Paterson's Secretive Senate Selection Process May Violate State Law

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MICHAEL GORMLEY | January 12, 2009 05:45 PM EST | AP

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ALBANY, N.Y. — Gov. David Paterson's secretive process to select Hillary Rodham Clinton's successor in the U.S. Senate conflicts with his campaign promises to open up government, and New York's top regulator of open government laws says it appears to violate state law.

Just days from announcing his choice, Paterson won't identify "about 10" people who he said are in the running to follow Clinton, President-elect Barack Obama's designated secretary of state. The governor won't release the blank questionnaire he sent to each candidate looking for background information. He won't turn over their completed forms.

"The process is confidential," is the stock answer from his office.

Keeping the questions posed to Senate hopefuls secret appears to violate the state's post-Watergate freedom of information laws, according to Robert Freeman, executive director of the state Committee on Open Government, the state agency that regulates enforcement of the good-government laws.

"How could it not be public? It's a blank form," said Freeman, a lawyer who since 1976 has been the top state employee advising government and the public on interpretation of the public officers' law.

The names of those under consideration also should be disclosed, Freeman said.

"In my mind, the identities of those seeking one of the highest offices in the land would not rise to the level of unwarranted invasion of personal privacy," Freeman told The Associated Press in an interview.

Freeman, who issues opinions and make recommendations but does not have the authority to sue for the release of public records, said at least some of the answers by candidates in their background checks probably should be public as well.

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State Attorney General Andrew Cuomo didn't respond to a question of whether he supported the secretive process.

Cuomo has refused to say if he is seeking the Senate seat but is widely considered to be high on the list. The perceived front-runner is Caroline Kennedy, who has sought the job much more publicly than the members of Congress and other elected officials said to be interested in it.

Some case law also would appear to go against Paterson. A court found that not even a village board could legally go into a closed-door executive session to discuss filling a vacant seat. Freeman said state law in some ways recognizes less privacy protection for those in public office or seeking public office compared to private citizens.

"Their personal privacy does not trump the public's right to know who their next senator will be," said Blair Horner of the New York Public Interest Research Group.

Horner said the need is particularly acute in light of accusations that Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich tried to sell to the highest bidder his appointment for Obama's vacant Senate seat.

"So why doesn't Governor Paterson get the candidates to pledge they won't raise campaign funds for him, so his appointment is not seen as just in the best of interest of his own political position?" Horner said.

Paterson's spokesmen wouldn't respond to that question Monday.

Paterson said Monday that he hasn't publicly disclosed the information he has received from potential candidates because the request wasn't "a government action. That was a personal request I made of the candidates. Some of the information was rather private."

The job of appointing a senator to serve until 2010 is Paterson's alone. At a news conference, he said he wouldn't release the background information he requested of candidates, which he said is "personal."

"The law is on his side as far as whether he has to do any this with transparency," said Barbara Bartoletti, legislative director of the League of Women Voters. "But good government is not on his side here."

A copy of the questionnaire to applicants, obtained by The New York Times after Paterson's office refused to release it, asks about finances and job history, but not about policy positions.

"I don't think I've heard any public positions," Bartoletti said. She noted that most of the hopefuls are in office and so have a record for the public to judge. The exception is Kennedy, who has never held public office and had long guarded her political opinions and privacy.

In 2005, then-Sen. Paterson relied on sarcasm when some of Albany's notorious secrecy was peeled back after some outrage by himself, voters and good-government groups.

"I'm astounded that I'm here," said Paterson at his first public budget negotiation that included minority party leaders.

Then, as a candidate for lieutenant governor in 2006, reform was central to his platform shared by Eliot Spitzer, whom Paterson succeeded as governor last year following a prostitution scandal.

"Reform is the biggest joke that the Legislature tries to perpetrate on the public, and the public is not laughing," Paterson said in 2006.

"This governor ran on a ticket whose major thrust was government reform and that's what people thought they would get when they elected that team," Bartoletti said. "I think everybody is watching."

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Associated Press Writers Michael Virtanen in Albany and Samantha Gross in New York City contributed to this report.

ALBANY, N.Y. — Gov. David Paterson's secretive process to select Hillary Rodham Clinton's successor in the U.S. Senate conflicts with his campaign promises to open up government, and New York's ...
ALBANY, N.Y. — Gov. David Paterson's secretive process to select Hillary Rodham Clinton's successor in the U.S. Senate conflicts with his campaign promises to open up government, and New York's ...
 
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If Hillary hasn't officially resigned yet, Paterson is under no obligation to disclose anything because, officially, there isn't a vacancy yet. Once she is selected for Secretary of State and she resigns from theUSA Senate, then what he does or does not do is fair game.

We got the cart before the horse here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 01/12/2009

Agreed. And Hillary will not resign until she is confirmed as SoS...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 01/13/2009
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...don't call hillary a horse!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 01/13/2009
- gbht12 I'm a Fan of gbht12 3 fans permalink

Carolyn is in her own "class" as that one Palin said. Let Carolyn have it. She has done so much good in the world. How hard can this be???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 01/12/2009

She has done so much good in the world.

Arte you joking?

This woman has INHERITED 440 million bucks!

She has taken much more than her worth.

But she wants more. as the royals always do...

MORE- MORE-MORE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 01/12/2009
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Given the spelling, could gbht12 be referring to Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney? Because she's been a tremendous advocate on behalf of the 14th district, the state of New York and progressive values.

I'm behind giving a hard worker with that record of achievements the opportunity to discover what she can do when she's at the next level.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 01/13/2009
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30 = apples?

Pace = green?

What on earth does inheritance have to do with whether or not a person did good? She has used her education, talents, resources and connections to do good. Not exclusively by any means, but - She has a BA from Radcliffe and a JD from Columbia Law. She's held executive positions for nonprofits, raised a family, written books about constitutional law (In Our Defense: The Bill of Rights in Action, 1991; The Right to Privacy, 1997). Bright, well-educated, connected, involved, strong on education (has worked for the last five years for New York public schools), knowledgeable and dedicated to charitable works.

Wanting to become a public servant is wanting "more?"

Royals?

Give it a rest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 01/13/2009
- Geranium I'm a Fan of Geranium 15 fans permalink

Who's Carolyn?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 01/13/2009
- meko I'm a Fan of meko 93 fans permalink
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There are a lot of really smart, hard-working, accomplished progressive Democrats up for the position. Paterson is spoiled for choice. There's no reason to rush such an important decision. Especially when Hillary hasn't vacated the seat and the background checks aren't done.

Most of the people up for the job have been elected to office, so they've already had their finances and such checked. But the less experienced people need to go through the process to prevent embarrassment for everyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 01/13/2009

Perhaps if the committees that vetted Bill Richardson -- one of which was headed by the feckless Caroline, by the way -- perhaps Obama and Richardson would have been spared the embarrassment that forced Richardson to withdraw from Obama's cabinet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 01/13/2009

She's done very little in the world -- either good or bad. That's the problem with Caroline. And, inasmuch as New York has about a dozen people waiting in the wings who would be splendid in that job, giving it to the inexperienced -- and apparently inept -- Caroline instead of them suggests backroom dealings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 01/13/2009
- rogerze I'm a Fan of rogerze 4 fans permalink

Paterson is blind

He can't see what's right in front of his face.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 01/12/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Hamas?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 01/12/2009

Yea that polling has shown that 75% of NYers do not want her chosen and that by 2 to 1 they want Cuomo over her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 01/12/2009
- rogerze I'm a Fan of rogerze 4 fans permalink

Hopefully he will be able to open his eyes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 01/12/2009
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M'fers can't wait for a WEEK ... ?

Darn it ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 01/12/2009

The Kennedy crowd will try ANY KIND of pressure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 01/12/2009

Yes, it's quite shameful. Soon Teddy will be gone. Interesting to see that Reid and Bloomberg have behaved like Teddy's henchmen. I think Bloomberg has delighted us long enough. Reid obviously needs to get lost too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 01/13/2009
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I can't imagine how awkward it would be if Paterson appointed someone and then Clinton wasn't confirmed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 01/12/2009

try, VERY...awkward that is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 01/13/2009
- duze I'm a Fan of duze 25 fans permalink

That's what he's waiting for. She still hasn't been confirmed, so technically, there's no seat to give away. The man's blind, he's not stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 AM on 01/13/2009
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What's wrong with these Dem Gov's. Pick someone and be done with it already. If he can't get elected on his own merits then he shouldn't be Gov. All this horsing around is a bunch of crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 01/12/2009

What's your hurry? Have you made bets about this thing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 01/13/2009
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Why is this a story? He can't fill the seat until it's unoccupied and currently, HRC is still the junior Senator of New York. Once she is confirmed then they can blast this type of story all over the place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 01/12/2009
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And HC hasn't been confirmed yet or resigned the seat though, probably is a done deal. That raises an interesting question. Why hasn't she resigned the senate seat? Is there something in her past that might make her not eligible to be SAS? Hmmmmmmmm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 01/12/2009
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Appointments fall through at the last minute all the time. I've never quit a job before getting a signed offer letter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 01/12/2009
- duze I'm a Fan of duze 25 fans permalink

Paul v. Clinton, L.A. Superior Court, Case # BC 304174. charges are fraud, deceit, unjust enrichment, and civil conspirarcy. Sounds about right for a SOS doesn't it.
See www. Peterfpaul.com Get the real story, get to know the real Clinton's, and what their capable of to get what they want. I'm sure someone on the panel knows all about this.
Let's wait and see if they bring it up.

This IS the something in her past, that could very well come home to haunt her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 01/13/2009
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if she resigned, im sure republicans would make it a goal not to have her confirmed just to get her out of DC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 01/13/2009

You're right -- it's not a story. It's more Kennedy flackwork. It's extremely crude, and it's turning people off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 01/13/2009
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It does seem similar to the AP announcement 10 days ago that "two officials" confirmed she's the choice. I'm sure it will get reprinted everywhere without further comment or action.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 01/13/2009
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 643 fans permalink
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maybe he's waiting for Oscar's night -- or the kickoff of the Superbowl.
I mean, clearly he's "got this thing. and it's golden"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 01/12/2009
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You don't read the story or read previous post. N.Y. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has not resigned her seat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 01/12/2009
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That doesn't mean he has to wait to announce who will replace her, we knew who was replacing Biden a month ago, and he won't be resigning until next week.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 01/12/2009
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 643 fans permalink
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I was just snarkin' on Blago. Hold yer fyre

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 01/13/2009
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Has Hillary resigned? If not, this is moot until she is confirmed as Sec. of State.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 01/12/2009
- voltage356 I'm a Fan of voltage356 21 fans permalink
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Thank you she refuse to give up her seat until confirmed. Just a selfish act on her part. The CLINTONS need to keep that money flowing either way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 01/12/2009
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Please get over the Clinton hatred - it's so BO-ring. Where is your outrage at the fact that Joe Biden hasn't resigned yet? He already HAS another job?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 01/13/2009
- duze I'm a Fan of duze 25 fans permalink

Especially since Bill isn't the only one quilty of illegal contributions. Seems there is a questions of how Hillary raised money for her New York State Senate Campaign. She took Paul's money and never looked back. How's that for honesty and integrity in government.
Youtube, The Video Hillary Doesn't Want You To See, Parts 1 & 2.

www.peterfpaul.com

L.A. Superior Court, Case # BC304174, charges fraud, unjust enrichment, deceit and civil conspirarcy. The trial is being conducted by Judge Aurellio Munuz, a Clinton appointee.
Interesting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 AM on 01/13/2009
- duze I'm a Fan of duze 25 fans permalink

It's not a selfish act on her part, she trying to get a job, while she has a job. Doesn't everybody?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 01/13/2009

Why should she resign until she knows she's got the other job? To make room for Bossy Teddy's dre ary niece, whom New Yorkers don't even want?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 01/13/2009

Patterson should just appoint himself if they give him any problems with Kennedy's appointment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 01/12/2009

He could do that, but then New York would have to come up with a new governor -- someone who is good enough to navigate our troubled economy. This is not a good time to change governors. Picking a new Senator is a lot easier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 01/13/2009
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The fix is in Berine Madoff will be named to the seat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 01/12/2009
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*shudder*
nothing shocks me anymore

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 01/12/2009
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Democrats are so inefficient..Name the NYC Mayor to serve 2 terms as Senator and let Kennedy and Coumo fight it out in the Primary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 01/12/2009

he was elected twice as a Republican

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 01/12/2009
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Where did you take civics classes? He can't name anyone to serve two terms - unless you mean two years. And Bloomberg is already enough of a megalomaniac, thank you very much, in addition to being ANOTHER downstater, in addition to the governor, both current senators, the attorney general, etc., etc., etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 01/13/2009

I think that after his high-handed behavior regarding term limits, a lot of people who used to like Bloomberg now regard him as a menace who shouldn't be given any further responsibility. He has behaved very badly with respect to this Caroline business -- he seems to be trying to build some kind of political machine of his own and IMO, he needs to be stopped -- and quickly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 01/13/2009
- XME I'm a Fan of XME 26 fans permalink
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Beware of politicians who are hesitant to make a decision...they're the one's who typically seem more concerned with trying to "feel out" which decision will be best for their CAREER, not best for their state, country, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 01/12/2009
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Yes, beware of those who take the time out to think things through. 'Tis better for a pol to fly by the seat of his pants and operate off "instinct," unsupported by facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 01/12/2009
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Twisting my comments...there's a difference between thinking things through and being afraid to make a decision at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 01/13/2009
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Paterson is not afraid to tell people that he's sticking to his original decision of waiting for Hillary's confirmation before appointing her replacement.

I love the revisionist history that some of you misinformed posters spout.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 AM on 01/13/2009

Who thought that genius dictum up? Plato? Plato's cocker spaniel? Only fo ols make important decisions without research and reflection.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 01/13/2009
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I don't live in either NY or Illinois at present, although I have in the past. I speak here as a citizen of the entire US in wanting an intelligent person in my senate. We have had a complete dummox (to put it nicely) forced upon us in the form of Roland Burris. We now need, to balance out the inanity of that choice with an intelligent person---let it be Caroline Kennedy!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 01/12/2009

What is a dummox? I though Burris was the former Illinois Attorney General? For your information, not too many current or former Senators have Burris' credentials!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 01/12/2009
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not a very good one! I live in Illinois!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 01/12/2009
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I live in western ny and I also say let it be Caroline Kennedy. I got to meet her uncle Bobby when I was 13 and he was campaigning here, my mom picked my brother and I up from school to go see him. To me it is an honor that she wants to be my senetor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 01/12/2009

Y'know, even to this yellowdog dem, this woman really doesnt sound like a genuis...y'know?
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Everything below is from the Buffalo News:

CK talking about her experiences with NY outside of Manhattan

December 30, 2008

The Tom Precious interview with Caroline Kennedy included this doozy, when the Park Avenue Princess was asked about upstate New York:

"I do remember going with my Uncle Bobby (Kennedy) and I have friends who live not far north of the city, not far upstate....

"And my daughter went to camp in the Adirondacks. So, it"s more like vacationing. And I have, of course, friends who have moved from upstate down to the city...."

(huh?)

Oh, well, I guess it could have been worse. I mean, she could have said, "I have friends who are upstaters," or "I would have no problem if my son or daughter married an upstater."

About the most curious reason I've heard from people who support Kennedy's appointment to the Senate is "at least she's not a professional politician." I understand the sentiment on one hand, given the state of our state.

But, look, it's not a bad thing to be up to speed on the issues, or to have knowledge of the state beyond the Manhattan skyline, or to know more about what it takes to pass a bill than what's taught in a high school civics class."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 01/12/2009
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Intelligent person? Caroline Kennedy? Not from the interviews she's given. I hate to agree with Sarah Palin on ANYthing, but if she'd given that NY Times interview, Democrats would be mocking her from here to kingdom come. It's not discrimination on the basis of class, though, it's discrimination on the basis of Kennedy-worship,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 01/13/2009

Too bad for you, but we don't elect senators at large in this country. Whoever Paterson chooses will be the Senator from New York --- and ONLY New York.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 01/13/2009
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This is a NY governor's choice when the time actually comes, not the American Public's. I wish al who are typing in their posts wold tell all if they actually reside in NY or are either O supporters forever beholden to the Caroline endorsement or republicans against anything the dems do anyhow. I am a Kansan who has no issues regarding who is appointed, but understands that the seat is not yet open and thinks the governor is doing the right thing by not announcing, but by trying to be able to make a tryuly informed decision for HIS state and the interests of the nation, as well. .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 01/12/2009
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