Bishop Richard Williamson, Holocaust Denier, Reinstated By Pope (VIDEO)

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AP   |  NICOLE WINFIELD   |   January 24, 2009 03:38 PM

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VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI has lifted the excommunications of four traditionalist bishops, including that of a Holocaust denier whose rehabilitation sparked outrage among Jewish groups.

The four bishops were excommunicated 20 years ago after they were consecrated by the late ultraconservative Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre without papal consent _ a move the Vatican said at the time was an act of schism.

The Vatican said Saturday that Benedict rehabilitated the four as part of his efforts to bring Lefebvre's Society of St. Pius X back into the Vatican's fold.

But the move came just days after one of the four, British Bishop Richard Williamson, was shown in a Swedish state TV interview saying that historical evidence "is hugely against 6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed."

WATCH: Interview with Bishop Williamson


Jewish groups denounced the Vatican for having embraced a Holocaust denier and warned that the pope's decision would have serious implications for Catholic-Jewish relations as well as the pontiff's planned visit to the Holy Land later this year.

"I do not see how business can proceed as usual," said Rabbi David Rosen, Jerusalem-based head of interrelgious affairs at the American Jewish Committee and a key Vatican-Jewish negotiator.

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He called for the pope or a senior adviser to issue a "clear condemnation" of all Holocaust denials and deniers.

Shimon Samuels of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Paris said he understood the German-born pope's desire for Christian unity, but said Benedict could have excluded Williamson. He warned that his rehabilitation will have a "political cost" for the Vatican.

"I'm certain as a man who has known the Nazi regime in his own flesh, he understands you have to be very careful and very selective," Samuels said.

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said Williamson's views were "absolutely indefensible." But he denied that rehabilitating Williamson implied that the Vatican shared them.

"They are his personal ideas ... that we certainly don't share but they have nothing to do with the issue of the excommunication and the removal of the excommunication," Lombardi told AP Television News.

Williamson's comments cast a cloud over the pope's efforts to normalize relations with the Swiss-based Society of St. Pius X, which Lefebvre founded in 1969. Lefebvre was opposed to the liberalizing reforms of the 1962-65 Second Vatican Council, particularly its ecumenical outreach and its decision to allow Mass to be celebrated in local languages instead of Latin.

Despite concerns from liberal Catholics, Benedict has made clear from the start of his pontificate that he wanted to reintegrate the group back into the Vatican's fold, meeting within months of his election with the current head of the society, Bishop Bernard Fellay.

In 2007, Benedict answered one of Fellay's key demands by relaxing restrictions on celebrating the Latin Mass. In lifting the excommunication decree, he answered the society's second condition for beginning theological discussions about normalizing relations.

The decree from the Vatican's Congregation for Bishops said Benedict "remits" the automatic excommunication that the four bishops incurred and said the 1988 decree declaring their consecrations a schismatic act had no legal standing any longer.

In a statement Saturday, Fellay, who is one of the rehabilitated bishops, expressed his gratitude to Benedict and said the decree would help the whole Roman Catholic Church.

"Thanks to this gesture, Catholics attached to tradition throughout the world will no longer be unjustly stigmatized and condemned for having kept the faith of their fathers," Fellay said in a letter to his supporters.

Fellay, meanwhile, has distanced the society from Williamson's remarks about the Holocaust, saying Williamson only had authority to discuss matters of faith and that he was personally responsible for his own opinions.

But Fellay also berated Swedish state television, accusing it in a Jan. 21 letter of having introduced the Holocaust issue in the interview "with the obvious intention of misrepresenting and maligning," the society.

While Williamson's comments may be offensive and erroneous, they are not an excommunicable offense, said Monsignor Robert Wister, professor of church history at Immaculate Conception School of Theology at Seton Hall University in New Jersey.

"To deny the Holocaust is not a heresy even though it is a lie," he said. "The excommunication can be lifted because he is not a heretic, but he remains a liar."

The Society of St. Pius X, which is based in Menzingen, Switzerland, has six seminaries, three universities and 70 primary and secondary schools around the globe. Aside from the four bishops, it boasts 463 priests and 160 seminarians.

The status of the society's priests remains unsettled. While their ordinations are valid, the Church considers them "illicit" because they were ordained by someone who didn't have the authority, Lombardi said. Pope Paul VI suspended Lefebvre from priestly duties in 1976, but he continued ordaining priests illicitly.

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Associated Press Writer Alessandra Rizzo contributed to this report.

VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI has lifted the excommunications of four traditionalist bishops, including that of a Holocaust denier whose rehabilitation sparked outrage among Jewish groups. T...
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- janeinmia I'm a Fan of janeinmia 5 fans permalink

That's right, the former Ratzinger, a member of the Nazi Youth, was made pope in spite of the very strong appearance of impropriety. Now he is bringing a holocaust denier back into the church -- the plot sickens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 01/24/2009
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Can you provide links to this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 01/24/2009
- teacheng I'm a Fan of teacheng 4 fans permalink

Well, I was going to say that, but you beat me to it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 01/24/2009

Pope's a `traditionalist'. For a full millenium, generation of Jews in europe would know what that means. I hear he's been having a go the new US President too: bring it on, Josef.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 01/24/2009

Would you want your kid

To spend the night

With their Jesus !!!!!!

I think not !!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 01/24/2009
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"The whole thing is so patently infantile, so foreign to reality, that to anyone with a friendly attitude to humanity it is painful to think that the great majority of mortals will never be able to rise above this view of life. It is still more humiliating to discover how a large number of people living today, who cannot but see that this religion is not tenable, nevertheless try to defend it piece by piece in a series of pitiful rearguard actions."

Freud on Christianity

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 01/24/2009
- Kenji I'm a Fan of Kenji 18 fans permalink
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Amen to that. No, wait...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 01/24/2009
- Gasparilla I'm a Fan of Gasparilla 30 fans permalink

Never heard that, but oh so true. The old testament is a lot of fairy tales and half the American public buy them. There might be an afterlife, but it's not that one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 01/24/2009
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Could have just as easily been L. Ron Hubbard on Psychoanalysis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 01/24/2009

Fantasy and reality
Always kept a respectable distance
Until religion entered in
What the hell else would you expect
From a psychopath who insists

A child is born in sin...

Until you break beast from your neck, the truth will get no respect...­.

Tax the Church !!!!

Their idea of Heaven !!!!!

Was always Hell on Earth !!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 01/24/2009
- LangstonA I'm a Fan of LangstonA 3 fans permalink
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Does anyone on this board speak Swedish? If so, could you please visit YouTube or the website of the Swedish state tv channel which ran the interview with Bishop Williamson? I want to know for myself EXACTLY what he said and in context. After I heard the Rev. Wright sermon in it's entirety I was sad and disappointed about the manner in which his words were being framed. But that was a good experience in this regard? Now when I hear a religious figure supposedly said this or that inflammatory or hateful comment, I wait before making a judgment. I try to find out exactly what was said and in what context. For all I know Bishop Williamson may have said that historical evidence was hugely against six million Jews being killed in the gas chamber specifically though he may not be denying that six million Jews died as a result of tWWII in various manners of ghastly deaths. He could, for all I know, also be saying that six million people died, five million of whom were Jews and one million of whom were gypsies. Until I read or hear all of what he said in context, I withhold judgment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 01/24/2009
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The interview was in English. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHhdBzPH_zM
The bishop says that there were no gas chambers although there were 200,000 - 300,000 Jews perished in concentration camps, and none were gassed. He gives a convoluted explanation. Its funny that at the end of the interview he says that it is against the law to say these things in Germany (where the interview was held) and that he hopes that it isn't the interviewers intent to have him arrested.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 01/24/2009
- Enid I'm a Fan of Enid 9 fans permalink

Millions of Polish citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 01/24/2009
- hyjanks I'm a Fan of hyjanks 39 fans permalink

Don't know if this will help, but if you have or have access to Microsoft Word 7, under Review, you can paste anything in English and have it immediately translated into Swedish.
If you don't have access to Word 7, go to Worldlingo.com.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 01/24/2009

I too like to examine context. So often the reports are so much worse than the words. However, that doesn't appear to be the case here. The clip linked in the story above is the Bishop speaking in English. It pretty much lays it all out. He contradicts himself quite a bit (always a bad sign). First he implies that is "not 6 million" (as if to say it could have been less). Then later he acts as if no gassing could have happened at all. The only thing that is clear is that he is clueless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 01/24/2009
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You should watch this one again. Believe me what he says in these 5:47 minutes is pretty clear. You can't compare this with Rev Wright, where all we had was 3 second sounbites. He actually speaks in FULL sentences here, and even tells the interviewer that he could go to jail for what he says.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 01/24/2009
- bbbbmer I'm a Fan of bbbbmer 30 fans permalink
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I'm sure they have a few old 'traditionalists' amongst the basilicates that still tout the 'flat earth' as well...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 01/24/2009
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 176 fans permalink

They only recently forgave Galileo for saying otherwise.
Not admitted the truth, mind you, forgave galileo.
Delightful, isn;t it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 01/24/2009

Lefebvre was opposed to the liberalizing reforms of the 1962-65 Second Vatican Council, particularly its ecumenical outreach and its decision to allow Mass to be celebrated in local languages instead of Latin.
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That's kind of an interesting bit. Did Jesus speak to his disciples in Latin or some *local* language?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 01/24/2009
- thaneb I'm a Fan of thaneb 11 fans permalink
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Didn't Mel Gibson teach us it was Aramaic?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 01/24/2009
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Impressive. So tell me again, how many years after Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the church doors did the Vatican approve Mass in the local languages?

Leland R. Erickson

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PROTESTant

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 01/24/2009
- robiform I'm a Fan of robiform 19 fans permalink
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Jesus and his disciples spoke to each other in Aramaic, which was the "local" language (or, if you will, the vernacular) of the Jews who lived in Judea at that time in history.

Lefebvre was thisclose to being a Holocaust denier, so it's no surprise that one of the bishops he consecrated also subscribes to those lies!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 01/24/2009

Ironic that since the folks who killed Jesus spoke Latin and Italian. Now they are the keepers of Christ's message. Which is a bit like the Mafia being the defenders of civic virtue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 01/24/2009
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He spoke in Aramaic, which indeed was a "local" language.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 01/24/2009
- KeysDan I'm a Fan of KeysDan 23 fans permalink

Sounds like the schismatic church has a lot of cash and other resources. The "reconciliation" should assist in the Vatican's settling of all those altar boy lawsuits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 01/24/2009
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No surprises here form the same papacy that has brought humanity institutionalized willful ignorance, the Inquisition, the Vatican Ratline, and the institutionalized enabling, aiding, and abetting of pedophiles, all the while preaching against family planning, human rights for ALL of God's children, all the while claiming to have the mandate of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

*Hypocrisy* is neither a family value, nor a Christian virtue.

Hypocrisy incarnate, thou art, your UNHoliness.

Leland R. Erickson

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PROTESTant

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 01/24/2009
- JICC I'm a Fan of JICC 4 fans permalink
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Good for you! you, as a protestant, believe in just 95% of the nonsense! CONGRATS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 01/24/2009
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Well, La Di Dah. . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 01/24/2009
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 176 fans permalink

Word!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 01/24/2009

The dude was a member of the Nazi Youth. Is anyone surprised?
Infalability? I think not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 01/24/2009
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I'm with you on the infallibility. BUT-- to be accurate about the Hitler Youth, he was enrolled as was every 14-year-old was required to be. THe NYT had an article that stated he refused to attend meetings.

Talking about Hitler Youth is a red herring, but the question still remains about the re-instatement:
Why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 01/24/2009
- Paralogos I'm a Fan of Paralogos 11 fans permalink

Benedict is a doctrinal reactionary. I'm sure he was always somewhat sympathetic to the Lefebvrists. He's making a statement here that he's leading the Church in a rightward lurch. He thinks he's saving doctrinal purity, but a century from now, he may be seen as responsible for a period of massive decline for the Catholic Church.

Not that that would particularly bother me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 01/24/2009
- girlwild I'm a Fan of girlwild 23 fans permalink

As Ratzinger, he headed the old office of the Inquisition before it was renamed a long time ago. A fitting post for him.

I'm glad I wasn't raised Catholic. I no longer support any organized religion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 01/24/2009
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When the catholic church does something like reinstate a Holocaust denier it's not an abberation. It's just Tuesday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 01/24/2009
- Sepulchre I'm a Fan of Sepulchre 102 fans permalink
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I may be completely wrong, and if so I am sorry, but wasn't Pope Benedict XVI a member of the Hitler Youth when he was young (during WW2) ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 01/24/2009

You are not wrong. He was. Defenders have all sorts of excuses but in my view one should pay for that for the rest of life and not be rewarded with the papacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 01/24/2009

That would be like saying anyone who was a youth during the 1920s and 1930s should not be allowed to be Pope. Pretty much every youth in Germany was a member, it was not very optional and not joining tended to result in your parents getting fired, beaten up, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 01/24/2009
- TheImpaler I'm a Fan of TheImpaler 8 fans permalink
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He was just a kid and they all had to join. I would not hold that against him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 01/24/2009
- Cambridge9 I'm a Fan of Cambridge9 82 fans permalink
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And people wonder why I refuse to embrace a religion. The abuse of children by Catholic priests, and for that matter, my father's excommunication for having fathered two b@s.tard children after the church refused to marry my parents (my mother wasn't Catholic) and they married in another venue. The hate that results from one religion over another because "My god is better than your god!" The right to lifers who think nothing about sending young people to die in futile wars. The hypocritical attitude of those religious leaders who chastise their followers for their actions - only to commit the same sins. Catholics vs. fundamentalists vs. Allah, vs. Buddha and on and on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 01/24/2009
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Fortunately there are other Christian fellowships beside the RCC, or the evangelicals. Don't lump all of us into one boat. I left the Catholic Church after a priest made pronouncements about my marriage, and he hadn't even met my husband, but of course I could pay the fee to have a marriage tribunal to research his ex-wife, bla bla bla. I'd had my doubts for a while, but the Reformation became personal after that. Now I'm part of a United Methodist congregation, and happy with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 01/24/2009
- GingerB I'm a Fan of GingerB 82 fans permalink
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Just a clarification for you. Buddha is not a god, he is not the creator of the universe. He was a human teacher (guru) who acheived enlightenment. His followers do not worship him, they attempt to acheive enlightenment through his teachings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 01/24/2009
- GingerB I'm a Fan of GingerB 82 fans permalink
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Just a clarif.ica­tion for you. Bud.dha is not a g.od, he is not the crea.tor of the uni.verse. He was a hum.an tea.cher gu.ruu) who was said to have ache.ived enligh.ten­ment. His foll.owers do not wors.hip him, they att.empt to ache.ive enlight.en­ment through his tea.chings­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 01/24/2009
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 176 fans permalink

You have my utmost sympathy and respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 01/24/2009
- thaneb I'm a Fan of thaneb 11 fans permalink
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Joined Hitler youth in 1941. Membership said to have been compulsory. Issue was why he did not resist joining. Conscientious objectors were sent to concentration camps, e.g., Dachau so resistance was, to say the least, difficult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 01/24/2009

He is a coward, then. Cannot live by faith.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 01/24/2009
- pirx I'm a Fan of pirx permalink

Difficult yes, but also very Christian. OOPS, not supposed to introduce religious dogma into a discussion of religion. One more reason why I opted for the early retirement option (20 years and out) for Roman Catholicism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 01/24/2009
- hamchunk I'm a Fan of hamchunk 20 fans permalink

Because he was 14 years of age and many teenagers do not resist social norms in a fascist society.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 01/24/2009
- rzan1 I'm a Fan of rzan1 57 fans permalink

He indeed was, The Pope was/is a Nazi. The previous Pope tried to connect with people of the Jewish faith. The election of this one has changed any good that was done. I am so happy to no longer be a Catholic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 01/24/2009

I think Catholicism is silly, but your statement is patently untrue. In Germany during WWII ALL children had to join the Hitler Youth. And while Benedict is conservative, he does not that Aryans are the master race and that Eastern Europe should be conquered for Lebensraum. Ergo, not a Nazi.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 01/25/2009
- Freesia2 I'm a Fan of Freesia2 308 fans permalink

I'm not a Catholic. Just a Protestant with no patience for any holocaust denial. But that said, on the issue of him being a Hitler Youth, I don't know that it would be correct really to stigmatize any of the former members, especially the ones who were very young at the time.

When I was a little girl, I met a lovely older German woman who told me she had been in the group. It wasn't something you chose, it was something expected, and most parents were afraid to refuse. It took on the tone of a social club (I know, creepy) but it was something all kids did and they weren't consulted as to desire to join. They often didn't understand what it all meant. They were kids.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 01/24/2009
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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Corruption in the churches is so deeply rooted it's pathetic!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 01/24/2009

Wow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 01/24/2009
- Karl Jonas I'm a Fan of Karl Jonas 6 fans permalink

that ratzinger sure knows how to offend people!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 01/24/2009
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that ratzinger sure knows how to offend people!

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As a lapse Catholic, I see Pope rat as the guy who kills the Roman Catholic Church.

The man is a reactionary dinosaur who will achieve this by making it even more irrelevant than it already is.

Good job, Bennie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 01/24/2009
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 176 fans permalink

Why isn't Catholocism irrelevant yet? It is a medieval religion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 01/24/2009
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This was all predictable. No one has ever really challenged the Vatican's propaganda that Benedict was a completely unwilling member of the Hitler Youth. They just accepted the hogwash that his conservative Bavarian family opposed the Nazis all along. No one demanded to see the Hitler Youth records that remain under lock and key in Bavaria. If you even peeped a comment in challenge, the press screamed that you were just being anticlerical. Harrumph! Don't act all surprised.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 01/24/2009
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 140 fans permalink

There were many thousands of Germans who opposed the Nazis.

Willy Brandt, Chancellor of Germany from 1969 to 1974, had to live under an assumed name from 1933 because he was actively anti-Nazi.

Herr Ratzinger never opposed the Nazis, but he claims that his family didn't like them. Does he also claim that they never knew what was happening to Jews and others who were declared undesirable? Where is the moral leadership that one looks for in the head of one of the world's major religions? He was old enough at war's end (18) that he had been conscripted into the Wehrmacht, so he was old enough to give some sign of following a higher calling.

This Pope has by his latest actions shown that he is not only not a good moral leader, but that he is willing to turn a blind eye to immoral behavior, in the name of casting a wider net for the Catholic Church.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 01/25/2009
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