Fears Grow That US Could Become Isolated In Afghanistan

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The Independent   |  Kim Sengupta and Raymond Whitaker   |   January 26, 2009 09:05 AM

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President Barack Obama is facing warnings that the US risks repeating some of its errors in Iraq as the new administration turns its focus to Afghanistan, where Nato forces are engaged in a conflict which has already lasted longer than the Second World War.

Having received a briefing on his first day in office from General David Petraeus, the top US commander in the region, Mr Obama is preparing to meet his military chiefs to decide on the size and shape of the Afghanistan reinforcements he promised during his election campaign. The chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Admiral Michael Mullen, said just before Christmas that up to 30,000 more troops could be sent by summer, nearly doubling the size of the US force in the country. Britain, the next largest contributor in the 41-nation international force, has fewer than 9,000 troops in Afghanistan, which means American dominance of the campaign against the Taliban is set to increase.

"There are fears that this could become a US war rather than a Nato one," said Christopher Langton, senior fellow for conflict at the International Institute of Strategic Studies (IISS) in London. "With other Nato members already planning to scale back, the US could find itself isolated. Rather than being an international operation, it would become another 'coalition of the willing', as in Iraq - though with the crucial difference that the Afghan mission has had a United Nations mandate throughout."

Paul Smyth, head of the operational studies programme at London's Royal United Services Institute (Rusi), pointed out that several Nato countries, including Canada, Germany and France, had significantly increased their troop commitments in percentage terms during 2008. But in the past week the French Defence Minister, Hervé Morin, said considering further reinforcements was "out of the question for now". And Jan Peter Balkenende, Prime Minister of the Netherlands, another important contributor of troops, indicated that it would reduce its force by the end of next year.

Mr Smyth said the international coalition in Afghanistan was wider and more committed than that in Iraq, but in some ways faced a tougher task. Although improved security in Iraq would benefit the Afghan mission, Iraqi insurgents had never had as much of a "safe haven" across the border in Iran as the Taliban enjoyed in the lawless frontier areas of Pakistan. "The scale is entirely different," Mr Smyth said.

Emphasising that the Obama administration was not simply planning a military "surge", one American official said: "We have to come up with fresh, innovative ideas on counter-insurgency, counter-narcotics, governance, development." But many of the proposals are already mired in controversy and confusion, particularly the plan to form local militias on the pattern of Iraq, where Gen Petraeus armed Sunni groups against the al-Qa'ida-linked insurgency.

In Afghanistan, where warlords were enlisted to overthrow the Taliban and still control large parts of the country, it is feared that creating yet more private armies would simply worsen chronic lawlessness. Two years ago, a similar scheme to form an "auxiliary" police force had to be shelved. As soon as they were issued a uniform and a weapon, many recruits began preying on local people. A pilot scheme in Wardak province, south of Kabul, has become bogged down in arguments over who will control the militias, who will pay them and how they should be armed. William Wood, the US ambassador, is adamant that Washington will provide training and uniforms, but not arms. The Interior Ministry suggested that the men might be issued with repaired "old and broken guns", while Mohammed Masoom Stanekazi, vice-chairman of the country's official disarmament organisation, has argued that the militias should provide their own weapons.

"None of this," said Robert Emerson, a security analyst who is producing an academic paper on the Petraeus campaign in Iraq, "suggests fighting units to take on insurgents, like the Anbar Awakening in Iraq, but armed men who have the scope to get up to mischief if they get authority."

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Combating Afghanistan's drugs trade, which supplies 93 per cent of the world's heroin, is another likely source of discord, both with President Hamid Karzai's government and among Nato members. Under American pressure, Nato recently decided to play a much more direct role in counter-narcotics operations. But reservations among some of the 26 Nato countries contributing troops led to the insertion of a caveat allowing dissenting nations to opt out of operations.

Britain has supported the initiative, but military commanders and diplomats fear many of the Nato contributors will steer clear of drugs operations, just as they have avoided frontline action. The already stretched British force could have to carry out more than its share of counter-narcotics missions.

But the arrival of American reinforcements in southern Afghanistan is likely to mean that, as in Iraq, the British will play a more subordinate role. Since they arrived three years ago in Helmand, the country's largest province and main heroin producer, British troops have never been deployed in sufficient numbers to gain control of more than a small central area around the provincial capital, Lashkar Gah. Now the main British base, Camp Bastion, is preparing to receive an influx of US troops.

Command of Afghanistan's southern military region used to rotate among Britain, Canada and the Netherlands. But with the arrival of some 20,000 US troops, doubling the present international deployment, an American major-general will take over a tighter command structure. US officers regard the current situation as a stalemate, with Nato forces until now having been too thinly spread to do more than hold their ground. They expect that to change once the reinforcements are in place.

Mr Langton of the IISS said some British officers welcomed a more unified command structure, in which they would work more closely with American commanders, but it could appear to the public at home that the British force had not succeeded in its mission. This he blamed on the Ministry of Defence, which he said had made no effort to explain what British troops were doing in Afghanistan, "when in fact this is a positive development which could have a dramatic effect on the counter-insurgency campaign".

Rusi's Mr Smyth, who is preparing a study of the Taliban's progress in 2008, said its greatest success had been in "creating the impression it did well". Despite a high rate of attacks, he said it was not "a homogenous, unified group whose ability to cause violence extends across the country".

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The United States needs to have an orderly retreat underway when the economy totally collapses in the second half of this year. We must withdraw from the oil wars. Whether we like it or not, we are going to live within our means and within our borders. We might as well act like we are doing it on purpose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 01/26/2009
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Afghanistan is the quagmire par excellence. We should not surge troops into Afghanistan, and if we do -- the mission must be meticulously defined and have a terminus a quo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 01/26/2009

If a soldier is asked if battling in a foreign country, where in for any reason the Locals are not in support of such war, then what would be the result. The simple soldier would say that the battle will end up in defeat for the foreigners. Therefore, having fought two wars in the same terrain and under severe climatic conditions my view is that this adventure in Afghanistan is but a dangerous gamble and I am afraid USA may end up with similar defeat suffered by the Russians, may be with much more heavy casualties then the Russians had. the Generals will obey the political decisions. But then the politicians while formulating the final decision under the prevailing global economical and financial crises and the internal condition may like to meticulously consider the prose and cones of the after effects or fall out of such a long term war. And take into account the short and long term impacts on the internal social,pol­itical,eco­nomical and financial aspects. Thanks a lot.

Instead of engaging the terrorists with foreign troops from outside Afghanistan. it is suggested that the Afghan troops should be used more in raids and attacks against the terrorists under strict supervision . Foreign troops should be used against the terrorists in operation on A1 intelligence in- formations only..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 01/26/2009

we're a caretaker force there. give them a timeline to withdrawl and bailout,. let the UN membership stepup to the plate since they're such a wonderful money pit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 01/26/2009
- cayuse I'm a Fan of cayuse 15 fans permalink
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America get out of Afghanistan, you are the insurgence not the Taliban

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 01/26/2009

with that said, do you support the prehistoric rule of the taliban? their people sure don't, they just want to live freely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 01/27/2009
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I hear Karzai is none too pleased with the recent killing of Afghani civilians in a strike on Taliban/Al Queda targets...­seems he and Afghanis are enraged that Obama is continuing the actions that were so upsetting to them under Bush,...no­t an auspicious beginning here...if Gates is responsible for this or some minion connected to him, then Gates should be out....if Obama authorized this, then we are not moving away from the failures of Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 01/26/2009
- Ascoli I'm a Fan of Ascoli 25 fans permalink
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Get the hell out of Afghanastan and let them settle their own lives.
It's a useless mission.
Cripes doesn't the US see that.
Oil anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 01/26/2009
- beauwulff I'm a Fan of beauwulff 9 fans permalink
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Once again the US will be left holding the bag. Afghanistan is a lot closer to Europe, but they're not concerned enough to make an effective contribution. And now they're bailing. Meanwhile Afghan "leaders" are so busy lining their pockets with US taxpayer dollars that governing has become an annoying, part time distraction.

The US should pull out of this cesspool, too. If the Afghans and Pakistanis aren't capable of creating leadership not controlled by lunatics and thugs, then it's their problem. If they want to slaughter themselves, so be it.

As far as the US is concerned, all either has to remember is that we'll massively bomb and destroy any terrorist training camps detected in either country and that one or both can be wiped off the face of the earth in a half hour.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 01/26/2009

"afghanistan is a lot closer to europe" is like saying america is close to new zealand.eu­ropean govs are wary of committing troops as in 2001 when they did, the us 1)didn't listen to them and 2) diverted most of its resources to iraq which several of the paticpating nations opposed.
this bellicose attitude and lack of regard for human rights and naational sovereignty saying you can "wipe them off the face of the earth" is why us has lost the worlds respect

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 01/27/2009
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Maby it's time to get out of that part of the world just like we need to pull out of the GOP iraq quagmire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 01/26/2009

Mike thats to too simple and might work, thats why it will never happen. Plus the military companies need to make a profit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 01/26/2009
- Luvial I'm a Fan of Luvial 17 fans permalink

Sure, just surrender. Remember what happened when we left Viet Nam? Oh, that's right, nothing happened.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 01/26/2009
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You can defeat anything you like it is defeat. Even if you forgot to define the mission statement, how can you win being an insurgent in a foreign land

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 01/26/2009

Time to bring in the Euro-Zone countries to the rescue. This after all is their back yard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 01/26/2009
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Yah, but the CIA has its firecrackers and try not letting them play with them

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 01/26/2009
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Interesting article on the British viewpoint, but all this back seat driving is giving me a headache. 0bama has been president for how long?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 01/26/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Once he took the oath the amount of time matters not at all...you take the office, all responsibility is in his hands, and only his hands.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 01/26/2009
- cayuse I'm a Fan of cayuse 15 fans permalink
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It is in the Oath, not the experience. I swear to uphold the constitution of the us, its laws and defend it against all foreign and DOMESTIC enemy's.

Drones are they foreign or DOMESTIC enemy's

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 01/26/2009
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I think it has to do with:

Taliban takeover of Afghanistan
Opium supply
Taliban influence/take over of parts of Pakistan
Al Queda in Pakistan-A­fghanistan border
A weak civilian govt. in Pakistan
Pakistani nukes falling into the wrong hands
Threat to the largest democracy, India from Pakistani/Taliban jihadis/terrorists

And lot more....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 01/26/2009
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No Taliban was Afghanistan. They stopped the Opium supply. They are Postume same as western Pakistan. Pakistand getting weaker by US policy and Drones, Pakistand nukes falling on US in anyones hand for our attacks. Threat from US drones, cia, and war machine

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 01/26/2009
- carnelld I'm a Fan of carnelld 10 fans permalink

There has got to be more to this Afghanista­n/Pakistan conflict than what we are being told. Fighting for "freedom" half way around he world just doesn't cut it for me.

I keep reading tid bits about some pipeline across Afghanistan to carry gas or oil.

I don't buy the Fighting for "freedom" talking point. It just does not make sense to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 01/26/2009

You mean the pipeline Chevron was looking to build? The contract Chevron was looking to secure by the influence gleaned through the two former Chevron VP's Condoleezza Rice and Hamed Karzhai? You mean THAT pipeline?
Just rumors and hearsay. Bloggers chatter. Internet gossip. Pay it no mind. If that were truly the case, don't you think your government would have leveled with you?
Freedom. It's all about freedom. FREEDOM (as in "they hate us for our").
Have a nice day and go back to your normal activities, we have everything under control.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 01/26/2009
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Lol. Don't look behind the curtain indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 01/26/2009

Or maybe you dont remember Sept 11th at all and the fact that there were terrorist camps there runned by Al Queda and the Taliban...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 01/26/2009
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Find more sources. For instance, the NY Review of Books always has well-researched and indepth analysis of this subject.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 01/26/2009
- cayuse I'm a Fan of cayuse 15 fans permalink
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It is simple they are fight for their freedom as our Declaration of Independence.

We are the aggressor, massacres, occupiers and insurgents

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 01/26/2009

Geez, when is this President going to stop trying to remind the world that his middle name is Hussein, and he is going to get us out of the wars instead of making things worse?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 01/26/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

The Aghanis see nothing new when civilians are killed in air strikes...­do we need to be imitating Israel when we hit civilian targets? Hardly something we share in common with Israeli military tactics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 01/26/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

Sorry...fi­xing the grammar:

The Aghanis see nothing new when civilians are killed in air strikes...­do we need to be imitating Israel when we hit civilian targets? Hardly something we SHOULD share in common with Israeli military tactics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 01/26/2009

"There are fears that this could become a U.S. war rather than a NATO one"????
Afghanistan, like Iraq IS a U.S war. (Don't even TRY to go the "coalition of the willing" route)
America is shouldering all the burden. Let me rephrase that. The American military and their families are shouldering all the burden in these two actions.
I just hope extensive thought is given to the long range strategy in Afghanistan before committing more troops to the cause. Don't do it just to be able to say "see, Democrats are willing to send in the troops too".
Well defined plans with well defined goals are all we ask.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 01/26/2009
- Luvial I'm a Fan of Luvial 17 fans permalink

We have a losing strategy in Afghanistan that more troops will not fix. As Rumsfeld asked himself, "Are we creating more Taliban than we are killing?" If you read about this week's massacre of 20 Afghans in a village, the answer is pretty obvious. The military is not learning from mistakes and are not changing their tactics. The strategy was supposed to be democracy and reconstruction instead of 7 years of misguided killing and destruction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 01/26/2009
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