Satellites Collide 500 Miles Over Siberia (VIDEO)

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AP, Russia Today   |  MARCIA DUNN   |   February 11, 2009 09:08 PM

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CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — Two big communications satellites collided in the first-ever crash of its kind in orbit, shooting out a pair of massive debris clouds and posing a slight risk to the international space station. NASA said it will take weeks to determine the full magnitude of the crash, which occurred nearly 500 miles over Siberia on Tuesday.

"We knew this was going to happen eventually," said Mark Matney, an orbital debris scientist at Johnson Space Center in Houston.

NASA believes any risk to the space station and its three astronauts is low. It orbits about 270 miles below the collision course. There also should be no danger to the space shuttle set to launch with seven astronauts on Feb. 22, officials said, but that will be re-evaluated in the coming days.

The collision involved an Iridium commercial satellite, which was launched in 1997, and a Russian satellite launched in 1993 and believed to be nonfunctioning. The Russian satellite was out of control, Matney said.

The Iridium craft weighed 1,235 pounds, and the Russian craft nearly a ton.

No one has any idea yet how many pieces were generated or how big they might be.

"Right now, they're definitely counting dozens," Matney said. "I would suspect that they'll be counting hundreds when the counting is done."

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As for pieces the size of micrometers, the count will likely be in the thousands, he added.

This was the first high-speed impact between two intact spacecraft, NASA officials said.

There have been four other cases in which space objects have collided accidentally in orbit, NASA said. But those were considered minor and involved parts of spent rockets or small satellites.

Nicholas Johnson, an orbital debris expert at the Houston space center, said the risk of damage from Tuesday's collision is greater for the Hubble Space Telescope and Earth-observing satellites, which are in higher orbit and nearer the debris field.

At the beginning of this year there were roughly 17,000 pieces of manmade debris orbiting Earth, Johnson said. The items, at least 4 inches in size, are being tracked by the U.S. Space Surveillance Network, which is operated by the military. The network detected the two debris clouds created Tuesday.

Litter in orbit has increased in recent years, in part because of the deliberate breakups of old satellites. It's gotten so bad that orbital debris is now the biggest threat to a space shuttle in flight, surpassing the dangers of liftoff and return to Earth. NASA is in regular touch with the Space Surveillance Network, to keep the space station a safe distance from any encroaching objects, and shuttles, too, when they're flying.

"The collisions are going to be becoming more and more important in the coming decades," Matney said.

Iridium Holdings LLC has a system of 65 active satellites that relay calls from portable phones that are about twice the size of a regular mobile phone. It has more than 300,000 subscribers. The U.S. Department of Defense is one of its largest customers.

The company said the loss of the satellite was causing brief, occasional outages in its service and that it expected to have the problem fixed by Friday.

Iridium also said it expected to replace the lost satellite with one of its eight in-orbit spares within 30 days.

"The Iridium constellation is healthy, and this event is not the result of a failure on the part of Iridium or its technology," the company said in a statement.

Initially launched by Motorola Inc. in the 1990s, Iridium plunged into bankruptcy in 1999. Private investors relaunched service in 2001.

Iridium satellites are unusual because their orbit is so low and they move so fast. Most communications satellites are in much higher orbits and don't move relative to each other, which means collisions are rare.

Iridium Holdings LLC, is owned by New York-based investment firm Greenhill & Co. through a subsidiary, GHL Acquisition Corp., which is listed on the American Stock Exchange. The shares closed Wednesday down 3 cents at $9.28.

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AP science writer Seth Borenstein in Washington and AP technology writer Peter Svensson in New York contributed to this report.

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CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — Two big communications satellites collided in the first-ever crash of its kind in orbit, shooting out a pair of massive debris clouds and posing a slight risk to the inter...
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The only solution to this problem is to get space lawyers involved. I've already wrestled with this question before in song. www.myspace.com/mikeymelandthejds .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 02/12/2009
- Sumocat I'm a Fan of Sumocat 34 fans permalink

I guess this means we have to forgive China for shooting down their old satellite two years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 02/12/2009
- TimDanMick I'm a Fan of TimDanMick 10 fans permalink
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The real concern is not of falling debris but of a chain reaction in earth orbit. Fast moving debris radiates out and hits another satellite which in turn.......
There is so much stuff up there that critical mass has been reached. We might soon have a ring like saturn but no coms satellites.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 02/12/2009

Uh, no.

Risk to satellites in orbit is not like playing a game of Dominoes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 02/12/2009
- me again I'm a Fan of me again 29 fans permalink

Sounds like we need a satellite traffic controller.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 02/12/2009
- hildutus I'm a Fan of hildutus 6 fans permalink

"'We knew this was going to happen eventually,' said Mark Matney, an orbital debris scientist at Johnson Space Center in Houston." And thank goodness it was with a Russian satellite, so he has someone to blame. What's he going to say when eventually two US satellites collide? If they haven't already done so.
Tired of the blaming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 02/12/2009
- Queenhuh I'm a Fan of Queenhuh 15 fans permalink
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Translation; Putin had many more enemies to dispose of. After lasering them from these satelites, he then had the satelites crash to eliminate all evidence, thus also disposing of the astronauts who were not Putin/Russian supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 02/12/2009
- maggiee I'm a Fan of maggiee 29 fans permalink
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Or maybe there is just so much crap in orbit that it's starting to run into each other

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 02/12/2009
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 100 fans permalink
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As more and more junk is put in orbit, this is going to happen more and more often..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 02/12/2009

All the high tech junk that this country uses for self defense is predicated on GPS etc. not to mention the Republican wet dream, since Ronnie Raygun's STI, relies on satellites which can be taken out by launching something as simple as gravel in the same orbit. Not to mention every tool lost, every malfunctioning or dead satellite and the rest of the debre that been orbiting since the 50's is a hazard to the Space Station or anything else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 AM on 02/12/2009
- JimLarkin I'm a Fan of JimLarkin 7 fans permalink
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whats that bright light over the southwestern sky?... gotta be a satellite( its geo-stationary)...its been up there over a week now and i dont see any info on it ANYWHERE....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 AM on 02/12/2009
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 100 fans permalink
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Must be the star, Betelgeuse. It rotates with the earth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 AM on 02/12/2009
- Blueline I'm a Fan of Blueline 3 fans permalink
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You're probably seeing Venus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 02/12/2009

I can't sunbathe naked on my own property due to fear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 AM on 02/12/2009
- cloudmaker I'm a Fan of cloudmaker 67 fans permalink
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Boy does this feel like one of those stories that get soft-pedaled at the
beginning. "No big deal.""No actual danger.""Nothing to worry about."
Then,with each passing day, a new cause for alarm till we're all looking
at the sky waiting for a radioactive chunk of something nightmarish to
crash through our roof. Hope I'm wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 AM on 02/12/2009

I don't think anything of such a small size can survive the heat of re-entry into the atmosphere.But I think you're right about soft-pedaling the story,the risk of harm to manned spaceflight is increasing exponentially with the debris we're(all countries with space programs) leaving behind.Curiously the story blamed the Russian spacecraft because they had no control of a dead satellite, while we had knowledge this event would occur but did nothing to prevent it.Why didn't they give a command to move the satellite?Sounds like they weren't aware of the collision until after the fact.I would say the Iridium corporation was negligent of tracking their own equipment and lost the satellite through gross negligence and is also responsible for endangering future space flights and other satellites.Is there no oversight of private corporations ruining the orbital paths of the world while seeking to make a profit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 AM on 02/12/2009

It's dispicable and so transparent. Just blame the Russians. That vaccine is still working well. They were so big [a ton], abandonned and over their own Siberia [or is it?] we had to crash them but we weigh ONLY 1,235 pounds [0.6175 ton]. Big, bad. clumsy Ruskies!
Humans are messing and polluting everywhere, the biggest thresh/crash makers - Americans. Pick up after yourselves! You endanger my space flight !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 02/12/2009

Don't worry, you are wrong and stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 02/12/2009
- cloudmaker I'm a Fan of cloudmaker 67 fans permalink
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What a peculiar response fromwhateverisclever. Do you always insult
people from stating an opinion? And are you completely unable to
recognize whimsy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 02/13/2009
- MalloMel I'm a Fan of MalloMel 100 fans permalink
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It could possibly happen, but the chances are so remote, that I'd say your being a bit paranoid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 02/12/2009
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I live in Sweden and my damn digital/sat TV is out of order!! How the hell am I going to see Stephen Colbert now???? Hey I just had a thought!! Space trashmen, Obama could use this to create some jobs...........................But of course NASA says it's Russia's fault, so I guess this means the jobs will go to Russia:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 AM on 02/12/2009
- dv416 I'm a Fan of dv416 2 fans permalink
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cell phone relaying, sure.... but what ELSE did the satellites do?

missile defense? UFO tracking?

i mean, come on, its US and russian! conspiracy theorists will love this!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 02/12/2009
- ROBOT8 I'm a Fan of ROBOT8 22 fans permalink

WE MUST BE SPYING ON SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T WANT US TO SEE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 02/12/2009
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 177 fans permalink
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So, who gets the ticket and when does the insurance adjustors get boosted up there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 02/12/2009

I'm not worried. My tin foil hat will protect me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 02/12/2009
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