Petraeus Leaked Misleading Story On Pullout Plans: IPS Analysis

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Inter Press Service   |  Gareth Porter   |   February 9, 2009 09:17 PM

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WASHINGTON, Feb 9 (IPS) - The political maneuvering between President Barack Obama and his top field commanders over withdrawal from Iraq has taken a sudden new turn with the leak by CENTCOM commander Gen. David Petraeus - and a firm denial by a White House official - of an account of the Jan. 21 White House meeting suggesting that Obama had requested three different combat troop withdrawal plans with their respective associated risks, including one of 23 months.

The Petraeus account, reported by McClatchy newspapers Feb. 5 and then by the Associated Press the following day, appears to indicate that Obama is moving away from the 16-month plan he had vowed during the campaign to implement if elected. But on closer examination, it doesn't necessarily refer to any action by Obama or to anything that happened at the Jan. 21 meeting.

The real story of the leak by Petraeus is that the most powerful figure in the U.S. military has tried to shape the media coverage of Obama and combat troop withdrawal from Iraq to advance his policy agenda - and, very likely, his personal political interests as well.

This writer became aware of Petraeus's effort to influence the coverage of Obama's unfolding policy on troop withdrawal when a military source close to the general, who insisted on anonymity, offered the Petraeus account on Feb. 4. The military officer was responding to the IPS story 'Generals Seek to Reverse Obama Withdrawal Decision' published two days earlier.

The story reported that Obama had rejected Petraeus's argument against a 16-month withdrawal option at the meeting and asked for a withdrawal plan within that time frame, and that Petraeus had been unhappy with the outcome of the meeting.

It also reported that Gen. Ray Odierno, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, and retired Army general Jack Keane, a close ally of Petraeus, had both made public statements indicating a determination to get Obama to abandon the 16-month plan.

The officer told IPS that, contrary to the story, Petraeus had been "very pleased" with the direction of the discussions. He said that there had been no decision by Obama at the meeting and no indication that Obama had a preference for one option over another.

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The military source provided the following carefully worded statement: "We were specifically asked to provide projections, assumptions and risks for the accomplishment of objectives associated with 16-, 19- and 23-month drawdown options." That was exactly the sentence published by McClatchy the following day, except that "specifically" was left out.

The source also said Petraeus, Odierno and Ambassador Ryan Crocker had already reached a "unified assessment" on the three drawdown options and had forwarded them to the chain of command.

But a White House official told IPS Monday that the Petraeus account was untrue. "The assessments of the three drawdown dates were not requested by the president," said the official, who insisted on not being identified because he had not been authorised to comment on the matter. "He never said, 'Give me three drawdown plans'."

McClatchy's Nancy Youssef reported a similar account from aides to Obama. "Obama told his advisors shortly after taking office that he remained committed to the 16-month timeframe," Youssef wrote, "but asked them to present him with the pros and cons of that and other options, without specifying dates."

That suggests that the only specific plan for which Obama requested an assessment of risks was the 16-month plan, but that he agreed to look at other plans as well.

The sentence given to this writer as well as to McClatchy bore one obvious clue that the request for the assessments of three drawdown plans did not come from Obama: the sentence used the passive voice. It also failed to explicitly state that the request in question was made during the meeting with Obama.

Petraeus did not respond to a request through the intermediary to say who requested the studies and whether they had been proposed by the military commanders themselves. McClatchy's Youssef also noted that it is "unclear who came up with the idea..." of the 19- and 23-month withdrawal plans.

By implying that Obama had requested the three plans without saying so explicitly, the sentence leaked by Petraeus seems to have been calculated to create a misleading story.

One of Petraeus's objectives appears to have been to counter any perception that he is seeking to undermine Obama on Iraq policy. Petraeus wishes to remain out of the spotlight in regard to any conflict regarding withdrawal over the Iraq issue. "He has been very careful to keep a very low profile," said the military officer close to Petraeus, "because this is a new administration."

But the Petraeus leak also serves to promote the idea that Obama is moving away from his campaign pledge on a 16-month combat troop withdrawal, which has already been the dominant theme in news media coverage of the issue. That idea would also justify continued sniping by military officers at the Obama 16-month plan as too risky.

In a new book, 'The Gamble', to be published Tuesday, Washington Post reporter Tom Ricks confirms an earlier report that in his initial encounter with Petraeus in Baghdad last July, Obama had made no effort to hide his sharp disagreement with the general's views. Obama interrupted a lecture by Petraeus, according to Ricks, and made it clear that, as president, he would need to take a broader strategic view of the issue than that of the commander in Iraq.

Ricks, who interviewed Petraeus about the meeting, writes that Obama's remarks "likely insulted Petraeus, who justly prides himself on his ability to do just that..." That strongly implies that Petraeus expressed some irritation at Obama over the incident to Ricks.

On top of the interest of Petraeus and other senior officers in keeping U.S. troops in Iraq for as long as possible, Petraeus has personal political interests at stake in the struggle over Iraq policy. He has been widely regarded as a possible Republican Presidential candidate in 2012.

Petraeus evidently believed the White House was promoting a story that made him look like the loser at the Jan. 21 meeting. "I imagine the White House is not too happy that this information is out there," said the military source, referring to the Petraeus account he had provided to IPS.

Obama is obviously treading warily in handling Petraeus. His concern about Petraeus's political ambitions may have been a factor in the decision to bring four-star Marine Corps Gen. James Jones in as his national security adviser.

"I've been told by a couple of people that one of the reasons for Jones being chosen was to have him there as a four-star to counter Petraeus," says one Congressional source.

*Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist specialising in U.S. national security policy. The paperback edition of his latest book, "Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam", was published in 2006.

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- acacia72 I'm a Fan of acacia72 5 fans permalink

PRESIDENT Obama should publicly call Betray-us on the carpet and ask him exactly what he thought he was doing, and why. Embarass Betray-us, is what I say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

it will never happpen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 02/11/2009
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corrected

it will never happen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 02/11/2009
- bobbybo I'm a Fan of bobbybo 18 fans permalink

This is a repercussion of W letting the military men set the agenda for him. The Pres had better get this under control or Petraus will become his McArthur.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 02/11/2009
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Or worse. Note the timing between Dick Cheney's dire warnings of te rr orism if we don't continue thigs as he has them set up, with Patreus's attempt to manipulate Americans' perception of Obama's perception as a leader. I think it's more propable than not that Cheney and some military leaders are working in collusion to continue the implementation of the neocon's agenda.

If Cheney is working with Patreus, and they can't eunuch Obama's perception as an American President, or if they cannot convince him to do it their way, a military c ou p is certainly in the range of possibilities.

I'd like to know how much Petreus is getting paid for this. He's risking his military career and his perception as a mlitary leader in doing this obvious slap-in-the-face manipulation of President Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 02/11/2009
- susie1776 I'm a Fan of susie1776 5 fans permalink

Does anybody remember a general by the name of MacArthur who decided he knew better than the President of the United States and what happened to him??? Truman relieved him of command as a reminder that the PRESIDENT is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF and makes the final decisions. Petraeus is only valuable as long as he gives the President sound advice but the fact that he supposedly LEAKED this false story tells me he has forgotten that Bush is no longer in the WH and Petraues is no longer in charge. Kick him to the curb!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

but that was a president with a spine.....­.it will take Mr. b.o. a lot longer to exercise that kind of muscle

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 02/11/2009
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You continue to voice this opinion, but without support. Why do you think he doesn't have a spine?

All you have to do is look at Obama's conduct during the presidential campaigns and before to see that he is not a wimp. Speaking metaphorically, he must have balls the size of oranges.

He is putting his own obsession as being seen as a uniter ahead of getting the best stimulus bill we can get. We don't have the luxury of his concern about his own image when he economy is diving deeply and quickly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 02/11/2009
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 275 fans permalink
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An entry for Petraeus and some HPO posteres:

se·di·tion (s-dshn)
n.
1. Conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of a state.
2. Insurrection; rebellion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

rebellion give me a break please

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 02/11/2009
- bruster55 I'm a Fan of bruster55 3 fans permalink

It is time for petraeus to go.

He is apparently a very bad military officer and should be forced to retire.

We are at a time of war. Loose lips sink ships.

Remove him immediately.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

really what ship was sunk by his words.....­.....your mind has wandered we are in 2009 not the 1940s

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 02/11/2009
- bruster55 I'm a Fan of bruster55 3 fans permalink

Apparently your mind is not working. If you do not see the danger in Military people speaking out of turn, then you must be a Republican. and we all know that is the lowest form of man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 02/11/2009
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 275 fans permalink
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You're just h-bent on defending the wrong side oh history wherever you can find it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 02/11/2009
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Coming with on the heels of Dick Cheney's prediction of doom if we don't continue all of his policies, I think there is a collusion going on here, with Cheney doing the set-up and Petreus then coming in with fire.

Petreus' loyalty appears to be to Dick Cheney and the neocon who ran the Bush Jr administration.

I agree: Petreus must go. IMO, this has the stench of miltary co u p in it, and it has to be stopped immediately.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 02/11/2009
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Obama had better nip this in the bud,or we might end up with a military c o u p on our hands.

The fact that Dick Cheey came out last week with his bizarre statements, and then Patreus coming out shortly after with a leaked statement clearly meant to undermine Obama's support on his approach to the military occupation of Iraq.

Clearly, Cheney did the fear/ te rr or set-up to prime Americans to be even more upset by Patreus' leaked implied Obama statement.

I had hoped that, after Bush/Cheney left office that there would be an end to them ter ror izing Americans with their fear/end-o­f-the-worl­d statements. Unfortunately, that does not seem to be the case and, in light of the Cheney/Patreus collusion, we need to watch Cheney and the military leadership for evidence of further attempts to control Obama's foreign policy positions by continued fear/ t err or statements.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

Mr. bo does not have the intestinal fortitude to fire the general...­...and deal with the backlash

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 02/11/2009
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 275 fans permalink
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Watch

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 02/11/2009
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Just my opinion here and, of course, your mileage may vary, but...

As with the Dem politicians in Congress, I don't think the problem rests in any of their body parts (neither their spine or intestines), but in an agenda that they have set for themselves that may supercede what's best for the country.

For a politician to have reached that level of politics (Congress or President), they have to have balls the size of oranges. They have to be aggressive, ruthless, smart, and very good strategians. Obama is certainly all of those things.

I have been so infuriated by Obama's apparent need to be the uniter being placed ahead of what is good for this country. The GOP has a firmly established pattern that will take months to years to overcome: petty, driven to power over substance, vindictive, thuggish. Our economy is in such a state that we cannot have a president putting his own concerns about his image ahead of whether or not our economy recovers.

The time for bipartisanship is after the first stimulus bill is passed. This bill has been gutted of the parts that would give our economy a kick in the keister to get it going.

Worse, he has communicated to the GOP that he will back down on important policy issues if the GOP challenges him. Not good That's what we had before. We don't need the added humiliation of having a Democratic Party president and STILL being treated like doormats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 02/11/2009

There is only one true assessment of both Iraq and Afghanistan and that is American troops have to get out as soon as possible. At some point in time Americans will revolt against the money and lives lost through these ridiculous campaigns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

at some point all wars end.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 02/11/2009
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 275 fans permalink
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Yes, when people have the courage to end them./

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 02/11/2009

THIS POST FROM "THE PEOPLES DAILY", BEIJING APPLIES EQUALLY WELL TO THE GENERAL VIS A VIS CIVILIAN AUTHORITY:

The Central Military Commission (CMC) of Communist Party of China (CPC) has called for all service personnel in the country's military forces to show absolute obedience to the Party. The call was made at a CMC meeting presided over by Hu Jintao, Chairman of CPC Central Military Commission. All military forces should unify their will to the decision and deployment of the CPC Central Committee to ensure that they "uncompromisingly obey the Party and Central Military Commission's command at any time and under any circumstances", said a statement issued Sunday by the commission.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

laughing..­......he still has freedom of speech out of uniform...­.....like it or not if Mr bo doesn't like it fire him.......­...but then that would release him to speak freely

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 02/11/2009
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 275 fans permalink
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That is where you are wrong. The only way "out of uniform" for a general is retirement. He has no right to speak publicly in opposition to the commander in chief. You may believe he does but that will not make you correct, only i g n o r a n t of the facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 02/11/2009

Source: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KB11Ak01.html
Extract -

On top of the interest of Petraeus and other senior officers in keeping US troops in Iraq for as long as possible, Petraeus has personal political interests at stake in the struggle over Iraq policy. He has been widely regarded as a possible Republican presidential candidate in 2012.

Obama is obviously treading warily in handling Petraeus. His concern about Petraeus' political ambitions may have been a factor in the decision to bring four-star Marine Corps General James Jones in as his national security adviser.

"I've been told by a couple of people that one of the reasons for Jones being chosen was to have him there as a four-star to counter Petraeus," said one Congressional source.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 02/11/2009
- ricland I'm a Fan of ricland 2 fans permalink
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This points to a weakness in Obama that really is beginning to concern me.

Petraeus was not only a rabid McCain supporter, he all but said the world as we know it will come to an end if Obama becomes president.

Clearly, he was betting the farm on McCain. Then when Obama won, he surely had his resignation written out and ready to hand over.

Bottom line, Obama is afraid of these military guys. This explains why he continued to kiss McCain's ass after he beat him.

Petraeus wants the war to last forever because when it ends his career ends.

Petraeus will continue to put knifes in Obama's back as long as Obama lets him

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 02/11/2009
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"Petraeus was not only a rabid McCain supporter, he all but said the world as we know it will come to an end if Obama becomes president.­"

Please provide a direct quote where Petraeus said those things. I think you are imagining things.

"Petraeus wants the war to last forever because when it ends his career ends."

Absurd. He doesn't want the war to last forever; he wants to draw down troops gradually and maintain a residual force, just as Obama does. Also, he is CENTCOM commander, and we always have someone in charge of the major commands whether there is war on or not. Additionally, Obama wants to increase troops in Afghanistan, and Petraeus is in charge of Afghanistan and the Middle East, so he has plenty to do even without Iraq. I'm sorry, but if you didn't know this, then you are not qualified to comment on this subject.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 02/11/2009
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I don't care about all that.

He should be fired that's one think I know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 02/11/2009
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Who Petreus supported in the election is immaterial to this issue. What Petreus wants to do in Iraq is immatrial to this issue. The issue, IMO, is this: he issued to Obama a confrontation and slap-in-the-face when he attempted to undermine Obama's presidency.

That's way too close to a c ou p for my likes.

Petreus needs to go and immediately. If his lie about what Obama said qualifies him for military prosecution, that should be done as well. He is a dangerous man where he is now. An example needs to be set which will deter other mlitary officers from trying to use their position in the military to undermine President Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

of course he will......­......good

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 02/11/2009
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 275 fans permalink
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So you condone the subversion of a duly elected US government? That tells us all we need to know about you. Why do you hate America?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 02/11/2009
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 275 fans permalink
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I agree that "Betrayus" presents a concern but I would counter the notion that the situation shows a weakness in the President. If he comes in and categorically dismisses the power structure Boosh put in place, any instability will be blamed on him. It will take time to get his people burrowed in to the upper echelons of the military power structure, one that Bushco has tried to protect. In time, you will see Gates, Petraeus and Odierno as well as their friend Keane ... removed from power. They have a choice. Submit to the new President and the US Constitution or be removed in shame down the road. I think O is trying to let them do the right thing and save face. It seems they see it as an opportunity to continue the Boosh doctrine. Six months, watch it play out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

of course .........s­o

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 02/11/2009
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Members of the armed forces, while on active duty, are not supposed to get involved in political decisions. The current President is the Commander in Chief, just as George Bush was during his 8 years. It is Petraeus's duty to follow orders or resign. This is not the first time the General has stepped over the line. It is time for him to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

so make him go ......laug­hing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 02/11/2009
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 275 fans permalink
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soon

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 02/11/2009
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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When did Petraeus ever get involved in politics? Please be specific.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

he has not.......­......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 02/11/2009
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Several times during the campaigns. Specifically, when he vomited the Bushco, INC talking points on Iraq instead of giving a real assessment. If you didn't see it before, you will not see it now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 02/11/2009

I was really impressed with his questioning by the Senate. It sounded a heck of a lot like he was on the stump for McCain.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2008-04-08-petraeus-remarks_N.htm

You read this and wonder why in the heck he is giving the main credit for decreased violence to the 'surge'. You also wonder if there will ever come a time whe HE thinks we should leave Iraq. One would almost think he thinks HE is Commander in Chief.

I really scratched my head over this one:"As our primary mission is to help protect the population, we closely monitor the number of Iraqi civilians killed due to violence. As this chart (Slide 2) reflects, civilian deaths have decreased over the past year to a level not seen since February 2006"

Wow! Even though we had implemented the surge and had also sent a second surge? Despite the Sunni awakening? Despite the fact that Iraq has also conducted a surge, adding well over 100,000 additional soldiers and police to the ranks of its security forces in 2007 and slowly increasing its capability to deploy and employ these forces? Despite the cease-fire declared by Moqtada al-Sadr?
Despite all these things that have been done since February 2006, the best it accomplished was the SAME amount of civilian deaths that had occured in 2/2006?

Note to Petraeus. They want us out of there. This is the United States, not ancient Rome.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 02/11/2009
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I agree. But it should be taken a step further.

He should not just allowed t resign. If his lies intended to undermine the presidency is prosecutable, Petreus should be prosecuted and penalized.

This is absolutely outrageous, and very, very dangerous for our country. To tell the world that a 4-star officer does not support his Commander in Chief is like telling the world "C o up Possiblity­."

An example must be set so that we don't have to deal with this kind of equine fec es again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 02/11/2009
- ptobe I'm a Fan of ptobe 5 fans permalink

NOW he deserves the moniker General Betray-us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 02/11/2009
- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 63 fans permalink
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he did before too

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 02/11/2009
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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For turning around Iraq when no one thought it could be done? Why do you have a problem with that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 02/11/2009
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One way to neuter Petraeus without making him a martyr is to reassign him to a new post -- one created specially for him -- that takes him completely out of the public eye. His duties should be related to issues of national security such that they cannot be discussed in anything more than the vaguest of terms.

These dangerous and power-hungry men with stars on their collars and shoulders need to be reminded in a very clear and forceful way that they don't set policy and are subordinate and answer to a CIVILIAN government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

that will not happen either....­.as someone else will speak for the general to undermine Mr. bo........­a civilian most likely

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 02/11/2009
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Why do you say he's dangerous and power-hungry? On what do you base that besides your imagination?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 02/11/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 70 fans permalink

based on hot air.......­.laughing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 02/11/2009
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When a general publicly undermines the commander in chief's stated policy objectives, he asserts a power beyond what he actually possesses. That gap evinces 'power hunger.'

It would have been OK if Petraeus had simply made his case to President Obama in private, arguing as forcefully as he possibly could. Disagreement and opposing points of view are part of a healthy debate on the merits of a proposal (although that's something Rethuglicans obviously didn't believe when they occupied the WH).

But it is NOT acceptable for Petraeus to lose the argument in private and then take it public. That borders on insubordination and demonstrates a hunger for more power. Generals do NOT set foreign policy; they execute it as directed by their civilian SUPERIORS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 02/11/2009
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What get out while there's still a pile of money to be made off John Q. Public? That goes against military intelligence, not to mention military protocol.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 02/11/2009

It would serve his purpose should Obama get him kicked out of the military and make a martyr of him. No, relieve him of duty, bring him home, put him in a position where he can be watched at all times, and do a stop loss on him. Prevent him from leaving the Army so he can't run for president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 02/11/2009
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that will not happen either....­.as someone else will speak for the general to undermine Mr. bo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 02/11/2009
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He is already home--he's CENTCOM Commander, stationed in Florida. Also, stop-loss is only done on enlisted personnel. He can't be forced to stay in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 02/11/2009
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