Obama Liberal Media Sitdown Follows Conservative Dinner

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The Huffington Post   |  Rachel Weiner   |   January 14, 2009 01:48 PM

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Tuesday night, President-elect Barack Obama sat down with some prominent conservative authors for dinner. Wednesday, Politico's Michael Calderone reports, he's paying a visit to the liberal side of the commentariat:

The group included the Washington Post's E.J. Dionne and Eugene Robinson, the Wall Street Journal's Gerry Seib, National Journal's Ron Brownstein, the New York Times Frank Rich and Maureen Dowd, and MSNBC's Rachel Maddow, among others.


Today's meeting was held at the transition headquarters, and unlike dinner at George Will's house, I'm told there weren't refreshments. But similar to last night's, the discussion was off the record.

The Atlantic's Andrew Sullivan, one of the meeting attendees, shares some thoughts:

Lots of emails from readers asking about the chat with the president-elect this morning. It was totally off the record and I'm a stickler for those rules. I can say, however, the following: it's hard to express the relief I feel that this man will be the president soon. I realize that's what I feel above all else: relief.


I may disagree with him at times, and criticize him at times, but his great gift is showing that he does not expect people to change their convictions in order to find common areas of agreement. That's the challenge he's presenting all of us with, wherever we come from ideologically. The challenge is as real for a Krugman as for a Kristol, for Rick Warren as well as Gene Robinson.

Meanwhile, Johnathan Chait points out that even before the new meeting was announced, liberals weren't upset:

They know that Obama understands far more about policy than any of his right-wing dinner companions, is used to being exposed to opposing ideas, and won't come out of that dinner telling his staff, "Hey, did you know we cut half the capital gains tax and raise more revenue?"
Tuesday night, President-elect Barack Obama sat down with some prominent conservative authors for dinner. Wednesday, Politico's Michael Calderone reports, he's paying a visit to the liberal side of th...
Tuesday night, President-elect Barack Obama sat down with some prominent conservative authors for dinner. Wednesday, Politico's Michael Calderone reports, he's paying a visit to the liberal side of th...
 
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- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

No reason for any of this to be off the record...F­ESS UP, media hacks, on both ends of the political spectrum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 01/15/2009

I agree. Why the secrecy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 01/15/2009

me three....

we had enough of that under Bush&Co.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 01/15/2009
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Jesus Christ ya'll...Ra­chel Maddow! Maddow is not to be taken seriously! Why? Because she herself is not taking herself serious when delivering the news!. She is not only feather-light, she is very very full of herself on MSNBC and she breaks into giggles like as if she is the best out there...sh­e is the most annoying newscaster I've ever seen in my life. And she and Keith Olberman are only good for liberal media. That's who they are. Rachel Maddow is only right for the libs only. She is not right for the rest of America. She is Michelle Malkin of the liberal media. What do you think about that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 01/14/2009
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 256 fans permalink

I think you are what the Brits refer to as a w a n k e r.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 01/14/2009
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that's all you have to say? what do you have to say about Rachel Maddow? I don't hate her, I just think she is soooooo one-sided, a liberal media on the extreme left -- just like Stephanie Miller (radio host) and Keith Olberman. They are one-sided and only doing more damage to the Obama/democrats than doing good to rest of America...­that kind of journalist is not right for this country...­Maddow makes the others like Joy Behar, Bill Maher, and even Jack Cafferty of CNN look like Popes...re­lax...she is just Rachel Maddow...h­er stories and opinions will never be taken seriously because she will never be balanced..­.if you are her fan, good for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 01/14/2009
- Wilson201 I'm a Fan of Wilson201 5 fans permalink
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I think she is very intelligent and scares you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 01/14/2009
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Nope. Michelle Malkin scares me! Sharp, frustrated, angry and hungry. Maddow is a feather-weight journalist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 01/15/2009
- ishok I'm a Fan of ishok 9 fans permalink

I think I just wasted 30 seconds of my life reading your post...and 30 sec more responding to it.

You owe me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 01/14/2009
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Here, let me pay you: here's my 30 second for you -- read it slowly....­Maddow giggles...­she should be more serious and (if possible) be a little more balanced..­.but that is impossible. to you she is great, to others she is wrong for America. her pov is only suitable for liberals on the extreme left...no? I know someone who is a big Michelle Malkin's fan...read Malkin's stuff and watch Maddow on MSNBC! One is extreme left and the other is extreme right -- but hand downs, Malkin is way smarter and sharper and more intelligent and the best investigative reporter out there...Ma­ddow...is trying too hard to please liberals and pleasing them all the way! good for her. good for you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 01/15/2009

LOL!

He owes me too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 AM on 01/15/2009
- billbb I'm a Fan of billbb 49 fans permalink

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly, but your ranting is only because she damaged you ratings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 01/14/2009
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i am sorry you didn't see Maddow as I do...as an Obama fan myself...i watched her again two nights ago, she giggled...­she is not be taken seriously.­..too one-sided.­..even for Obama's own good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 01/15/2009

the only differences between maddow and malkin are that maddow is smart, honest and well spoken. i'd add much better looking but i don't want to appear shallow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 01/15/2009
- RobLuzecky I'm a Fan of RobLuzecky 2 fans permalink

Yeah those Rhodes Scholars with PhD's in Political Science are to never be taken seriously. What on earth are you talking about Ambrose? Your post just shows your own ignorance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 01/15/2009
- Manx I'm a Fan of Manx 19 fans permalink

Is it true that elitist, George Will served Obama his first arugula salad???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 01/14/2009

Having an open mind and finding common ground is what I admire about Obama. He'll give everyone a voice and opportunity to make you case. People who do this are true leaders you may not always agree with their decisions but you know you were heard and your ideas were considered what more can we ask for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 01/14/2009
- billbb I'm a Fan of billbb 49 fans permalink

The combination of intelligence, self-assurance and humility in our president is going to take a little getting used to.

George W. Shrub had all but three of those characteristics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 01/14/2009
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It is so true....he sounds and looks level headed...t­ho the economy needs a bullish Obama. Barack Obama has delivered blunt economic talk lately. If Washington doesn't act, he warns, this recession could "linger for years"; 4 million people could be thrown out of work in 2009; trillion-dollar deficits are likely "for years to come"; America could "lose a generation of potential and promise." Bam! What's happened to "Yes, we can"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 01/14/2009
- Foreground I'm a Fan of Foreground 10 fans permalink

I suppose that "Yes, we can," doesn't mean that we necessarily *will;* Obama's just giving the relatively straight consequences of what will happen if we *don't.*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 01/15/2009

Intellectuals on both the right and left are virtually unanamious in the conviction that the economic policies that have brought us to this despicable position in world affairs is sound policy. The only problem has been the managers and management system. Both political propaganda polls espouse the doctrine of free trade even as it destroys our middle class and way of life. Free trade is more valued than a free democratic society. Otherwise, both groups would not be espousing a trading system that has brought down to poverity the once most powerful country in the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 01/14/2009
- payos I'm a Fan of payos 7 fans permalink

something about a true democratic society doesn't include free trade?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 01/14/2009
- hapiday I'm a Fan of hapiday 101 fans permalink
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Ex-Democrat must be talking about Bush election 2000-2004 elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 01/14/2009
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 325 fans permalink
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Wha?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 01/14/2009
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 208 fans permalink
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Where is Amy Goodman's invite? Lost in the mail?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 01/14/2009
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 325 fans permalink
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They can't invite everyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 01/14/2009

Great Point. Goodman is great.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 01/15/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Amy Goodman is singlehandedly the best progressive news source...f­ar better than Rachel Maddow...s­he delivers the news in a dispassionate, no-nonsense, no-snark and smirk fashion that puts Maddow's childish and sophomoric routine to shame...GO AMY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 01/15/2009
- kylie I'm a Fan of kylie 25 fans permalink

Rachel has put some passion, a genuine, and inquisitive personality into the news.
She is a breath of fresh air compared to some of the "good 'ole boys" political anchors who come off as arrogant, tired, and so very routine.
Rachel and Keith are magic and I appreciate both--they are very savvy and entertaining while factual--every political rock is overtturned and the snakes are exposed!
Love it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 AM on 01/15/2009

KUDOS to Rachel Maddow!!
She is now a true media star!!
She makes MSNBC watchable.­.... she and Keith Olberman are the best of the best.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 01/14/2009
- daniINDY I'm a Fan of daniINDY 2 fans permalink
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I think Rachel is refreshing! Good for her!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 01/14/2009

Agree ! Both are great and most informative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 01/14/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

She is junior league next to Amy Goodman...
Goodman is to Maddow what Edward R Murrow is to some two-bit, small town happy talker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 01/15/2009
- Jonni Rae I'm a Fan of Jonni Rae 19 fans permalink

Rachel's relentless gay agenda is annoying. Also, her gigglling, "Golly that's neat" tendencies. I also hated her interview with Bill Cosby tonite. Showing she can say the tough, hurtful things to the black guy? Easy on Webb, though. I think her popularity has peaked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 01/14/2009
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 60 fans permalink
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Do you get paid for thinking???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 01/14/2009
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 566 fans permalink
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LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 01/14/2009

Well, that proves that you get what you pay for...

(I thought YOU picked up the tab?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 01/14/2009
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 208 fans permalink
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You need to be banished to the pointless forest Oblio.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 01/14/2009
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OMG - right on! I have got to find The Point on CD, soon!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 01/15/2009
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Gay agenda? Reference one time on her show that Maddow or one of her guests asked someone who is not gay to be gay. Wouldn't that be a gay agenda?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 01/14/2009
- Tyrione I'm a Fan of Tyrione 36 fans permalink
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I imagine the OP's concern with a gay agenda is akin to a evangelical agenda whereas the platform of News is being turned into a mouthpiece of subjective journalism slanted to a focus on a personal goal of the broadcaster. In this case, it would be gay rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 01/14/2009
- KarenT I'm a Fan of KarenT 97 fans permalink

Is it possible that you feel Rachel is relentless with her "gay agenda" because you have issues with gay people? I'm not gay but I have never felt that. I think her mix of brilliance and humor is perfect and loved her interview with Cosby. There was absolutely nothing hurtful or tough about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 01/14/2009
- jOke I'm a Fan of jOke 2 fans permalink

well the only reason i disliked her interview with Bill Cosby was because it was too short...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 AM on 01/15/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

I don't think Maddow has a gay agenda, although I think she has a lot of work to do on presenting the news in something other than a very amateur, junior league manner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 01/15/2009
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So, where was Krugman?

Way better than Dowd, And Sullivan?
What has either ever contributed to, like, anyone or anything?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 01/14/2009
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 325 fans permalink
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Krugman is issue specific.
Obama has met with him (6 months ago) and said that he will again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 01/14/2009
- GuyFawkes I'm a Fan of GuyFawkes 28 fans permalink

Dowd is a terrific writer. She won the Pulitzer Prize in 1999. You may not like her sharp elbows, but she's an undeniable talent.

And I've personally liked Sullivean's commentary over the years, esp. his spirited defense of Obama from Christopher Hitchens on the Tim Russert show last summer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 01/15/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Maureen Dowd is the most obnoxious female commentator there is on the left...
Sullivan is and always will be a right winger who tried to turn left...sor­t of like Arianna...

Neither one has true progressive cred, or ever will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 01/15/2009
- cheforacle I'm a Fan of cheforacle 38 fans permalink
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I don't think he considers himself a progressive. i consider myself one but I certainly don't consider it progressive to believe only progressives have good ideas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 01/15/2009

Why would anyone want to have dinner with Maureen Dowd?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 01/14/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Intimidated?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 01/14/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Hardly...h­er humor is suitable for semi-literates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 01/15/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Another of the Times' World's Ugliest People.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 01/15/2009
- cjk002 I'm a Fan of cjk002 33 fans permalink
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Appetite control.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 01/14/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Dowd's appraisal of President Clinton and his feminist supporters during the Lewinsky scandal led to her being criticized by some liberals, and more recently her strong criticism of President Bush and the war in Iraq have prompted conservatives to criticize her.[citat­ion needed]

Shortly after she won her Pulitzer, a New York Press article analyzed Dowd's columns and concluded that Dowd appears to do little reporting and tends to "dumb down" her subject matter by viewing it through the lens of pop culture.[1­5] A 2002 Weekly Standard article explored Dowd's alleged narcissism and tendency to reduce "political phenomena ... to caricatures of the personalities involved."

In 2003, Dowd was accused by Spinsanity.com[16] and James Taranto of inserting ellipses to change a quotation's intended meaning.[1­7]

Her work was recently satirized by Justin E. H. Smith in an article for 3 Quarks Daily.

She has repeatedly been criticized by Bob Somerby of The Daily Howler for trivializing and making baseless accusations about Democratic politicians. For example, on January 31, 2007, the Howler criticized her for trivializing the campaigns of female politicians, and in particular that of Hillary Clinton.[1­8]

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 01/15/2009

Andrew SUllivan and Maureen Dowd are considered liberal? Huh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 01/14/2009
- lizr I'm a Fan of lizr 245 fans permalink
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cause AS is gay. he gets a pass into the lib camp. not really but..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 01/14/2009
- SiberianRat I'm a Fan of SiberianRat 137 fans permalink
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He doesn't get a pass in my book--I find most of his views objectionable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 01/14/2009
- Darsan54 I'm a Fan of Darsan54 6 fans permalink

Naw. Just neo-Con lite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 01/14/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Sullivan swings both ways, so's to speak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 01/14/2009
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Equal Opportunity sounds pretty liberal to me. :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 01/14/2009

He should be kissing these talking heads asses..Tha­nk you, thank you for doing absolutely no vetting of a community organizer who promises change....­..he owes them big time..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 01/14/2009
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Must be time for your annual wind-up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 01/14/2009

Um, or community organizer/former president of the harvard law review/con­stitutiona­l law professor/illinois state senator/u.­s. senator...

you conveniently left out a few of his other credentials, eh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 01/14/2009
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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I just love to read your pain.

I just think it is hilarious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 01/14/2009
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 566 fans permalink
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Are you and orangepetal related? Are we witnessing a genetic breakdown?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 01/14/2009
- cjk002 I'm a Fan of cjk002 33 fans permalink
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Aww, are you still upset that Obama out-organized Hillary and McCain?

How sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 01/14/2009

Ha, throw the Christian's to the lions. He tried playing the part of a moderate. The true colors are starting to show. Pardon if I barf. Change I will not believe in.

I guess there is no light in the dark.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 01/14/2009
- DACC I'm a Fan of DACC 185 fans permalink
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Just so you clean up after yourself.

Your fellow rethugs have left us a big enough mess to deal with

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 01/14/2009
- Irish55 I'm a Fan of Irish55 16 fans permalink

Wow. So because he met with both conservative and liberal pundits ''true colors are starting to show"? What does that even mean?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 01/14/2009
- tavote08 I'm a Fan of tavote08 11 fans permalink

To spite what they said about him he really is red, white, and blue. The Pres. of all the people...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 01/14/2009
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What are you talking about?

Do you even know?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 01/14/2009
- lotuslike I'm a Fan of lotuslike 8 fans permalink

you're still quite confused..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 01/14/2009
- MIMom I'm a Fan of MIMom 109 fans permalink
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WTF is your problem? You are not making any sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 01/14/2009
- DACC I'm a Fan of DACC 185 fans permalink
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ever have the urge to simply ground some of these bloggers from computer use for a week or more?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 01/14/2009
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 566 fans permalink
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They seldom do make any sense. Since Obama announced his bid for the presidency, their assaults on him have essentially been gibberish. I doubt if orangepetal even knows herself what her comments mean. All she knows is that they denote something "bad" about Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 01/14/2009
- Sabreen60 I'm a Fan of Sabreen60 60 fans permalink
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Do not expect intelligent discourse from those who tr0// in cyberspace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 01/14/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 267 fans permalink

And yet, Obama isn't president for 6 days....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 01/14/2009
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