military is there to help fix these problems.

afghanistan is NOT iraq. this is a war we must fight and we must win. this war is an essential component of our national security.

afghanistan is NOT iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 01/14/2009

we're ready to go, Mr. President. let's get at it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 01/14/2009
- PatCroft I'm a Fan of PatCroft 14 fans permalink
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This is a good start. We really have no business in this country. And if we did the only way we would succeed is to learn how to grow poppy.

I am hoping this will help persuade Obama about rethinking his thoughts.

Remember that this current government is about as corrupt and any corporation at the Eron level. Remember also that the Bush admin was offered BenLaden to a third country. But instead these neocons were bent on taking out the Taliban also. Hence an unnecessary war.

The only way to get this right is to not do war. Hence get rid of all of these armliments and stuff, and create the Department of Peace that will oversea destroying all the weapons and anything that does not directly contribute to the well being society.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 01/13/2009
- Kartoffel I'm a Fan of Kartoffel 9 fans permalink

And what happens when the two additional combat brigades fail to make any significant improvement in the situation? Acknowledge failure? Or send another two brigades? I think we all know the answer to that. Obama will double down his bet. Acknowledging the failure of his Afghan "surge" would constitute a humiliating military and political defeat, and it would probably make him a one-term president. He won't allow that. He'll keep escalating to save his political skin, same as JFK and LBJ. Democrats are always terrified of being blamed for losing wars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 01/12/2009
- hollybork I'm a Fan of hollybork 65 fans permalink

think there is such a profound culture clash between how we live, and how they live, and how we think they should live, that it will take a long time to get this figured out. In the meantime, we need to buy the entire poppy crop to keep that illicit money out of the hands of the terrorists. Afghanistan may be an impossible situation. I would go very very slow on anything other than buying their products and giving them minimum help as they request. They live on a level of the 6th century in tribalism, suspicious and hostile towards outsiders. Richard Clark in his book, Your Government Failed You, has some interesting insights about Afghanistan. This is the kind of place if you build a school in one village, you will infuriate the next village who will be envious and want revenge. Tough nut to crack. Even Russia couldn't do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 01/12/2009
- dizmo4 I'm a Fan of dizmo4 43 fans permalink

The solution to Afghanistan isn't complicated. It begins with providing security so that the country can be rebuilt. That requires additional US troops.

The next steps aren't complicated but they are very time consuming.
1. Rebuild infrastructure
2. Educate the populace -- essentially teach everyone in that nation to read
3. Stabilize the government.

Most Afghans have seen nothing but war (the country has been at war since 1980). Most are uneducated and illiterate. Most only know their local tribal government. It will take time and patience to be able to rebuild that nation enough that NATO can leave.

Simply because people are "tired" of the war or that there's an economic crisis does not mean the US should leave. Afghanistan IS NOT Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 01/12/2009
- dizmo4 I'm a Fan of dizmo4 43 fans permalink

Good grief. IF the US withdrawals from Afghanistan the Taliban WILL return since the Karzi government is not nearly strong enough. The Bush administration made horrible mistakes but this new group opposing any increase in combat forces in Afghanistan isn't the answer nor is it a good idea for liberal form a political perspective -- they're exactly the reason why Republicans generally beat Democrats on national security issues.

Look, the Afghan problem isn't nearly as complicated as Iraq. If the US had spent any time / money after the Soviet withdrawal in 89, there would have been no Taliban. The US funded, trained and equipped many of these Taliban fighters that we are now battling with. The idea that Afghanistan is a threat isn't theoretical ( as was the case with Iraq) its very real.

Afghanistan is a completely failed state, even now. It has essentially nothing so any "win" requires rebuilding that nation from scratch. There's few paved roads outside of the cities, few schools, extremely high illiteracy rates which makes training soldiers, teachers, government workers, etc extremely difficult. You can't send people to a class, you need to teach them to read and write first. They have 0 infrastructure. And more disturbingly there's an entire generation of Afghans that have no skills other than killing. It was and will continue to be a hot bed for terrorist activity since there's really nothing else for the average Afghan male.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 01/12/2009
- AnnfromCA I'm a Fan of AnnfromCA 168 fans permalink

Lookie here, folks......

We're talking about our next war, and there's a mere 18 comments.

LOL*

I rest my case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 01/12/2009
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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You rest your case for what? You thought Hillary would win the nomination, you think she won the "popular vote," you thought Sarah Palin would revive the GOP party and bring John McCain women voters, you thought John McCain would win the election, and you still defend Bush, who is the worst president in history.

After all that I posted, who would be cr@zy enough to take you seriously?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 01/12/2009

apparently you havent studied US history!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 01/12/2009
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The only way to help the US is to fund Afghanistan in developing a new government.

By

1. build schools
2. RESPECT their religion and culture (stop calling them names and epitaph)
3. New regime of leaders
4. Troop buildup is still needed 6 Brigades over 6 months
5. Remove 10 Brigades out of Iraq and BRING HOME
6. Peace talks with Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Iran, Palestine, Israel, Saudi Emirates, Egypt, and Israel. (All sit down and talk at once with Obama, Biden, & Clinton together at UN)
7. Marketing "makeover" of US relations with Middle East Countries
8. LASTLY, Diplomacy with Eastern African Countries that could assist and rebuild for US interests

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 01/12/2009
- MsAttitude I'm a Fan of MsAttitude 5 fans permalink
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1. Being done...but since their religion does not allow women to learn they are only for males. Opposing tribes will blow up each others school houses.

2. Will you require them to respect us too?

3. That will require an overthrow of their government.

4. Despite the fact that reqruitments are up manpower is down.

5. That is in the works.

6. This has been tried, all the way back to Carter and has never ever gotten anywhere.

7. How? Drop leaflettes?

8. US DoD stood up US African Command last September.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 01/12/2009

drop leaflets?

only 12% of the population is literate. berryessence is clueless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 01/14/2009

by not calling them 'names', we win? what? are you like, 12 years old or something? GROW UP. they burn our flags and call for the d e. ath of america every day and you think that by not using racial slurs we make 'friends' and we win?

do you know how many troops 6 brigades is or do you just like using the word 'brigade' because you watch Fox News and think it makes you sound military and tough?

marketing makeover? how old are you?

new regime of leaders? what?

ok, whatever. you have demonstrated nothing here but ignorance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 01/14/2009
- MsAttitude I'm a Fan of MsAttitude 5 fans permalink
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Another reason our military is stretched so thin is that we are peacekeepers around the world. In Sept the African Command was stood up. And you thought all of the money that our military spends goes to war! We are also cleaning up the the mess in Kenya that was created by Obama's fellow tribesmen.

http://www.africom.mil/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 01/12/2009

wroooong. the reason we're in africa is because it is one of the nascent fronts for fighting al qaeda. the horn of africa is home to many, many training camps and terrorists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 01/14/2009

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 01/12/2009

I for one would not feel comfortable just letting Al Queda get away with 9/11. We need to keep the pressure on them. Comparing our mission to that of Russia is apples and oranges to me. We have a clear mission and pretty clear targets. We must keep Al Queda on the run. We really need to lean on Pakistan and let them know that unless they provide more help than they have, then we will cut off all military aide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 01/12/2009

An absolutely essential book for anyone trying to"reform" Afghanistan through any means is "The Tragedy of Afghanistan" by Pakistani journalist Raja Anwar.

He looks in great detail at the efforts made by the Afghan left in the 1970s to curtail corruption, reform the feudal economy, put girls in school and stop the honor killings of women.

It's very illuminating to see in detail how and why their efforts failed.

They didn't just fail, in fact -- they triggered a civil that brought the Soviet Union into the country and now has brought our troops there as well.

This book is the world's best book on "reform strategies that have so far failed in Afghanistan."

The American mainstream media has tended to cover Afghanistan through Cold War blinders.

If you want to see what really happened over there during the 1970s and how the attempts at reform finally deteriorated badly enough to bring the Soviet Union in -- this is the one and only book that tells that story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 01/12/2009
- rasit I'm a Fan of rasit 10 fans permalink

While it may be great to leave things alone in other parts of the world, the globalization and the political situations in some parts of the world, make it necessary, not only for us, but for other countries, to deal with certain situations, before they become unmanageable...

For example, Somalia, the US tried to tackle the situation there, and after the Black Hawk incidence we left; now there is no govt. rampant unemployment etc. and some of the Somalis have taken up piracy, affecting all countries of the world due to interference with shipping....

These situations will develop in other countries, not only causing problems with trade, but also these countries becoming safe havens for the terrorists.....

It is a complicated and dangerous world out there and without proper preventative mitigation measures, our safety in the west will not be very good....Nobody likes war, but there are times when evil has to be fought and defeated....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 01/12/2009

I'm really pissed off at you goddamn liberals. Why is it okay for the US to be in Afghanistan? Is it because Obama says it"s the right war??? How can there be no outcry from the anti-war people about our involvement in Afghanistan? What the hell is going on? I"ve got one son in the Marine Corp and another on his way. The Marine Commandant wants to send thousands of Marines to Afghanistan? That country will never be turned into anything close to a democracy. The Soviets failed and we will fail.

I hope Obama institutes a draft. When they start sending the sons of you liberal hypocrites to Afghanistan, we"ll see how quiet you are then.

We've punnished the Afghans enough. We've taken our revenge. Lets go. My son (our sons) was 12 years old on 9/11. Why is he responsible? What can he change in Afghanistan?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 01/12/2009

Of course there's going to be a Strategy Review for Afghanistan. The Duuuhbuhya strategery was to ignore it. There has to be a NEW strategy and new tactics for Afghanistan going forward. Afghanistan needs to be rebuilt, not just proped up, but rebuilt from the ground up. Duuhbuhya ignored it and assumed the "pansy" Euros would do the job. Ya, another Strategery "success" from the Bushleague.

Afghanistan is where the REAL fight has always been. That's where Al Qaida is (there and next door in Pakistan). We need to do more to build infrastructure, which is something that we could get the Arab/Muslim world behind, assisting their "brother" muslims. We and NATO need to work to rebuild the military, the civilian government, and weed out the corruption that is just plain rampant there. Get Afghani's working again and doing something constructive and they will be less likely to join the Taliban.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 01/12/2009
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