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Obama's Election: "This Thing Is Ordained"

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First Posted: 01-19-09 03:30 PM   |   Updated: 02-19-09 05:12 AM

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With the inauguration of the first black president occurring the day after Martin Luther King Day, politics and race are firmly colliding in Washington D.C. this week. A subtext of it all, however, has been religion, whether it be the choice of Rick Warren to deliver the invocation tomorrow or the deep sense of spirituality that some read in Barack Obama's election.

At a religious service honoring Martin Luther King at the Metropolitan A.M.E. Church in D.C. the soon-to-be president was at the forefront of nearly every speaker's mind. But it was two of the political guests who weaved religious threads into the political process.

"Let's join hands with this new leader that we will install tomorrow," said Majority Whip James Clyburn, "to put our faith disciplines to work. It will be then and only then that religion and service can come together and give meaning to the lives of those who pray and hope that there is a better day here on earth."

Rep. Kendrick Meeks, meanwhile, recounted a particularly depressing day he was having during the election, in which Obama's prospects didn't appear that good. He talked to his mother, former Congresswoman Carrie Meeks, who soothed the anxiety.

"She said that this thing is ordained," recalled the younger Meeks.

In his crowd-pleasing speech, Meeks made another interesting remark. Among all aspects of the election that he found particularly moving, the endorsement of Obama by Colin Powell was close to the top.

"I couldn't move," the Florida Democrat recalled of that late-in-the-campaign "Meet the Press" interview. "This man gave the best endorsement of Barack Obama or any other leader in my lifetime."

With the inauguration of the first black president occurring the day after Martin Luther King Day, politics and race are firmly colliding in Washington D.C. this week. A subtext of it all, however, ha...
With the inauguration of the first black president occurring the day after Martin Luther King Day, politics and race are firmly colliding in Washington D.C. this week. A subtext of it all, however, ha...
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Where are the screams of separation of church and state! Liberals always cry when a right winger is seen being prayed over! Oh, I forgot it is Obama...so that whole separation of church and state thing is ok now. Because your guy is in. Hypocrites!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 1/20/2009

You need to start dealing with reality and your life will be easier and the bitterness in you will no longer be there. I am repulsed by repubs who are so bitter by obama presidency. it is has happened and nothing is going to change the situation so kindly learn to deal with it with no frustration.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 1/20/2009
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Stroll down the thread and you'll see some anti-religion entries. Check the Huff-Po archives, too, regarding Obama's choice of Rick Warren. I wouldn't call it equal-opportunity grousing, but you can be sure the ban-religion crowd is upset over this.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 1/20/2009
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I get really creeped out when people start saying elected leaders are chsen by god or ordained. They said the same crap about Bush, he even said it himself. Which is it people? Church or State? It cant be both. I dont care if he is a Druid or Shinto, I want a leader not a preacher. Besides, I think he is an atheist just like him mom was. Hoorah!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 1/20/2009
- texanna I'm a Fan of texanna 32 fans permalink

Let's not forget that the bushies also thought their administration was "ordained", and keep our heads on straight through all the hoopla of the inauguration.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 1/20/2009
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The problem with Bush was his blind faith in the Bible. The supporters of Israel have only the Bible to support their ideas. The terrorism and the billions wasted on the terrorism war is all due to the United States support of Israel. It consumes our foreign and domestic policies.
The primary reason Israel exists as a religious state is that some believe that somewhere in some old Bible, it says that GOD gave Israel to the Jews. Only a religious nut would use that as a bases of foreign policy.
I hope we don't have a true believer in the white house that looks to the Bible for foreign policy advice.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 1/20/2009
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No, the problem with Bush is he was uneducated on the purpose and mechanics of governing so he leaned on religiosity to make himself look noble and righteous.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 1/20/2009
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This was the most insightful comment I have seen in regards to Bush's dismal failure as leader of this country! Kudos!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 1/20/2009
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The Israel aspect of your comment is like the conversation about race in America. We tinker around the edges but it never becomes a full blown discussion. The world is shaped by people’s interpretation of history. Right and wrong are choices made by others. What we find often when the light is turned on, is the same old everyday run-of-the-mill human failing. This country needs a person who has the intellect to crystallize thought and break it off in bite-sized morsels to feed and sustain a starving nation. The death of the spirit will be the death of America. The reason why today is most important is because it is the beginning of the litmus test -- for us. Who are we going to be going forward. If we are going to lie manipulate and distort, then is that not what we have been doing (Bush, Cheney, Blagojevich, Madoff). The truth of Israel is that there are humans living there today, on a piece of land, called -- Israel. They must live as the Palestinian must live. It is by custom and viewpoint that worlds are shaped or, all politics is local. The United States must stand for fairness or it will fall for anything. Our policy concerning both parties to the long-running dispute must be one of recognition of precious life. Our policy must be one of reward for they who are peaceful; those who promote it, manifest it, secure it, orchestrate it, and embrace it.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 1/20/2009
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As much as people would like to sterilize the long march of Civil Rights into a social movement, they cannot. Not in good conscience. From Sojourner Truth, through Rev. Martin Luther King to Barack Obama, the thread is consistent.
It is a thread of belief substantiated by faith that is real, that is humble, that is traditional and is rock solid. The evidence is clear today, that there is a legacy of faith that has stood the test, when freedom seemed impossible and when equality was only a dream. Faith that that kept hungry tormented people going. And now, it seems that God promised and God delivered.
Like it or not.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 AM on 1/20/2009
- Onealtx I'm a Fan of Onealtx permalink

I agree, Church has been the place that African Americans were able to build community and learn how to survive in a country what did not accept them and abused them for so long. To criticize Obama's choice of RIck Warren or even his clear recognition of God and faith in his life is to not understand the role of Church and God in the thread of African American culture! Obama is an American - an African American and soon all people will be able to see the America through those eyes! We should all celebrate!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 1/20/2009
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The Civil Rights struggle can never be extricated from its religious roots.
Re. Martin Luther King, dreamed of this day and to him, this day
was the ‘glory’ of the coming. And Civil Rights can never be extricated from the abject poverty that
drove the people from the plank churches into the streets to demand their rights
in Christian peacefulness. Now, Civil Rights can never be extricated from Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s church either, which as most black churches are, is ‘everything’ to a poor community that can afford no other health clinic, day care center, treatment center, job training, gym, spa, personal trainer, contractor, legal aid, marriage counseling and political meeting hall- to say nothing of food bank, shelter and an extended family-communal warm heart and soul that keeps the poor from total despair. Most all it is the fervent and powerful voice of triumphant belief that says: “We can, we will, and God promised!” Church, with its basic refusal to accept oppression and with outrage against injustice as an assault on conscience: that’s the church Obama came out of . That’s where he found his mission. How can faith, religion and a dream of equality and good leadership ever be
‘dis membered’ from that solid beginning in a faith community and its resultant and sustained sense of responsibility to those less fortunate, less able and more vulnerable? The answer is that it can’t.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 AM on 1/20/2009
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Execute

Take a look at the mass -- All wanting or needing something. How long will the honeymoon last? When will Obama need to go good will hunting? Mandate for change, the people said, no more...of the same. Does Obama have a vision? Does his plan heal rifts, recession, and rancor, and shore up historical divisions? Historic moments -- pregnant and about to give birth. Here we are on our archeological dig for who we are. What will we find, what will we unearth. Now is the time for change but what is now worth? The road to hell is paved with good intentions. The agony of hell does not require description or demand mention. It serves no purpose to give its temperature, it level of pain, or its agonizing and daunting dimensions. One things for sure if we continue to do what we have been doing, closer to the cliffs’ edge we will be inching.

Don’t blink! Here we go! Crying is not going to help you none!

If you are not scared why are you flinching?
Your flinching is an extension of your doubt!
Hold on tight we are about to find out -- about change and hope!

Execute Obama!
Put an end to the okedoke.
Execute Obama!
Transform by the words you spoke.
Execute Obama!
The people need a break.
Execute Obama!
You have the world’s attention.
The masses are focused, inspired, hopeful, and awake.
Execute Obama!
Conquer the challenges, drive ‘er home, make the case.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 1/20/2009
- sunnyjane I'm a Fan of sunnyjane 20 fans permalink

There's an old saying: "God provides food for every bird, but he doesn't throw it into the nest."

We have to recognize that Barack Obama is our chance to change the world's perceptions of us, and our perceptions of ourselves. The soon-to-be-president needs all of us to help each other obtain the goals we want and need. He leads, we follow and support him. It won't take long for us to feel a WHOLE LOT BETTER about the future.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 1/20/2009
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Well, even as a Christian, I doubt Obama's presidency was "ordained", but no one can deny it's a blessing after 8 years of Bush.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 1/20/2009
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Ordained or not it is a gift we cannot afford to waste!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 AM on 1/20/2009
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You are right!! And we ALL need to participate and take our nation back and rebuild it to the great nation we need to be, for all citizens!!! A nation for the people, of the people!!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 1/20/2009
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I agree, but lets remember it was just Kendrick Meeks' mother who said that not every black leader. The prayers for Obama at this junction, are for his safety. Remember that black leaders in America have a habit of getting killed. Every black person I know prayed this Sunday for Obama's safety as well as his Presidency.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 AM on 1/20/2009
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Today I held open a door for a woman with a walker so she could enter a store. She said "God bless you" in an old Eastern European accent.

I wanted to say: I don't believe in God. I'm nice all on my own. Instead, I said "thank you," and went on my way.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 1/20/2009
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Comment: yeah! Like Satan, disease, sin, death, babies born into starvation with flys buzzing around their eyes, floods, tornados, etc etc etc.

Yeah! - and, what is "MAN" doing...allowing these things to persist. We are here to help and take care of each other. We ALL are in this together. We can not - ever allow the struggles of this world to deter us from being compassionate and care towards the ones in need.

WE ARE, OUR, BROTHERS KEEPER....and, it's wrapped in love for one another.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 1/19/2009
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God wanting Obama to win - is NOT dangerous, it's the people with small minds that think it's dangerous to pray for one another, in hopes of the best for their lives. Were all in this together, whether we like it or not. I pray we can keep our sanity and compassion for one another while WE ALL go through this transition.

The Bush Administration had nailed in the framework of our lives...GOD help us all.

KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 1/19/2009
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God belief not withstanding there is a certain mythic quality and pre-destined quality to the whole Obama affair and win. We all have moments like this in our lives I think...when a series of events and our willingness to action take us to a place that feels as though it is meant to be. We know when we are doing what we are supposed to be doing.

It's tricky to boil it down to simply God wanting Obama to win...that is a bit small and dangerous.
It's more that the pendelum had to swing in this direction after its dismal trajectory these last 8 LONNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG years.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 1/19/2009
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I agree with you and even venture somewhat to it being a God thing.

Think about all the things that happen to make Obama:

A combination of a black and a white parent, which gave Obama a unique experience of living in both the white and black world, without every really feeling like he belonged until living in Chicago in the black world. He was the only English speaking black student in Indonesia, once again learning to live in another world.

A father that left him that resulted in great pain. Growing-up in a single household.

Obama got his speaking ability from his father.

Both parents were very intelligent. His mother was dedicated to his education. His grandfather having connections to get him into the private school in Hawaii. Mother and grandfather were dreamers. Toot was the practical down to earth person with reason.

The experience of having half-brothers and a sister in Kenya.

We all need to remember that Obama needs our help. It will make him look good if more people would access his website for service and volunteer for projects.

www.usaservice.org

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 1/19/2009
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I love how so many posters are defending the God that put us here. Too often spirituality has been derided and mocked on HuffPost.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 1/19/2009
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because established religion has become a blight on our politics, and to peace in the world. Imagine no religion......, i do agree with you on 'spirituality', tho. it gets consumed by the 'establishment', if your not careful with it.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 1/19/2009
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So, we should get rid of our established-religion ideas and start dispensing the same simple-minded Lenny Bruce, John Lennon, richard dawkins, and Mark Twain cliches that every anti-religionist lives on? This way, we'll... what? Free our minds?

Freethinking--the most tyrannical group think ever devised.

As for the evils of "established" religion, please note that our founders made no attempt to ban same and every attempt to nurture it. Why do you disagree with their vision of religious freedom? What do you know that they didn't?

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 1/20/2009
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I know and it is sometimes so painful. It is nice some people have found the nerve to express their spirituality here now.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 AM on 1/20/2009
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I think its been mocked when people have tried to use religion for personal gain, support racist views and other ungod-like acts. But spirituality and religion basic goal throughout time to individuals have meant HOPE and greater good for ALL !

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 1/20/2009
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WE HAVE REACHED THE MOUNTAIN TOP........CHANGE IS FINALLY HERE AND IT'S NAME IS OBAMA

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 1/19/2009
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Maybe. Or maybe not.

I will wait to see what kinds of decisions he makes.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 1/19/2009
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we can see the promised land...., but, we are so far from it. change is not here, yet. but, i certainly hope it starts on day one. i will celebrate it when it really happens in policy.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 1/19/2009
- lemekid I'm a Fan of lemekid 5 fans permalink

Goodness, haven't you seen change already? You have a new president tomorrow and he is black. That in itself is a change.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 1/20/2009
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