Top Recruiter Weighs Fat Camp For Army Recruits

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SUSANNE M. SCHAFER | January 12, 2009 09:08 AM EST | AP

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Pvt. Idalia Halley,19 left, of Columbia, S.C. stands with her "battle buddy" Pvt. Katrina Thompkins, 19 of Greenville, S.C. during rifle training at a shooting range Tuesday, Nov. 18, 2008, at Fort Jackson, S.C. Both women had issues with their weight but with five weeks of training behind them and doing daily push-ups, sit-ups and working on running a two-minute mile they are confident they are ready to pass basic training. (AP Photo/Mary Ann Chastain)

FORT JACKSON, S.C. — The Army has been dismissing so many overweight applicants that its top recruiter, trying to keep troop numbers up in wartime, is considering starting a fat farm to transform chubby trainees into svelte soldiers.

Maj. Gen. Thomas Bostick, head of the Army Recruiting Command, said he wants to see a formal diet and fitness regimen running alongside a new school at Fort Jackson that helps aspiring troops earn their GEDs.

Bostick told The Associated Press that obesity looms as "a bigger challenge for us in the years ahead" than any other problem that keeps young people from entering the military, including lack of a GED or high school diploma, misconduct or criminal behavior and other health issues such as eye or ear problems.

According to Defense Department figures provided to the AP, over the past four years 47,447 potential recruits flunked induction physicals at the nation's 35 Military Entrance Processing Stations because they were overweight.

That is a fraction of the 205,902 such exams given in 2005 and 250,764 in 2008, but still amounts to a hefty number and comes at a time when the military is more interested than ever in recruits. The Army and Marine Corps together paid more than $600 million over the past year in bonuses and other financial incentives to attract volunteers.

While the services have reported exceeding their recruiting goals in the past year, the Pentagon remains under pressure to find a constant flow of recruits. The Defense Department has announced plans to boost the active duty Army by 65,000 to a total of 547,000 soldiers by next year, and grow the Marines from 175,000 to 202,000 by 2011.

Obesity afflicts recruits for other physically demanding jobs, including firefighters. Deputy Chief Ed Nied, chair of the safety, health and survival section of the International Association of Fire Chiefs, said fire departments are also making a "major push" to encourage better fitness among young people who want to join.

"We draw from the same exact population that they (the military) draw from," Nied said from his Tucson, Ariz., headquarters. "This comes from a lack of physical education in the high schools."

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In an interview during a visit to the Army's largest training installation, Bostick said a slim-down camp could be part of the new Army Prep School at Fort Jackson, S.C. The school opened in August, and gives recruits who didn't graduate from high school the chance to earn a GED before starting their nine weeks of basic training.

"We are looking at the Army Prep School as a place where we might send some (recruits) that have weight issues," the two-star general said.

The prep school is housed in several one- and two-story buildings on a small part of this sprawling training installation. The classrooms and living quarters are Spartan. GED candidates wear Army uniforms, exercise before breakfast and study under the guidance of enlisted officers. They do not mix or conduct weapons training with soldiers participating in the nine weeks of basic training maneuvers elsewhere on the fort.

Bostick argues that many of the young people who want to join the Army have a hard time understanding a healthy diet and the importance of daily exercise, but could get within the military limits with guidance.

"It took them 18 years to get to where they are at, so it's very difficult for them to lose the kind of weight that they need to on their own," said Bostick, who did not provide any timing for when his idea might reach fruition, nor any projection of its potential cost.

Lawrence J. Korb, a former Pentagon chief of personnel during the Reagan administration, said the Army has to fight even harder than the other service branches to get the recruits they need.

"The Army has a tough time recruiting as compared to the other services," said Korb, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank in Washington. He said the burden for fighting an unpopular war in Iraq has fallen primarily on the military's largest service.

"They are doing this because they are desperate," Korb said.

Recruiters echo Bostick's worries about weight issues among potential candidates for the military.

"I'd say that out of every 10 applicants that come in, probably three we couldn't take _ they are obese," said Sgt. Darryl Bogan, a recruiter in Columbia. An additional 20 percent to 30 percent of recruits are slightly overweight, but some can get the weight off, Bogan said.

"We are getting heavier as a nation as far as our young people are concerned," Bogan said.

Besides basic weight and height guidelines, Bogan said the Army uses body fat percentages and an aerobics test to determine whether recruits can withstand the rigors of basic training. Recruits must step up and down on a riser at a certain rate per minute, then perform some push-ups and sit-ups and have their heart rates measured.

One of Bogan's recruits, 18-year-old Idalia Halley, was shocked when she found she was a few pounds too heavy to enter boot camp.

"My mom was like, 'You better come run with me,'" Halley recalled, saying it took several weeks of healthy eating and runs with her Army-veteran mom to finally get into the service.

On her second try, Halley said she weighed in at 162 pounds and logged a 30 percent rate of body fat to meet the Army's standard.

Toting her M-16 during weapons exercises in basic training, Halley said she'd slimmed down even more in the first weeks of training.

"I know I've lost some weight because I have to pull my pants up tighter," the Army private said. "And besides, I don't think the food's all that great _ except breakfast."

FORT JACKSON, S.C. — The Army has been dismissing so many overweight applicants that its top recruiter, trying to keep troop numbers up in wartime, is considering starting a fat farm to transfor...
FORT JACKSON, S.C. — The Army has been dismissing so many overweight applicants that its top recruiter, trying to keep troop numbers up in wartime, is considering starting a fat farm to transfor...
 
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with only P W T and their P B T equivalent attracted to the Army, what would one expect, trained marathon runners?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 01/13/2009

Unless you grew up in Appalachia or the 'hood, that's a pretty nasty thing to say!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 01/13/2009
- TLV I'm a Fan of TLV 128 fans permalink

Other posters have written about high fructose con syrup. This is horrible stuff and it is in EVERYTHING!.

Not only is it concentrated calories, it is made of corn. Many people are allergic to corn and do not even know it. Their bodies react in different ways, but a common one is eczema, especially in children. As a child, I could not eat anything with corn syrup for any length of time. If I did, I developed horrible, itchy, oozing rashes. If I were a child today and if I ate more manufactured food, I'd be miserable!

Another common reaction is asthma.Think of how many new cases of asthma pop up every year. What about ADD and behavior problems? Look to corn syrup as a possible reasons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 01/13/2009
- ceasenake I'm a Fan of ceasenake 8 fans permalink

The caption says Idalia and Katrina are "working on running a two-minute mile"! Wow, that's about twice as fast as anyone has ever done it before. 30 MPH super soldiers ...must be because Obama is improving things already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 01/13/2009
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... but suggest that we make High Fructose Corn Syrup and Trans Fats illegal? That's un-American.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 01/13/2009
- pydbl I'm a Fan of pydbl 3 fans permalink
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Well, there are plenty of laws that are un-American,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 01/13/2009
- gmlaster I'm a Fan of gmlaster 43 fans permalink

So is warrant-less wiretapping, but we do that too. Getting rid of corn syrup and trans fats is at least good for me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 01/13/2009
- b93950 I'm a Fan of b93950 4 fans permalink
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Hey, what so bad about a fat soldier. He can cover the platoon from enemy fire and offer shade at the same time. Forward thinking by the military.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 01/13/2009
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Obesity is a much bigger problem than this, it is the single biggest factor in increasing health costs, which is the biggest factor in making US workers unable to compete in the global economy. The best solution would be for Obama to use the "bully pulpit" to get the whole country back in shape and make it patriotic to be healthy. Think of all the money saved getting millions off of their daily fix of expensive designer prescription drugs for cholesterol, blood-pressure, acid-blockers and anti-depressants. All the PC excuses for obesity need to stop, they are not helping anyone. Oh yeah and stop with the genetic excuse, and the bad diet excuse, people had the same genes in the 60's and ate bacon and eggs for breakfast and weren't fat. Stop listening to all the people making it seem confusing and difficult to make money books and TV shows - if you're overweight, eat less exercise more - period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 01/13/2009
- gmlaster I'm a Fan of gmlaster 43 fans permalink

You make some really valid points and I think if Obama really wants to reform health care, he's going to have to charge each of us with at least some responsibility for our own health. Even totally free health care can't make you get off your butt and exercise or lay off the pizza. It wouldn't hurt if he offered incentives like tax breaks for non-seniors who maintain a gym membership.

But as we age, maintaining good health gets much harder. As someone who holds a gym membership and takes cholesterol, heart and diabetes meds, I can tell you I don't enjoy it. My designer prescriptions cost me $300.00 a month and even with exercise, I have to get my "fix" every day or I will die. It's not a PC excuse. It just sucks to get old. No amount of exercise will change that.

Yes, we're fat and we haven't done all we can to stay healthy. But the FDA hasn't lived up to its responsibilities either. Nowadays, it's in the back pocket of the food industry lobby and big pharmaceuticals. Back in the 60's farmers didn't shoot their livestock full of steroids to fatten them artificially. We had family farmers who grew natural food. Now we have government-subsidized corporate farms that grow genetically-engineered crops that look delicious but have no taste. Yes, we all need to eat healthier and exercise. But it would help if the food we're given to eat wasn't garbage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 01/13/2009
- Aleister I'm a Fan of Aleister 9 fans permalink
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Isn't the Army the service of last choice, wasn't that the point that was being made in the bill murray movie STRIPES,

Maybe their new slogan could have a pleading Uncle Sam saying, something like this:

If your a Big Fat Loser.......... "I WANT YOU," For the US ARMY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 01/13/2009

Eight years of Bush has made the Army into the service of last choice.

It is disgusting what the "car magnet support the troops Republicans" have done to the military in general and in particular to the Army.

My husband and I are both former Army Captains from the pre-Bush era when it was not the sevice of last choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 01/13/2009
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 193 fans permalink

From An Army of One.

To An Army of 1.75!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 01/12/2009
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 106 fans permalink
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Well since its mostly poor people signing up and they are probably surviving on boxes of ramen and cheap hot dogs whats the big surprise? hell, they'e probably signing up for the food.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 01/12/2009

Wow! The military has relaxed it's standards since I was in the Army in the early 80's. Back then the most I could weigh was 174 pounds with very little body fat. Being a 5'8" male, it was hard to do with all of that great German beer around me. We had monthly weigh-ins and if you were even one pound over weight you went for a pinch test and alot of extra P.T. until you got that pound off of you. We are coddling these kids too much now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 01/12/2009
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Think of the old days compared to now and you will realize that the trouble in this country is High Fructose Corn Syrup being used to sweeten everything. Back when sugar was being used, people were less fat, but then companies decided it was cheaper to use the corn syrup for sweetening up things and the pounds started to build up on people. the body can use and burn sugar better then the corn syrup, so it just sticks around and turns to fat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 01/12/2009
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I'm not sure I'd blame it simply on the High Fructose Corn Syrup. Some things to consider:

--20% of teens and young adults eat out at fast food places at least 3 times a week.
--The kid's hamburger at McDonald's used to be the standard serving size for adults.
--The average teenager only gets about 49 minutes of exercise during the weekday and 35 on the weekends, instead of the recommended 60 minutes for a teenager on a reasonably healthy diet.

You add that up, and sugar or corn syrup, you end up with an overweight population of youngsters. Even places that use cane sugar in their drinks are seeing the increase.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 01/12/2009
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Someone check the picture caption.

"...and working on running a two-minute mile they are confident they are ready to pass basic training."

The current world record for a mile is about 3:45.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 01/12/2009
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 106 fans permalink
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Yes but they become HEROES once they join the military

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 01/13/2009
- USA2Sense I'm a Fan of USA2Sense 6 fans permalink

.(correction)!!!!!!!!!....who should NOT have access to college to begin with.......................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 01/12/2009
- USA2Sense I'm a Fan of USA2Sense 6 fans permalink

Oh for God's sake - I've never heard anything so asinine...........I think our government should make an agreement with either the Israelie Armiy and/or French Foreign Legion, British SAS - and send these fattie through their basic training - they would shape up faster by not being coddled by the U.S. forces and going to fat-camp........

Come to think of it, ship them all to Israel and make them serve there for one full-year before they can qualify for our armed forces......only reason I say Israel, is that they have a reputation for just about the most 'no-nonsense' armed forces in the world..........on the other hand, the same might be accomplished by serving in the Jordanian armed forces too........they brook no nonsense.............

OR the U.S. could wake up, and institute a term of four years in the U.S. armed forces for every man and woman who graduates from high school - and is a legal citizen of this country - mandatory service wouldn't hurt half the slobs out there - and it would sure save a lot of college loans for a bunch of losers who should have access to college to begin with.........................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 01/12/2009
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You would have to drop the word free from your "free and democratic" motto .... come to think of it you dropped the democratic part 8 years ago so you new motto would be "and".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 01/12/2009

I imagine a bunch of middle aged mothers running to join the Army just to loose weight. A weight watchers alternative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 01/12/2009
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