Obama: Stimulus Bill Needs Bipartisan Help

JIM KUHNHENN   01/23/09 08:20 PM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats sought to ease Republican complaints about a massive economic stimulus plan Friday, meeting with GOP leaders in the White House and promising to consider some of their recommendations.

Many Republican lawmakers say the $825 billion package is too costly, and that too much of the spending is for long-range projects that won't aid the economy quickly. Some economists say the package should be even bigger, however, and it was unclear whether Republicans would have much impact.

House and Senate GOP leaders "had some constructive suggestions, which we'll review," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., told reporters after the meeting with Obama and House and Senate leaders from both parties in the Roosevelt Room.

Speaking at the National Press Club shortly after the White House gathering, Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader in the Senate, said he believes the measure will clear Congress by the mid-February target date set by Obama and Democratic leaders.

In brief remarks before the meeting, Obama urged bipartisan support for the package, adding that he wanted to hear the Republicans' concerns.

"I know that it is a heavy lift to do something as substantial as we're doing right now," Obama said. "I recognize that there are still some differences around the table and between the administration and members of Congress about particular details on the plan.

"But I think what unifies this group is a recognition that we are experiencing an unprecedented, perhaps, economic crisis that has to be dealt with, and dealt with rapidly."

He thanked congressional leaders for working quickly on the rescue package that he says will create 3 million to 4 million new jobs.

"That is going to be absolutely critical and it appears that we are on target to make our President's Day weekend," he said. President's Day falls on Monday, Feb. 16.

Obama also said that any legislation governing the use of an additional $350 billion in financial industry bailout money must include new measures to ensure accountability and transparency.

After the meeting, House Republican Leader John Boehner said he and his colleagues told Obama they feel the stimulus package is too expensive and too slow. He said Republicans told Obama of their own plans to "get fast-acting tax relief in the hands of American families and small businesses, because, at the end of the day, government can't solve this problem."

Republicans have been seeking deeper tax cuts and have said there was no reliable estimate of the bill's impact on employment.

Democrats tried to mitigate the impact of a Congressional Budget Office study that questioned administration claims that the money could be spent fast enough to reduce joblessness quickly.

After attending the White House meeting, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said there was "significant discussion about the CBO numbers." He said Obama's budget director, Peter Orszag, who recently headed the CBO, told participants that the study analyzed only 40 percent of the pending stimulus bill and that Orszag "would guarantee that at least 75 percent of the bill would go directly into the economy within the first 18 months."

Also on Friday, Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus unveiled a Senate version of the tax-cutting portion of the bill. Social Security recipients would get a bonus payment of $300 under the plan. Its tax cuts and spending proposals total $355 billion. It will be paired with $400 billion in further spending proposed by the Appropriations Committee on the Senate floor.

The House version of the bill advanced in committees this week. Republicans, who are in the minority, were unable to make inroads with their proposals.

The House Ways and Means Committee on Thursday approved $275 billion in tax cuts on a party-line vote of 24-13. The House Energy and Commerce Committee, also working on the bill, cleared $2.8 billion to expand broadband communications service. And on Wednesday night, the House Appropriations Committee approved a $358 billion spending measure on a 35-22 party-line vote.

Obama is scheduled to meet in the Capitol with House Republicans next week, at their request. But by then the House bill could be on the floor awaiting a vote.

Government reports showed the number of new jobless claims was up and new home construction hit an all-time low in December.

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Associated Press writers Charles Babington, Andrew Taylor, David Espo, Stephen Ohlemacher and Kevin Freking contributed to this report.

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Halter
10:40 PM on 01/23/2009
It needs the best minds we have-it needs Paul Krugman.
08:30 PM on 01/23/2009
The passage of the stimulus package is taking way too long. The stock market is tanking and it could get even worse. We can't wait until the middle of February - we need this help now - today!!
07:11 PM on 01/23/2009
So the stimulus plan might be, rounded off, 800,000,000,000 bucks. Eight hundred billion.

The number of jobs "created or saved" (and the government admits it has NO WAY TO TABULATE JOBS SAVED) would be 3,000,000. Or thereabouts. The figures are a bit squirrelly, changing every few days.

But given those figures, the cost per job saved would be about 266 MILLION DOLLARS per job, even if one actually could say that that many jobs would be created.

Doesn't this seem excessive?
07:16 PM on 01/23/2009
Sorry, skipped decimal places. But the cost would still be amazingly high. Why not just cut taxes and let the entrepreneurs and the corporations create the jobs much more cheaply?
07:27 PM on 01/23/2009
Or provide loan guarantees to new businesses, where I m at in part of the U.S. there is a severe lack of funds to tech entrepreneurs, it sucks to not be able to work with this unless you are a building contractor, its the s h i t s
07:21 PM on 01/23/2009
267,000 dollars to create jobs paying--what? And the government does not turn a profit. The jobs created by private industry would result in profit and the economy would grow.

The government stimulus method ends up hurting the economy in the long run whenever tried. The economy began growing in 2003 after the tax cuts kicked in, not before that when the government threw 600 dollar checks at everybody.
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Peter007
06:12 PM on 01/23/2009
I read some of the bill and I think that the biggest group it will help is tax accountants. Its filled with tax breaks that are qualified with lots of restrictions. If your tax return took 5 hours to complete last year, it will take 10 hours this year.
There is a big tax break for home builders . They will get to claim 2008 losses on income from 2003, 04, 05, and 06 and 07. It does nothing for small home builders. Its a freebie to Toll Bros and other mega builders. Many of these mega builders are sitting on millions if not billions of cash now.
Also, if you have wealthy parents collecting Social security. They will get an additional $300.
None of the jobs that they say will be created will be jobs in the sector that helps exports. All the jobs are temporary jobs in the building of infrastructure, When government money runs out, its back to the unemployment lines. 2-3 years max.
07:18 PM on 01/23/2009
This bill is the s h i t s, I just tried all day to fit my tribe's economic goals and needs into this thing and can't make it happen. I guess this stimulus bill will stimulate someone else, it sure isn't gonna help us.
07:32 PM on 01/23/2009
Sounds like the Montana Economic Plan---Baucus Blue Print. Explains why MT is the poorest state in the nation......
07:22 PM on 01/23/2009
Indeed, the tax accountants will make out like bandits. The Obama methodology, confiscating money from workers and then creating dozens and dozens of giveaways and loopholes and incentives will create a tax code so convoluted that nobody will be able to keep track of it.

It will not only make tax accountants big bucks, but create millions of people who have made errors, allowing the government an excuse to prosecute pretty much anybody they take a dislike to.
05:47 PM on 01/23/2009
I love my president, but I don't think this stimulus bill has a prayer for stimulating anything other than Republican ire. One of the major obstacles for making any progress whatsoever is a Congress full of short-sighted, self-interested and hypocritical legislators who can't or won't see the forest for the little trees they're trying to plant.
07:30 PM on 01/23/2009
I know, christ it s like dealing with my bull headed husband, Bad President.
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CHARLESTHETENTH
05:20 PM on 01/23/2009
This is not the 1930's when putting people to work by government intervention seemed to be a lot easier. New projects today require a long process...plans, permits, material, bids etc....especially when building roads or bridges. Making repairs to infrastructure may be a lot simpler but still requires a time consuming process. For this reason it is hard to believe that the stimulus package will be effective in the near term...especially creating jobs and putting people to work quickly. Not to mention finding skilled workers to make it all work. Most people now days that are out of work are not the ones working on construction projects but more from Wall Street and Service companies like Banks, Investment firms and the like. Many would have to be retrained. Looks like we have a long hard road ahead for all this to work and work well.....we hope !!
10:03 PM on 01/25/2009
do you think that money, that is set aside for infrastructure,building bridges,roads will go to the states and be used for their there bad budgets. think about it.
04:48 PM on 01/23/2009
Some things may not be the exact 'quick fix' that the Republicans now want, but they will be short term investments and they will create jobs and opportunity. They will address future savings, better alternatives and more options.These are investments that should of been made already. Alternative energy investment will put people to work in the short and long run. This will open a whole new area of scientific industry. Investment in the internet, how could any American support not investing in access to this tool of our times? Internet investment will create opportunity for millions as trade goes more and more online. It will help elevate the publics knowledge as they can access information on everything, whether it is a word looked up in the dictionary, or a document you think might be better to read yourself, instead of getting anothers interpretation of it.

It may not be that 'quick fix', but IMO what of any real value is ever a 'quick fix'. All good things take some time, most investments take some time to bring income. Except perhaps scams or bubbles, but look where those got us.
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tnfit78
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04:45 PM on 01/23/2009
Exactly what is it with republicans and taxes?? There are tax cuts in the stimulus plan. And if republicans want more tax cuts then those cuts should go to middle and low income families and individuals as well as small businesses that haven't seen a dime that was suppossed to get to them from the TARP.
04:01 PM on 01/23/2009
The 19 Republican senators who voted FOR releasing half of the Bailout funds to Bush (money that has now DISAPPEARED INTO THIN AIR) but voted AGAINST allowing President Obama to use the remaining funds:

Bob Bennett (R-UT)
Kit Bond (R-MO)
Richard Burr (R-NC)
Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
John Ensign (R-NV)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
Chuck Grassley (R-IA)
Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Mel Martinez (R-FL)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Arlen Specter (R-PA)
John Thune (R-SD)

If your Senator is on this list, call them today!
10:18 PM on 01/25/2009
DONT BE STUPID THEY KNOW WHERE THE MONEY WENT TO. BANKS ARE HOLDING ON TO IT. AS A SAFETY GAP INCASE THE ECOMONY GETS WORSE. IF CONGRESS WAS THAT CONCERNED ABOUT THE MONEY THEY WOULD BE HOLDING CONGRESSIONAL HEARING ON THEM
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DFL
Liberal and proud of it.
03:44 PM on 01/23/2009
It's funny how repubs were not worried about spending too much money when they were getting us into Iraq!
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04:14 PM on 01/23/2009
Or giving it to Wall St.
07:31 PM on 01/23/2009
Because theyre bastards. Dealing with my state's legislature today, I would have been better off ramming my head into a brick wall until I passed out.
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kasinca
Liberal Vietnam Veteran
03:29 PM on 01/23/2009
For all the reichwingnuts who are giving fiscal advise....your way failed. Get it? We tried doing your reaganomics, voodoo, bull crap and look where we are today. Now get to the back of the bus and let the grownups for a change.
03:02 PM on 01/23/2009
I'm hoping that the Republicans give Obama the same kind of bi-partisan support that the Democrats gave to GWB when he tried to re-regulate Fannie/Freddie! And seek VICTORY in Iraq.
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newmexicogold
03:18 PM on 01/23/2009
Since it wasn't a war, it is an occupation, exactly how do you define victory? Have you read thwe Bush proposal to re-regulate Fannie Freddie? Bush would have doubled the damage if they had gone along.

Go back to trolling places you are thought of as clever.
03:18 PM on 01/23/2009
LOL
Jazzcomedian
An easy going responsible bohemian
02:56 PM on 01/23/2009
I'm no economics expert, so I can't pretend to know what will definitively work. Maybe nothing, since all the stimulus packages designed by the other nations in the world to try, and dig out of the same hole we're in have come for naught so far.

The legislative process is a process just like writing an inaugural speech or a term paper. You've got 100 senators and 435 representatives who all want to put their imprint on a bill with their ideas--some they've wanted to implement for a long time. Which is what they were elected and paid to do. They've got ideas, so let them express them in a preliminary draft. This is a democracy after all. I'm a writer, and in the first draft everything you can think of goes into it. Then comes the editing and shaping. You're not supposed to grade the first draft, you grade the final draft.

President Obama is an experienced legislator from his days in the Illinois State Senate, and knows the process. President Obama will let the Congress write the first drafts, and then massage it with Congress, and his economic team into it's final form. That's where he'll have to demonstrate his skill in editing and selection. We'll see what the final draft looks like when he signs it into law. That's when an evaluation of President Obama's ability to navigate the legislative process will be appropriate--not before.
02:52 PM on 01/23/2009
The government may be out of ammunition.

Interest rates at 0% and gas back to $2 and unemployment is still rising and home values plummeting.

I would like to see hosuing fixed first; order a 3% fixed rate for all up to $600K. If that does not get things going, nothing will. Do this even if lending has to be direct to government.
07:52 PM on 01/23/2009
that is interesting. personally i feel there are too many people with credit debt and not enough saved. i think the credit ratings of corporations are at a different scale and that the FICO scoring system was meant to minimize risk but that it is what stagnating the economy because people are maxed out and not buying. the consumer drives the economy. but i am stupid so what do i know.
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k6007
Obama/Biden 2012!
02:41 PM on 01/23/2009
Nancy has been downright bubbly since 11-04-08....I know how she feels!:)
03:19 PM on 01/23/2009
I know I would feel the same way if I was given 1 trillion to spend on anything too!