Poll: New Yorkers Now Prefer Cuomo To Kennedy

ALBANY, N.Y. — A new poll shows New Yorkers now prefer Attorney General Andrew Cuomo over Caroline Kennedy for the U.S. Senate seat expected to be vacated by Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The Quinnipiac University poll finds New York voters prefer Cuomo 31 percent to 24 percent over Kennedy, the daughter of President John F. Kennedy.

Kennedy has been an early favorite among voters.

But none of the hopefuls for the appointment by Gov. David Paterson have managed to win a majority of support in the polls.

The poll consisted of calls to 1,664 registered voters from Jan. 8 to Monday and has a margin of error of just more than 2 percentage points.

Comments

[harriscrl3]

These polls dont mean DIDDLY. Let me know when they start raking Cuomo over the coals like they did Caroline Kennedy then we will do a real poll and see who stand up to scrutiny.

THese polls must think that we are not bright.

So glad Barack Obama made his choice known through and advisor and said he wants Caroline Kennedy. I guess he decided not to stay out of it afterall. If Patterson picks Cuomo his career is over. They rake the woman through the coals and then think that they are going to pick Cuomo it would be death blow because something will pop out about Cuomo that they didnt know cause they didnt put him under scrutinty and so republican will get the seat by running a moderate. With Caroline Kennedy she has been raked over the coals. You want to talk about gender bias in the media THIS IS IT.

Carol

[meko]

How do we know this unnamed source speaks for Obama?

The other contenders for the job have public records. Caroline Kennedy does not. She was under no less scrutiny than she would be in a general election. If she can't withstand this for 2 months, she won't be able to make it through 2 years of campaigning to hold the seat.

Many of the people who are most opposed to Kennedy believe that either of the 2 Congresswomen who are up for the post would do a better job. I don't see how that's sexist.

Perhaps everyone is just biased toward those who've demonstrated their abilities through their achievements. Mean, mean, meritocracy.

[glorialovelace]

Yet ANOTHER poll finds Caroline Kennedy losing ground

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/15/caroline-kennedy-losing-ground-in-another-ny-poll/

Advantage: Cuomo. The Marist poll shows a 16-point spread between Cuomo and Kennedy.

[MagisterLudi]

The question is not the polls. The question is who will pay Paterson more in money and political capital.
That little backroom favors Carolyne is now going around dropping hints that Obama will campaign for Paterson him if he plays ball.
Along with that shameless letter she wrote to Obama telling him she'd be perfect for the post and hinting at the favors she imparted to him.

[meko]

I think you mean Caroline. What letter?

[MagisterLudi]

Darlings. Don't worry Kennedy just agreed to take Nobel Prize in Literature as a substitute.

[MagisterLudi]

Hope Paterson has the brains to listen to vox populi , ignore Kennedy's PR machine and elect a REAL working class Democrat. We SORELY need one.

[yesivoteddem]

. Her lack of qualifications, her absence of professional achievement or political participation, do not matter an iota to her sponsors. They would support Bucephalus or Incitatus if it served their purpose. Robert F. Kennedy (elected in 1964), Pat Moynihan (1976) and Hillary Clinton (2000), all of whom graced that Senate seat, were remarkable people who served with distinction. Before they were elected, however, they had records of achievement that made their candidacies not only plausible but highly regarded.

[glorialovelace]

Those would be "yellow horse" Democrats, right?

[engineer68]

What did Pat Moynihan ever do? We never saw him in western NY.

[1murillo]

Silly article. This is Paterson's appointment to make, of course he'll take popularity into account, but polls are only (depending on methodology) relevant for elections.

[glorialovelace]

Elections are also "popularity contests." I hope Governor Paterson does not lose sight of that important fact.

[meko]

If being more popular and more accomplished doesn't make someone a better candidate than Kennedy, what would?

[harrymellon]

No Cuomos and no Kennedys and no Clintons and no Bushes. We need real people who aren't afraid to challenge the status quo. Make there ideas and words capture our attention....not their names. Who else is sick of this sham???

[myrddin]

Here's a one person poll from a New Yorker.

Congressman Brian Higgins

[meko]

A big down side of Kennedy's politicking for the seat is that discussion of legitimate alternatives to Cuomo has been put aside for the sake of mythmaking and celebrity gossip. All of the congressional reps (including Higgins) and the local office holders should have received greater attention.

Hopefully Paterson is being more thorough than the press (and HuffPo).

[hamchunk]

Newer Poll: New poll results show many New Yorkers prefer a bowl of Jello to Caroline Kennedy.

[meko]

There's always room for Jello.

[nibblybits]

Andrew Cuomo: The man who accused our President-Elect of "shuck and jive."

[glorialovelace]

Too bad. If Cuomo is appointed, you can vote against him in 2010.

[nibblybits]

I will be voting against him in 2010...when he runs for atty general again or tries to oust Paterson for not picking him for Senator.

Everyone else, even the no-names, are higher up than Cuomo. Nobody likes the guy, not Obama, not Schumer, not Paterson.

Don't cry too hard into your pillow, troll.

[yesivoteddem]

bullsh^t!

this kind of deceitful crap is the reason I will never forgive tram Obama for the lies and distortions of their campaign.

first, in the interview when Cuomo said this -he wasnt even discussing Obama. They were discussing the Gore 2000 and Kerry 2004 campaigns in small-state primaries.

The AG was not referring to Barack Obama when he used the phrase "shuck and jive," but to what politicians in general do with the media. Cuomo's point was when candidates meet a substantial proportion of primary voters or caucus goers in person, such as in NH or Iowa, there is a certain genuineness that can be avoided in a big-state media-heavy campaign.

Cuomo did not utter the remark in reference to Obama (or even to the Clinton-Obama contest).

But team Obama pushes this as racist and nationwide "race baiting" furor ensues.

A transcript of the radio program, Andrew Cuomo was answering a question about the Iowa and NH races in general.

The host of the program said it was so far removed from a discussion of any one candidate, he didn't see how it could be construed to be about Obama.

[nibblybits]

You know, you posting everything twice doesn't really make it more true.

[dct1999]

Cuomo was discussing Obama, and he chose his words deliberately. He race-baited, so lots of other Clinton supporters.

[yesivoteddem]

bullsh^t!

this kind of deceitful cra p is the reason I will never forgive tram Obama for the lie s and
dist ortions of their campaign.

first, in the interview when Cuomo said this -he wasnt even discussing Obama. They were discussing the Gore 2000 and Kerry 2004 campaigns in small-state primaries.

The AG was not referring to Barack Obama when he used the phrase "shu ck and jiv e," but to what politicians in general do with the media. Cuomo's point was when candidates meet a substantial proportion of primary voters or caucus goers in person, such as in NH or Iowa, there is a certain genuineness that can be avoided in a big-state media-heavy campaign.

Cuomo did not utter the remark in reference to Obama (or even to the Clinton-Obama contest).

But team Obama pushes this as raci st and nationwide "rac e baiting" furor ensues.

A transcript of the radio program, Andrew Cuomo was answering a question about the Iowa and NH races in general.

The host of the program said it was so far removed from a discussion of any one candidate, he didn't see how it could be construed to be about Obama.

[yesivoteddem]

the longer version of what Cuomo said:

You know I've spent a lot of time in other races, especially in Iowa and in New Hampshire, back with Gore and back with Clinton.

Those races require you to do something no other race does, you know, and I like it, and I agree with you, it's a good thing.

It's not a TV-crazed race, you know, you can't just buy your way through that race [FD: Airport press conference and the media markets.....], it doesn't work that way, it's frankly a more demanding process.

You have to get on a bus, you have to go into a diner, you have to shake hands, you have to sit down with ten people in a living room. You can't shuck and jive at a press conference, you can't just put off reporters, because you have real people looking at you saying answer the question, you know, and all those moves you can make with the press don't work when you're in someone's living room.

And I think it's good for the candidates, I think it makes the candidates communicate in a way that works with real people because you know in a living room right away whether or not you're communicating, and I think the questions are good and I think the scrutiny is good, so you can, you can say they're small states and they get a lot of attention -- they are very good for the process, I believe that.

[nibblybits]

As presented here on the HuffPost:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/10/hillary-supporter-cuomo-_n_80914.html

[nibblybits]

Tim Dickinson's take:

http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/index.php/2008/01/16/the-great-shuck-and-jive-debate-of-08-andrew-cuomos-staff-responds/

[dct1999]

Obama's campaign team didn't "push" this. Obama is not asking for your forgiveness, and neither is anyone else. The Clinton team messed up, they engaged in racially divisive tactics and that is one of the major reasons for Hillary's loss.

The Clinton's racial injuries were self-inflicted.

[yesivoteddem]

how about John Lewis - would he lie about this?
on PBS's News Hour, civil rights icon, MLK friend and Congressman, John Lewis said:"I must tell you...I'm trying to set the record straight...the Obama camp is doing something else, theyr'e sending out memos to the media trying to suggest that the Clintons are playing the race card."

Rep. Lewis forcefully condemned both Obama and his campaign for sending out the 5 pointed attacks on the Clintons and their supporters which implied they were "racists" or using "rac ist code" Rep. Lewis also spoke about how obama himself was being wholly misleading as regards to Hillary and her comment about LBJ and MLK .

"It is unfortunate that people have tried to distort what Mrs. Clinton had to say about Dr. King," "I think there has been a deliberate and systematic attempt by some people in the Obama campaign to really fan the flames about race and to really distort what Senator Clinton said. I understood and I think most right thinking people understood what she said.

"President and Senator Clinton have a record, a history, a very long history of bringing people together. No right thinking American would ever think that Senator or President Clinton would ever do anything that would use the race card"

[jeffp26]

No one called me. I prefer Caroline.

And I wish Cuomo would move to jersey, where he belongs.

[glorialovelace]

They called your mother. She voted for Caroline.

[engineer68]

Cuomo knows more about New Jersey than CKS knows about New York, and he is well traveled within NY. CKS has never been in upstate, except for a short drive-by, and at no time did she know where she was. It was a good thing that her driver could read a NYS map.

[yesivoteddem]

This is from a columnist commenting on Caroline explaining what she knows about upstate NY.

From the Buffalo News:

http://blogs.buffalonews.com/outrages_insights/2008/12/our-us-senators.html

December 30, 2008

"Tom Precious's interview with Caroline Kennedy included this doozy, when the Park Avenue Princess was asked about upstate New York:

"I do remember going with my Uncle Bobby (Kennedy) and I have friends who live not far north of the city, not far upstate. My daughter went to camp in the Adirondacks. So, it"s more vacationing. And I have, of course, friends who have moved from upstate down to the city."

Oh, well, I guess it could have been worse. I mean, she could have said, "I have friends who are upstaters," or "I would have no problem if my son or daughter married an upstater."

About the most curious reason I've heard from people who support Kennedy's appointment to the Senate is "at least she's not a professional politician." I understand the sentiment on one hand, given the state of our state.

But, look, it's not a bad thing to be up to speed on the issues, or to have knowledge of the state beyond the Manhattan skyline, or to know more about what it takes to pass a bill than what's taught in a high school civics class."

[yesivoteddem]

another class based insult from a royalist wannabee.

the last dead ender defenders of Princess Caroline.

[hapaglloyd]

Kennedy for Senate ,clean ,well educated,charitable--she raised millions for education in an unpaid position-- she does not belong to the clubhouse-deal-making politics of New York. She is very wealthy and cannot be influenced by lobbyist. She is well qualified,a trained lawyer she will learn quickly. I bet she does not have any skeletons in her closet,she is clean,clean,clean. Cuomo,yes I know about his work on homeless issues,but he is a career politician. I have followed his career and he is always running for some office. When he was at HUD under Bill Clinton,he did not make much of a dent,he was more an administrator. Donna Shalala made a dent, Robert Reich made a dent,Cuomo, I cant think of anything he did at HUD.

[meko]

I'm tired of the assumption that people who inherit vast wealth are incorruptible and the rest of us are all thieves. If the past 8 years has taught us anything, it should have taught us that wealthy people can cheat too. He's been through several elections and any corrupt dealings would have been llikely to have become apparent by now.

And Kennedy's association with Bloomberg is definitely part of a clubhouse deal.

Cuomo isn't my first choice - I'd prefer one of the Congressional Reps who are up for the job, but he's still a better choice than Kennedy.

[yesivoteddem]

made a dent?

what the heck does that mean?

ridiculous!

and Caroline is not a "trained lawyer"
She went to law school - but never practiced . Even her law license is expired.

Shes as "trained " as any 24 year old recent grad with no experience.

None,

[drock973]

"She is very wealthy and cannot be influenced by lobbyist."

So then what was the big deal with McCain and his ties to lobbyists? He's very wealthy so by your standard he couldn't be influenced either.

[SailFree]

Interesting. Verrrryyy interrrressssting.
--Artie Johnson

He may be a better politician, but at least she didn't have a big hand in provoking the mortgage and financial crisis the way Cuomo did! He played a major role in the raising of the percentage of bad loans mandated back in the 1990s under Clinton. Expanding the Community Redevelopment Act's mandate from 1977 under Carter.

Yes he did!

[glorialovelace]

You could also say -- with considerable justification -- that the famous Clinton Bull Market is responsible for today's economic meltdown. With forced low interest rates forcing money into the stock market and artificially inflating the value of stocks that shouldn't be worth much, it should have been easy to foresee that we were heading for the wall.

Especially with hindsight.

[AnnfromCA]

Well, her strategy failed, but it probably should have failed. She's really not qualified to be a senator.

[4real]

Slim pickings. Gov Patterson needs to make a decision. What is taking him so long?

[glorialovelace]

The other candidates Paterson is considering are hardly "slim pickings" That's the irony. He'd be turning away really qualified people for somebody with no experience and no obvious talent.

Do you even know who the other candidates for this senate seat are?

[marignymitch]

He's delaying blowback from Kennedy anointment.

[meko]

There are so many qualified people up for this position that it's bound to be a difficult choice. Besides, Hillary Clinton hasn't left office.

[hamchunk]

Because it is alot harder to hide the money paid for the Senate seat in the Cayman Islands than it used to be.

[dct1999]

As he has repeatedly said, he won't name the appointee until Hillary is confirmed. Why are some of you so uninformed?

[meede]

Funny how the story has surfaced as to the insurance companies ripping people off on benefit payments. The statement that Cuomo has read 'millions' of insurance claims which have been going on for over 10 years and only now decided to make it public. I wouldn't vote for him for the fact he has kept it under wraps and let the people to continue to be ripped off for for that many years. Totally displays his egotistical and arrogant personna to use it when it benefits him -- not the citizens. If he is chosen -- I will vote for the other party in the 2010 Senate race no matter who it is.

[yesivoteddem]

Naderite foolishness.

and how about a link to your "charges"?

[meede]

Here are a few links:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/01/13/2009-01-13_ag_andrew_cuomo_reins_in_health_care_gia.html

http://cbs11tv.com/health/health.insurance.fraud.2.907900.html