House Stimulus Bill (FULL TEXT) UPDATED

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January 24, 2009 11:12 AM

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UPDATE - February 12: The text of the House/Senate conference report of the stimulus package has been posted online. Here are the links:

Text of the Conference Report - Division A

Text of the Conference Report - Division B

Joint Explanatory Statement - Division A

Joint Explanatory Statement - Division B

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The 647-page House stimulus package scored the coveted designation of H.R. 1, which the Speaker reserves for her highest legislative or symbolic priority. The bill is a combination of legislation that moved this week through the Ways and Means, Energy and Commerce and Appropriations Committees. It is scheduled to be introduced Monday.

Below is a copy, obtained by the Huffington Post (we've uploaded the pdf here) and posted on the House Rules Committee website.

[UPDATE: Here's the amended version that passed the House.]

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Please take a look through the bill and let us know if you find anything noteworthy or surprising. Specifically, search for anything a little out of the ordinary, such as the section on page 14 that makes sure no money goes directly to Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich. That provision was introduced earlier as an amendment and it has made it into the final bill.

Or read through the oversight sections and the authority (and money) given to Government Accountability Office. Is it real oversight or are there wide loopholes?

John Maynard Keynes famously said that burying bottles of cash under ground would be a suitable -- if not ideal -- way of reducing unemployment. One person's bottle-burying earmark is another's job-creation project.

"If the Treasury were to fill old bottles with banknotes, bury them at suitable depths in disused coalmines which are then filled up to the surface with town rubbish, and leave it to private enterprise on well-tried principles of laissez faire to dig the notes up again . . . there need be no more unemployment," Keynes wrote in his work The General Theory. "It would indeed be more sensible to build houses and the like; but if there are political and practical difficulties in the way of this, the above would be better than nothing."

Is this stimulus burying bottles of cash? Or building houses and the like?

Again, send your thoughts and finds to submissions+stimulus@huffingtonpost.com.

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H.R. 1: House Stimulus Package - Free Legal Forms

PS: Don't have time to read all 647 pages? Shame, shame. Still, this bill is mostly a combination of bills moved through three major committees. Summaries of each section can be found here, here and here.

UPDATE - February 12: The text of the House/Senate conference report of the stimulus package has been posted online. Here are the links: Text of the Conference Report - Division A Text of th...
UPDATE - February 12: The text of the House/Senate conference report of the stimulus package has been posted online. Here are the links: Text of the Conference Report - Division A Text of th...
 
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The plan is good. It is easy to be negative, but to have an original thought or come up with a solution will never happen for those whom are constantly negative. The plan is not perfect however its an idea, something that has not happened in the last 8 idiot years. The home bailout plan i am not sure about, the natural market must dictate and fix where this problem started, in the peoples homes, prices went thru the ceiling and people took advantage of this, greed took over, now the average person can not afford an average home. The natural market must work to make homes affordable, any quick fix will just prolong home problems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 02/21/2009

this is gayyyyyyyy­yyyyyyyyyy­yyyyyyyyyy­yyyyyyyyyy­yyyyy!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!! haha bye tony donahue

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 02/18/2009

A Rod took performanc­e-enhancin­g drugs. Any chance the Democrats to try some to enhance their performance?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 02/17/2009
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WOW, 99 out of 100 of you all are crying becauce there is not enough bucks in here for ME or they gave too many bucks to someone else or my kids will be broke someday. Are your kids still paying for WWII? NO! We did not get moving until WWII. We had our (USA) lost decade in the 1930 when we did not spend enough. After WWII everyone had enough to pay off their debt and buy new stuff. Where was the inflation? Where? I purchased gum for a 5 cents in 1952 and in 1969! What are you all crying about. Most of you have NO data to support your "bad dreams"! Get back to work. We need to rebuild the USA. Get our get ready for the long run! Don't tell them things will be better in the morning. If they work hard and long - things will get better - OVER TIME. Simle, you are on the right side of the grass:). Use this Stimulus to rebuild America - NOW! Caio

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 02/14/2009

you need to look through your history and come to the same reality I have.Our government has taken our money waged war,provided assistant,so on and so forth.You'­d probably see that the United States has only been at peace for about 15- 20 years since 1790.Don't get me wrong I've got one brother who served in Iraq for a year.I'm a patriot and supporter of our troops.The real QUESTION you should be asking yourself is where is all the money we've paid in every week gone too.Tennes­see had a budget of 27 billion dollars.13 billion of it was state taxes.Wher­e did the other part come from?The government.
so lets really talk about the problem not bubble bum....hah­ahaha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 02/15/2009

This bill is ridiculous! We need to slash all the extra spending. This stimulus is supposed to be to help the American people that are paying for it!!!! We gave the banks money and they didn't open up lending, they blew big money on the superbowl and tried to buy jets and stadiums. Start with the mortgage crisis and the people that need help. The jobs that are going to open in 2010 aren't going to help us. I'm ashamed of our government for passing such a wasteful bill. CHOP IT DOWN and bring it to the people for a vote.

This is a tragedy and our great grandchildren will be paying the bill!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 02/14/2009

Here's my "Stimulus Plan"

1. Did you file a tax return last year? If yes go to question 3, if no go to question 2.
2. Sorry you do not qualify.
3. Did you earn or recieve more than $250,000 last year? If yes go to question 2, if no go to question 4.

4. You will receive a $100,000 check in the mail with in 90 days. This check will be tax free and will not need to be reported on your 2009 tax forms. Your State, County, and Local government cannot tax this money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 02/13/2009

So for those of us that never received a W2 from their employer last year, contacted the employer on a weekly basis, contacted the IRS on several occasions, and still never heard anything promising on getting the necessary information for filing taxes, though we would have gotten EVERYTHING back, we don't apply for any stimulus?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 AM on 02/17/2009
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I looked over a few sections of it. It seems like their is a lot more then just financial intervention in the health care area. The bill is probably going to nationalize a lot of the Healthcare system and have government intervention on how to treat chronic diseases. I have to read more of it, but I don't really agree with it.
Then my second dilemma is the amount of money going to highway infrastructure. Where does the toll money go to, besides the insanely high toll collector salaries(9­0,000/pr/y­r)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 02/09/2009

Are you high? Toll collectors make peanuts, and those come from, I don't know, the TOLLS.

http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-Toll+Collector

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 02/12/2009

I wish that was what toll collectors here in Massachusetts were making. A part-time collector makes 32k a year. Full time get 53k a year. With overtime + benefits included it averages out to about 70k per person.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 02/13/2009

My knee jerk reaction is that it is a multi-agency bill. It appears that each agency will have the oversight for their piece. What I do not see is the super-agency oversight role that I couldn't see clearly defined. Basically, the buck stops with President Obama who has his cabinet under which there are the agencies. Am not sure who actually is in charge of oversight other than President Obama. It almost seems like we need "the man who would be king" in charge of the whole thing. After all, President Obama has other things to do. This king would orchestrate the agencies with certain governance tools. I do hope we don't build somethings for which there is no application for such infrastructure. Case in point, a rocket launching pad for which we do not have a rocket or a place for the rocket to go and find some interesting stuff.
I haven't dug into the details for each domain yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 01/28/2009

In the preamble of the bill the last 4 words are: for other purposes.
sound like a blank check to do whatever.
Some of the names that introduced this bill brings ethics and oversight, or maybe a better word would be overlook, into question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 01/27/2009
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One possible interpretation of the phrase "for other purposes" is indeed "a blank check to do whatever." But another possible interpretation is "for other good ideas we haven't thought of yet, because we aren't so arrogant that we assume we already have all the possible good ideas in the world." Because we aren't talking about George Walker Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney, and because the disbursements of this spending to specific projects will be published online for all to see, I suspect the latter rather than the former.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 02/05/2009

Wow only read 10 pages and there's already $200,000,000 just for oversight.
We have to use American Steel (even if it's more expensive, up to 25% more)
Theres the 3% of $2.5 Billion for administrative costs ($75 Million, just to Dept of Agriculture)in addition to above.

Why do we need to pay so much for oversight when these inspectors already work there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 01/26/2009
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Hey Rocketman,
I think forcing new construction projects to use American Steel is a great way to provide even more income to Americans. One of the major problems we have had in some sectors is cheap materials, cheap oil, and cheap labor that have sent all of our work, food, and technological progress overseas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 02/06/2009

Don't forget our Ridiculously high corporate taxes as another reason for our jobs going overseas!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 02/14/2009

Because there is not enough oversight in our industries! Are you forgetting about the collapsing bridges and tunnels? The rotten food and dangerous products that we have been dished under W's watch? Do you want to not trust what you are given? Oversight is necessary and YES it creates jobs!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 02/13/2009

Of course there is adminstrative costs, when the government gets involved in our freedom the Democrats screw it up. They spend spend spend. Don't worry, with all the welfare and nationalized healthcare, you can continue to work hard so the lazy unmoviated people in this country can have the same benefits as you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 02/13/2009
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Wow, what a treat. We get to see legislation before it is rammed down our throats.

Usually the lobbyists, as was the practice under Bush, don't even let the Congress critters read the bills before they are voted on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 01/26/2009

AAAHHHHHHH I Don't think anyone who voted for this bill read it.Do you??????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 02/13/2009
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 40 fans permalink
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all you tax cutters out there, i am not sttupid, all bush did was cut taxes, and shrink and underfund the govt, now we have massive fallout everywhere, 500k jobs lost per month over the last 3-5 months,
those tax breaks for the rich didn't create ONE DAM SUSTAINABLE JOB FOR 8 YRS OF GW BUSH, SO WHY CONTINUE TO RAM MY HEAD INTOT HSI BRICK WALL, OH FYI INTEREST RATES ARE SO LOW THAT THE FED IS NEGATIVE AND THE DAM BANKS got their capital, and still will not lend, but CITI BANK BOUGHT A 50 MILLION JET.
WITH TAX PAYER DOLLARS.
WHERE IS THE JUSTICE IN THAT
cant he taxpayers get anything out of this whole debacle
or was the whole goal to make their two classes of peopel rich and broke as hell

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 01/26/2009
- slarabee I'm a Fan of slarabee 27 fans permalink
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I commend you on seeing the biggest part of the problem with GOP control.

During the Reagan years we saw a dramatic shift of wealth.

See:

http://www3.niu.edu/~td0raf1/history468/apr0406.htm

We have seen the same dramatic shift of wealth during the Bush years which is evidenced by the declining middle class of the last 8 years. it should be noted that a continuous debate swirls around such theories. The elite like to publish article in the WSJ calling the decline of the middle class a myth.

Still there are many statisitcs that show this disparity clearly.

See: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0817-02.htm

I myself simply look at the average CEO's pay compared to the GOP's call for lower workers wages. Common sense goes along way toward cutting through the Bull$h1t

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 01/26/2009
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We liberals need to talk about "disposable income" in every discussion of tax policy and hire only representatives who will do likewise, EVERY single time taxes are mentioned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 02/05/2009

I've heard angry comments about "Bush's tax breaks for the rich" since the bill was introduced. Over and over the print and television media has told us that his plan only helped the rich. But, what did the Bush tax cuts actually do and how did they affect everyone? I'm guessing you'll be surprised as this aspect of the story was not well reported. Bush got a lot of things wrong (heck - he was leading this recent crusade against capitalism), but his tax cuts are not one of them.

Summary of the 'Bush's tax breaks for the rich':
-They created a MORE progressive tax policy.
-They were not just for the rich!
-All income brackets (including those who weren't paying any taxes at all) received a tax cut.
-The wealthiest 20% of the population took on a greater share of the federal tax burden after the cuts (82% after vrs. 78% before).

For a nice and more detailed look at the Bush Tax Cuts:
http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_luskin/luskin200408170858.asp

You should thank the rich rather than vilify them. If it wasn't for the rich, who would pay for your massive government? Who would employ you? Who would create the television shows, movies and music that entertain us and give us a break from reality? Who would hire the athletes that astound us with their amazing feats?

P.S. - How is an infrastructure creation job sustainable? How many new bridges do we really need?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 01/31/2009
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Nice try, but the publication date of that article is part of the URL. What "luskin200­408170858.­asp" tells me is that all these claims of yours
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-MORE progressive tax policy.
-They were not just for the rich!
-The wealthiest 20% of the population took on a greater share of the federal tax burden after the cuts (82% after vs. 78% before).
]

... are true ONLY in comparison to Bush's previous tax cuts for the over-privileged, which he knew were irresponsible to maintain in any part during a spending deficit, but only PARTIALLY rolled back. He was duty bound, by his oath to promote the general welfare, to ELIMINATE those tax cuts, but for purely political reasons, he only reduced them.
[
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0DE3DD163AF931A25751C0A9659C8B63
Alan Greenspan, the Federal Reserve chairman, today rebutted many of President Bush's arguments in favor of big new tax cuts, saying that the economy probably does not need any short-term stimulus and warning that budget deficits could spiral out of control.
]

Google
senate.gove.gov bush tax cuts greenspan

If you do your homework you will unequivocally see that cutting taxes for the most privileged US citizens then only partially restoring their tax rates when he began running spending deficits, is not a matter of "20/20 hindsight," but just another blatant case of George Walker Bush willfully pursuing his political agenda in direct contradiction to the best available intelligence on that matter at that time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 02/05/2009

The rich are not paying for my "massive" paper tiger government that is all face and no substance. Our government cleraly is not working for us. This is not because it is over-funded, but because it has been bled dry by contractors and deregulation and zombiefied by wealthy lobbies. The rich pay less in taxes than the working class, overall.

P.S. Who knows how many bridges and roads we need, but guess what, they need to be repaired and maintained! Do you remember the collapse of our infrastructure? Yeah, that was because of thinking like yours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 02/13/2009

Predsiden Clintion is who to blame. He reduced our military and increased taxes. He got richer and I didn't. Then he allowed many terriost attacks on this country even on our soil. At leas Bush put an end to it for now. But don't worry, after we end the war, it will be just like the clintion administration, well actually most of them are Obamas advisiors. Let America free enterprise work it self out. Just remember, the 50 million dollar jet that citibank bought, kept people working, kept an airline company in business and stimulated the global economy. What do you think the 900,000,000,000 dollars is going to be spent on? Welfare, hosing for the people who cant afford it, healthcare for people who don't have jobs and don't want one? Is any of your money going to go back into your pocket?
As you also mentioned, the economy started to tank around the time we learned Obama was going to be our next President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 02/13/2009
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It seems to me to be very specific in dollar amounts and dates and uses for the money. I don't know if other economic bills are this straightforward and "clean," free from pork, amendments and apparent loopholes. I would think that with some ability to track the funds, it would go where intended and do some good in those areas ... without getting somehow sidetracked or lost and wasted.

I don't see any stipulation as in the Bush-Paulson bailout that says the disbursement of the money can't be questioned­....

I think it targets the bottom-to-middle of society that has been sorely neglected over many years. It's like patching the holes in the foundation of our economy that holds it all together.

Bravo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 01/26/2009
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"How funds are spent, all announcements of contract and grant competitions and awards, and formula grant allocations will be posted on http://www.Recovery.gov

Program managers will also be listed so the public knows who to hold accountable.

Governors, mayors or others making funding decisions must personally certify that the investment has been fully vetted and is an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars. This will also be placed on the recovery website.

Public notification of funding must include a description of the investment funded, the purpose, the total cost and why the activity should be funded with recovery dollars.

A Recovery Act Accountability and Transparency Board will be created to review management of recovery dollars and provide early warning of problems."

http://appropriations.house.gov/pdf/PressSummary01-15-09.pdf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 01/26/2009

Sure, it all sounds good on paper, but who is going to follow up and see if any of it is true?

Oh, is my tax dollard going to pay for this?

Cut the PORK OUT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 02/13/2009

This pork bill is sickening. Why is $50M being given to an art exhibition? How is that stimulating the economy? Why am I being forced to pay for the government's new "green" cars when I can't even afford one? How is that stimulating? How is putting down sand at the mall in Washington stimulating my state? This is nothing but every single crooked democrat in congress sneaking in their own pork. I can say this because I have been watching the debate on the "stimulus" plan on cspan and it disgusts me to no end. It has been stated that the republicans were shut out of any decision making on this pork plan. I say do it and when it fails the democrats will have no one to blame but themselves. The republicans want the american people to keep more of their money, to eliminate payroll taxes and to lower capital gains taxes so businessess don't have to lay off people and will have more of an incentive to hire people with lower taxes, no wonder businessses move from the United States to Europe. Can any of you name who has been in charge of congress in the past two years (all the economic problems started at this time...DEM­OCRATS) We have had a spiraling donward economy ever since Pelosi became speaker and if Barney Frank (D), Carter and Clinton hadn't created the subprime mortgage crisis we wouldn't be in this mess.. Thank you Democrats for this disaster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 01/27/2009

Are you related to that other reichw!ng lunatic, jazzman? You sure sound like him. heh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 01/27/2009
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Tell us MORE about the "exhibition"
Send me an email about it.
Thanks
Gmail.comail.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 02/13/2009
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KJ = Every Year the Govt buys cars
NOW they will buy GREEN

GOOD FOR THEM.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 02/13/2009

If you want to stimulate the economy, drop tax withholdings by 50% starting next week.

Let the American people decide which companies will survive, not entrenched politiicians and this massive pork bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 01/26/2009
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Those that spend money the fastest per-capita are those on the lowest 20%, as they have no savings, no ability to generate savings. Their tax withholdings are negligible. Cutting theirs by half, yet with them making up 40% of the instant payoff, frankly, would do nobody any good.

A swing and a miss. Please, try again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 01/26/2009

Nice try.

Incent spending by disinecenting saving.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 01/26/2009
- slarabee I'm a Fan of slarabee 27 fans permalink
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Historically in difficult times such as these cutting taxes does not lead to increased spending, it leads to increased savings. Which does not help the economy in the short term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 01/26/2009

Isn't spending what got us into this whole situation in the first place? Deficit spending on the federal, state and personal level got us into the situation. It was all fake and funded with artificial home equity and credit cards. You can only deny reality for so long ...

Increased savings (and investment) is the answer, not increased spending.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 01/31/2009

Why not split it up into a bunch of shorter and more manageable bills? Every reactionary wingnut who'll never give up the idea that prosperity is just a tax cut away can find something to criticize here. The cumulative effect of all the criticism is negative. Less complex legislation that a Republican and even a normal person can understand. Now there's change we can believe in!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 AM on 01/26/2009
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I agree. This should be about job creation period If they want to do tax cuts that should be in a separate bill. So much pork .. so many pigs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 01/26/2009
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Where exactly is the pork? Please point it out to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 01/26/2009
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Think the problem with trying to pass a stimulus package in a series of bills rather than one big bill is that it would allow the GOP to call for couture and filibuster the individual bills easily and in some cases quietly. It would also be hard to get multiple bills done quickly.
I believe the Dems and The President believe that we are at a tipping point with the economy and desperately want to avoid a depression. I for one agree with them. A depression in this era would be far harder to rebound from than the great depression era. I have 2 kids and do not want them to live in a third world country, fiscally, technologically and scientifically.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 01/26/2009

The dems and the president (Bush at that time) gave us this same 'If we don't act now ...' reasoning three months ago to pass TARP. That sure did a lot of good. A stimulus package is not going to fix the economy. Government intervention in the housing market started this and more government intervention will not fix this.

For your kids sake I hope that American principles of individual freedom and capitalism can survive this economic downturn and this administration. If we keep accelerating towards socialism there won't be any difference between the U.S. and a third world country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 01/31/2009
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Got to get the money into the economy right away.

We have states that can't make their Medicaid payments to hospitals, and hospitals that are closing their doors due to bankruptcy.

We have people who have lost their jobs, whose unemployment benefits are running out.
We have people who have lost their jobs, whose COBRA heathcare benefits are running out.

Local schools are cutting back classes, laying off teachers, and stopping school transportation.

The country is near collapse. It can't wait.

Do a bunch of bills and nothing will get done 'till September.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 01/26/2009
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Many hospitals and health care centers in this country are in bankruptcy, near bankruptcy, or near closing because they can't recover from bankruptcy.

As an example, in New Jersey since 2007 over 10 hospitals have closed their doors, and five hospitals went into bankruptcy in 2007.In Hawaii, almost every is in trouble with two having declared bankruptcy last year, and one closing due to bad debt.

States have cut back Medicaid payments for services provided to the poor and unemployed due to budget shortfalls because taxe revenues have fallen. More Hospitals are expected close their doors this year.

If we are going to reform the Health Care system sometime in the next year, it might be a good idea to keep the Health Care System from falling apart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 01/26/2009
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you know what the conservatives say to that right
"YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN"
here is a tax cut and sum 5.00 gas.
and food poisioning, and no healthcare to assist.
"YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN"
cause i am sellng our Ports to China right under your nose.
"yea thats alot right wing" your whole philosophy is so wrong and tainted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 01/26/2009

Why doesn't congress split the stimulus money between democrats and the republicans in congress, even make it 60/40 since they are the majority, to enforce their own stimulus recovery plan. At the end of 6 months the two will be judged and the one that has stimluted the economy more will be the one to go with. This is fair and balanced and both sides of the isles can only blame themselves if their plan goes wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 01/27/2009

Excellent Jazz!!!

This is simply the best solution I've heard throughout all this crapola! Unfortunately, it's a good idea. Good ideas have been doomed for the last 25 years. We went from a Republic to a Democracy and now we are entering the auspices of Oligarchy. Thanx jazz.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 02/13/2009
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