UN Says Hamas Seized Aid Meant For Gaza Needy

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DIAA HADID | February 4, 2009 05:38 PM EST | AP

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Palestinians receive food aid at a United Nations food distribution center in Shati refugee camp in Gaza City, Wednesday, Feb. 4, 2009. Hamas police in Gaza seized thousands of blankets and food parcels meant for needy residents, said a spokesman for the U.N. agency which distributes the aid on Wednesday, in an incident threatening to fracture relations between the international agency that cares for most of Gaza's residents and the territory's militant rulers. (AP Photo/Hatem Moussa)

JERUSALEM — Armed Hamas police broke into a Gaza warehouse packed with U.N. humanitarian supplies and seized thousands of blankets and food packages, officials said Wednesday.

It was a rare public clash between the international agency that feeds much of the territory and the militant group that rules it. And the incident highlighted difficulties facing donors seeking to bypass Hamas while helping Gazans survive and rebuild after Israel's punishing military operation.

In New York, U.N. deputy spokeswoman Marie Okabe said UNRWA "condemned in the strongest terms" the confiscation of its aid supplies. The U.N. demanded the items be returned, but they remained with Hamas late Wednesday.

Hamas policemen stormed an aid warehouse in Gaza City Tuesday evening and confiscated 3,500 blankets and over 400 food parcels ready for distribution to 500 families, said United Nations Relief and Works Agency spokesman Christopher Gunness.

"They were armed. They seized this. They took it by force," Gunness said, terming the incident "absolutely unacceptable."

The seizure took place after UNRWA staff earlier refused to hand over the aid supplies to the Hamas-run Ministry of Social Affairs, he said. Similar aid packages were distributed to 70,000 residents over the past two weeks, Gunness said.

Ahmad Kurd, the Hamas official in charge of the ministry, did not deny the aid was seized, charging the U.N. was giving the aid to local groups with ties to Hamas opponents.

"UNRWA did not do what it said it would do, and began distributing its aid to groups that tie their activities to political activism," Kurd said, an apparent reference to Fatah, the main opponents of Hamas. In 2007, Hamas overran Gaza, expelling Fatah forces.

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Ihab Ghussein, a spokesman for the Interior Ministry, said the incident occurred because the U.N. was storing the blankets in an unauthorized area. Hamas spokesman Taher Nunu demanded an apology from UNRWA, saying the group was "spreading false news."

But control appeared to be at the heart of the issue.

The ability of Hamas to provide aid is crucial to maintaining support for its rule in the territory. The group claims to have distributed $50 million in emergency cash relief since the end of the incursion.

An 18-month blockade by Israel and Egypt left Gaza critically short of vital supplies, and residents are facing more hardship in the wake of Israel's devastating three-week military offense, which ended Jan. 18. The operation, aimed at halting rocket fire by Palestinian militants, killed 1,300 including hundreds of civilians and left thousands destitute after their homes were damaged or destroyed.

Israel and Gaza have allowed more aid into the territory in recent weeks. UNRWA, which has traditionally served the more than 1 million Palestinians living in Gaza's refugee camps, is expected to take the lead in rebuilding the territory. Israel and the international community label Hamas a terror organization and will not deal with it.

Mkhaimar Abusada, a professor at the Fatah-linked al-Azhar University in Gaza City, said Hamas probably took the supplies to distribute them more widely than the U.N., which supports only refugees.

Senior U.N. official John Ging said aid distribution would continue. "We are not going to punish the refugees for the irresponsible actions of a few," Ging said.

"The stakes are very high," Ging said. "Whatever donors give us by way of assistance has to be fully accounted for."

Some international donors have expressed concern that funds meant to rebuild Gaza could fall into the militant Islamic group's hands, and the U.N. had been trying to calm those fears.

"We are very concerned, but this is an isolated incident, we hope," said Alix de Mauny, a spokeswoman for the European Commission, one of the largest donors to the Palestinians. "We will react accordingly if this develops beyond an isolated incident," de Mauny said. The EC contributed $626 million to the Palestinians in 2008.

On Wednesday, Benjamin Netanyahu, the hard-line candidate for prime minister who is leading in polls a week before Israel's election, charged that Israel's offensive was stopped too early. He said the military should have been allowed to put an end to Hamas arms smuggling from Egypt. He also said, "There is no choice but to uproot the Iranian-backed regime in Gaza."

Israeli officials say the incident vindicated their long-standing claims that Hamas routinely confiscates aid meant for needy Gazans.

"We have said in the past that we know Hamas is stealing humanitarian aid and donations from international organizations," said military spokesman Peter Lerner.

However, Gunness said this was the first time Hamas seized UNRWA supplies. "Does anyone really think that the Americans, who are our single largest donor, or the Europeans, who are our largest multination donor, would give us aid in the generous way they do if they thought that aid would go to terrorists?" Gunness said.

The West Bank-based government of President Mahmoud Abbas, a fierce rival of Hamas, is also sending $600 million in aid, hoping to earn the loyalty of Gaza residents.

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Additional reporting by Ibrahim Barzak and Ben Hubbard in Gaza City, Mohammed Daraghmeh in Ramallah, West Bank, and Aron Heller in Jerusalem.

JERUSALEM — Armed Hamas police broke into a Gaza warehouse packed with U.N. humanitarian supplies and seized thousands of blankets and food packages, officials said Wednesday. It was a rare pub...
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- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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Some people paint a rosy picture of I s r a e l, like Zenju below, and it would be nice to believe in that fairytale he portrays, but here are the facts according to Defense of Children International and the U.N.:

Since 2000:

Israel imprisoned 2,650 children, YES, children!

Approximately 10,000 Pa l es tinian children have been injured (yesterday I mentioned over 1,800, but that was strictly in the recent ma s sa cre on Gaza).

and 1,487 children have been mu r d ere d sinc 2000.

Isr ael has illegally bulldozed 18,147 P a le stinian homes since 1967 to make way for sprawling settlements.

The poverty level on the Gaza strip was 80% BEFORE the ma s s a c re on Gaza. Those 80% are dependent on humanitarian aid that I s ra e l was systematically depriving them of and using as a wea pon against them for Y E A R S.

I s r a el controls the utilities and all borders and shuts them down whenever they feel like it for weeks and months.

On the West Bank P a le st inians have been crowded into small patches of land interspersed between settlements built on illegal land stolen from the Pa lestin ians who are forced to endure 600 checkpoints where they are often har r a ssed and must travel on dirt roads while I s r aelis use new, paved roads and highways.

(continued...below)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 02/05/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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In addition, Pa lestin ians are separated from mosques, hospitals schools and their own fields and crops by a 25ft concrete Wall that has also deprived them of 8% more of their own land.

From time to time, the IDF appear and take over their homes to use them as lookouts when they already have sn ip er towers along the Wall, or just break into their homes at night to pretend they are conducting searches and have often broken through walls to get from one room to another.

Over 6000 Pa l estinians have been k i l l ed and close to 40,000 injured since 2000.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 02/05/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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All these instruments of oppression have one intent in mind: to make P al est in ians lives so miserable that they will be tempted to leave, otherwise known as constructive ethnic clea nsing.

Isr ael has ignored and snubbed dozens of U.N. Resolutions, here are just a few:

http://www.jatonyc.org/UNresolutions.html

70% of ALL Pal es tini an children are suffering from PTSD - Post Tra um atic Stre ss Disorder

This is the life of Pal estin ians. This is the he // they are living in. There is a name for this. It is called A P A R T H E I D. Since South Africa was freed from Apartheid; it is now recognized by the entire world as a cr im e against humanity.

There is no fairytale solution here. The solutions are: Severe sanctions and other measures used in South Africa.

Is r a el is NOT a civilized, democratic state like it pretends to be; it IS the Apartheid State of I s r a e l and has taken all these steps to make the two state-solution impossible and sabotage the creation of a Pa l es t in ian state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 02/05/2009
- ZenJu I'm a Fan of ZenJu 43 fans permalink

The Palestinian refugees are in serious need of a culture change, a fundamentally different way of thinking, and Hamas is helping to keep them mired in delusional thinking that leads to suffering. It's time that the Palestinians realize that they'd be best served by PEACE--real, genuine renunciation of violence leading to dialogue with Israel. Israel met them with the offer of a state in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem in 2000. Certainly, it wasn't EVERYTHING the Palestinians wanted (at least, not in their hearts)...but REALISTICALLY, it was the best offer they'd ever had. Acceptance of permanent borders with a recognized Israel and the embrace of peace would lead to massive international investment, development, and aid; the Palestinians would find prosperity, security, freedom, and long lives for themselves and their children. Hospitals, schools, businesses, parks, roads; most Israelis dream of such a day for their neighbours. No, they will NOT get everything they want. No, it will NOT be easy; we've had to build our nation under gunfire and constant and hideous threats from the Arab world. Yet Israel is a democracy, where the Arabs who did not flee in 1948 are now 20% of our population, citizens, and many flourish. I say to our Arab neighbours: Let's agree to recognize each other, recognize what we can share, and recognize enlightened self-interest. We have much to offer one another. It's time to abandon the illogic of hatred, the folly of anger, the sheer WASTE of war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 AM on 02/05/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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"Yet Israel is a democracy, where the Arabs who did not flee in 1948 are now 20% of our population, citizens, and many flourish."

Where the Arabs who did not flee in 1948... or weren't driven away by mortar attacks and soldiers... or slaughtered outright...

Yeah. You can talk democracy when 20% of the Knesset are Arabs and Arab political parties aren't being routinely disparaged and threatened with blacklisting every election cycle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 02/05/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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To truth"shrouder":

You are on the I and P threads 24/7, okay maybe 24/6. One has only to go to your profile to see that you are the fan atic.

Since the invasion this site has been flooded by "H as ba ra"- the Is r ael i prop a ganda machine. I used to have another Moniker and have been on this site since the Obama primaries, fighting all the way to dispell the deceit being perpetrated against him.

As of January I was forced to change my moniker, as many others were forced to do.

There is only one reason why I am posting against you and your ilk on the I and P sites: to fight the deceit and expose the truth regarding the Apartheid State of I s r a e l. The hatred is not of the si nner but of the si n.

Too bad if it bothers you that I am exposing the cr im es of the so-called civilized democratic state of I s r a e l.

The world needs to know and put an end to the Apartheid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 02/05/2009
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um you've posted on this thread a ridiculous amount of times. one could surmise that you are equally fanatic, my friend.

def. delusional though. this article was about Hamas, not about Israel. Quit trying to propagate your lies, educated, reasonable people know well enough to examine both sides of the Israeli - Palestinian dispute, which you cannot seem to do.

Atrocities have been committed by both side, and the only way to move towards a peaceful solution is for both sides to cease the violence and actually start working and communicating with one another.

when you stick up for groups like hamas, which you have consistently done in this thread, you are supporting violence. plain and simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 02/05/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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I stick up for the t r u t h, and the truth is that the U.N. was given a list by F A T A H to distribute aid to F a t a h p o l i t c a l sympathizers and activists.

The aid should be distributed to EVERYONE irregardless of politics and status and to discri m inate in this way is W R O N G.

I will set the record straight, dispell the deceit and fight the pro pa ga n da left, right and centre and if you don't like it....TOO BAD!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 02/05/2009

The world already knows that you are being fed words and mantras and a few suspicious blogs that you keep posting ad nauseum.

It does NOT make them true or impartial or fair or two sided or helpful

Keep up with the brainwashing , you might get a few lost souls who know nothing of the history of this conflict

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 02/05/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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You really think the mudslinging scores you points in this forum. Even when neconservativism and its faulty tactics were at the height of popularity, they never cared any water on this forum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 02/05/2009

Skilithea, .

I dont know who you are and who do you work for but your obsession with IIsrael is sick and irrational..

That same type of irationality used only by fanatical muslims..

You cannot hear or see the truth because you are blinded by your hatred.

I feel sorry for you. And all like you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 02/05/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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Oh my, an ad hominem. Gee, the pro-Israel lobby is /so/ sophisticated when it comes to debate techniques. How you guys drag down /every/ argument you get involved in? I suppose it's the only way you ever "win" them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 02/05/2009
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Here are some excerpts which put a more regime change context to the story, tajken from:
"UN says Hamas seized food aid, blankets in Gaza
ContentType:Spot Development; ContentElement:FullStory; Breaking:True;
By DIAA HADID
Associated Press Writer "

Excerpts follow:

Christopher Gunness, a spokesman for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, said Hamas policemen broke into an aid warehouse in Gaza City on Tuesday evening and confiscated 3,500 blankets and more than 400 packages of food.

``Does anyone really think that the Americans, who are our single largest donor, or the Europeans, who are our largest multination donor, would give us aid in the generous way they do if they thought that aid would go to terrorists?'' Gunness said.

``We are very concerned, but this is an isolated incident, we hope,'' said Alix de Mauny, an EC spokeswoman. ``We will react accordingly if this develops beyond an isolated incident.''
A donors conference is scheduled to be held in Cairo later this month.

But Ahmad Kurd, the Hamas Minister of Social Affairs, did not deny the aid was seized, countering that the U.N. had been handing out relief to groups tied to Hamas' opponents. [Fatah]

``UNRWA did not do what it said it would do, and began distributing its aid to groups that tie their
activities to political activism,'' Kurd said Wednesday.

U.N. officials said they distributed aid directly to residents according to a list compiled by community leaders [from Fatah].

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 02/05/2009
- courtb I'm a Fan of courtb 19 fans permalink

I love how you pick and choose what you are reporting from the article, especially the parts that aren't actually in the article.

Here is the article, written by Diaa Hadid, which makes no such baseless accusation that the community leaders are Fatah. In fact, if you do a google search of that last sentence with [from Fatah] in it, the only thing that comes up is your post on the Gaza page in HP. Pretty disingenuous, if you ask me, cutting and pasting and adding in your own interpretation. So I'm attaching the full article, so people can read it and make their own decisions.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 02/05/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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Kerpin:

Since September 29, 2000 1,487 Palestinian CHILDREN have been mur dered by I s r a el.

Why is I s r ael targetting Pal est in ian Children???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 02/05/2009
- LAThinker I'm a Fan of LAThinker 17 fans permalink

The question would make any sence if it would be true, but it is a bunch of lies. The trith is the palestinian children are being killed becouse Hamas. So the right querstion is:

Why Hamas targetting Pal est in ian Children???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 02/05/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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The statistics are from the U.N. and 431 were m ur der ed in the mas s acre on Gaza while over 1800 were injured with Dime b om bs and phos phorous explosives (in other words: attempted m ur der).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 AM on 02/05/2009
- kerpin I'm a Fan of kerpin 9 fans permalink

like i've said a million times - lopsided. if you can't recognize there are two sides to this story, you'll never be a legitimate discussant.
Here's an example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matza_restaurant_suicide_bombing
Of the 15 victims, 14 were local Haifa residents, and one a waiter from a nearby town. Two families were completely wiped out, and other families suffered death and grave injuries to multiple family members.

* The Ron family lost father Aviel (54), daughter Anat (21) and son Ofer (17), leaving just the mother alive.
* The Koren family lost father Shimon (52), son Ran (18), and son Gal (15).
* Soheil Adawi (32), waiter
* Dov Chernobroda (47), architect
* Moshe Levin (52)
* Daniel Menchel (22)
* Orly Ofir (16), a soccer player on the Maccabi Haifa girls team.
* Yaacov Shani (53)
* Adi Shiran (17), high school student
* Daniel Carlos Wegman (51), engineer

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 02/05/2009
- cmp I'm a Fan of cmp 3 fans permalink

That's 15 , compared to 1487. What's your point here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 02/05/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

uh...chaos 4700...any comments on the subject of this thread...the stealing on UN provisions by HAMAS???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 02/05/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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Why??? Because you backed yourself into a corner trying to defend the indefensible?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 02/05/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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Yeah. Kind of funny how nochaos is utterly spamming the thread with accusations of people not having a serious discussion... and in the process pushing the actual discussion topics off the page. Although I imagine that's the point -- he's not hear to have a real discussion, but rather to make sure it can't take place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 02/05/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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Wa r cr im es, cri mes agains humanity (apartheid and ethnic cleansing), human rights vi o lations and interfering with elections and the political process.

These are the things that propel me to fights the deceit, which has been I s ra e l's most powerful we apon in the arsenal of oppression.

I intend to fight like a warrior against the deceit that I s r a el has been using for years to keep Pa l estin ians from statehood!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 02/04/2009
- kerpin I'm a Fan of kerpin 9 fans permalink

you should calm down. especially since you have about as much influence on world affairs as a banana peel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 02/04/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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I guess we can't all be members of AIPAC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 02/04/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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Speak for yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 02/04/2009
- cmp I'm a Fan of cmp 3 fans permalink

What would you consider the appropriate response to 60 years of unbearable oppression? Ahh, let's see. We'll call them Hamas and label them and Iran the worst threats EVER, to the safety of the civilized world. It begs one to wonder, if we had supported the Palestinians, instead of the Isrealis during the 73 Yom Kippur war, there might well be peace and prosperity in the Middle East today. Isreal is a bully and needs to be taken to task.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 02/05/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

You sound like a Hamas leader!! Nice! Keep up the rants! The folks like to see the REAL you!! Your talking points are right on!! All lies...but right on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 02/04/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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Although I view H am as as a resistance group; they have perpetrated vi o lent acts.

I abhor vi o lence of any kind as much as I abhor the acts of oppression that push individuals to such desperation.

For this reason, I demand that you stop associating me with this group PUBLICLY! This is called slander. Associating someone with a group that is regarded as a t e r r orist group when you know absolutely nothing about me is SLANDER!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

And when your "fighting like a warrior" is over...what do you expect the outcome to be?? (this ought to be really good!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 02/04/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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American Revolution? I suppose our own history gives us certain expectations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 02/04/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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I am just one voice...one voice that can change a room, can change a country and can change the world.

I find it hard to believe that a country, which is supposedly a civilized democracy is perpetrating cri m es of the magnitude I have already described on another nation, and the world has yet to denounce their actions.

I will be one of many voices pushing for the day when the entire world will denounce Is r a el as an Apartheid State and take action like it did in South Africa.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

SKIALETHIA...HAVE YOU EVER WORKED FOR HAMAS OR EVER CONTRIBUTED MONEY TO THEM??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 02/04/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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You have now entered the fruitcake zone, sir.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

Back from the Hamas rally?? Did you buy a flag for SKIALETHIA??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 02/04/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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I will only warn you once to stop slandering and disparaging me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

Now a question is a slander??? I accused you of nothing!!! Get a life!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

I'm shaking in my boots!! Please..mommy...the big bad arab person is after me..help!! LMAO!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 02/04/2009
- courtb I'm a Fan of courtb 19 fans permalink

See my post above, although I'm glad to see your listening skills are as sharp as ever.

It's not slander. Slander is oral defamation and you have a shaky case for libel at best.

And nochaos, seriously, you are not helping at all. Please stop calling people names and acting like a child so that the grown ups can have a proper conversation. Actually, that applies to you, skialethia, as well. Your hysterical, irrational posts do little to help your case and your refusal to listen and try to understand will never help anyone in need as no situation in the entire world is black and white.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 AM on 02/05/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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"Mkhaimar Abusada, a professor at the Fatah-linked al-Azhar University in Gaza City, said Hamas probably took the supplies to distribute them more widely than the U.N., which supports only refugees."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8343060

The aid should be distributed to EVERYONE regardless of status and political affiliation!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

So a professor at the PLO linked University is believable now?? (Fatah is the PLO) The PLO ,like Kentucky Fried Chicken, changed its name . One became KFC...onr became FATAH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 02/04/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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Once Irgun, now Likud. Funny how that sword has an edge on both sides.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

Why would anyone believe this guy over UN workers and bureaucrats?? Noone normal would...so I guess you do!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 02/04/2009
- cmp I'm a Fan of cmp 3 fans permalink

Why would anyone believe MSM, like yourself. Maybe you believed Bush when he said "they hate us for our freedom", or "weapons of mass destruction", but I didn't. Never swallowed that swill for a minute. As a matter of fact, I bust out laughing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 02/05/2009
- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 101 fans permalink
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They *are* the duly elected government. What was the UN expecting?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

So..just because they were elected they can steal from the UN?? Makes no sense!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

The Nazis were the duly elected government of Germany....was stealing the property of millions of people acceptable because they were ......duly elected??? Moronic logic at best!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 02/04/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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You do realize that the Nazis, once gaining majority control of the Weimar Republic, abolished democracy and established a totalitarian state? I really wish you unpatriotic people would stop denigrating the value of democracy. As an American, I find it deeply offensive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 02/04/2009
- courtb I'm a Fan of courtb 19 fans permalink

Really interesting article which displays that no one is doing what is necessary for the Palestinian people. Hamas rewards party members and disregards everyone else, such as threatening to shoot a farmer who once asked them not to fire rockets from his farm and killing Fatah members and anyone who publicly denounces Hamas (swell guys, huh). And then you have Israel, who, to try and prevent Hamas from rebuilding weapons and bunkers is also preventing goods in that Palestinians desperately need to rebuild their homes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/4414395/How-Hamas-is-reasserting-itself-in-Gaza-using-money-manpower-and-force.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 02/04/2009
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In another story the UN representative essentially admitted that the UN was doing what Hamas claimed - handing out aid specifically to opponents of Hamas with the aim of furthering regime change.

The UN is part of the problem. It is really only the security council which has any power in the UN and that is dominated by oil powers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

PLEASE CITE WHERE YOU SAW THAT "OTHER STORY"??? Hard to believe ONLY YOU saw it! The chances of you telling the truth here is negligible!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

It has been a half hour since you posted this rubbish! Hit and run junk! No cite...no reason to believe you!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

Hamas has shown that not only are they terrorists...but thieves,too! No surprise!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 02/04/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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Why would they need the humanitarian aid if they have been distributing cash to the victims to the tune of $50 million???

- Becasue they want the aid distributed to EVERYONE without political discrimination of any kind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 02/04/2009
- Vickster I'm a Fan of Vickster 16 fans permalink
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And how do you know what Hamas wants to do? Can you read their minds?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

Read the article...just THE OPPOSITE is true!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

As Hamas produces NOTHING...where did they get the $50MILLION???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 02/04/2009
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what rock have you been hiding under? Have you not read ANYTHING about Hamas openly executing their political opponents these past weeks??

And Hamas has previously confiscated aid from charities, including the Red Crescent, because they were handing out aid to people that supported Fatah.

why on earth do you think Hamas is going to suddenly change and start handing out aid to all Gazans?? They won't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 02/04/2009
- LAThinker I'm a Fan of LAThinker 17 fans permalink

I am so proud of Hamas they feed the hungry, help the poor,
Saints every single one of them

Here are some of theire most honorable deads

http://www.ucubd.com/Index.aspx?id=1091&cid=d0100000

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 02/04/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 171 fans permalink
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H a mas is a militant group fighting the oppression imposed by I s r a el on a people who are being held hostage and imprisoned on their own land, while Is r ael commits war c r im es, crimes against humanity and human rights vi o lations against them.

H a mas has also provided humanitarian aid and social services to these people and have built hospitals, schools, libraries, and other social service structures, while I s r ae l bombed all of these out of existence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 02/04/2009
- nochaos I'm a Fan of nochaos 5 fans permalink

As Israel won that land from Egypt as a result of winning a war......when did it EVER belong to a legitimate "Palestinian" entity?? The arabs you praise LOST EVERY WAR...so they get to get the land back because YOU said so??? A BAD JOKE!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 02/04/2009
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QUIT WITH THE LIES. you are seriously delusional.

this is an organization that deliberately targets civilians with rockets and suicide bombers. Israel has at least made some attempts to target military targets (yes i know this is debatable). but hamas has sent women and CHILDREN out as suicide bombers. real nice.

Maybe you are not familiar with Hamas' record: their treatment of journalists, alleged members of the fatah party, etc. This is an organization that glorifies death for their cause. Read their literature, it is scary how anti-Semitic it is.

It is truly frightening the way you stick up for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 02/04/2009
- cmp I'm a Fan of cmp 3 fans permalink

RIGHT!! Absolutely, dead-on, hit the nail on the head, right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 02/05/2009
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