Geithner, Bernanke Work On Overhaul Of $700B Bailout

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MARTIN CRUTSINGER | January 30, 2009 09:50 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and other top banking officials met Friday to hammer out details of a major overhaul of the government's financial rescue program. One official said the Obama administration was close to unveiling the new plan.

This senior administration official, who spoke to The Associated Press, said the administration was on track to announce its overhaul of the $700 billion bailout program soon, possibly as early as next week.

This official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the plan has not yet been unveiled, said that it would employ a full range of tools to get credit flowing again to families and businesses.

While there had been reports that the administration may decide against setting up a government-run bank known as a bad bank to purchase toxic assets, this official said the administration was still developing the part of the plan to deal with toxic assets and no final decisions had been made.

The administration is working on proposals for how it will use the last $350 billion from the rescue program. Some of the measures being considered could end up costing taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars beyond the original $700 billion pricetag.

Geithner previously said the administration is weighing the possibility of using a bad bank to buy up toxic assets that are weighing on the books of financial institutions, a proposal that some analysts have estimated could cost well over $1 trillion.

In addition to conferring throughout the day Friday with senior Treasury Department officials, Geithner met with Bernanke and other top banking regulators including Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairman Sheila Bair and John Dugan, the head of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency. The OCC regulates the country's biggest banks.

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said the issue of how much more money to ask Congress to commit beyond the current $700 billion is a key item the administration is debating.

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"Do you guarantee the bad assets or do you buy them? Do you guarantee all the bad assets or just the housing assets? There are a lot of unanswered questions," Schumer said.

Meanwhile, congressional auditors released a new report saying it may never be known whether the initial $700 billion plan accomplished its objectives because it will be difficult to separate the impact of the rescue program from the effects of other economic forces.

The Government Accountability Office said the Treasury Department had made progress in implementing about half of the nine reforms it suggested in an earlier report, including improving communication about the bailout and hiring more staff to run it.

But the department had not fully addressed eight of the recommendations, according to the GAO. "The lack of a clearly articulated vision has complicated Treasury's ability to effectively communicate to Congress, the financial markets, and the public on the benefits of TARP," the report said.

Treasury spokesman Isaac Baker said President Barack Obama and Geithner both agree that "much more needs to be done to better stabilize our financial system and get credit flowing again to families and businesses."

In an e-mail responding to the GAO report, Baker wrote the administration would soon announce an overhaul of the bailout program "that will increase lending and impose new measures to strengthen oversight, transparency and accountability so that taxpayers know where and how their money is being spent and whether it's achieving real results."

Geithner said earlier this week that the administration would announce its new proposals "relatively soon." Many expect decisions as early as next week.

The administration is trying boost confidence that it can get control of the worst financial crisis to hit the country since the 1930s. However, former Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson quickly committed the first $350 billion from the bailout program in an effort that so far has not yielded the expected results of stabilizing the situation and getting banks to resume more normal lending to consumers and businesses.

The bailout program has generated a huge amount of controversy. Critics charge that the Bush administration failed to impose enough restrictions on banks to make sure the billions they were receiving went to boost lending.

Obama on Thursday called it "shameful" and the "height of irresponsibility" that Wall Street had paid out $18.4 billion in bonuses last year.

The Treasury statement on Friday said that Geithner, who was sworn into office Monday night after being confirmed by the Senate, had spent part of this week in telephone conversations with the finance ministers of France, Germany and Australia on the joint efforts that will be needed to stabilize the global economy and restore growth.

Treasury said the discussions with French Finance Minister Christine Lagarde involved a review of France's proposals to overhaul the global financial architecture and the progress being made by the Group of 20 major industrial and developing countries.

Those talks are in preparation for a G-20 leaders' meeting in April that will be a follow-up to an initial summit chaired by former President George W. Bush in November.

WASHINGTON — Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and other top banking officials met Friday to hammer out details of a major overhaul of the government's f...
WASHINGTON — Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and other top banking officials met Friday to hammer out details of a major overhaul of the government's f...
 
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President Obama: Read these thoughtful comments of your fellow Americans. Then you will want to ease out of your sight and voice those dangerous advisors and subordinates that have their own interests above the American interests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 02/01/2009

Forget "tools to get credit flowing again to families and businesses".

How about tools to get consumer spending flowing again from families to business and payrolls flowing again from businesses to families?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 02/01/2009
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Thanks as this shows Americans are waking up to the Crisis the Banks have caused and the FED is at the Heart of this.

If we can not control the FED we lose the WAR against the USURY that has plagued us since our founding in 1776.

The FED Functions must be brought under the control of the Treasury and out of the Control of the Elite and the Elite Banks! Regulate the FED with Laws and Regulations set by Congress and let it be run as the Constitution intended under the Executive Branch subject to open transparency instead of its current secrecy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 02/01/2009

All Bank Bail-out money should first pass through the hands of the taxpayers.
Give the public the ability to pay their debts off; the banks will end up with the money very quickly.
at least some good will come from the handout this way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 02/01/2009
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Good News is we can solve a fairly significant problem: The way to correct the $30 to $65 Trillion Credit Default Swaps is for government to declare all CDS null/void.
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The Bad News is that $1,140 Trillion in Toxic Paper exists Worldwide ($600 Trillion in US) but America's has only $14 Trillion GDP, so 45+ years to grow out.

The government does NOT realize the vast majority of the unrecognized losses in the Banking System are PERMANENT losses that are not going to recover for decade(s) as “FUTURE” money was taken out in fees by the Bankers and then doled out in salaries and bonuses and paid out in dividends.

The FEES the Bankers took were worth 10 to 30 years of "2004-2006 level Hyper-Inflation in Housing." They assumed the Housing Appreciation Rate in 2004-2006 would extend 10 to 30 years and then STOLE Fees equivalent to that Future Value and put it in their pockets in 2004 to 2008.

That Hyper-Inflation Bubble has burst and is dropping back to late 1980's level, so recovery is decades away.

Banks are "SO Bankrupt" $Hundred of Trillions are required to save them!

Do NOT bankrupt America to save these Corrupt/Ignorant Bankers as there is not enough equity in America! It will ruin America and create Massive Dollar Inflation!

KIND THINK TO DO: LET THEM FOLLOW THE PATH OF THEIR GREED TO ITS END!
NO MORE BAILOUTS OF THESE CORRUPT BANKS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 AM on 02/01/2009
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Thomas Jefferson ---

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

Abraham Lincoln ---

"See in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war"

Andrew Jackson---

Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 AM on 02/01/2009
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Are the Elite Bankers America's Friend?

Nothing has changed since our founding in 1776, Bankers are not our Friends!
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IS THIS SIMPLY ANOTHER BIG FAKE-OUT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?
The President and his close friend Senator Claire McCaskill come out LOUDLY against Wall Street for their Corruption and Greed!

Yet in the background Geithner, Summers, and Bernake are planning how to doling out more money to the very same Corrupt people that Paulson did!

Why are they "Giving a DIME" to Corrupt Banks that caused this Crisis!

Middle and Poor Americans must be helped with Housing, Jobs that produce things, Healthcare, and Education!

Make the Hard Decision and force the Banks to Automate their mathematical formulas and use the Internet to deliver services!

Form a Government Run HIGH TECH Peoples' Bank that competes and if necessary fills the VOID in Credit these morally corrupt Bankers are not providing. Force the Corrupt Banks to automate and offer competitive low Rates and FEES and simple, Easy to Understand Loan Contracts.

We are seeing a Clever way for the RICH Elite Bankers to TAKE Back All the Taxes they paid over the last Eight Years.

PLUS These Corrupt Elite Bankers are also taking All that Average Americans have PAID in Taxes and putting it into the Pockets of the Elite Bankers.

We must find ways to BYPASS this ELITE SYSTEM and Take the Bankers out of the Pockets of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 AM on 02/01/2009

Have you asked yourselves "why am I still paying my federal taxes?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 02/01/2009

forget congress---the bankers just staged a successful coup d` ta ----and noone even noticed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 01/31/2009

Foxes are in charge of the program of ( CHANGE) two yes men for the banks, and Wall St. They must be rolling in clover on this one. Obama was bought and payed for, and now the foxes are unleashed on the American people. The unveiling of this diabolical plan will the capstone of the central banks victory. I cant understand why anyone in their right minds would allow this to happen. What is Obama thinking? Who's side is he on? I feel betrayed in Geithner selection. I feel betrayed from the congress voting him in. I feel betrayed that the banks are rewarded for their mistakes, and average american is punished for trying to stay alive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 01/31/2009
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the banks have been shown lots of favoritism already, and they take it for granted.

How do they divide the bad securities? They have been rigged to make it difficult to separate them in a "bad bank", so they would be all covered or nothing. The only other way to handle this is from the bottom up, a slow process, that ensures that we do not cover lots of bad foreign debt.

Another question : How do we retrieve assets that are abroad somewhere?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 01/31/2009
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bernanke should be in jail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 01/31/2009

President Bernanke

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 01/31/2009
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What I see too much of is trying to solve the problem by rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic (monetary policy) when we should be heavily into a fiscal solution where the "investment multiplier" has a huge effect.

To be blunt -- the monetary solution ain't gonna fix jack. It never has in either a recession or a depression. It only works generally during periods of inflation.

If the U.S. government (forget big business -- they are UnAmerian) invested -- tomorrow -- one trillion bucks in rebuilding and greening our infrastructure, adding railroads, handing out college loans of 1% and providing cheap loans to rebuild domestic manufacturing and agriculture, the multiplier effect could be upwards of 5 trillion bucks in time. That is a hunk of change -- and a huge amount of new jobs.

But no one in MSM has even suggested the investment multiplier effect of *investing in America*( hello! I am talking AMERICA). If you Google this or go on LexisNexis Academic Universe you'll find articles on this effect in countries like China and the Philippines (Intel is building a huge plant in the Philippines) -- but not about the U.S.

Obviously it will work for the U.S. So let's do it Team Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 01/31/2009

The partners in cr!me are back together again. How sweet? I have come to realize Obama is clueless on the gov and its hidden corrupt operatives. He should have cleaned DC completely but no he had to recycle the Clinton sch!tt once again. Geezz..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 01/31/2009
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It is time to investigate Bernanke and Paulson through a Grand Jury process to see why they handed over TARP funds, open drive through loans windows (want fries with that Mr. Banksta?), with no transparency or rules. These two are gangstas working for the Bush Crime Family and big time financial hoods. With over a trillion already handed out our GDP keeps falling. It is now at an annual rate of 3.8 missing the high mark of 5-6. OOPPPS! Everything is frozen.

The America people know exactly now, how to control this government and the thieves inside the banks and corporations and that is to STOP SPENDING EXCEPT FOR WHAT IS ESSENTIAL. Working America controls the gig, but no one is paying attention to it. By the working class Americans saying NO to borrowing, while wages are tanked, investments are dead, and jobs are overseas, we can demand Obama follow a populist fix to the disaster, with investigations beginning with Bush and Cheney on down to the bankers and financial scammers, WE JUST SHOULD SAY NO TO THE THIEVES GETTING THEIR WAY AND POCKETING THE CASH, WHICH THE TREASURY GAVE AWAY IN EXCHANGE FOR THEIR GARBAGE TOXIC SECURITIES.

WHEN WILL AMERICA WAKE UP????

http://eye-on-washington.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 01/31/2009

Time to wake up-----the country is really run by PRESIDENT BERNACKE-------

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 01/31/2009

What a crooked country we live in... and the crooks just keep getting more.

I'm losing A LOT OF HOPE for Obama... especially after reading this.

We AND our children, are so s c r e w e d.

Time to take to the streets....with torches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 01/31/2009
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You are a faithless coward. Yes, the economy is in a critical state, but this crisis is blown way out of proportion by the news media. I'm surprised that mass panic has not been considered as something we need to be bailed out of. Keep your pants on, ConcernedAboutRFuture. You have to
remember that there is only so much Obama can do as chief executive and still remain within his
constitutional limits. And if you would cease being a doom prophet for one minute, and maybe spend more time lifting up and encouraging, maybe you'll actually find progress being made. Our government is not our god, we are in control of our lives, so exercise some control, would ya?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 01/31/2009
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Part I
This TARP has been so politicized by vested interests we must understand the motivations of the various solutions proposed as well as those that are pushing for a particular outcome because they have made certain financial bets, like shorting bank stocks and then manipulating the process or public discourse by advocating a particular solution.

A short list for example:

1. Many want solutions that make the common stock worthless but forget that when we let Lehman go under, confidence necessary for a working system was completely lost. Even if the common is diluted, we must not allow the common, mostly shorted by vulture hedge funds and global sovereign funds but mostly invested in by pensions and retirees to become worthless. Common stock in place even if diluted is the only way to restore confidence broadly. The people betting against us have a vested interest for confidence in our system to fail.
2. At the same time bond fund managers proposed that a market be created for the toxic assets that are artificially high when the government purchases them (60 cents on the dollar for example), so they can later “take them off the governments hands” at a much lower price (20 cents on the dollar for example). The only solution is to create a true market. That in itself will buoy the price since when there is no market, the price can only be zero. At the same time they must be saved as public entities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 01/31/2009
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