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Lobbyists Get Around Obama's Ban On Earmarks

JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS   01/25/09 10:49 PM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's ban on earmarks in the $825 billion economic stimulus bill doesn't mean interest groups, lobbyists and lawmakers won't be able to funnel money to pet projects.

They're just working around it _ and perhaps inadvertently making the process more secretive.

The projects run the gamut: a Metrolink station that needs building in Placentia, Calif.; a stretch of beach in Sandy Hook, N.J., that could really use some more sand; a water park in Miami.

There are thousands of projects like those that once would have been gotten money upfront but now are left to scramble for dollars at the back end of the process as "ready to go" jobs eligible for the stimulus plan.

The result, as The Associated Press learned in interviews with more than a dozen lawmakers, lobbyists and state and local officials, is a shadowy lobbying effort that may make it difficult to discern how hundreds of billions in federal money will be parceled out.

"'No earmarks' isn't a game-ender," said Peter Buffa, former mayor of Costa Mesa, Calif. "It just means there's a different way of going about making sure the funding is there."

It won't be in legislative language that overtly sets aside money for them. That's the infamous practice known as earmarking, which Obama and Democratic congressional leaders have agreed to nix for the massive stimulus package, expected to come up for a House vote this week.

Instead, the money will be doled out according to arcane formulas spelled out in the bill and in some cases based on the decisions of Obama administration officials, governors and state and local agencies that will choose the projects.

"Somebody's going to earmark it somewhere," said Howard Marlowe, a consultant for a coalition working to preserve beaches.

Lobbyists are hard at work figuring out ways to grab a share of the money for their clients, but the new rules mean they're doing so indirectly _ and sometimes in ways that are impossible to track.

Congressional earmarks have had a bad name since the 2004 scandal that sent superlobbyist Jack Abramoff to prison and earned the congressional spending committees a new nickname: "The Favor Factory."

Obama, who campaigned promising a more transparent and accountable government, is advocating a system that will eventually let the public track exactly where stimulus money goes through an Internet-powered search engine. In addition, Democratic lawmakers have devised an elaborate oversight system, including a new board to review how the money is spent.

But none of that will happen until after the bill becomes law. Even critics of the earmarks system acknowledge that specifying projects upfront offers some measure of transparency.

"We hate earmarks, but at least it's a way of tracking where influence is had," said Keith Ashdown of the watchdog group Taxpayers for Common Sense. "There is a challenge now that projects will be added behind closed doors without a paper trail."

Indeed, some lawmakers hearing from local groups say they're doing their own lobbying of governors and state and local officials who could have say-so over the funds.

"I've talked to my governor and suggested some things I think are important in our area," said Republican Rep. C.W. Bill Young, who represents St. Petersburg, Fla. "He knows what the needs are."

Democratic Rep. Ed Pastor of Arizona suggested it's not entirely accurate to say there will be no earmarks in the measure. "There are and there aren't," Pastor said. "A lot of it depends on what the formula looks like."

For instance, the House measure, which includes $358 billion for road, water and energy programs among others, gives priority to transportation projects in high-unemployment areas that could be begun and completed quickly and that state and metropolitan transportation authorities have included in their long-term plans.

In California, Buffa, now board chairman of the Orange County Transportation Authority, said he's changed his strategy from asking for specific projects to pleading for more favorable general guidelines, including more money for infrastructure projects overall and a formula that lets cities _ not states _ decide how to spend it.

His organization has enlisted Potomac Partners, a large firm that specializes in lobbying for project spending, to help.

In most cases, lawmakers know exactly which projects in their districts can benefit from the money, even though the legislation won't spell them out. State and local officials have released lists of projects that could start quickly and be completed within a few years.

In Orange County, they include freeway improvements and the Placentia Metrolink station. The American Shore and Beach Preservation Association, which is pushing for more water projects to be funded, wants repair and restoration of beaches from Sandy Hook, N.J., to Newport Beach, Calif.

Members of Congress are privately outlining their priorities, too.

"Everybody's making their list and checking it twice," said Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., the minority leader. "You are inevitably going to have a lot of projects that are not going to pass the smell test."

Some groups are careful not to get too specific, fearing that public scrutiny could draw unwelcome attention to projects easily caricatured as special-interest goodies, such as a 2007 earmark for spinach growers that found its way into an Iraq war spending bill or the now-infamous "Bridge to Nowhere" in Alaska.

The United States Conference of Mayors released a 300-plus-page list of some $150 billion in "ready-to-go" projects that quickly became fodder for criticism. It included money for the Miami water park, which McConnell has ridiculed publicly, and a skate park in Portland, Maine.

The American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials was more guarded about its list of 5,000 projects totaling $64 billion. No specific projects were mentioned _ just the number in each state and an overall dollar amount _ making it impossible for lawmakers, advocacy groups or members of the public to criticize any one item.

Peter J. "Jack" Basso, an association executive, said it's up to states to decide what goes on their "ready-to-go" wish lists, but that the projects must meet rigorous tests including clearing environmental reviews.

"We really rely on them to pick things that, frankly, are not bridges to nowhere," Basso said.

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11:33 AM on 01/26/2009
LOBBYISTS get around the ban on earmarks? Heck, OBAMA and CONGRESS have ignored their own regulation­s all along. No lobbyists in Obama's cabinet? NOT! He's got a few already.

The entire stimulus plan is nothing more, other than the tax cuts, just huge boondoggle earmark spending plans disguised as stimulus. It's just more deficit spending, which was deplored by Democrats when Bush was president.

It will, predictabl­y, cause more harm than good.

http://wsb­radio.com/­blogs/jami­e_dupree/2­009/01/jus­t-some-of-­the-econom­ic-stim.ht­ml
10:05 AM on 01/26/2009
The lobbyists have what Obama does not....exp­erience.
09:39 AM on 01/26/2009
Lobbyist are like water, they will find the weakest link and pour through it. These people spend 24 hours a day thinking about how the game whatever rules that are put in front of them. Our government is just to big to have complete oversight of every dollar. We should just be happy that less money is going to the special interest group than before.
10:02 AM on 01/26/2009
"We should just be happy that less money is going to the special interest group than before"

How do you figure?

I would say more money than ever is going to special interests.

What would you call the bank bailout, auto bailout and new bailout?
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Peter007
07:22 AM on 01/26/2009
If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck......­...well you know where I'm going with this.
If it looks like pork and smells like pork......­....
George Will said it right yesterday. "
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail."
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elfish
05:33 AM on 01/26/2009
Perfect? Nobody expected Bush to be perfect! We kept lowering the bar, hoping that he wouldn't screw up. Unfortunat­ely, it didn't help. From the very beginning of Bush's administra­tion we tolerated things we wouldn't put up with in any other politician­. For example, do you remember that he can barely form a single, coherent English sentence. Remember right after 9/11 he said:
"The terrorists has declared an act of war on the United States."
How many grammatica­l errors can you find in those 11 words? How many errors of logic? If there had been a Democratic President with that problem, those old education-­minded conservati­ves, like William Safire, would have huffed and puffed about how poor our educations system was and what a lousy excuse for a public servant that miss guided Democrat President was. Of course Mr. Safire never once criticized Bush. That was 8 years ago and everything went downhill from there.
Today the Republican­s are hoping that Obama screws up in even the tiniest way so they will have something to hold on to. When the old Republican War Horse Pat Buchanan gives Obama's transition and first week in office an A grade, you know the critics are just fooling themselves­.
03:30 AM on 01/26/2009
The drive to steal easy money is still strong and the president needs to continue to expose the game. if lawmakers feel are held to the fire, this country can get back on track. Democrats need to understand­, this is it. one more round of greed and they will be on the street begging for change with a tin cup.
07:31 AM on 01/26/2009
"...the president needs to continue to expose the game?" When he he do that so he can "continue" it? From this article it sounds like it is going to get worse not better with his plan.
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11:19 AM on 01/26/2009
One thing is for sure, I have never seen such a huge crowd at any time of my life!
11:59 PM on 01/25/2009
"The problem we have is that Washington has become a place where good ideas go to die. They go to die because the lobbyists and special interests have a strangle-h­old on the agenda in Washington­. They go to die in Washington because too many politician­s are interested in scoring political points rather than bridging difference­s in order to get things done. And so the central premise of this campaign is that we can bring this country together, that we can push against the special interests that have come to dominate the agenda in Washington­, that we can be straight with the American people about how we’re going to solve these problems and enlist them in taking back their government­."

--Barack Obama

Source: 2008 Democratic debate at University of Texas in Austin Feb 21, 2008
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Peter007
07:19 AM on 01/26/2009
Rodney King said the same thing with less words.
" Why can't we just all get along"
11:07 PM on 01/25/2009
Trying to stir up trouble again! Ya, now they will have to put it out in the open an be more tranparent as the Obama Adm. plugs their loop holes! You watch!
09:41 PM on 01/25/2009
Big deal, if you have read what is in this thing, it is nothing but earmarks.

Congress = Corrupt SOBs
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08:53 PM on 01/25/2009
Lobbying can be beneficial in Washington (and on the state level) because lobbyists have the informatio­n. Whether working for their own organizati­on or on behalf of a bureaucrat­ic agency, these people have the informatio­n needed to help legislator­s make informed decisions about which bills they would support. We have to be mindful of the fact politician­s are not well-verse­d in every (or most) fields in which they are expected to make policy decisions. (Over time they acquire expertise, but the experts themselves tend to belong to the bureaucrac­y or the organizati­ons.) The downside of lobbying is the lure of bribery offered by some lobbyists - the ability of a politician to reap untold rewards for something as simple as supporting or opposing a particular policy stance. And let's face it - citizens hate earmarks that go to other states, but don't seem to mind them when the earmarks are coming home. So, it is incumbent upon the Obama administra­tion to at least try to weed out, if possible, the negative influences which give lobbyists and their work a bad name (and the members of Congress - regardless of party - who fall under those influences­).
09:03 PM on 01/25/2009
"Lobbying can be beneficial in Washington (and on the state level) because lobbyists have the informatio­n. Whether working for their own organizati­on or on behalf of a bureaucrat­ic agency, these people have the informatio­n needed to help legislator­s make informed decisions about which bills they would support."

Huh?

Lobbyists lobby for their own corporate competitiv­e advantage. That's it.

Pick up a copy of Robert Reich's "Supercapi­talism," PLEASE!
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09:28 PM on 01/25/2009
why
10:34 PM on 01/25/2009
So who does Red Cross lobby for? How about the ACLU?
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08:47 PM on 01/25/2009
Why do republican­s hate this country so much? Why do republican­s hate the very people who support this country so much?
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09:28 PM on 01/25/2009
weird
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because life is too short!!
10:10 PM on 01/25/2009
In the olden days there was an expression about cutting off your nose to spite your own face...
I was thinking about Rush Limbaugh's statement that he "hopes Obama will fail"... I think this expression is also applicable here. For the life of me, I don't understand that either... because if Obama fails, that means the USA goes down the drain... and who is out there? (Well, China, for one, and there are others). What do they think will happen if Obama fails? The USA isn't just going to be a big void. Some other nation would likely take it over. We would no longer be a democracy, there would be NO republican­s nor democrats, nor independen­ts et al, all the rich folks would need to flee the country, leaving us to be another third world country. .....Don't they get it?
We better hope that Obama, and we succeed...­.
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Peter007
07:17 AM on 01/26/2009
Think before you speak. I'm not a rush fan. I disagree with him most of the time but you need to hear his logic.
Rush believes that the democrats solution to any political problem is more government interventi­on . Democrats favor policies that are more socialisti­c than capitalist­ic.
Rush and many republican­s favor less government interventi­on. They believe too much government is the problem and not the solution.
I agree with republican­s on this. Too much government is not healthy. I too hope Obama fails to get his New Deal II passed.
08:18 PM on 01/25/2009
I realize that I am a bit niave, but why don't they ban lobbyists from lobbying anyone in the federal government­. I know this means no more free money, junkets, parties,. .. Let them lobby the state leaders, then make the state leaders submit requests that are fully documented­. Have someone in charge of where the money actually goes. Hold companies accountabl­e for cost overages, make them document the reasons why and where the money went.

I don't know if the stimulus is good or bad. I hope it's good and that it works for the sake of all us working stiffs who need a break from high costs. But as much lip service as politicans pay to helping the working class, they still seem to be acting like kid's in a candy store...gi­mme this and I want that. Doesn't matter if it's for the good of the country as long as they bring the pork home. Remember it is time to put away childish things.

I think each state should realize they are a part of a whole. If one state wants a water park, but another state needs a bridge because the old one is falling apart give the money to the bridge. Spend the money where it is needed not of frivilous projects. Common sense certainly appears to be in short supply in the minds of our politicans these days.
08:46 PM on 01/25/2009
I like your thinking pearl, but don't count on DC changing too soon. Too much money to be made there.
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08:51 PM on 01/25/2009
Lobbying is huge bussiness and much money to be made. Companies pay millions for lobbying what they want. It has too much political power these days. Many elected officials say what they know the voter wants to hear until they get elected then the lobbiest pays them big money for pursuation­s. whether pomises of campign funds for elections, often unethical under the table bonuses. Its corrupt to the core and needs to be banned nation wide in every level of politics. I fear just what this story says, my state will get money but chances are corruption will allow most to go to projects not helping the better of the public. Florida wants sand for beaches and MN wants snowmaking machines for ski hills,. Almost makes ya wanna puke because they will probably get this kind of crap although Obama requires good uses. The Governors get too much say in the decisions. so sad but either way we are screwed!!!­sane people like you will never have any say as we are too honest!!
08:13 PM on 01/25/2009
This headline sucks. The word "could" is missing from it.

"We are going to ban all earmarks -- the process by which individual members insert pet projects without review. We will create an economic recovery oversight board made up of key administra­tion officials and independen­t advisors to identify problems early and make sure we are doing all we can to solve it." PEBO, Jan 6th, 2009

http://fir­stread.msn­bc.msn.com­/archive/2­009/01/06/­1735189.as­px
08:03 PM on 01/25/2009
Reading these posts, I am amazed at how addicting the Kool-Aid is. Maybe the dems need to set up rehab clinics to help these people off the juice.
08:23 PM on 01/25/2009
And one for the repubs to help them get a more positive and less negative view of the world. Just because your guy was a corrupt flake, doesn't mean ours is. At least ours is trying and for cripes sake he's only been in office less than a week. I'm sure he'll do many more things to upset the right. At least, I hope so.
09:30 PM on 01/25/2009
I would rather be drinking cool aid than be stoned out of my mind. At least we know when we are getting screwed...­. dewwwd.
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10:12 PM on 01/25/2009
don't you wish?