Plouffe Off-Record Campaign Comments Come Out

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February 13, 2009 10:03 AM

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Speaking at a forum on presidential transitions, Barack Obama's campaign manager David Plouffe said that the Texas primary constituted "the biggest mistake" he made during the campaign, said if John Edwards had finished third in Iowa, Obama would have won New Hampshire, and scoffed at cable news for its knee-jerk coverage of anything "snarky."

These reflections on campaign '08 were not deeply controversial. But Plouffe's appearance was, because it was insisted that the session be off-record for members of the press.

When word came down about these ground rules, protest and histrionics erupted in the halls of the National Press Club, where the event was held. The Club wrote a letter registering strong opposition to Plouffe's decision. And the Washington Post's Dana Milbank donned a sandwich board sign mocking Plouffe, before writing a scathing column about the incident on Friday. On Thursday, the event's sponsor, Georgetown University, said the decision to restrict reporting was Plouffe's alone. But, even it that's true, there was certainly time for advance warning. The contract Plouffe signed assuring the event would be closed-press was dated December 19.

That nuggets of information would make become public anyway seemed inevitable. Milbank handed out pens and pads to non-media attendees, urging them to take notes and report back to him. What he got was mostly political milquetoast but, for those who lived through the past two years, worth a read.

Here is Plouffe on Gov. Sarah Palin: "Vice presidential picks rarely but sometimes make an electoral difference. Our view was it probably wasn't going to matter that much. It's the most over-covered story in politics. This was the one exception to that. It did have an effect."

"She was our best fundraiser and organizer in the fall."

Here is Plouffe on the media: "What we were focused on... was really not what was coming out of the coverage every day, and our candidate was very good about it. ... The McCain campaign was much more focused on putting ads out to dominate cable chatter for a few hours. ... That was never what we thought was important."

"You put out a snarky TV ad or something controversial, that's all NBC, CNN and Fox are talking about, but that's not how you win elections. I think that discipline paid off."

And here is Plouffe on the general election turning point: "Probably the most important 72 hours of the campaign ... were McCain's suspension of his campaign right up through the presidential debate. One was steady, one was not. ... From that point on, people saw McCain as more unsteady and erratic. He was never really able to dig out of that."

All of which is somewhat interesting stuff. But there was one anecdote that Milbank missed that seemed like truly new terrain. (Full disclosure: I was in the room but -- observing the ground-rules -- not taking notes. This comes via a friend who was also in attendance).

Plouffe said that, "If Edwards had come in third in Iowa it would have helped us in New Hampshire. Almost all of his vote in New Hampshire would have gone to us... I remember getting on a plane and someone said, 'Oh, Hillary Clinton came in third in Iowa.' And I said, 'That's not going to help us at all.'"

Following Plouffe's logic, Edwards' voters were more likely to go to Obama once they realized that their candidate was out of the running. Of course, Hillary Clinton's chief spokesman, Howard Wolfson, has basically insisted the exact opposite. He suggested that had Edwards' dropped out of the primary because of his affair, his boss would have won the Iowa Caucus and, likely, the nomination.

Speaking at a forum on presidential transitions, Barack Obama's campaign manager David Plouffe said that the Texas primary constituted "the biggest mistake" he made during the campaign, said if John E...
Speaking at a forum on presidential transitions, Barack Obama's campaign manager David Plouffe said that the Texas primary constituted "the biggest mistake" he made during the campaign, said if John E...
 
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- noneIn2008 I'm a Fan of noneIn2008 27 fans permalink

He has a book to pitch. Thanks for the free PR. Not a bad way to earn millions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 02/14/2009
- judesedit I'm a Fan of judesedit 7 fans permalink

I see nothing of interest in this story. It's way typical campaign rhetoric. Are we supposed to be shocked by what he believed to be factual statements? The Obama campaign was the model for what campaigns should look like. On the other hand....the McCain campaign was everything a campaign should NOT look like. And his VP pick quickly became the brunt of jokes everywhere..even by the men that wanted a piece. It was actually very unfair to her, even if she is ruthless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 02/14/2009
- billbb I'm a Fan of billbb 47 fans permalink

Not exactly front page, earth shattering stuff, but interesting.

The Obama campaign set a model for discipline and steadiness, while all of their opponents went in for the stunting and short term foolishness. In a campaign where their opponents were all over the map, their refusal to take the trash talk line and climb into the mud pit set them apart. And above.

As for Ms. Sarah, she brought me into the Obama campaign, along with tens of thousands of others, who were driven to it by her ignorance and willingness to use lies and hate as a campaign strategy. The fault with her was not that she was small town, it was that she was small-minded. Sadly, this seems to be a perfect reflection of the current Republican base, who mistake obstinacy for resolve, platitudes for wisdom and blind prejudice for ideas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 02/14/2009
- N10 I'm a Fan of N10 permalink

Yes, exactly, billbb. As soon as she stepped onto the national stage, she lied to us about saying "Thanks ... but no thanks" to the Bridge To Nowhere.

Then, when she was exposed as a liar, she kept on lying. In my view, that finished her - and it will finish her again when, and if, she reappears in a few years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 02/14/2009
- MelRoy I'm a Fan of MelRoy 56 fans permalink
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The McCain campaign made a huge mistake by positioning Palin as the ideological champion of the far right. Her record in Alaska was of bipartisanship. They purposely ignored that fact to "secure the base" (the religious right, Confederate flag-waving, low-information - and, unfortunately for the GOP - vastly reduced in number and location, base). They also tried to make her into something she wasn't, and that was a fiscal maverick. She happily went along with earmarks for her state. The campaign got caught red-handed, and Sarah Palin was branded a liar for saying things like, "I said 'no thanks' to the Bridge To Nowhere".

But however the GOP tried to position her, she simply wasn't up to the task. Keeping her away from the press for so long was an omen that she lacked the knowledge and intellectual curiosity to form a view on national and international matters, and they didn't have enough time to stuff her head with facts and figures in advance of what they hoped would be softball interviews. By the time they realized they couldn't just keep sending her to Fox, she hadn't absorbed enough to hold her own. She was like a deer in the headlights during (especially) the Couric interviews. You could tell by her expression she was completely out of her depth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 02/15/2009

Dana, you lost all credibility when you hastily posted that story about then candidate Obama, trying to make our now President Obama seem arrogant, by cutting out the context. So I'm going to go a head & call your attack on Plouffe Grade A+ SPAM!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 02/13/2009

Milbank, Dennis Miller, Al MIcheals. Sorry! you will have to live on the wrong side of history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 02/13/2009
- jtackeff I'm a Fan of jtackeff 2 fans permalink

As an Obama Intern from NH, it would not have mattered. They only reason that Lady won was because a bunch of her girlfriends sent out emails to everybody they knew saying that Obama was pro-life

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 02/13/2009
- Plus15 I'm a Fan of Plus15 6 fans permalink

So the nitwit Dana Milbank creates this fuss around David Plouffe's appearance for Georgetown University and Politico which was held at the National Press Club. He wears a homemade sandwichboard to call attention to himself as a victim denied by the dastardly Obamaite Plouffe from writing about his contracted appearance for the University. Then Milbank writes "Interesting stuff, sure, but nothing newsworthy and nothing out of school. So why did Plouffe have the press removed from the press club?". No Dana you got it wrong, you say "Interesting stuff, sure, but nothing newsworthy and nothing out of school" so the appropriate question at the end is "So why did Milbank make this big brouhaha?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 02/13/2009
- Querent I'm a Fan of Querent 61 fans permalink
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Dana who?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 02/13/2009
- rmwarnick I'm a Fan of rmwarnick 2 fans permalink

What part of Washington PRESS Club did Plouf not get?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 02/13/2009
- theone718 I'm a Fan of theone718 22 fans permalink
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Wolfson is wrong because the voters were polled on who their second choice was. Edwards voters went for Obama b a wide margin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 02/13/2009
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Every Edwards supporter that I knew switched their vote to Obama. Of course that is not proof of who would have been boosted had Edwards come out stronger or weaker. Still, they had a lot of similarities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 02/13/2009
- Querent I'm a Fan of Querent 61 fans permalink
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Same here, and as a one-time Edwards supporter, I knew a lot of them. They all ended by voting for Obama. The one argument Hillary had to appeal to us was that she was going to be meaner to Republicans. Unfortunately, that appears to have been true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 02/13/2009
- JoelNH I'm a Fan of JoelNH 5 fans permalink

Well,as a NH voter who voted for Edwards... if I thought Obama needed my vote to beat Clinton, he had it. He did so well in Iowa and was predicted to win in NH, so I voted for Edwards. I preferred edwards, but I really didn't want Clinton. If Edwards had finished a distant 3rd in Iowa, then I would have voted Obama.

I'm just glad I had an opportunity to vote Obama in the general election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 02/13/2009
- jaielaw I'm a Fan of jaielaw 7 fans permalink

Interesting. Of the Edwards supporters that I know, all of those who supported him because of his health-care plan switched to Clinton. Her plan was more progressive than Obama's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 02/14/2009
- MelRoy I'm a Fan of MelRoy 56 fans permalink
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The thinking probably was, if the Edwards affair had come out, women would have thought back to Bill's affairs and cast sympathy votes for Hillary.

Hillary won New Hampshire for two reasons. One is, of course, she cried. Not to say she did so cynically, but a lot of women wanted to empathize with her but found her too steely; they couldn't relate. When she let her guard down and showed her softer, feminine side, many more women related.

The other is, Iowa proved Hillary wasn't invincible. She became the underdog, and everybody loves an underdog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 02/15/2009
- goodog I'm a Fan of goodog 125 fans permalink
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Wasn't Milbank one of the early adopters, over at the WaPo, of the Bush admin's argument for invading Iraq?

Sorry Ploof. Whether you like it or not, you're no longer a private citizen, after playing such a central role in getting as historical a figure as Obama elected.

You may wish you can fade into the obscure background of the Washington Press Club, but it's not going to happen. You, yourself, are news by virtue of your accomplishment.

Live with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 02/13/2009
- Lee323 I'm a Fan of Lee323 18 fans permalink

Plouffe on Palin: " She was our best fundraiser and organizer in the fall. "

I had to laugh every time I heard the Republicans crowing that Palin was "energizing the base" during the election. While this was no doubt true, the voter segment that she was really, really energizing was the MAJORITY of voters AGAINST the McCain/ Palin ticket.

Thanks, Palin. Keep up the good work for the Democrats!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 02/13/2009
- elcojonu I'm a Fan of elcojonu 28 fans permalink

Sarah in 2012 !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 02/13/2009
- goodog I'm a Fan of goodog 125 fans permalink
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Palin / Wurzelbacher 2012!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 02/13/2009
- Lee323 I'm a Fan of Lee323 18 fans permalink

LOL.

Considering that I've been a registered Republican for 35 years and have never voted for a Democratic ticket for Pres./VP until Obama/ Biden, I would say that I'm in a very good position to back up my assessment of Palin and the GOP in general.

The GOP ticket in '08 was a disgrace: Rattled, addled liars.....both of them. Only a minority of voters in this country want a regressive, divisive, ignorant politician such as Palin.

Dream on.....and do a little objective research for once.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 02/13/2009
- Pharos I'm a Fan of Pharos 9 fans permalink

That's sarcasm or a joke, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 02/13/2009
- goodog I'm a Fan of goodog 125 fans permalink
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Here's the people Palin energized:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 02/13/2009
- rtwyatt6 I'm a Fan of rtwyatt6 37 fans permalink
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Palin was also the reason many of the people that I know, who supported Clinton, ended up supporting Obama. The weekend after she gave her speech, we had about 20 Clinton supporters who came to volunteer for Obama because they were insulted that McCain would think that just because they selected a woman that Clinton supporters would switch to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 02/14/2009
- bobdob I'm a Fan of bobdob 18 fans permalink

Outrage! David Plouffe speaks off the record! Oh, the humanity! How will we ever carry on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 02/13/2009
- rasit I'm a Fan of rasit 10 fans permalink

I was wondering why Dana has been a No Show on Count Down....Now I understand.....Very Unprofessional.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 02/13/2009
- MsMicki I'm a Fan of MsMicki 2 fans permalink

Keith disinvited that jerk before Obama was elected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 02/14/2009

Dana Milbank does not a news journalist make.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 02/13/2009

Agreed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 02/13/2009
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