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The Stimulus Defenders Speak

First Posted: 03/07/09 05:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 02:05 PM ET

It's been called a Christmas tree of spending, a sop to liberal priorities, and a Democratic power-grab in the guise of an economic recovery package.

The stimulus bill as passed by the House of Representatives has been parodied by politicians and the commentariat alike. Fifty million dollars for the arts? Money to research STDs? Funds to sod the National Mall? What, exactly, were Democrats thinking?

The disparagement has grown so intense in recent days that Democrats in the Senate and even a few in the House have begun casting their lot with the critics.

And as the heat mounts, the congressional staffers and appropriations experts who helped craft the bill have become nearly apoplectic. The stimulus package, they say, is one of the most intricate pieces of legislation to come out of Congress in decades, one that achieves goals progressives have unsuccessfully sought for a quarter-century (yes, even through the Clinton administration).

In a series of interviews, these staffers, frustrated by the lack of effective push-back to the criticisms and restrained in their ability to mount an on-the-record defense, have resorted instead to an unexpected form of rebuttal -- so what?

As in: So what if the bill includes a litany of unrelated projects? The stimulus is supposed to work across many sectors, not one. Predictive models are historically unreliable when it comes to job creation; the bill funds projects far and wide, near-term and long for a reason.

And so what if this bill props up dormant federal programs? The policies of the past eight years were hardly stimulative. That Democrats would push their priorities is the surest sign yet that elections actually do have consequences.

Why didn't a single House Republican vote for the recovery package? One high-ranking congressional aide opined to the Huffington Post, "It wasn't because of family planning funds or preserving the National Mall or whatever Rush Limbaugh and Drudge's talking points were. It's because this legislation is the clearest repudiation of Bush and Congressional Republican economic policies yet."

It is, in a way, a public relations coup that the stimulus has been boiled down to, as one Hill Democrat puts it, "funding for the arts, funding for the mall, and funding to fight AIDS." Those aspects of the legislation, as the White House points out, constitute a mere 7/100th of one percent of the entire package. Moreover, the size of the legislation is not even the most pertinent topic of debate. For many economists, the issue isn't whether the stimulus is too large, but whether it goes far enough in producing a new economic structure instead of patching up the old one.

Critics of the recovery bill have also earned their stripes by arguing that the stimulus, by sending money to many different places, won't be stimulative. The legislation's authors respond that many parts of the plan serve a dual purpose: to spur the creation or retention of jobs while setting the stage for more durable markets.

As an example, defenders put forth a $2.6 billion appropriation for advanced battery technology research and development for cars. The project will create jobs. But the long-term ramifications are far greater. U.S. manufacturers were beaten to the hybrid market by their Japanese competitors and suffered economically as a consequence. Batteries are, as one Hill aide put it, "the next big frontier."

"This is critical to helping the auto industry open green car factories here in America," said Rep. Ed Markey (D-MA). "Building American cars and trucks with home-grown, climate-friendly, fuel-efficient technology creates jobs, saves consumers money at the pump and protects the planet from global warming."

Then there is $6.7 billion for renovations and repairs to federal buildings, nearly 90 percent of which would be geared towards making them more energy-efficient.

"I don't think people realize what a big deal weatherizing the federal buildings would be. The government wastes millions of dollars every year on buildings that are old and need to be weatherized," said a high-ranking Democratic aide. "We have windows that leak and have bad insulation. These are buildings all over the country and we are going to go in there, weatherize them, create jobs and save money down the road."

Also on the energy front: $600 million for a new fleet of energy efficient vehicles for the government and $300 million worth of rebates to purchase similarly efficient products; both of which will spur spending, create jobs and generate long-term savings in energy costs.

The stimulus also includes $20 billion for school renovations and construction. "This isn't to build a new sports stadium," explained another Hill aide, "but to make sure that the facilities where kids are learning are being brought into good condition." In a lot of these places -- especially colleges -- the school is the hub of the local economy.

Along those lines, the package includes $2 billion in Head Start and Early Head Start funding which, aides project will create tens-of-thousands of new jobs in early education staffing, in addition to the long term benefits to the students.

There are countless other examples of stimulus expenditures for which Democrats on the Hill are eager to offer a defense. And in talking to them, two general themes emerge. The stimulus is geared toward efficiency. Six billion dollars to weatherize homes and $10 billion for mass transit, for example, will spur job creation and follow-up business -- suppliers will have to accommodate new demands. But they will also save money for consumers in the long run.

The other theme is that the Bush years have left the country's economy in such disrepair that legislators are required to think big. This is true on a broad level, where the middle class saw its purchasing power drastically diminished as their income remained stagnant. But is also true in a micro sense. Part of the reason the stimulus devotes so much to school renovation, an aide said, is because "there were pretty much no investments made in this area under the Bush administration... The only direct funding came in the form of emergency assistance in the gulf areas, after Katrina."

And so, Democrats who crafted the stimulus found themselves in a bind: forced to patch up the bruises of the Bush years with an eye towards creating a new economic system entirely. Whether they can thread that needle is a topic of serious debate. But it is one they take more seriously than the complaints being lobbed by Republican critics.

"We cannot move forward without understanding what created this crisis," said Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel. "This recovery package is the beginning of a longer-term investment in America's middle class, our small businesses, health care, renewable energy technologies and a new infrastructure to reinvigorate our economy so that American workers and businesses can compete and win in the 21st Century."

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It's been called a Christmas tree of spending, a sop to liberal priorities, and a Democratic power-grab in the guise of an economic recovery package. The stimulus bill as passed by the House of Repr...
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03:32 PM on 02/05/2009
Call this what it is:

American Investment bill.

BTW it's over a 10 year periods, not a lump sum like the failed bank bailout.

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9976/hr1aspassed.pdf
01:24 PM on 02/05/2009
GOP talking point of the day from the Red Dawn Oracle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKir8lvtRdI
01:20 PM on 02/05/2009
yes! Lets start calling it a recovery plan! cos thats what it is and thats what america needs
01:14 PM on 02/05/2009
FINALLY!! this bil is a recovery plan! it has to do more than just put a band aid on whats happening, it has to start laying out a foundation for the future. how many hybrid cars are american made? how can america compete in future and grow the economy?
it isnt enough to just spend on infrastructure and give people money to spend, or else the recession will continue.

there have to be longer term programs in there to help the economy to grow over time.

the republicans ddint vote for the bill because they dont believe the government should do anything. i dont even know why they went into governmnent since they dont believe in government.
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SpeakSense
01:07 PM on 02/05/2009
Emails to Senate and Congressional offices are the least effective contact method. Call their local offices and let them know what you think. We have to get this legislation passed and if our Democratic Senators don't have the backbone to fight, we have to show that Progressive Americans do. We all know that President Obama can't do it alone and right now it doesn't seem like anyone is fighting with him.
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TremoluxMan
Politics: BS on Steroids.
12:13 PM on 02/05/2009
Consider this: If it has the Tighty-Righties' knickers in such a twist, it must be exactly the right thing to do.
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sbvpav
11:04 AM on 02/05/2009
"It's because this legislation is the clearest repudiation of Bush and Congressional Republican economic policies yet." well, duh! the american voters overwhelmingly rejected bush and congressional republican economic policies on 11/4/08 even before president obama's stimulus and reinvestment bill.

geez, pay-back is hell. tax cuts for the wealthy, wealth redistribution upward, lassiz faire sec and wall street, billions on an unnecessary war and billions more for private contractors to do work never done or so shoddy they killed our troops as surely as any ied while stiffing monies for body armor, up-armored humvees, walter reed and va benefits for mental health.

as harry truman famously said, the american voters finally figured out who was hitting them over the head, and voted them out. unfortunately though for us, the good ol' obstructionist, fear mongering gop still hasn't gotten the message!
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Belgian Beer
Conservatism: a severe lack of imagination
09:38 AM on 02/05/2009
What's sad is that GOP opposition to Obama's economic recovery plan seems motivated less by a rival economic vision, which they lack, but rather by the fear that if Obama is successful, he will be a hero. And, the GOP just can't have that.

Republicans would rather prevent Obama from being successful than help him do what's right for the country. At least Obama is taking this fight public, to the media. If he is unsuccessful, everyone should know why -- it's because of Republican opposition and for no other reason.

Economists are overwhelmingly on Obama's side. The Economist did a poll during the election in which it was revealed that hardly any economist endorsed Republican economic policies -- for the very simple reason that they just DO NOT WORK. All they do is permit the wealthy to acquire more wealth. Anything the prevents this is labeled "socialism".

Republicans are trapped in an outdated worldview. Their backwardness will drive the US further and further back in time, until other countries will surpass the US in productivity and power, eventually making the US irrelevant.

In the coming decades, the EU or China might very well have more power and clout than the US, and this because Republicans are too blind to see that the US cannot maintain its superiority with tax cuts.

What kind of lame economic plan is based on tax cuts?
02:51 PM on 02/05/2009
The Republicans are still thinking Bernake Capitalism
and ol' whatsiname (sans Rand).
He couldn't make it work but they think they've identified
"the flaw" (Democrats) and they can!

Tax credits to businesses to put more products that no
one can now afford on the shelves and in the showroom!
More oil off the coasts, new MacDonalds and Holiday
Inns in The Grand Canyon, open Guantanamo II and III,
another war--maybe closer to home this time--to cut
down on travel time, more socialism at the Ritz
(sharing the spoils-equally)--less at Joe's Hot Dog Stand
and City Tire Service, etc., etc.

More of the same (more is better).
Well, that ought to do it.

Yeah, right.
06:53 AM on 02/05/2009
I am upset with congressional democrats mostly the house and those that wrote this dam bill.
The president elect laid out a foundation of what he wanted the bill to contain, your goal was to take that foundation and improve on it by making it more targeted. Instead the did this dam bill with all this non-stimulus spending. I am all for provide funding to std's & contraception education. But with your majorities in the house & senate did it ever dawn on you that it would be better to put those items through a normal budget bill. Now president Obama is taking the hit for your lack of vision & strategic thinking. I have yet to seen one member of house leadership out there defending this bill.

Had you listen to president Obama and did a bipartisan bill it would have turned out so horrible. I find it amazing that house leadership hasn't been able to think strategically like the obama brain trust has.
Think about, you do the bipartisan works on a good amount of bills and bill trust with the American people. So that when its time for a heavy lifting, say Health care overhaul, if you don't get a lot of republican votes, then you can blame it on the Republicans for not being bipartisan.
serena1313
Condemnation w/o investigation is hgt of ignorance
03:08 AM on 02/05/2009
The only tool we have left is spending our way out of this mess. The interest rates cannot be lowered any lower. Tax-cuts are out of the question. They do not create jobs. 2003 turned out to be one of the lowest rates of job creation in history. Recent history shows tax-cuts go to savings and paying down debt rather than consumption. Businesses have no incentive to invest in production muchless hiring new employees because they have no buyers.

The past 30 years we've heard government spending is wasteful and unnecessary. Both Reagan and Bush opened the spigot of government spending to private enterprise, but nothing was spent on the public good. Now we are at the point where consumers aren't buying. Businesses aren't investing. Overseas buyers aren't buying. Unsold products are piled up in the warehouses.

At this point spending money is the only thing that will create jobs, boost productivity and stimulate investment. Critics want you to believe this is the Democrats wish-list; It's not. There simply are no other options.

Those who complain the bill is filled with pork need to do their fact checking. Stop listening to the right-wing spin. Considering the GOP asked "Joe the plumber," (yes McCain's "Joe the Plumber") to advise them on the economy ... little else need be said!
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whatt
08:10 AM on 02/05/2009
seerena, I wish the gop had just a little of the smarts you display, GOOD COMMENT, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.
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Iam4thiscountry
02:06 AM on 02/05/2009
Now I see they have cut Health care for the Unemployed out of the Recovery Plan (I am not going to call it a Stimulus any more) That is sooo wrong. We (my husband & I) had health insurance until he was laid off. We could have opted out for Copra, but we could not afford it. His company paid for his and deducted $400 (I am rounding) from his checks every month for me. Copra would have cost us $900 a month and he only gets $1200 a month in unemployement benefits. How are we suppose to live on $300 a month? He would rather be working than unemployed. I hope the republicans get the heads out of their ___ real soon.
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KQuarksSuperKollider
02:21 AM on 02/05/2009
I agree with you and thank your nearest GOP rep for that.
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Iam4thiscountry
01:54 AM on 02/05/2009
We do not need a Hand out (Welfare) But, there is nothing wrong with a Hand up. Blood1 is correct. This is a RECOVERY BILL. And Unless it does pass how are we every going to know if it does work. Wouldn't the Republicans be better off Supporting it? Then they can have their cake and eat it too. And you say how is that? Well, if it works then then can say that they helped this country in a bipartisan way. If it doesn't work then they can say "we told you so" but did not want to look like the Party of "NO". But, Instead they just want to look like____.
01:12 AM on 02/05/2009
oops... I meant $6.3 Billion
01:50 PM on 02/05/2009
7/100th of 1 percent of 819B is 573 million
01:10 AM on 02/05/2009
"constitute a mere 7/100th of one percent of the entire package.".....Thats $63 BILLION

$2 Billion for batteries that go in cars no one can afford right now.

$20 billion for construction/ renovation of schools in my area we just build 4 new high schools. Paid by our property taxes. (we all need to go into the construction biz)

$1 billion for Government cars and energy star refrigerators

And why no mention of the 'oversight and administrative costs'? I got to page forty of the house bill and counted $2 billion.
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jjasonham
07:50 AM on 02/05/2009
It must hurt to be so short sighted.
01:50 PM on 02/05/2009
7/100th of 1 percent of 819B is 573 million
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Uchenna Oguekwe
11:21 PM on 02/04/2009
Is it just me or does anyone else find it strange that the leaders on both sides haven't given a major interveiw about what they are trying to do to make this plan work? Compare how many time you have seen Obama giving interviews, answering questions, and meeting with people on the Hill to how many times you've seen Reid, Pelosi, McConnell, or Boehner doing the same. I said it before and I'll say it again, it is not Obama that's the problem, it's the leadership on the Hill. I know the media has been trying to put the fire on Obama and what he is doing, and rightfully so, but they should also be putting the same amount of heat on those on the Hill to do what is right.
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JimR
11:37 AM on 02/05/2009
I agree. This is not a proud moment for Congress, on either side of the aisle.