Holder: If My Independence Is Compromised, I'll Resign

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January 15, 2009 02:14 PM

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Midway through the day, Eric Holder's confirmation hearings have contained moments of contention and lightheartedness. But the one thread that stands out is just how much wholesale change is wanted by -- and being promised to -- members of the Judiciary Committee.

Over the course of several hours, Holder pledged to end the practice of waterboarding, review the process of warrantless wiretapping, and end politicization of the Justice Department. One of the stated priorities of the president-elect, the closure of Guantanamo Bay, was also on the to-do list. But that venture, Holder acknowledged, would be held up in the short term by institutional barriers.

"Guantanamo Bay will be closed," said Holder. "The president-elect during the campaign made that promise. Steps are being taken as we speak to look at the manner in which that can occur. I will tell you this will not be an easy task... the question is what will we do with the people there now, roughly 250 or so people. We have to understand who these people are... based on an examination of the record that exist down there. A substantial number of those people can be sent to other countries safely. Other people can be tried in a jurisdiction and put in jail. And there will possibly be other people who we are not going to be able to try for a variety of reasons but who nevertheless are dangerous to this country. We are going to have to figure out what to do with them.

That process, he added, would require, "an extended period of time, and that is the thing that will prevent us from closing Guantanamo as quickly as we would like."

Even if the closure of Guantanamo may take some time, there will be more than enough on Holder's plate in the interim period. Early in the proceedings, he told Chairman Patrick Leahy that he viewed the practice of waterboarding to constitute torture -- leaving open the notion that his Justice Department could investigate Bush administration officials for authorizing that technique.

Later in the session, he suggested to Sen. Russ Feingold that a review of the surveillance law by the incoming administration may come soon.

And at multiple points in his testimony, Holder fielded and dismissed concerns that he would not be an independent agent in the Obama administration. The juxtaposition was the rocky tenure of former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who put in place political litmus tests for potential Justice Department appointees.

"I want to assure you and the American people that I will be an independent Attorney General," said Holder. "I will be the people's lawyer."

In fact, at one rather peculiar point, Holder promised to resign from his post if he felt his position as Attorney General had been compromised.

"I do not think that that is a situation that I will face," he said. "We have a president-elect who is a brilliant constitutional lawyer, a person with a great moral compass. A person who I think will take criticism and advice. ... If however, there was an issue that I thought were that significant that would compromise my ability to serve as an Attorney General in a way as I have described as the people's lawyer, I would not hesitate to resign."

Midway through the day, Eric Holder's confirmation hearings have contained moments of contention and lightheartedness. But the one thread that stands out is just how much wholesale change is wanted by...
Midway through the day, Eric Holder's confirmation hearings have contained moments of contention and lightheartedness. But the one thread that stands out is just how much wholesale change is wanted by...
 
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- somsoc I'm a Fan of somsoc 60 fans permalink
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An Attorney General with ethics? Not since Reno, that is certain. Not under one GOP administration since IKE. NOT ONE. The three that held office (you cannot say 'served') over the past 8 years should each have been impeached for equal by separate criminal conduct.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 01/17/2009
- jackie4444 I'm a Fan of jackie4444 7 fans permalink

Well Mr. Holder, its (beg your pardon) a little hard to buy this 'won't be compromised' stuff. Nothing to
do with Rich. Has to do with that little nun who was tortured in Central America, you remember her,
Sr. Diana Ortiz? Remember how she camped out on the WH lawn while you and Janet were minding the store, asking for a DOJ investigation because an American agent was involved? How far did she get, Mr. Holder? Not off Square One did she? Ever read her book about it, Mr. Holder?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 01/16/2009
- somsoc I'm a Fan of somsoc 60 fans permalink
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I won't say that Jackie has a narrow mind but when she walks too fast her earrings bang together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 01/17/2009

So when he was working on the Marc Rich and other extremely questionable pardons his independence was NOT compromised, so he agreed with them, or he would have resigned. But in the next breath the claim is Holder didn't support these horrible pardons and was just doing his job. Oh my the hypocrookisy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 01/16/2009
- somsoc I'm a Fan of somsoc 60 fans permalink
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What about GHW's pardons of the Iran Contra criminals? That was far far worse than any of Clinton's pardons or all of Clinton's combined.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 01/17/2009
- rogerze I'm a Fan of rogerze 4 fans permalink

"And there will possibly be other people who we are not going to be able to try for a variety of reasons but who nevertheless are dangerous to this country"

Exactly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 AM on 01/16/2009

All these Republicans have on Holder is this Rich case. Specter would not let it go. He was really hard on Holder. Almost accusatory in his questioning. I am glad that Holder called him on it and say that his assertion was out of line. Go Holder!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 AM on 01/16/2009
- somsoc I'm a Fan of somsoc 60 fans permalink
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The reality is Clinton could have pardoned Rich with or without Holder's recommendation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 01/17/2009

How about going after bush and cheney, rove, et all? This is a golden opportunity to do so before they get a blanket pardon on all. Its not mandatory.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 01/15/2009
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Ah bs, the whole ag to prez relationship is screwed, independent how? like reno and clinton? jfk and rfk? bush and alberto? they should kill the gethner nomination as well, money guy who does not pay taxes??? give me a break, same old lame old dc story!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 01/15/2009
- obamagal I'm a Fan of obamagal 50 fans permalink
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What more can anyone want; how much clearer can he be.

I see Mr. Hold er as a man of integrity and honor, much like PE Oba ma. What a fine choice the P E made.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 01/15/2009

How is that possible? Holder must have agreed with the Rich and FALN issues then, because he didn't resign. He must have thought Tony Rezko an admirable human being, because he didn't resign from working with him, but neglected to mention it on his resume to Obama.

This guy is horrible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 01/15/2009
- Petey131 I'm a Fan of Petey131 29 fans permalink

You must be related to "rollindiv­ision."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 01/15/2009
- somsoc I'm a Fan of somsoc 60 fans permalink
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Sorry child, but Rezko, Rich et al was all out there. Get a grip and some education.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 01/17/2009
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

The republicans fear Holder because he just may actually UPHOLD the constitution. Nothing Scares repubs like someone who follows rule of law and uphold the constitution.

We are entering a different phase in our history. Holder admits to making mistakes which is more than I can say for many of the others who are actually GRILLING him. They need to follow his lead. Cause all of us had a part in getting us where we are today and ironically in my opinion its those who have made mistakes admit them and see where their mistakes have led are the ones we can be sure of wont make that mistake again.

We all need a day of National absolution where we admit to our mistakes from those of us that let fear rule our lives that we let our government get away with taking away our freedoms and scaring us to vote a certain way to those who took it away to those who didnt speak out. A national day of mourning.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 01/15/2009
- obamagal I'm a Fan of obamagal 50 fans permalink
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harrisclr3 - you said:

"Holder admits to making mistakes which is more than I can say for many of the others who are actually GRILLING him. They need to follow his lead."

I second that, and couldn't agree more. We can start with Ar len Spec ter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 01/15/2009
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noone is scared, they are all in on it together, does not matter dem or repub, just keep our little dc cabal chugging along and we can get the publics eye off the ball if we throw some meat out there for one side or the other to jump on, and we can go skate along and up our pension...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 01/15/2009

Nonsense! Last time I checked no Democrat administration decimated the US Constitution as the Bush Administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 01/15/2009

After watching Bush's final press conference and Cheney's interview with Jim Lehrer, I'm convinced that the word "mistake" doesn't exist in the Republican vocabulary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 01/15/2009
- somsoc I'm a Fan of somsoc 60 fans permalink
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Carol, well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 01/17/2009
- benne I'm a Fan of benne 10 fans permalink

I've always wondered why no one in the Bush administration resigned. Why didn't Powell, for example, resign when his principles were undercut?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 01/15/2009
- obamagal I'm a Fan of obamagal 50 fans permalink
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That's a very good question. I wonder if we will ever know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 01/15/2009

He did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 01/15/2009
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Powell did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 01/15/2009
- somsoc I'm a Fan of somsoc 60 fans permalink
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Powell knew that the information he delivered to the UN was not accurate but did not have the integrity to stand up and say so, get real. He admitted this in his book. He knew and presented false information to the world body.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 01/17/2009

That's a laugh. Did you resign over the Marc Rich sellout?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 01/15/2009
- Cunningham I'm a Fan of Cunningham 89 fans permalink
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Upholding the Constitution and Rule of Law; that's change I can believe in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 01/15/2009
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ha, i'll beleive it when i see it, of course we wont' because they are in it together for the sake of themselves­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 01/15/2009

He's not going to last long like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 01/15/2009
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Well look back at Bushes first term. Anyone with any shred of integrity left jumped ship almost as fast as they jumped on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 01/15/2009
- kmich718 I'm a Fan of kmich718 26 fans permalink
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Your handle says it all... NEXT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 01/15/2009
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Ok, what's with the Republicans now questioning Obama's appointees about things they did themselves. Just when I thought they had passed the threshold of hypocrisy, they have to raise the bar even higher. The Republicans are concerned that Holder won't be independent of Obama when their last three AG's took their oath to George Bush and not to the American people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 01/15/2009
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They are hopeless insane?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 01/15/2009

and inane!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 01/15/2009
- Chlowina I'm a Fan of Chlowina 22 fans permalink
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Ironic, isn't it? What they justified, they now find deplorable.

The old double standard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 01/15/2009
- obamagal I'm a Fan of obamagal 50 fans permalink
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Yes, the height of hypocrisy. Spec ter the worst of all. (Today's hitman, to Tuesday's Vit ter in Hill's hearing).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 01/15/2009

Do we really want (or need) a man of integrity at the justice dept?

I mean come on folks - we've 8 years without one in there and everything has been just fine right? Right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 01/15/2009
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I can only afford to wait 4 or 5 months to see whether Obama and the Congressional Democrats want to restore a Legitimate Federal Government or not.

And from everyone I've spoken with they feel the same way. People are already thinking about how much they can invest in "Federal Government" before deciding to cut their losses by not flushing any more of their time and attention down the DC toilet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 01/15/2009
- amistad I'm a Fan of amistad 127 fans permalink
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Sorry, you can't get away from the DC government, and even if you can't wait, you will have to and you will also have to put up with it....
That is just the way it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 01/15/2009
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