Bishop Richard Williamson, Holocaust Denier, Reinstated By Pope (VIDEO)

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AP   |  NICOLE WINFIELD   |   January 24, 2009 03:38 PM

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VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI has lifted the excommunications of four traditionalist bishops, including that of a Holocaust denier whose rehabilitation sparked outrage among Jewish groups.

The four bishops were excommunicated 20 years ago after they were consecrated by the late ultraconservative Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre without papal consent _ a move the Vatican said at the time was an act of schism.

The Vatican said Saturday that Benedict rehabilitated the four as part of his efforts to bring Lefebvre's Society of St. Pius X back into the Vatican's fold.

But the move came just days after one of the four, British Bishop Richard Williamson, was shown in a Swedish state TV interview saying that historical evidence "is hugely against 6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed."

WATCH: Interview with Bishop Williamson


Jewish groups denounced the Vatican for having embraced a Holocaust denier and warned that the pope's decision would have serious implications for Catholic-Jewish relations as well as the pontiff's planned visit to the Holy Land later this year.

"I do not see how business can proceed as usual," said Rabbi David Rosen, Jerusalem-based head of interrelgious affairs at the American Jewish Committee and a key Vatican-Jewish negotiator.

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He called for the pope or a senior adviser to issue a "clear condemnation" of all Holocaust denials and deniers.

Shimon Samuels of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Paris said he understood the German-born pope's desire for Christian unity, but said Benedict could have excluded Williamson. He warned that his rehabilitation will have a "political cost" for the Vatican.

"I'm certain as a man who has known the Nazi regime in his own flesh, he understands you have to be very careful and very selective," Samuels said.

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said Williamson's views were "absolutely indefensible." But he denied that rehabilitating Williamson implied that the Vatican shared them.

"They are his personal ideas ... that we certainly don't share but they have nothing to do with the issue of the excommunication and the removal of the excommunication," Lombardi told AP Television News.

Williamson's comments cast a cloud over the pope's efforts to normalize relations with the Swiss-based Society of St. Pius X, which Lefebvre founded in 1969. Lefebvre was opposed to the liberalizing reforms of the 1962-65 Second Vatican Council, particularly its ecumenical outreach and its decision to allow Mass to be celebrated in local languages instead of Latin.

Despite concerns from liberal Catholics, Benedict has made clear from the start of his pontificate that he wanted to reintegrate the group back into the Vatican's fold, meeting within months of his election with the current head of the society, Bishop Bernard Fellay.

In 2007, Benedict answered one of Fellay's key demands by relaxing restrictions on celebrating the Latin Mass. In lifting the excommunication decree, he answered the society's second condition for beginning theological discussions about normalizing relations.

The decree from the Vatican's Congregation for Bishops said Benedict "remits" the automatic excommunication that the four bishops incurred and said the 1988 decree declaring their consecrations a schismatic act had no legal standing any longer.

In a statement Saturday, Fellay, who is one of the rehabilitated bishops, expressed his gratitude to Benedict and said the decree would help the whole Roman Catholic Church.

"Thanks to this gesture, Catholics attached to tradition throughout the world will no longer be unjustly stigmatized and condemned for having kept the faith of their fathers," Fellay said in a letter to his supporters.

Fellay, meanwhile, has distanced the society from Williamson's remarks about the Holocaust, saying Williamson only had authority to discuss matters of faith and that he was personally responsible for his own opinions.

But Fellay also berated Swedish state television, accusing it in a Jan. 21 letter of having introduced the Holocaust issue in the interview "with the obvious intention of misrepresenting and maligning," the society.

While Williamson's comments may be offensive and erroneous, they are not an excommunicable offense, said Monsignor Robert Wister, professor of church history at Immaculate Conception School of Theology at Seton Hall University in New Jersey.

"To deny the Holocaust is not a heresy even though it is a lie," he said. "The excommunication can be lifted because he is not a heretic, but he remains a liar."

The Society of St. Pius X, which is based in Menzingen, Switzerland, has six seminaries, three universities and 70 primary and secondary schools around the globe. Aside from the four bishops, it boasts 463 priests and 160 seminarians.

The status of the society's priests remains unsettled. While their ordinations are valid, the Church considers them "illicit" because they were ordained by someone who didn't have the authority, Lombardi said. Pope Paul VI suspended Lefebvre from priestly duties in 1976, but he continued ordaining priests illicitly.

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Associated Press Writer Alessandra Rizzo contributed to this report.

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Deny the truth, you deny God!

Matthew 15: 8-9 and elsewhere!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 01/25/2009
- JohnnyKay I'm a Fan of JohnnyKay 26 fans permalink

and this.....



Part 3

No one with blood on their hands should sit upon the holed out 'seat' of Peter, once a throne for an emperor. Of course, neither should anyone descendant upon Paul, the pretender to Jesus' and James' throne so long ago.

Jesus survived the crucifixion, and the Koran is quite correct in that admission, so how could any man chosen by the very empire that permitted this mock crucifixion be permitted to assume his mantle? It cannot be done.

Adherence to catholicism, the pope and the church of Rome is the heresy, not the Albigernsian, not the Cathars, not the Knights Templars of old, or any memebr of the original values of the Freemasons, only this pope, this church and its minions prophesied to fail, to fall and be brought down to the level of hell they've introduced to Humanity with no Compassion, no Mercy, no Truth and no right to anything less than its just desserts.

It no longer matters what this 'pope' does.

He is ruined.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 01/25/2009
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I feel as if I have been made a fool of by Bishop Richard Williamson. Yesterday, I posted a comment based on taking him at his word regarding the Holocaust and the Nazi concentration camps but now I have come to realize that his words had a totally different meaning than they at first seemed to have.

My awakening was due to the fact that his comments did not make sense. How could a British Bishop deny almost universally accepted facts about Hitler's "Final Solution" to exterminate Jews and the concentration camps as killing and experimental factories to implement the plan? Not possible.

Now what he was saying in a round-about-way is that Israel is using this concept of "anti-Semitism" and the suffering the Jews had experienced for centuries as a means of justifying whatever it is doing now in the Middle East. He was downgrading the horrors of Holocaust in order for us to look at Israel independently of what has taken in the past and judge it by what it is doing now.

As a matter of fact, earlier this month the Church compared Gaza to a concentration camp. By George I got it. I think!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 01/25/2009

Priest IS NOT a "denier"
this priest has not denied people were killed during WWII. He does not agree with the NUMBER of people killed. I dont think I do either. I think that I agree with French accounts which state about 110,000 people were killed during WWII in Germany. More people have been killed in every war since then. The number may be exagerated to gainn sympathy and power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 01/25/2009
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So, can you tell me where you THINK the other 5, 890,000 people went. Or did they never exist in the first place?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 01/25/2009

Did you only listen to the first 60 seconds of the interview? He tries to sound like he is just being reasonable at first. After the first few seconds though, the man says flat out that he thinks nobody died in gas chambers. He goes on to give pseudo-scientific and previously discredited "proof". He does this while ignoring overwhelming mountains of evidence to the contrary. This is near complete denial.

I know several elderly Jewish people who lost most or all of their families in the camps. Some of those people are no longer around to attest to the lives of their parents, brothers, and sisters. This kind of denial is stupid, grossly ignorant, and hurtful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 01/27/2009
- rroy I'm a Fan of rroy 8 fans permalink

If I understand all of this theist double talk,it seems that any one especially a priest or someone of a"competing"religion dares to question the historical accuracy of "The Hollocaust"as depicted by Zionists ,he is ,ipso fact,a Hollocaust denier.And,of course,let's not forget that handy fits all lable,an Anti Semite!
This to me is a glaring example of how people are condemned to ignorance by dogma!
From a personal point of view,having lived through the era,I don't know,and probably couldn't know the actual history of this human tragedy because of it's persistant exageration and exploitation for the last sixty some years!
Some day I would like to read a book or hear a lecture-a series of lectures more likely-by an unbiased credentialed historian,telling the verifiable,documented truth about this era in history.
It will no doubt be quite a while before that event comes!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 01/25/2009

Outlawing the Latin mass was a huge mistake. They had to outlaw it because given a choice the majority of Catholics would go for that service. The Latin was at the essence of the ritual of the mass. Anyone who can learn to speak can learn the Latin mass. Outside of funerals and weddings, I haven't been to mass 10 times since 68. If they bring back the Latin, that will change, I think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 01/25/2009
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The Latin, or Tridentine Mass, was never outlawed. It has always been a valid form of the Mass. It generally fell into disuse in the US. A few years ago, maybe 10 or more, people could have a Tridentine Mass, but only at the approval of the local bishop. In 2007, Pope Benedict XVI lifted that restriction. You may want to check your diocese to see if they have a Tridentine Mass in your area.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 01/25/2009
- JohnnyKay I'm a Fan of JohnnyKay 26 fans permalink

Why not Italian for that matter, inasmuch as the 'mass' in not a 'Christian' invention, but based upon pagan rituals Constantine initiated, as the titular head of Sol Invictus, the pagan worship of the Sun favored by the Roman legions at the time? Constantine saw his opportunity to buffer the Republic so it wouldn't collapse on his watch, by offering an old religion based upon the worship of Mithra. Constatine simply replaced Mithra with Jesus, so it would all 'fit in'.

The church of Rome devised its power from Rome and took its place when the Republic eventually collapsed. And to this day, its sole claim to power is from emperors, not God, and certainly not Jesus.

The Jerusalem Church headed by Jesus' brother James continued until Paul could finally help kill James off at the Temple after having crippled him, whether Paul was dead by then, or not.

Paul was as much a Monster as Constantine; just one anti Christ amiong the many who surface from time to time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 01/25/2009
- chriss0114 I'm a Fan of chriss0114 25 fans permalink
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Why must the mass be in Latin?

I do not recall any of Jesus's sermons in Latin.

Isn't Jesus credited with a sermon to many who spoke many languages but all understood?

Doesn't it make sense that the masses should understand the "mass?"

Most Catholics I know know less about their religion than protestants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 01/25/2009
- JohnnyKay I'm a Fan of JohnnyKay 26 fans permalink

You may be confusing Babylon with one of Jesus' talks, but you're right, he spoke Aramaic.

Bear in mind there were over ninety gospels before Jerome picked the number four based upon the four elemenats, which should give us a clue as to his limited intelligence, but fanatical status which destroyed so much of the truth of the man Jesus.

Why did the Gnostics flourish? They knew the Secret Teachings of Jesus that began with a 'living death' wherein the Spirit actually learned to leave the body at will, and travel to the Dimensions of Thought for the clarity that only personal experience can provide. It also enabled the Initiate to bypass the lower Dimensions of Chaos at death, leave the body in times of torture or pain,,,,,,,,, the list is extensive. Buddhist monks learn all this and more, so it shouldn't be surprising Jesus claims to have been the 'Buddha' in a past life, in the once hidden Second Book of Luke.......... on Reincarnation.

The truth of Reincarnation frees us all from religions that claim superior knowledge to overpower its followers, when the Work of a Life must be completed by us all. Small wonder gnosis means 'knowledge', something the Catholic church can't afford to have its slaves possess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 01/25/2009
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and....The new testament was also entirely written down in Ancient Greek.

The old testament was written in Hebrew... and in my opinion should be interpreted by those who speak Hebrew, especially since Hebrew is an entirely different language than almost any other.... for instance, it is a very concrete language with no real words for emotions or other abstract ideas.... It must be interpreted in context.

(And yes, I didn't learn any of this until I left the Catholic Church, and began learning theology from Protestants and Jews).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 01/25/2009
- redkim I'm a Fan of redkim 34 fans permalink
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The Mass in Latin is not mandatory, so it is no "must." I agree that we should understand the Mass. This is why, for those of us who attend the Tridentine Mass, that we bring our own missal: the Mass is read in Latin on one said and in English, or the vernacular, on the other. I rarely attend the Latin Mass, but when I do, I bring my Latin/English Missal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 01/25/2009

Amazing how freedom of expression,and thought is just not permissable when it comes to WW2 history;the enshrined holacaust tragedy,or Isreali power,or influence.I admire anyone like the Bishop,who takes on the constant assault of ideas by politically correct groups,and Zionists to stifle dissent Knowone should be above question.; nation,group,theology or version of events.That is Orwellian totalatarianism to the extreme. A dangerous path to enslavment.and constant war P.S The Roman Catholic Church.1.1 billion strong does not even attempt to influence Judisms theology or internal affairs,nor should it.For powerful Judiac groups to demand veto power to a Universal Church which it shares little in common theologicaly,is extremley arrogant,and outrageously inappropriate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 01/27/2009
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 158 fans permalink

My understanding is that the Latin Mass was not outlawed. Rather, it is up to each congregation to decide how they prefer the mass performed. I am not Catholic, but someone who is told me that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 01/25/2009
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Lifting an ex-communication is not, contrary to what the article said, an "embrace" of those who have left.

And of course, this welcoming is a signal that the Pope is willing to include those whose views are divurgent from his own. Those who like to bring up his involvement in Hitler Youth would do well to remember that he did not do so voluntarily and that this Pope was the major architect behind the progress between the Vatican and Israel under Pope John Paul II.

Being a holocaust denier, as hateful and ignorant as that is, is not cause for ex-communication. Being "inclusive" and "tolerant" often means being so toward those whose views we find reprehensible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 01/25/2009
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What a joke! If this is a sign of being "inclusive" and "tolerant", then the Catholic church would also allow openly homosexual priests, right? Please, this has NOTHING to do with "tolerance" or "inclusiveness".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 01/25/2009
- redkim I'm a Fan of redkim 34 fans permalink
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All men, gay or straight, in the priesthood take a vow of celibacy. Your argument, then is a strawman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 01/25/2009
- normathumb I'm a Fan of normathumb 25 fans permalink

So, the guy is an unrepentant liar. Will they allow an unrepentant liar hear confession and administer the Eucharist? I suppose it is just another unpriestly act to sweep under the rug.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 01/25/2009
- Boboday555 I'm a Fan of Boboday555 128 fans permalink
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And the ex-Nazi Pope wonders why people have lost all faith in the Cathloic Church!
But, I guess, in this day and age anyone who is willing to be a Catholic Bishop will be tapped.
The Catholic Church is losing more members than the GOP!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 01/25/2009
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The Catholic church is used to deluding people. The last controversy was when they deluded their members by moving around the ped o ph ile priests from one parish to another. They think they can do this, and then wonder why no one goes to their churches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 01/25/2009

It is amazing how freedom of speech is off limits when it comes to WW 2 history.Bishop Williamson is entitled to his views.To deny anyone the right to question the official line of any event is Orwellian totalitarianism.The Roman Catholic Church 1.1 billion strong,and universialy accepting of any human being to freely join, does not interfere,nor should it with the internal debates,and personal decisions of other religions.For Zionist groups to make demands to an organisation which it freely shares little in outlook is utterly inappropraite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 01/27/2009
- Uptick I'm a Fan of Uptick 3 fans permalink

I’ve never heard of Bishop Richard before so I don’t know his history, but based on what I heard on this video, the man is only giving his opinion based on his research. Now, he could be wrong, but so what? Don’t we live in a free society where the freedom to express one’s views exist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 01/25/2009
- Mollabaji I'm a Fan of Mollabaji 17 fans permalink

you ask "don't we live in a free society whee the freedom to express one's views exits?" Nope! The one and only topic where there is no such "freedom" in the Western world is the holocaust industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 01/25/2009

Well, you know, there are libraries full of stuff to research if someone wants the exercise. The Nazis left all sorts of documents and films, including precise numbers of what groups went where and how they died. Information isn't lacking for intellectually honest people to do their research. Anyone can deny anything though, for example, I'm not too sure about gravity. Who's to say I'm wrong? The Earth is round? Oh sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 01/25/2009
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Question: what is a Catholic bishop doing "researching" Holocaust history? Seems to me that he just decided the pick the "research" that affirmed his already existing doubts. Shouldn't he spend his time praying away "sins and evil" instead?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 01/25/2009
- Happyexpat I'm a Fan of Happyexpat 37 fans permalink
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Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, true. But not to his own facts. Very simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 01/25/2009

The Catholic Church has historically been one of the most oppressive, tyrannical, and hypocritical institutions on Earth. Everything it's espoused from it's inception has been politically motivated. There is nothing of any religious value there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 01/25/2009
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Wow, you must have been drinking the Baptist cool-aid. My Church has been around since Pentacost and has brought the Good News to billions and billions of people. It is the Roman Catholic Church. How long has your blasphemous little splinter group been around teach 'your' version of the Gsopel - two to three hundred years?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 01/25/2009

Sorry. You, as your Church through the ages, are guilty of believing anyone who disagrees with you is a heretic and a blasphemous a "reformer".

Your church has been around since the 5th century and the Council of Nicaea under Emperor Constantine.

I affiliate myself with no religious organization based upon many years of research on the "word" they each spread through deed. What "Good News" has the "true" church, or most others, brought that historically hasn't had hypocrisy, prejudice, intolerance, and at times torture and execution attached to it?

Learn the true history of your church and don't be so quick to label others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 01/27/2009

For your edification:
Check out the Gnostic Gospels.
Also check out Paganism and the Council of Nicaea.

If you don't wish to become informed, don't attack others out of blind faith.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 01/27/2009
- JohnnyKay I'm a Fan of JohnnyKay 26 fans permalink

After careful consideration throughout my lifetime and memories of the past, I agree.

Wholeheartedly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 01/25/2009
- hildutus I'm a Fan of hildutus 6 fans permalink

Interesting. The church is willing to brave world opinion in defense of hoIocaust deniers improperly ordained or consecrated. But women? Well, you have to draw the line somewhere!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 01/25/2009
- JohnnyKay I'm a Fan of JohnnyKay 26 fans permalink

The early Christian Church where Mary the Magdala was the thirteenth and most important Disciple of them all, embraced the equality of women in all matters of the early Church........ the Jerusalem Church headed by James, to be exact.

The church of Rome created by Constantine is illegitimate, always has been, and always will be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 01/25/2009

This pope wants the EU constitution to state that EU is primarily of Christian heritage. He believes EU cannot abandon that its religious cultural history is one of Christianity.

But, when he went to India, he said that India should be a secular country and it cannot and should not give any preference to Hinduism.

:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 01/25/2009
- hildutus I'm a Fan of hildutus 6 fans permalink

How dare you try to inject reason into the unquestionable pronouncements of the religious! ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 01/25/2009

This pope was once a Nazi, remember? http://atheism.about.com/od/benedictxvi/i/RatzingerNazi.htm

As with the Bush regime, perhaps Ratzinger, A/K/A The Pope, Benedict XVI, respects loyalty above all else. I wonder if he has cute nick-names for all the powerful people he meets too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 01/25/2009
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Read the article yourself, you dimwit. It clearly states that neither Ratzinger, nor any member of his family, joined the Nazi Party. If you lived in Germany in 1933-45, you would likely have been a member of the Hitler Youth, also, if age appropriate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 01/25/2009
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Hypocrisy knows no bounds. And the more this Pope opens his mouth, the more I realize what a truly special human being and religious ambassador Pope John Paul II was. He transcended so many issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 01/25/2009

what's the big deal, nobody should be upset. He's just reaching out and being more inclusive. It was just wonderful for some of you people that Obama choose Warren for his inaugural but when it's some other hateful bigot, oh it's so terrible blah blah. Apparently hate speech is only hate speech when it effects you personally, other wise, it's reaching out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 01/25/2009
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Trite and childish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 01/25/2009

Of course you probably think you can dismiss criticism of Obama as "trite and childish". Lots of holocaust deniers think that the truth about the holocaust is "trite and childish". Hate is hate no matter who it comes from or what you believe to be trite and childish.

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Last I checked Rick Warren wasn't a holocaust denier. And if he was, you can bet your bottom dollar that he wouldn't have been seen anywhere near the Inauguration. And last I checked, Rick Warren's problem with gays is regarding marriage, not in their existence. This world has NO PLACE for holocaust deniers, glorifiers & revisionists. Some things should not be up for debate, this topic is one such thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 01/25/2009
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What a liberal bunch we have here! Hey, I suppose that the Bishop, and anyone else who would question the "official" version of the Holocaust should be burned at the stake? There are more than a few people who still believe that the facts of history are not determined by what is politically expedient. O.K., O.K.! Yes, calm down, there WAS a Holocaust -- but can't anyone question anything about it? Even Elie Wiesel changed his mind on a few earlier "facts".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 01/25/2009
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Stirner:

As you can probably guess, being liberal does not equal being tolerant, open minded and smart, or intellectual.

I've met many a conservative who is far more tolerant and open-minded than most of the liberals here on HuffPo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 01/25/2009
- JohnnyKay I'm a Fan of JohnnyKay 26 fans permalink

You from Crawford?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 01/25/2009
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 158 fans permalink

One can choose one's opinion, one cannot choose what is and what is not a fact. Unless one is a Catholic Bishop, or a Conservative blogger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 01/25/2009

On behalf of lapsed Catholics everywhere, I'd like to congratulate pope Benedict for taking a huge bold step back into the 17th century. Also his work reuniting with a group of ultra-radical while alienating the rest of humanity is fairly impressive.

You think that Christ's direct representative would have gotten better orders from on high.

Redonculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 01/25/2009
- DianeGhil I'm a Fan of DianeGhil 6 fans permalink

I recently left the catholic church after many years of listening to their dominance and authoritarian pronouncements and am looking at the church from a distance and wonder how I was duped for so many years.
They rule by FEAR, the pope has brought back the old authoritarian aspects before John Paul's gracious existence. He wants the old latin masses brought back after they all realized that saying the mass in the language of the parish makes all feel included and since we all know that benedict was a nazi, how surprised are we that he has embraced a bishop who blantantly tells the world the holocast did not exist?. This is far more serious than Obama selecting Warren - Obama did not select Warren for the cabinet but to mutter some utterance of prayers.
I will never return to the catholic church who allowed the abuse of our young boys by parish priests and placed more in harms way after these pedifiles were placed in another parish without notifying the unsuspecting parishoners. This was huge and many of my fellow catholics lost faith in this men-dominated, rich, money hungry clergy. Where can these men logically tell us that woman cannot be priests. What a lie they tell.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 01/25/2009
- JohnnyKay I'm a Fan of JohnnyKay 26 fans permalink

For your enlightenment, Bravo.

For the pain it took to get you here, my deepest sympathies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 01/25/2009

There sure is something wrong when one cannot even question things. It's a shame that this particular screams about anti sem. just because someone asks questions. It'd be like all of us believing everything the last US administration told us without asking questions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 01/25/2009
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 158 fans permalink

Bishops don't ask questions, they issue procalamations, and this particular Bishop was not asking any questions when he denied that the Holocaust happened.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 01/25/2009
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Question things you don't know or understand! Questioning if the Holocaust occured is like questioning if the Earth is really round or it orbits the Sun! And a former wearer of a N@zi uniform un-excommunicating a Holocaust denier...no news here!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 01/25/2009
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