El Paso, Texas, Calls On Congress To Debate Drug Legalization: Dems Refuse

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First Posted: 01-14-09 08:28 AM   |   Updated: 02-14-09 05:12 AM

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The city of El Paso buckled to unusually explicit federal government pressure Tuesday and withdrew a call for a national debate on ending drug prohibition.

Last Tuesday, the El Paso city council voted 8-0 to express solidarity with its sister city in Mexico, Juarez, which has seen its murder rate double this year alone as the Mexican government has waged war on powerful drug cartels. To slow that violence, the resolution called for "an honest, open national debate on ending the prohibition of narcotics."

That was enough to get Washington's attention.

Mayor John Cook vetoed the resolution and Rep. Silvestre Reyes, a Democrat who represents El Paso in Congress, lobbied each councilmember, making it clear that if the resolution calling for a debate passed, El Paso would risk losing money in the upcoming stimulus legislation. Five Texas House representatives made the same threat.

"Funding for local law enforcement efforts and other important programs to our community are likely being put in jeopardy," lawmakers warned in a letter to the city, "especially during a time when state resources are scarce."

Four members of the council switched their votes and supported the veto; three of them publicly cited the funding threat as the reason for backing down.

"When you receive calls and you have both members of the state and federal level telling you that you might lose funding for projects that are of vital importance for El Paso then you know you have to stop and think," said city Representative Eddie Holguin, adding that "at this point, I can't jeopardize funding from the state or the federal level." The councilmembers' comments are reported in the local NewspaperTree.com account of Tuesday night's meeting and confirmed to the Huffington Post by witnesses.

Reyes said that members of Congress last week approached him to ask what was going on in his city. "[T]he publicity that was generated last week ... made it seem that the resolution was calling on Congress to legalize drugs," Reyes said, noting that he knew that was not the intention.

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"That was the perception up here," said Reyes, chairman of the House intelligence committee, "and a number of members brought it to my attention and asked me directly, 'What gives with your city council? Why are they wanting to legalize drugs?' So, I told them, essentially, please let the mayor's veto stand and put this behind us. We've got huge issues that are facing us as a Congress. We've got a stimulus package, where I'm working hard to get money going directly to the city to fund projects that'll put people to work."

Reyes said he was afraid that other members of Congress would use the publicity against El Paso in the funding fight. "My concern always is, if we've got a negative connotation about things in my district," he said, then it makes getting federal dollars harder. He cited his long-running battle in Congress against the notion that El Paso was running out of water. Whenever he tried to get federal funds for El Paso's base, Fort Bliss, or other projects, his colleagues would raise the water issue. "Why invest government funds in facilities in an area that's going to run out of water?" he said they'd argue.

"So that's the concern. Any time you have negative perceptions, you open the door for others to use that as leverage to get more money in their districts and not in mine," he said. "I'm up here representing the district and I can tell people based on my experience what helps me and what doesn't."

City Rep. Emma Acosta said that she had finally been overcome by the funding threat. "If we had voted yesterday I would have voted in favor of it," she said. City Rep. Rachel Quintana, before switching her vote, explained that the pressure from Reyes and the state legislators "absolutely pushed me over."

The council needed six votes to override the veto; the vote was split, 4-4.

City Rep. Steve Ortega called the federal big-footing un-American.

"I also want to ask our state legislators and our U.S. congressman to openly name anybody who is threatening the city of El Paso with withholding funding for having dialogue," he said. "That is un-American, and that is in contravention to our First Amendment. So I'm going to stand with the action that we took last Tuesday. There is to me nothing wrong with having a debate and a dialogue."

City Rep. Beto O'Rourke, the sponsor of the legalization amendment, said that "the threat from Congressman Reyes, then articulated again by our House delegation at the state level is unfortunate, but it's having its desired affect, which is to chill discussion."

"I haven't heard a specific congressman or senator who has threatened to withhold that money, just vague, unspecific threats that should we have the courage of our convictions, money will be withheld from this community," said O'Rourke.

The council passed the resolution last week as a way to combat the spiraling violence that threatens to undermine the neighboring Mexican state and spill over into the United States. "We are witness to the collapse of civil authority in a city of more than 1.5 million people, a city where many of us work or have family, and a city which contributes over $2 billion a year to our local economy," argued O'Rourke. "Add to this a very real national security threat, recently highlighted by former U.S. Drug Czar Barry McCaffrey, that we face the looming prospect of a failed state on our southern border."

A group of law enforcement officers who oppose drug prohibition descended on El Paso to urge the councilmembers not to backpedal from their original votes. Terry Nelson, a retired federal officer and former drug warrior, has been lobbying the city council and published an op-ed in the Sunday El Paso Times. "Only when we take away their profit margins by legalizing drugs will the cartels' financial incentive for murder disappear," wrote Nelson, a member of the group Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP). "It perplexes me that Mayor John Cook and other observers dismiss outright the notion that we should even talk about ending prohibition, as if not discussing it has fostered great results for us so far."

Reyes didn't wait for the veto override vote to begin a national debate. "Legalizing the types of drugs that are being smuggled across the border is not an effective way to combat the violence in Mexico, and I would not support efforts in Congress that would seek to do so," said Reyes, a former border patrol agent. He canceled two scheduled meetings with O'Rourke during the week.

Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), chairman of the Judiciary Committee, punted on the question. "I don't get into state politics, especially if it's not my state," he said of the El Paso resolution.

Reyes, in a letter to councilmembers, made a veiled threat that if El Paso passed the resolution, it stood to lose federal funds. "As our nation faces one of the worst economic crises since the Great Depression, Congress is currently crafting an economic stimulus package in which El Paso stands to benefit," he wrote. "While this resolution is well-intentioned, I believe its passage would be counterproductive to our efforts to enact an ambitious legislative agenda at the federal level."

Testifying before the council on Tuesday, Robert Almonte, executive director of the Texas Narcotic Officers' Association, told the council that it would be "detrimental to call for open and honest debate on legalizing narcotics."

On Monday, President Bush appointed an interim head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy. The interim "Drug Czar," Patrick Ward, is an Air Force veteran who believes the way to win the War on Drugs is to stop the supply at the border or root it out in source countries.

In December, Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard said that the state should consider legalizing marijuana, noting that three-quarters of the cartels' business comes from pot.

On Tuesday night, after hours of debate, O'Rourke argued -- unsuccessfully -- that bowing to federal pressure would set a precedent they should avoid. "All we're asking for is a conversation, and no important issue in the history of the United States -- social, criminal, legal or otherwise -- has ever been harmed by having an open discussion. That's all we're asking for today," he said.

"It's not just this issue. It sets a precedent that when debate is to be chilled, when positions are to be changed, people higher up will threaten us that we'll lose our money, and you have to ask yourselves if you can live with that."

Reyes, however, told the Huffington Post that he doesn't oppose a debate on legalization. He only opposed the timing, coming as it did as Obama was meeting with the Mexican president and Congress was debating the stimulus.

"If it's still an issue [after the stimulus passes], I'm not opposed to perhaps even entertaining a hearing," said Reyes. "I can look at that if they want to pursue it."

The city of El Paso buckled to unusually explicit federal government pressure Tuesday and withdrew a call for a national debate on ending drug prohibition. Last Tuesday, the El Paso city council vote...
The city of El Paso buckled to unusually explicit federal government pressure Tuesday and withdrew a call for a national debate on ending drug prohibition. Last Tuesday, the El Paso city council vote...
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- Brinna I'm a Fan of Brinna 2 fans permalink
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The stifling of public debate on our nation's drug policies has been the agenda of the drug warriors since the drug war's inception. Since science will not support our ongoing prohibition of cannabis, nor the criminalization of what is a public health issue, nothing must be said about it.

"Just Say No" -- has nothing to do with saying no to drugs, and everything to do with saying no to intelligent public discourse.

Shame on Reyes, shame on Cook, and shame on the council members that backed down from their principled stance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 01/15/2009

If the United States of America and Mexico legalize, regulate, and tax the sale of marijuana, heroin, and cocaine for people who are at least 18 years old, they may be able to spend less money fighting violent drugs gangs and more money on their economies. If Mexico's economy grows a lot, fewer illegal immigrants may come to the United States of America, many illegal immigrants may leave the United States of America, and many more Mexicans may be able to buy products and services from the United States of America. Many poor people may have an easier time obtaining jobs if they do not have to compete against so many illegal immigrants. Most non violent drug offenders should be released from prison to make room for violent criminals. If state governments are able to spend less money dealing with violent crime, dealing with illegal immigrants who are a major expense for them, and dealing with non violent drug offenders, they may be able to spend more money providing services to their citizens and reduce their sales taxes. Would you rather our country spend money jailing non violent drug offenders or would you rather our country spend the money on k-12 education and other things?

I posted comments after several columns on http://www.newgeography.com

I graduated from the University of New Hampshire in 1992 with a BA Degree in Political Science and a minor in Economics.

I ran for United States Senate in 2002.

Sincerely,

Ken Stremsky

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 01/15/2009
- SKOC211 I'm a Fan of SKOC211 8 fans permalink

We aren't even allowed to have a dialogue about decriminalization!? This is beyond stupid, it's downright dangerous to suppress conversations and view points in a democracy. And over something that is ultimately so trivial and, as far as I'm concerned, obvious. It seems to me that the powers that be within Congress and the Federal government are still very much stuck in the 20th century with regard to marijuana propaganda. I wonder how long it will be until those that represent us realize that their constituencies are made up of a lot of law abiding pot smokers who would embrace decriminalization and the ensuing taxes that would create billions of dollars in revenue for the government - not to mention saving money on this useless and expensive war on drugs.

Whatever. It's not going to stop me from lighting up tonight when I'm done with classes, work, and all the other responsibilities that I have that my herbal preferences have no effect on - or rather, no negative effect, the stress relief alone is worth the price!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 01/15/2009

If we're serious about securing our borders, protecting our children from drug-dealing murderers, AND pumping some much-needed revenue into the public treasury, we'll implement a Personal Use and Cultivation Permit, similar to a fishing permit, allowing ordinary Americans to grow a little marijuana in their own back yards. Sold by the States and splitting the revenue 50-50 with the Federal treasury, if the permit cost $100 per year, and if even one-third of the estimated 30 Million Americans who use marijuana each year were to obtain such a permit, it would pump a Billion dollars into the public pocketbook AND rip the guts out of the criminal drug gangs' cash flow.
The first State to implement a Personal Use and Cultivation Permit could gain a fortune in immediate revenue AND put the drug dealers out of business in their State. It's a win-win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 01/15/2009
- RJC I'm a Fan of RJC 24 fans permalink

Disgusting unamerican bullying by the federal govt. How dare they threaten to withhold funds for a discussion. This is a huge threat to America, and we should be outraged. It doesn't matter what your politics are or where you stand on any issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 01/15/2009
- Bjarni I'm a Fan of Bjarni 13 fans permalink

It's unfortunate how the Federal government bullies local governments with threatening them to stop or reduce funding to those districts.
There is nothing in the Law that permits a Federal Ban on Anything, when they had the Alchohol Prohibition they did that through raising the tax on alchohol so high that noone would pay that amount of money for it and people would be arrested for tax evation not possession of an illegal substance, Atleast the people in congress that banned alchohol understood that they only had power to tax, not to write laws not dictated that they could write laws for in the Constitution.
Drug Legalization should be a state/county level law, not pushed by beurocrats in washington.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 01/15/2009
- ILibertine I'm a Fan of ILibertine 23 fans permalink
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For a culture that advocates pharmaceuticals and where doctors have become the equivalent of drug pushers, refusing to legalize (at least) relatively benign substances continues to be an absurdity. Moreover, the rampant criminality below the border (that can only cross said border with increasing viciousness over time) indicates present policy is self-defeating and politically de-stabilizing. What if this culture begins to spread into southwestern government - as the influence of vast sums of money is apt to do?

There's a lot of tax revenue that can be derived from legalization and it is high time some rational decisions were made in this matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 01/15/2009
- lylo I'm a Fan of lylo 5 fans permalink

I live in rural KY.
I see police helicopters doing searches for a good part of the year.
They are not few in number.
How much does it cost each time one flies?
On a personal note, KY has very few low income health care alternatives, all worthless. I'm frequently in pain because I can't afford to have my wisdom teeth removed.
Maybe if we had universal healthcare, I wouldn't have to consider growing to pay for my surgery.
(Just kidding)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 01/15/2009

Here's a great article on what it costs to keep marijuana prohibition going http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/01/14/state_bill_to_decriminalize_ma

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 01/15/2009

http://culture11.com/article/36438 Now here's an excellent article that explains just what it costs to keep prohibition going.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 01/15/2009
- zest I'm a Fan of zest 20 fans permalink

The US drug war is just a huge industry that costs the taxpayer dearly with very little to show for it. People are going to use drugs, alway have always will, just get it. Lets regulate and tax and give the taxpayer relief. If you are against drugs don't use them. If you are against abortion don't have one. If you are against same sex marriage don't marry within your gender. Quite simple actually.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 01/15/2009
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Well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 01/15/2009
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It comes down to this:

Those who are serious about fighting crime, fighting terrorism, and even fighting drug abuse, are FOR de-criminalizing drug use.

Those who put their own interests about their communities, countries and fellow human beings are AGAINST de-criminalization.

SUPPORT de-criminalization.

VOTE for candidates who advocate de-criminalization.

I don't use drugs. I don't sell drugs. I don't advocate the use drugs. I do understand economics. I do understand what really protects us. And I know who is on the side of human beings, and who is not.

Think about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 01/15/2009
- plymkr I'm a Fan of plymkr 3 fans permalink

Your title was misleading.......DEMS are the ones that put the resolution together and Dems are the ones that voted FOR and AGAINST.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 AM on 01/15/2009

the ONLY reason the gummint wants to keep these laws, all abyssmal FAILURES, is because the "war on drugs" generates an enormous amount of money, funds, & grants , and valuable funds and property thru "drug seizures" carried out by overzealous goons.

who probably toke up a doob when they get off work.

in towns and cities everywhere, the police are drivin around in sweet rides confiscated from "drug dealers".

our prisons are too crowded to keep dangerous thugs behind bars, because of the thousands busted with a little weed.

regoddamndiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 AM on 01/15/2009
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 37 fans permalink
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BINGO, The anti drug laws are a cottage industry for those in law enforcement.

"Rep. Silvestre Reyes, a Democrat who represents El Paso in Congress, lobbied each council member, making it clear that if the resolution calling for a debate passed, El Paso would risk losing money in the upcoming stimulus legislation. Five Texas House representatives made the same threat."

The mob in DC is getting its " protection" money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 AM on 01/15/2009
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It's not a cottage, it's a palace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 01/15/2009
- carrieanna I'm a Fan of carrieanna 3 fans permalink
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Decriminalizing some drugs seems to make a lot of sense right now. How many tax dollars go to fund the prisons? How much does it cost for all of the court dates to prosecute the criminals? Why can't we simply fine people based on the amount of drugs found and be done with it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 01/14/2009

The issue was not as reported, read the proposal. It stated discussion about the POSSIBILITY of legalizing drugs not an invitation to discuss other solutions. It was an attempt to grab the spotlight in hopes of running for higher office. Unless you live in El Paso and SAW the entire council meeting you wouldnt know. The author of the proposal is very transparent about seeking the Congressional office. HE stated HE WASNT interested in the drug issue until 2008, where in the heck has he been, interested now close to election time. He became outraged when he realized he had lost and DEMANDED names, that to me is a veiled threat. The Mayor asked the people not to vote the council out of office over this one issue, that's how angry the public was at the council meeting and they were the majority of the speakers. Other council member hid behind the letters once they realized, reelection in May wasnt looking good.This city is trying to bring industry to the city in order in improve the area and the author of the proposal was more interested in his political ambitions as a pose to the betterment of the city. Had NOTHING to do with free speech or bringing peace to Juarez but that is what you are being led to believe. Get a copy of the council meeting and see it for yourself. Remember Amsterdam!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 01/16/2009
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