Obama Reviewing Ban On Photos Of Flag-Draped Coffins

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LARA JAKES | February 10, 2009 03:34 PM EST | AP

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In this file photo, date unknown, made by the U.S. Department of Defense and obtained by thememoryhole.org, flag-draped coffins of U.S .war casualties are seen aboard a cargo plane in Dover, Del. President Barack Obama said Monday, Feb. 9, 2009, his administration is reviewing a policy that bans the media from photographing flag-draped coffins of fallen U.S. soldiers. The president says his advisers are discussing with the Defense Department the prohibition on pictures of coffins returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.(AP Photo/thememoryhole.org/file)

Defense Secretary Robert Gates ordered a review Tuesday of a Pentagon policy banning media from taking pictures of flag-draped coffins of military dead, signaling he was open to overturning the policy to better honor fallen soldiers.

At least two Democratic senators have called on President Barack Obama to let news photographers attend ceremonies at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware and other military facilities when military remains are returned to the United States. Obama told reporters Monday he was reviewing the ban.

"If the needs of the families can be met, and the privacy concerns can be addressed, the more honor we can accord these fallen heroes, the better," Gates told reporters at a Pentagon news conference Tuesday. "So I'm pretty open to whatever the results of this review may be."

Gates said he initially asked for the ban to be reviewed a year ago, and was advised then that family members might feel uncomfortable with opening the ceremonies to media for privacy reasons or pressure to attend them despite financial costs.

"I think that looking at it again makes all kinds of sense," Gates said. "And we will do so, and I've put a fairly short deadline on that effort."

Shortly after Obama took office, Democratic Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey also asked the White House to roll back the ban that was put in place in 1991 by President George H.W. Bush.

However, some exceptions to the policy were made, allowing the media to photograph coffins in some cases, until the administration of President George W. Bush and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In a Feb. 9 letter to Obama, Lautenberg said the Pentagon should develop a new policy to allow "respectful" media coverage while protecting the privacy of the victims and their families. Generally, the remains in the caskets are not publicly identified.

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"I respectfully urge you to work to bring an end to the misguided policies of the past that seek to hide the sacrifice of our soldiers and the public recognition and pride that should accompany it," Lautenberg wrote.

He said the George W. Bush administration "effectively censored images of flag-draped caskets from appearing in media coverage."

A leading military families group says the policy, enforced without exception during the administration of President George W. Bush, should let survivors of the dead decide whether photographers can record their return.

John Ellsworth, president of Military Families United who lost a son in Iraq in 2004, said the survivors should be able to decide whether the coffins should be photographed.

"We don't necessarily think it should be banned. I think they could modify it to give a little latitude to the families," Ellsworth said several weeks ago. "Some people want to celebrate the lives of their fallen, and share their fallen hero with the American people, while others want to hold them a little closer to the vest and keep it private. We should respect that.

"It shouldn't be up to the government to hide these images to the public," he said. "But at the same time, I don't know that we can allow the press to overstep the bounds of good taste in some of these instances."

A University of Delaware professor who unsuccessfully sued to force the government to release pictures of flag-draped coffins returning home said taxpayers should see the cost of war.

"Of course we respect the families, but none of these caskets is identified in any way and there's no invasion of privacy in the first place," said Ralph Begleiter, a professor at the University of Delaware and a former world affairs correspondent for CNN.

The fallen troops "died for all of us _ they died for the nation, they died for the cause," Begleiter said in a January interview. "It's a right for all Americans to pay their respects for those who made the sacrifice. It is not a right held exclusively for the families themselves."

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Jakes reported from Ottawa, Canada.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates ordered a review Tuesday of a Pentagon policy banning media from taking pictures of flag-draped coffins of military dead, signaling he was open to overturning the policy...
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- Grannysue I'm a Fan of Grannysue 132 fans permalink
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I agree with the fallens family members these services should be shown, if nothing else, so we can show respect to their soldiers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 02/10/2009
- Aesthete I'm a Fan of Aesthete 32 fans permalink

I know from first hand experience that the image of multiple coffins, flag-draped or not, arriving from a war zone, is a devastating and emotionall­y-wrenchin­g sight. Once, when my sisters and I were returning home by train from a Spring break excursion, we were running a bit late for our train and took a shortcut through a cargo-handling area. We passed through a room that was stacked nearly to the ceiling with coffins that had just arrived from Viet Nam. Needless to say, we cried almost all the way home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 02/10/2009

A stark reminder of the true cost of war. Your tears were well deserved by those who died for their country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 02/10/2009
- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 49 fans permalink

The cure for 8 years of W is getting to be painful. Pres Obama should go about this painful job quickly, Doing it quickly is possible since Pres Obamam unlike W, isn't a divisive force in America. Seeing the coffins in a USAF plane will be painful for all but it's past time to honor our war dead. I will let others discuss if these wars are just. I can't do it as I try to honor our war dead. I lack the courage to do that now. These 2 wars have caused many people in the Middle East to mourn too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 02/10/2009
- Joeblue I'm a Fan of Joeblue 5 fans permalink

I know, let's end this thing and bring everybody home including the 5 million orphans Bush created.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 02/10/2009

good idea......­...then make all the pro lifers adopt them

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 02/10/2009
- JSDKoeln I'm a Fan of JSDKoeln 4 fans permalink

Yes! And the anti-gay people too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 02/10/2009
- mollymac I'm a Fan of mollymac 15 fans permalink

I believe that the public wants and needs to know about Bush's folly. He and his crew of war mongers should have their actions shoved in their faces. Of course, Bush has been quiet, but he knows what he is responsible for. And in spite of the wingnuts, so do we! Let Obama expose the loss of all the brave young soldiers who have died for W's ego. I hope he finds in favor of the families, should they decide it is what they want, or do not want, to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 02/10/2009
- Yamunation I'm a Fan of Yamunation 3 fans permalink

Banning war photos takes away freedom of the press.

It is one of the reasons people approve of the war, because they really don't see the heinous things that go on, and if they saw the photos of coffins, it would create a negative emotional reaction that would undermine support for the war. Photos of soldiers' legs blown off...it's gross but we need to see it. Let's stop living in a bubble where we hide from anything we don't want to see of hear. That doesn't' make it go away, and it just makes us ignorant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 02/10/2009
- hialoha I'm a Fan of hialoha 17 fans permalink

It will be changed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 02/10/2009
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I wonder when the American public will be alerted to the real mortaIity rates from the Iraq war?

The DoD has been lying to the American people for the last 5 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 02/10/2009

How much longer do we need to be welcoming and kind to tsewydoow's disrespectful taunts? I've flagged him several times. He is not engaging in constructive dialog, and in this instance:

"Koolaid drinker? You are bathing in the stuff.

Please reconsider volunteering at the VA hospital. These brave and patriotic people should not be exposed to your anti-American point of view."

he is nothing short of spoiling for a fight, hiding behind his backwards (appropriate) name.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 02/10/2009
- MJinCanada I'm a Fan of MJinCanada 114 fans permalink

The guy seriously needs his meds checked.

Or he's lonely and bitter because when he goes to the coffee shop, everybody gets up and moves away from him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 02/10/2009
- Vige I'm a Fan of Vige 6 fans permalink
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I think the families should be considered first and I am sure the President will do that. Not only has there been a ban on the incoming caskets there has also been a ban on the funerals and internments. Some families have requested the media be present and that has been blocked by the Pentagon.

The families are the ones who have sacrificed the most and the decision should belong to them.

At the same time the MSM needs to turn a very bright spotlight on the number of suicides of returning soldiers. This month that number exceeded the number of casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

That same spotlight also needs to be turned on the increasing number of homeless vets and why that number is what it is and increasing.

Much needs to be evaluated when it comes to those who sacrifice so much for our country. They deserve a nation of people who care in ways that exceed the lip service of "Thank You for Your Service."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 02/10/2009
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 641 fans permalink
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"Review"? Just Fix It. The only people who need to "Review" the BushYears are prosecutors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 02/10/2009
- tsewydoow I'm a Fan of tsewydoow 4 fans permalink

Why waste prosecutors' time when there is nothing to prosecute?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 02/10/2009
- j.gold I'm a Fan of j.gold 4 fans permalink

you live in a dream world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 02/10/2009
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How is that possible? It is fact, for example, that waterboarding is torture and that torture is illegal. Crimes have undeniably been committed.

Investigations MUST happen, and those who appear to be guilty MUST be prosecuted and, if appropriate, found guilty and sentenced.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 02/10/2009
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 227 fans permalink

Even Bush's staunchest supporters consider him a li@r.

Because he must be lying if he didn't commit crimes, since he and Chen3y admitted to them on TV....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 02/10/2009
- lunchlady I'm a Fan of lunchlady 17 fans permalink

Good. Put them on the front page, with an obituary. How about viewing them on the White House web site?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 02/10/2009
- JackND I'm a Fan of JackND 28 fans permalink

Ed Henry asked about his last night.

Frankly I don't see what kind of "evaluation" or "review" Obama thinks he needs to do here. It seems clear to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 02/10/2009
- blaharumph I'm a Fan of blaharumph 17 fans permalink
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he probably needs to review any legal re-write and speak about it in a prepared and respectful way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 02/10/2009
- hialoha I'm a Fan of hialoha 17 fans permalink

Yea that's true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 02/10/2009
- hialoha I'm a Fan of hialoha 17 fans permalink

Initially I thought the same thing . TV and the realities of w a r of course basically ended Vi e t N am. There is another side that the media has come to exploit everything so there's probably some respect for the families to consider.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 02/10/2009
- JackND I'm a Fan of JackND 28 fans permalink

Familial consideration was the old way. Just restore it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 02/10/2009
- tsewydoow I'm a Fan of tsewydoow 4 fans permalink

We don't need to exploit these photos for some loony Democrat's political agenda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 02/10/2009
- Eidolas I'm a Fan of Eidolas 5 fans permalink

It's Obama's war now - Let him show the photos if he wants, starting with the 4 soldiers killed in Iraq yesterday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 02/10/2009
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No--this is the Bush/Chene­y/Rumsfeld­/Wolfowitz­/Kristol and the whole neocon gang's war--make no mistake about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 02/10/2009
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What's their political agenda that you can't handle - the truth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 02/10/2009
- tsewydoow I'm a Fan of tsewydoow 4 fans permalink

If the Democrats have as much respect as they claim they have for our servicemen they will not let these fallen heroes be exploited. But we know the Dems do not have any respect for the troops.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 02/10/2009
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 227 fans permalink

He is too busy protecting his own political agenda. Bush didn't want the coffins seen since someone might start counting the number coming home....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 02/10/2009
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No, you should hide them. Right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 02/10/2009
- Dystopic I'm a Fan of Dystopic 20 fans permalink
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they died with honor, and for the country to honor them, it must see them return.

There is no political agenda, except for Bush's to stop the photographs, so he could hide the number of soldiers dying in the middle east for his war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 02/10/2009

that's a convenient dodge....

we ain't perfect here above the 49th parallel but when one our kids comes home in a box the repatrition ceremony in Kandahar (that's in Afganistan) is covered, from a respectful distance by the media...ou­r soldier (or soldiers) come home, land in Trenton to be met by their families, the hearses then travel along a stretch of the Transcanada now dubbed "Highway of Heroes" ....where the general public will stand along the overpasses and show their respect to a Canadian who gave everything for their country.

I don't know what that says except....­I by far perfer how we're treating our fallen and nobody is screaming exploitati­on....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 02/10/2009
- tsewydoow I'm a Fan of tsewydoow 4 fans permalink

Canada has a military? What for? Anyway, you worry aboot Canada and I'll worry about my country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 02/10/2009
- kappa08 I'm a Fan of kappa08 82 fans permalink
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God forbid you enablers of lies view YOUR doing...YO­U know who you are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 02/10/2009
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