Israel Rules Out Hamas Contacts, Threatens Force

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ARON HELLER | February 2, 2009 05:47 PM EST | AP

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Israel's Foreign Minister and Kadima party leader Tzipi Livni speaks during the 9th Herzliya Conference, in Herzliya, Israel, Monday, Feb. 2, 2009. Livni on Monday pledged to initiate peace with Israel's moderate Arab neighbors while continuing to strike hard against the region's extremists if she is elected prime minister next week. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)

HERZLIYA, Israel — Israel's foreign minister threatened Monday to keep hitting Hamas as long as it attacks Israel, ruling out negotiations with the Islamic rulers of Gaza just eight days before national elections in which she is running for prime minister.

Tzipi Livni's tough statement came as a Hamas delegation went to Cairo for talks Tuesday with Egyptian mediators on a long-term truce with Israel, building on a two-week informal cease-fire that followed Israel's bruising offensive in Gaza.

Events Monday underlined the urgency of the talks in Cairo. An Israeli missile hit a car in the town of Rafah, killing a Palestinian militant, hours after warplanes bombed the nearby Gaza-Egypt border seeking to destroy tunnels that Hamas uses to smuggle in weapons and supplies.

The Israeli military said the target of the airstrike was a car carrying militants who fired mortars at Israel. Palestinian officials said a militant in the car was killed and another was wounded, along with two bystanders.

The attacks were retaliation for more than a dozen rockets and mortar shells fired from Gaza on Sunday. The fire decreased considerably Monday, with the military saying that two mortar shells exploded at a border crossing in southern Gaza during the day.

In Cairo, Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri said the group, which calls for the destruction of Israel, would make its decision about a truce after a final round of talks with Egyptian mediators expected on Tuesday. The Hamas delegation arrived in Cairo late Monday night.

He said the delegation would listen to "the summary of the Egyptian contacts and talks that have been conducted with the Israelis or other concerned parties." Israel and Hamas refuse to deal directly with each other.

In Syria, Mohammed Nasr, a member of the exiled leadership of Hamas, said the group was ready for a one-year truce with Israel in exchange for reopening the Gaza Strip's borders and lifting the economic blockade.

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The crossings, Gaza's main economic lifeline, have largely been closed since Hamas violently seized control of the territory in June 2007 from forces supporting Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, whose administration is now limited to the West Bank.

Hamas and Egypt reject outside forces patrolling their border, while Israel is hesitant to reopen any border crossings, concerned that militants and explosives could be smuggled into Israel and weapons into Gaza.

Continued violence could work against Israel's outgoing government in the Feb. 10 elections and bolster hard-line opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu, who is seen as the front-runner.

Netanyahu has called for Israel to oust Hamas from power in Gaza. In a speech Monday at an annual security conference sponsored by the Interdisciplinary Center, Livni did not go that far, but she was clear in her refusal to deal directly with the Islamic militants.

Hamas does not accept a place for a Jewish state in an Islamic Middle East and has sent dozens of suicide bombers into Israel.

Hamas' Damascus-based political leader, Khaled Mashaal, was in Iran Sunday and Monday where he met the country's top leaders to thank them for their support during the Gaza offensive. He called his movement's most powerful ally a "partner in victory."

Israel and the United States accuse Iran of supplying Hamas with weapons, including rockets. Tehran denies it, but says it does support Hamas financially _ believed to be to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. The funding has been vital for sustaining Hamas under the crippling blockade.

"Terror must be fought with force and lots of force," Livni said. "Therefore we will strike Hamas."

She threatened to renew Israel's offensive if attacks from Gaza continue. "If by ending the operation we have yet to achieve deterrence, we will continue until they get the message," she said.

Livni called for Israel to pursue peace with moderate Palestinians and Arab states.

"If we don't draft an initiative in Hebrew, it will be dictated to us in Arabic, French or English," she warned.

"This election is about peace," she said, drawing a contrast between her views and those of Netanyahu, who has proposed limiting talks with Palestinians to economic issues.

"The dove is on the window sill," Livni said. "We can either slam the door or let it in. The choice is in your hands."

More than a year of U.S.-backed negotiations between Israel and Abbas' Western-backed government have failed to make discernible progress. The Hamas seizure of Gaza has complicated peace efforts by exposing the weakness of the Abbas regime.

Israel, too, has not been in a position to finalize a deal because of its own political turmoil. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert resigned in September because of corruption allegations, but Livni could not form a new coalition government, forcing the election.

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Associated Press writers Omar Sinan in Cairo and Albert Aji in Damascus, Syria, contributed to this report.

HERZLIYA, Israel — Israel's foreign minister threatened Monday to keep hitting Hamas as long as it attacks Israel, ruling out negotiations with the Islamic rulers of Gaza just eight days before ...
HERZLIYA, Israel — Israel's foreign minister threatened Monday to keep hitting Hamas as long as it attacks Israel, ruling out negotiations with the Islamic rulers of Gaza just eight days before ...
 
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- scared4ALL I'm a Fan of scared4ALL 10 fans permalink

Come on people. Help save the innocent & their children by speaking out concerning Israel. Pass this link around as much as possible and tell everyone to demand President Obama stop "US" from supporting Israel in the manner we have been doing for far too long.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ Email media & demand truth in reporting concerning the atrocities of Israel, too. I'll send a media list in a minute so you can save it for all important matters. I send the media the following when I write them. Funny how this scene from the movie "Network" still applies to today. "Mad As Hell"> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 02/03/2009
- BubbaC33 I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 37 fans permalink

If you want to save the lives of people in the Middle East, especially in Gaza, get the Arabs to accept Israel's right to exist and to stop attacking us. Then we won;t have to invade Gaza or other Arab entities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 02/04/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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Arab Peace Plan. 2002. Read it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 02/04/2009
- scared4ALL I'm a Fan of scared4ALL 10 fans permalink

This Israel matter is so important. So many are suffering. So many innocent have died or been maimed. Little children and babies, my God, why is this allowed? This will end soon because not only are some in our media speaking up and reporting fact & truth but in Israel a few in media are, too. Just like our own citizens here who've awakened to the big picture as to what's been going on, so are Israel's good people finally speaking out, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 02/03/2009
- Fireslayer I'm a Fan of Fireslayer 12 fans permalink
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Maybe if will be a whole new paradigm after the Knesset elections.

The fact that humanitarian aid is still stifled is criminal negligence in any jurisdiction in the world, even Israel. Do they wish to kill them all off because their conscience can no longer bare them as reminder of their 60 years of repression?

Maybe they will talk in a couple of weeks. This can't go on.

When will tjhey learn that violence begats violence ad nauseum?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 02/03/2009

The biggest threat to peace and to the middle east is Radical islam disguised as democratically elected leaders, in Iran, lebanon, Somalia, Gaza, and Turkey..

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 02/03/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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Be afraid! The sky is falling! Bwack!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 02/04/2009
- BubbaC33 I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 37 fans permalink

This is probably the most intellectually honest posting you have ever written.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 02/04/2009

Cut off our $8 billion a year in aid and weapons to Israel and force these crybabies to negotiate a settlement.

Get over it, you need to stop bleeding American dry, this isn't 1930's Germany, in fact Israel with it's 200 nukes has become an apartheid state worse than South Africa was.


Israel keeps saying they are our best friend but when one examines the relationship it's hard to see how they have helped us. We pay $1500 a year for each citizen yet they continue to run the most active spy program in America, undermine our foreign policy and continue to tarnish our repuatation globally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 02/03/2009
- BubbaC33 I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 37 fans permalink

It is always amazing to me that someone can misquote figures, ignore the amounts of aid sent to other nations and then make racist remarks about Jews.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 02/03/2009
- Clem2 I'm a Fan of Clem2 9 fans permalink

As long as Hamas attacks, Israel has to respond.

We may have illegal aliens, who are a huge drain on the country. At least they don't shoot rockets at us.

The Palestinians make the wrong and stupid decision every time-- never seem to learn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 02/03/2009

Wow ! Now you equate displaced palestinians with illegal aliens !!!
Great analogy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 02/03/2009
- arvay I'm a Fan of arvay 140 fans permalink
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Wrong in so many ways!

First, these immigrants are an asset, Mexico's loss, our gain. The vast majority come here to work. They bolster the Social Security system. The rate of foreclosure among illegal immigrants is only a fraction of the native-born. They are not part of the sub-prime mess. Their children will be assimilated and add to the multi-threaded fabric of our society.

RE: Rockets. While the Mexican drug cartels haven't fired any rockets yet, they have engaged in gun battles with US drug enforcement and border police. The US has not flattened a swath of Mexican cities in response. No one is quite as crazy as Israel.

The Palestinians as "stupid." The Nazis felt the same way about those who resisted them. These people are fighting back against their expulsion from their land and imprisonment in a large concentration camp that constitutes collective punishment. Israel is actually the stupid nation, the evidence of its eventual defeat is right in front of them, yet they continue.

Who the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 02/03/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 131 fans permalink
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Mexico is a SOVEREIGN nation! Big difference. The Pa l e s tin ians are being imprisoned on their own land and deprived of their basic human rights! Big difference.

The KLA in Kosovo and the ANC in South Africa resisted oppression for years with v i o lence. How long must a human being be oppressed before he resists with vi o l e n c e if necessary to get the world's attention to his plight?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 02/03/2009

Thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 02/03/2009
- BubbaC33 I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 37 fans permalink

No one on Gaza is imprisoned, any commerce needed can be sent thorugh Egypt. Israel has no moral or ethical obligation to open its border with Gaza.
The comparisons to other nations is, at best, wrong-minded.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 02/03/2009

I have read some articles that suggest that Fatah is actually doing the rocket attacks. I believe Izzzrael is actually wanting to finally cleans the land of brown people. Thats what this is about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 02/03/2009
- Elderlady I'm a Fan of Elderlady 15 fans permalink

How short-sighted.

If there were a military solution to this problem, it would have been found sometime in the last 60 years or so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 02/03/2009

Force Israel to TALK!

they can not run a concentration camp! any longer...

hum you know who refused to speak with the Polish in WWII? Hitler! the similarities in tactics are frightening! These people are doing what was done to them and we must guide them out of Darkness

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 AM on 02/03/2009
- BubbaC33 I'm a Fan of BubbaC33 37 fans permalink

Yet another totally false representation of the situation in the Middle East.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 02/03/2009

Ohhh lord

same old excuse, I don't speak to anyone...

like that they resolve nothing and have excuses to keep running a massive jail

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 AM on 02/03/2009
- arvay I'm a Fan of arvay 140 fans permalink
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This is a non-story, just Israeli political posturing.

These people say they'll "never negotiate" with terrorists, then they swap prisoners, for years they refused to deal with the PLO, now they recognize Abbas because it gives them an excuse not to talk to the real, elected Palestinian government, they'll agree to remove settlements from the West bank but actually expand them.

The fact is that their words are worthless, they will say anything that seems to work at the moment -- and they think the rest of us are so inferior to their exalted minds that we won't notice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 02/03/2009

"Terror must be fought with force and lots of force," Livni said.

I don't think this strategy has ever proven effective. Killing the families of those who already have nothing to lose just creates more terror and force...lots of force.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 AM on 02/03/2009
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 60 fans permalink

when is America going to see through Israel . . . . and stop supporting them . . this is livni in full campaign trottle . . .

israel is the problem in the Middle East . . . by her exaulted logic you completely ignore the legally elected representatives of the Palestinian people Hamas . . If I follow her logic she would still be speaking to bush and cheney and ignoring Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 AM on 02/03/2009

Hamas is a democrycy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 AM on 02/03/2009
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The only possible first step to peace is for the US to stop bankrolling the occupying forces. Let them float alone. As long as an outside party pays for battle in which only one side can experience significant casualty numbers, peace can be nothing more than a fleeting dream.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 AM on 02/03/2009
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