Obama Would Spend Bailout Funds On Housing Crisis

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JIM KUHNHENN | January 14, 2009 09:32 PM EST | AP

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President-elect Barack Obama speaks to reporters during his meeting with Mexico's President Felipe Calderon, not pictured, in Washington, Monday, Jan. 12, 2009. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama would spend the remaining $350 billion of a financial bailout fund on expanded lending and reduced foreclosures and would not use the money to help other industries, lawmakers said Wednesday after discussions with Obama emissaries.

The Senate was set to vote Thursday on whether to release the money. Lawmakers insisted that Obama advisers put their assurances in writing before the vote.

Seeking to secure votes from wary members of both parties, Obama aides fanned out across the Capitol on Wednesday. Their lobbying effort culminated in a closed door meeting between Senate Republicans and top Obama economic adviser Larry Summers and incoming White House chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel.

The private guarantees went further than what Obama's team has been willing to discuss publicly about his plans for the second half of the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program.

Obama has asked Congress for the money and has been trying to overcome misgivings from lawmakers over how the Bush administration spent the first half of the fund.

Democrats were growing increasingly optimistic that the Senate would agree to release the money to the new administration. And even reluctant Republicans praised Obama's outreach.

"These folks have much more credibility already than Secretary Paulson," Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., said, referring to the Bush administration's treasury secretary, Henry Paulson.

Still, Republicans demanded that the incoming Obama administration put in writing details of the conditions and goals for the money.

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"There is a real concern that it's one thing to say it in the privacy of that room; it's another thing entirely to put something on the record," said Sen. John Thune, R-S.D.

While the criticism of the Bush administration's handling of the bailout has been bipartisan, Republicans were especially opposed to using the bailout funds to help out nonfinancial sector industries. Money from the fund has been used to assist insurance giant American International Group Inc. and automakers General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said Summers and Rahm "did not represent they are in favor of industrial policy."

"We'd like to see something publicly stated with reference to that issue," he added.

In the House, Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., said Summers assured him that Obama would commit a significant portion of the bailout money to foreclosure relief.

The House on Thursday was scheduled to vote on Frank legislation that would place broad restrictions on the bailout program. One major provision would require that the new administration spend between $40 billion and $100 billion on reducing the number of foreclosures.

"I believe they would have done this anyway," Frank said after speaking to Summers on Wednesday.

Obama's transition office would not comment on discussions held with members of Congress.

The House bill has little chance of passing the Senate.

Summers this week submitted a three-page letter to congressional leaders as part of Obama's request for the money that outlined the Obama economic team's goals. But several Republicans and Democrats said the letter was not specific enough and said they needed more information from the president-elect.

Congress built in a safeguard by requiring that after the first $350 billion of the bailout fund was spent, Congress could reject spending the second half. Obama has said he needs the additional money to help extend loans to small businesses, consumers, homeowners and local governments.

Lawmakers from both parties have complained that the Bush administration did not spend the money as it initially intended.

Paulson told legislators last year that the money would be used to buy toxic assets held by the banks in hopes that would help them make more loans. But the Treasury soon changed course and used the money to make direct infusions of capital into financial institutions with few strings attached. Lawmakers complained that the money has not appeared to loosen credit.

"It is critical we provide a real road map on how this funding will be spent," said Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass.

Republicans argued that Frank's bill was a futile effort.

"That we would just go ahead with the bill that everyone acknowledges is not going to become law as cover for us to then release the $350 billion is just plain wrong," said Rep. David Dreier, R-Calif.

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Watching Obama's Video call to service brought tears to my eyes and a lump in my throat. At last, at last...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 AM on 01/15/2009
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 32 fans permalink
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Get a hold of yourself. Get real.
Every political candidate runs on a platform of giving stuff to the people....­.More jobs, better health care, energy independence, ending a war. The minute they win the election the rhetoric changes. More sacrifice, ask not what the government can do you you, ask what you can do for your government. Lower your heat, drive slower, turn in your terrorist neighbor, public service ( work for free ).
They have been doing this for hundreds of years. Where have you been? First election ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 AM on 01/15/2009
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hahahahaha . . . so true

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 AM on 01/15/2009
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 32 fans permalink
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The money was not earmarked to help the economy. It was earmarked to keep the financial industry functioning. The financial system is a major party of the government. Its not like manufacturing or other industries. The US government needs an American financial system to exist. It can't be out sourced. The Federal Reserve always supplies cash to the banking system. Thats its function, This time it needed much more cash than it was authorized to distribute.
The money should not have been used to buy toxic assets from banks as was first proposed. Bad Idea. There was no way to price the assets. There was no guarantee that the investments would pay off.
Lending money to the banks and getting security in return was a safer bet for the American taxpayer.
It accomplished the same thing as buying the assets but didn't carry the risk that the 1st proposal did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 AM on 01/15/2009
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 316 fans permalink
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Okay - we have heard you.

Now go back to your desk at Citigroup, please - as long as it is there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 AM on 01/15/2009
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 32 fans permalink
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Actually I work for another bank and loan business has picked up a lot. I was told yesterday to get ready for much more work. I may have to hire people if what they say is true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 AM on 01/15/2009
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as much as it irritates you to hear, Peter007 is actually right about that.

Except I would have much preferred the money be used to subsizide distressed homeowners to get them current on mortgages and renegotiate mortgage terms. THat way people could stay in their homes, the banks would get paid, and the mortgage backed securities would remain "secure." But this massive bailout has never been about helping actual people - just Wall Street.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 01/15/2009
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

It is good Obama wants to address the Housing Crisis. The sad sad fact is that the greedy banks do whatever they want with the money and are not accountable to anyone. It just disappears. And Tim (oops-I-fo­rgot-to-pa­y-my-taxes­) Graitner is a loyal fox guarding the hen house. The Wall Street meltdown happend on his watch at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which has oversight responsibility, and he was Paulson partner in design of the initial bailout debale.

The greedy Wall Street bankers have the hand in the Federal Treasury and there is not end to this.

Bank of America is back for more bailout because of its acquistion of collapsing Myrill Lynch whose CEO John Thain (yet another Goldman Sacs alumnus along with Paulson and Rubin wink wink, nod nod) is demanding a $10 million bonus for a few months work brokering the deal with Bank of America. What? What exactly was accomplished in this shell game, except more money for greedy Wall Street at the expense of the hard working, strugglling, average American taxpayer.

Unfortunately, it looks like more of the same from Obama. The greedy Wall Street runs our economy, privatizing profits and socializing its ponzi scheme losses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 AM on 01/15/2009
- stell I'm a Fan of stell 20 fans permalink

I want change as much as the next guy, but at some point either your eyes are deceiving you or you are witnessing something very suspect. What more does it take to see what is happening here? Geithner, Richardson, Clinton, Holder, and on and on and on. Mr. Obama appears to be the edifice or the black face of the refinement of the status quo. Now, he isn't in office yet, but how much longer are you going to be able to say that, 4 days? Cheap symbolism WILL NOT, get it done. Now, I'm happy for Obama and all, but the status quo, or conservative Democratism, isn't sufficient for the times. Either "change", adapt or BE changed. Actions speak louder than words, and right now Obama's actions are saying a hell of a lot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 01/15/2009

If I go to buy a home, I have to fill out 50 pages of paperwork. I would think they could at least put everything in writing for 350 billion. Is it too much to ask for congress to do their jobs? It was last time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 AM on 01/15/2009
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Paulson should have been fired, not given the money to begin with. Most of that money hasn't done a thing to improve the economy or stablize the banking industry, or am I missing something? Since the free money was given away, the stocks plummeted, economies of other countries crashed, and big banks bought out other banks, resulting in mergers we've never seen before. Plus the tax laws were rewritten in their favor. If anything, I would have preferred the big investment banks go under, and the real brick and mortar banks which lend money to taxpayers for housing, car and small business loans stay solvent.

The original bill was written with options for this housing assistance that Obama is talking about, so that is nothing new. Paulson just chose not to do it, that's all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 AM on 01/15/2009
- SparkyDash I'm a Fan of SparkyDash 44 fans permalink
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Paulson gives me a very, verrrrrry bad feeling.

I do like hearing the word "accountability" and as an American, I insist on the action.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 AM on 01/15/2009
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

Former Goldman Sachs CEOs Paulson and Rubin designed and impelemented this bailout scheme to offset the gambling loses of their cronies on Wall Street. They are handing the tax payer the bill, while the greedy bankers hold on to billions in ill-gotten salaries, profits and BONUSES/

What is the difference between what Paulson and Rubin are doing and what Madoff did? The only difference is Paulson and Rubin are doing it with TRILLIONS and the U.S. Treasury.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 AM on 01/15/2009
- numbnuts I'm a Fan of numbnuts 10 fans permalink
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When GW was in power congress acted like a bunch of whipped puppies.
Now that the PE. is starting they suddenly have back bones.
Why is that?
Did GW have something on all the leaders of the house and senate?
Don't get me wrong separation of the 3 powers is a good thing.
I believe that PE. Obama will be a consensus builder and make it work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 AM on 01/15/2009
- applehead I'm a Fan of applehead 14 fans permalink
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i know this is an insane question --- but the real tragedy is that it's NOT an insane question but that it might as well be: 300 billion dollars. 300 million americans. why can't they just give us a billion dollars each?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 AM on 01/15/2009
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 166 fans permalink
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BEST POST EVER IN ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY. That makes more sense than anything I have ever heard any economist come up with so far. Excellent post. And you know, that would be just the stimulus package that we'd need to kickstart the economy back in action.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 AM on 01/15/2009
- applehead I'm a Fan of applehead 14 fans permalink
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you're too kind. bless your heart. (and if we all DID have a billion dollars, nobody would have to work. we could all hire aliens to do our jobs and our chores for us.) (but, alas, a mere thousand bux won't even get me the wall-sized tv screen i want.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 01/16/2009

Because your math is way off. $300 Billion divided by 300 million Americans would be $1000 each.... not 1 Billion...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 AM on 01/15/2009
- applehead I'm a Fan of applehead 14 fans permalink
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good point. i'm an idiot. i knew it seemed too good to be true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 01/16/2009

>300 billion dollars. 300 million americans. why can't they just give us a billion dollars each?

We'd only get a billion each if there were only 300 of us!!! 300 billion divided among us would be $1000 each.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 AM on 01/15/2009
- applehead I'm a Fan of applehead 14 fans permalink
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i see the error of my ways. thank you for hipping me to that .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 01/16/2009

nice thought
but your math is way off pal,we will get 1000 each
for the love of God you need to calm down

much love anyway

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 AM on 01/15/2009
- applehead I'm a Fan of applehead 14 fans permalink
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thank you. i'm calm now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 01/16/2009
- aOsO I'm a Fan of aOsO 44 fans permalink
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Your math is off and what you described is a socialist state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 AM on 01/15/2009
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 166 fans permalink
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What's wrong with a socialist state? Nobody has ever tried it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 01/15/2009
- applehead I'm a Fan of applehead 14 fans permalink
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thanks. my math was way off. i don't know WHAT i was thinkin. last nght i gave my dog cat food. too much sixties, man. peace out, gee dawg.

your benevolent uncle applehead

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 01/16/2009
- carnelld I'm a Fan of carnelld 10 fans permalink

Originally, the funds were to be used to buy "toxic assets from the banks(bad mortgages). Paulson changed everything and basically gave the funds to the banks "with no strings attached". Obama wants to get the second 350 billion as Bush got the first 350 billion , with no strings attached. Obama will be left with TARP . Congress, who by the way , now wants to have some say so about how the money is spent (read above section regarding Barney Frank's bill. To get the money, you straddle the two administrations, during the inauguration frenzy, with no strings attached . Even if congress voted not to release the funds the President would veto their attempt. The Congress would never be able to get the two-thirds votes to over ride the veto. The funds will be released after Obama takes office. Obama will receive the 350 billion with no strings attached. The TARP plan will be "tweaked", but the Obama administration will be able to use the funds with "no strings attached" . If the funds are used to buy "toxic assets"(bad mortgages) the money still goes to the banks. Families will be helped to avod forclosures. By the way, this situation was probably agreed upon before the election. Bush got 1/2, Obama gets 1/2. Remember, Obama supported the bill during the election. The Republican­s(Southern­ers) main concern is to kill the U S auto industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 AM on 01/15/2009
- numbnuts I'm a Fan of numbnuts 10 fans permalink
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The repub. (southerns) are the good old boys with there moto.
What's in it for me. Screw the rest of the American people

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 AM on 01/15/2009

The Republican goal is to lower American workers wages overall. By the way, nice post. I'm glad there are others that see that the story has changed completely. It was supposed to be to buy toxic assets and Paulson said they couldn't operate unless we did that. Then as soon as he got the money, they bought stock instead, which means the banks can use the money for any purpose they want, including CEO bonuses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 AM on 01/15/2009
- Peter007 I'm a Fan of Peter007 32 fans permalink
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Stop being so petty. The money was better spent buying preferred stock and given out in loans. It was much safer for the American taxpayer. If you want to buy those toxic assets they are for sale. Go to your local bank and buy some if you think they are safe.
Regarding bonuses. The Government wants to keep some banks in business. The government now has stake in keeping those banks profitable and solvent. A big stake. To risk a 40 billion dollar investment over a few million dollars in bonuses is silly.
It's like you bought a major league baseball team that finished in last place and now you are going to cut all the player salaries down to $100,000. How well do you think you will do this next season? How many people will show up at the park and pay admission?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 AM on 01/15/2009

Please go to this website and read. Native Alaskans need help!

http://www.themudflats.net/2009/01/14/hope-coming-to-emmonak-and-beyond/#comments

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 AM on 01/15/2009
- filo I'm a Fan of filo 71 fans permalink
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I thought St.Sarah was giving them oil money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 AM on 01/15/2009

Obama voted for the current giveaway that handed over nearly $1 trillion to those who caused the collapse with no transparency, no accountability and no reregulation. Now the second half of the money is up. Either Obama will recognize the error of his first vote and demand the second half, and any more appropriated, include clear provisions for transparency, accountability and deep and clear regulation, including criminal provisions for anyone who breaks the regulations or does anything to avoid transparency and/or accountability or he doesn't. If he fixes the problem and mandates reregulation, transparency and accountability, we might get out of this OK in the end. If he does what he did the first time -- and just hands the new government funded chicken coop over to the foxes -- then he's just another crook trying to enrich himself immensely at the expense of the taxpayers. It's really that simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 AM on 01/15/2009
- naeldwyck I'm a Fan of naeldwyck 20 fans permalink
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Followed you until about halfway, but then you lost me: where's your evidence suggesting Obama is trying to enrich himself? There may be less conspiracy and more incompetence than you think in all of this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 AM on 01/15/2009

Voodoo economics (named by Republicans supporting HW Bush) has several principles -- deregulation, privatization, unbridled free trade, low taxes for the wealthy, reduced spending for social programs. When it was introduced, all mainstream economists predicted it would lead to the collapse of the economy. Voodoo economics was also called Reaganomics.

DLC types realized they could personally enrich themselves massively from those principles and adopted them as Clintonomics, Rubinomics, neo-liberal economics, etc. There were some variations, but they all embraced those priniciples set forth above.

So when the chickens came home to roost and the economy finally collapsed primarily because of unbridled free trade and deregulation eliminating the restrictions that limited pyramidding (Ponzi) schemes) just as everyone knew it would, the Democrats in Congress knew it would happen and why. They were not incompetent, they were participants.

Under those circumstances, Obama and the other Dems who voted for the giveaway KNEW they weren't including reregulation, accountability and transparency into the trillion dollar giveaway. This is not rocket science economics. It just requires a little sophistication, which Obama has.

If he fixes it for the second half of the near trillion, OK. If not, it's not by accident. Criminal provisions should be included for failure to follow regulations and for lack of accountability and/or transparency. The proof is not the smoking gun. It's 1 + 1 = 2.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 01/15/2009
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 166 fans permalink
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While all of these overstuff toadies argue over how fast and how much to bail out all of the billionaires, who is looking out for the little guys? Hey guys, hey Mr. Obama, hey, we're down here! You know, we're American citizens too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 AM on 01/15/2009
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Horton Hears A Who?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 AM on 01/15/2009
- anticon I'm a Fan of anticon 8 fans permalink

Going to be hard for many who believed Obama was the one to come to grips with facts that reveal he is just another politician.

Promise the moon while campaigning then hand out the goodies to the elite and well connected once you get your paws on the levers of power.

The more things change the more they remain the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 AM on 01/15/2009

more for the rich on the backs of the poor. let the banks fail with this kind of money we could open new banks with proper rules. this country needs a little socialism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 AM on 01/15/2009
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THE MORTGAGE BANKERS ASSOCIATION HAS BLOCKED WRITE-DOWNS OF PRINCIPALS AND HAS FOUGHT REFORM AND REGULATIONS!

Mortgage Banks are at the HEART of this Crisis! We need ways to BYPASS these corrupt middle-men!

The traditional part of mortgage banking is to get their funds from government at low rates and then price gouge their customers to make massive FEES.

TAXPAYER money has been used to MERGE Banks into MEGA BANKS failing like they have on so many other FRONTS! Reducing competition was their goal, BUT:

With Technology Government can fight reduction in competition by offering the following:

Internet Central Bank, ICB
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1. Include Fannie/Freddie in the ICB
2. Include the FED in the ICB
3. Use Internet, Databases, and automation software to provide direct Banking Services
4. AVOID USURY - the interest above the lawful rate or unreasonably high rates Banks now charge.
5. ICB competes with Banks removing corrupt Middle-Man Layer who charges High RATES and FEES!

Provide Internet Automated Fixed Rate Loans at FED Rate +2.5% or 2.5%, to all Homeowners with Low FEES. 98% of loan processing done with automation and 2% for final Manual Verifications.

Offer ATMs, Credit Cards, and Auto Loans all without "TRICKS" or TRAPS" and low rates.

Fund this and stimulate the Economy more than other options!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 AM on 01/15/2009
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 358 fans permalink
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It would take months to write reliable software for that. How about starting out with just restoring sensible regulation. The internet will be a great thing to build with, but it will take time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 01/15/2009
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This has been done many times already and the "WHEEL" would not have to be reinvented as packaged software exists!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 AM on 01/15/2009
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I should have purchased a home back in 2006 when I knew I couldn't afford it. There were soooo many people doing it I should have known that my government would reward me for my inability to repay the loan.

"Community Re-Investment Act" run amuck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 AM on 01/15/2009

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 AM on 01/15/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 325 fans permalink
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the easily swayed with feel good platitudes like Ernestine.­..

hope! change!

hopey changey! yay! free hea-lthcare for all! help the poor by making them depe-ndent on gover-nment han-douts yaaaayy!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 AM on 01/15/2009
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get ready for the prog-ressive backlash..­.

DLB, these people have been told that it was gree-dy men on wall street which caused this meltdown..­. not gover-nment policy.

We're living in a pure Atlas Shrugged moment... where gover-nment inte-rvention caused a crisis... and the defenders of gover-nment are blaming cap-italism for all the problems.

When will these easily swayed people learn?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 AM on 01/15/2009
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Oh an Ayn Randite speaks... all conservatives kindly set your brain to half mast and just nod.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 AM on 01/15/2009

Ayn Rand was a plagarist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 01/15/2009
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 358 fans permalink
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No wonder you fudged the spelling for philosophy. Ayn Rand, for chrissakes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 01/15/2009
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The CRA didn't cause this mess. Long after the CRA and any changes Carter or Clinton could have made, mortgage defaults remained low. In 2000? Defaults were at 1%. 2001? 1%. 2002, 03, 04, 05, 06? 1%.

The CRA isn't about lowering lending standards. It simply ensured that the same standards are applied equally to equally qualified borrowers. It says that a bank giving specific loan terms to a white male with x income and assets must give the same terms to a minority with the same income and assets. It stopped discriminatory practices. That's all.

Absurdly lowering the lending standards was--OMG WTF LOL--a Republican idea. See:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqQx7sjoS8

Here are the facts about the history of the financial disaster:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/16/1002/9542/629/660423
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/21/9322/74248/245/602838

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 AM on 01/15/2009
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 325 fans permalink
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cut n paste activism..­.

omg.. history of the financial disaster from dailykos?!? yaa, there's an unbiased view for ya!

Kiba... at least use something more reputable for your rebuttal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 AM on 01/15/2009
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Night all

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 AM on 01/15/2009
- buckygreen I'm a Fan of buckygreen 80 fans permalink

Night rump. Dont forget to e s a d.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 AM on 01/15/2009
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good night you old fa rt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 AM on 01/15/2009
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Dear Mr. President-elect - do the right thing - help Americans whose lives have been shredded by Former President Boosh's reckless administration. Keep folks in their primary houses; save America's neighborhoods.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 01/15/2009
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