US Missile Strike Kills 27 In Pakistan

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STEPHEN GRAHAM | February 14, 2009 11:37 PM EST | AP

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Pakistani Imran Zargul, 71, from the tribal region of Bajur wait to get donated food during a distribution at the Jalozai refugee camp near Peshawar, Pakistan, Friday, Feb. 13, 2009. Economic woes complicating Pakistan's struggle against Islamic militants are easing thanks to a tough rescue plan backed by the International Monetary Fund, but the program needs more than a year to succeed, the country's finance chief said Friday. (AP Photo/Emilio Morenatti)

ISLAMABAD — Dozens of followers of Pakistan's top Taliban commander were in a compound targeted by a U.S. missile strike that killed 27 near the Afghan border, intelligence officials said, while insurgents freed a kidnapped Chinese engineer elsewhere in the northwest region.

The missile strike Saturday appeared to be the deadliest yet by the American drone aircraft that prowl the frontier. It defied Pakistani warnings that the tactic is fueling extremism in the nuclear-armed Islamic nation.

The release of the Chinese man held by the Taliban since August was a rare bit of good news in Pakistan following the apparent beheading of a kidnapped Polish engineer and threats to kill an abducted American U.N. official. The exact terms of his Saturday release were not immediately clear, but a Chinese official said he was doing well.

In an unrelated interview, President Asif Ali Zardari said the Taliban had expanded their presence to a "huge amount" of Pakistan and were even eyeing a takeover of the state.

"We're fighting for the survival of Pakistan. We're not fighting for the survival of anybody else," Zardari said, according to a transcript of his remarks that CBS television said it would air Sunday.

Many Pakistanis believe the country is fighting Islamist militants, who have enjoyed state support in the past, only at Washington's behest.

Remotely piloted U.S. aircraft are believed to have launched more than 30 attacks over the past year, and American officials say al-Qaida's leadership and ability to support the insurgency in Afghanistan has been significantly weakened. But Pakistani officials say the vast majority of the victims are civilians.

After Saturday's strike, Taliban fighters surrounded the flattened compound in the village of Shrawangai Nazarkhel and carried away the dead and wounded in several vehicles. The village is in South Waziristan, part of the tribally governed area along the Afghan frontier considered the likely redoubt of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden.

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The victims included about 15 ethnic Uzbek militants and several Afghans, said Pakistani intelligence officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media. The seniority of the militants was unclear.

Two of the officials said dozens of followers of Pakistan's top Taliban leader, Baitullah Mehsud, were staying in the compound when it was hit. There was no indication that Mehsud was present.

Pakistan's former government and the CIA have named Mehsud as the prime suspect behind the December 2007 killing of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto. Pakistani officials accuse him of harboring foreign fighters, including Central Asians linked to al-Qaida, and of training suicide bombers.

The accounts of Saturday's strike could not be verified independently. The tribally governed region is unsafe for reporters. The U.S. Embassy had no comment, while Pakistan's army spokesman was unavailable.

The new U.S. administration has brushed off Pakistani criticism that the missile strikes fuel extremist and anti-American sentiment and undercuts the government's own counterinsurgency strategy.

As overall security has deteriorated in Pakistan, foreigners have become prime targets. In recent months, Chinese, American, Iranian, Afghan and Polish citizens have been victims of abductions and killings.

Chinese engineer Long Xiaowei was kidnapped last August in the Dir region of northwest Pakistan. He was released on Saturday, and by Sunday he was at the Chinese embassy in Islamabad meeting with the ambassador, China's state-run Xinhua news service reported.

Long was in good health, Yao Jing, the deputy head of China's mission told The Associated Press.

He said he did not know if any ransom was paid or exactly how Long's release was secured. Muslim Khan, spokesman for the Pakistani Taliban in the northwest's Swat Valley, also confirmed the engineer's release.

Fears for foreign kidnap victims escalated this month after authorities received a video purportedly showing the beheading of Polish engineer Piotr Stanczak by Pakistani militants. Polish authorities believe the video is authentic.

On Friday, the kidnappers of an American employee of the United Nations threatened to kill him within 72 hours and issued a 20-second video of blindfolded John Solecki saying he was "sick and in trouble."

Gunmen seized Solecki on Feb. 2 in Quetta, a southwestern city near the Afghan border. The kidnappers identified themselves as the previously unknown Baluchistan Liberation United Front, indicating a link to separatists rather than to Islamist militants.

The kidnappers have demanded the release of 141 women allegedly held in Pakistan.

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Associated Press writers Munir Ahmad, Nahal Toosi and Asif Shahzad in Islamabad, Abdul Sattar in Quetta and John Heilprin at the United Nations contributed to this report.

ISLAMABAD — Dozens of followers of Pakistan's top Taliban commander were in a compound targeted by a U.S. missile strike that killed 27 near the Afghan border, intelligence officials said, while...
ISLAMABAD — Dozens of followers of Pakistan's top Taliban commander were in a compound targeted by a U.S. missile strike that killed 27 near the Afghan border, intelligence officials said, while...
 
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- Fein I'm a Fan of Fein 19 fans permalink

Bush's agenda of warcrimes continues uninterrupted. So much for 'change'.

The U.S. military says they've hit 'terrorists' and despite their blatent lies about the Iraq war, no journalists are challenging them - disgusting.

No wonder the Pentagon warmongers are having such a hard time securing involvement from
our allies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 02/14/2009
- BushBites I'm a Fan of BushBites 31 fans permalink

The quote on who was killed was from Pakistani intelligence officials, not the US military.

I'm pretty sure the US military wouldn't talk about it even if they wanted to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 02/14/2009
- victoria38 I'm a Fan of victoria38 13 fans permalink
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Feinstein will...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 02/14/2009
- CAP6 I'm a Fan of CAP6 15 fans permalink

The military does provide press briefings but as you stated will not discuss ongoing operations, tactics, or any details relating to strategy that might compromise the safety of our troops. The US military does not target civilians, the opposition utilizes civilians as shields, thus they are the folks targeting innocents. Sadly, we do have a fight that must be fought, our new president understands that. President Obama is the CIC and our president. He orders the military to respond to threats, he asks for your support.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 02/14/2009
- victoria38 I'm a Fan of victoria38 13 fans permalink
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Talk to Obama. He owns the "illegal" wars now..Maybe they'll make a movie, it's Charlie Obama's War...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 02/14/2009
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Too bad President Emanuel didn't focus on this issue instead of the stimulus.

Wonder why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 02/14/2009
- victoria38 I'm a Fan of victoria38 13 fans permalink
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Fein...ple­ase cite a warcrime of which Bush is guilty...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 02/14/2009
- Brickyard I'm a Fan of Brickyard 2 fans permalink

1.2 million iraq's mur dered ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 02/14/2009
- newdates I'm a Fan of newdates 4 fans permalink

Bush may be wrong on Iraq war. But Bush and Obama are right in rooting out the Terrorists and Taliban.

Get to the root cause and erase them first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 02/14/2009
- raptor I'm a Fan of raptor 7 fans permalink

May?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 02/14/2009
- tfoley I'm a Fan of tfoley 3 fans permalink

If this happened 3 months ago all the posts would be calling Bush a murderer and war criminal yet now under Obama's watch the silence is deafening

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 02/14/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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Actually, it went on for /years/ under Bush before the calls for investigating war crimes were taken seriously by the media or Congress, and even then only to just acknowledge them diffidently. I'd hardly call it silence considering the activity on this thread.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 02/14/2009

it was happening 3 months ago. read the article. and it was reported 3 months ago. however, until a few months ago the bush's policy of avoidance of this porous border, his tip-toeing around pakistan's support and harboring of terrorists (including their coddling of the scientist who sold nuclear weapons technology to iran and north korea and god only knows who else) was not only deafening, but deadly. the obama administration is doing exactly what the president said he would do throughout his campaign: go after al queda and the taleban where they are (in pakistan), not where we'd like them to be (in iraq).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 02/14/2009

The silence is not deafening. The ensorship-kay is illing-kay the otests-pay.

This is outrageous, and President Obama should end both wars in less than six months!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 02/14/2009

"In both Afghanistan and Pakistan there are separate but mutually supported campaigns to destabilize the country organized by al-Qaeda, the Afghan and Pakistani Taliban, and other Central Asian Islamic groups... Now a factory-style conveyor-belt system has emerged. Fervent teenagers are being recruited from the Pakistani madrasas in the Pashtun tribal region along the border with Afghanistan. They are moved from safe house to safe house and receive various forms of training. Bombers, for example, are taught to duck their heads when they pull the switch so their head is blown apart and is unrecognizable. Meanwhile separate teams choose the next targets in Afghanistan"

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/21473

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 02/14/2009
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Liberals choose to believe that this world you speak of does not exist. Therefore, you are an out of control nutjob who plays and preys on fears.

You find this same attitude in parents when the teacher tells them their children are misbehaving, the system gets put on trial.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 02/14/2009

"Liberals choose to believe that this world you speak of does not exist."

Liberals know as much as conservatives about the danger of terrorists.

We choose to make the constitution our priority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 02/14/2009

Bush never will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 02/14/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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This is not new information, ML. Mind telling us why it is relevant?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 02/14/2009

Yes. it is not new, therefore untrue.
A dude from an American village w/o a high school diploma attempts to refute a Pakistani journalist, and an expert on these matters.
Gotta love the Net.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 02/14/2009

June 10, 2008
"You have huge efforts by al-Qaeda to train European Muslims, to train white European converts to Islam. They’ve set up training camps now with language facilities. That means if you’re a German Muslim, you don’t speak Arabic, you don’t speak any of the local languages, and you arrive at one of these camps, you’ll get a German trainer, you’ll get a French trainer, in order to train you how to do—how to build explosives, how to carry out suicide bombings. Now, that means that al-Qaeda has really developed a much greater capacity since 9/11, when a lot of it was destroyed. It has rebuilt itself."
Ahmed Rashid,
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/10/descent_into_chaos_ahmed_rashid_on

And NOW we're taking it down with help of the new Pakistan government. GREAT JOB!
Start your whining engines now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 02/14/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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That interview is several months old, so yes, a lot of us knew all about what Musharraf was doing behind our backs, while we were shoveling money at him and letting him go on book tours around the US. I think it /would/ be great if we showed more support to the legitimate civilian government of Pakistan but wanton, unilateral bombing campaigns will do nothing but undermine support for them, even if we weren't killing innocent civilians in the process -- which we are.

By the way? FINALLY you stumble upon credible web sites and journalistic sources. Good for you! I recommend Democracy Now!'s podcast most highly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 02/14/2009
- victoria38 I'm a Fan of victoria38 13 fans permalink
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Happy Valentines's Day !! Hope the cave chocolates were spared...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 02/14/2009

ya nothing like starting of valentines weekend with some nice warcrimes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 02/14/2009

Hey hey O B A
How many kids did you off today!

Worst. President. Ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 02/14/2009

That's funny when Bush was killing just about everything in sight, you thought he was macho.

Republicans will condemn anything, or be for anything, as long if Rush gives you permission. No spine or opinion defines the Republican grass roots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 02/14/2009

So were you against this kind of thing 4 months ago, or are you a new convert because a dem is doing it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 02/14/2009

just one , but he was a recruit so it's all good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 02/14/2009
- Brickyard I'm a Fan of Brickyard 2 fans permalink

If you want to know the truth about what they are really doing in afghan and pakistan

here it is.......

its a much bigger picture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuS1LReRI-E&feature=related

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 02/14/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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Very interesting. I don't agree with everything Tarpley is saying but he does raise some very important points to think about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 02/14/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 578 fans permalink
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Ditto.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 02/14/2009
- Brickyard I'm a Fan of Brickyard 2 fans permalink

ha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 02/14/2009
- BushBites I'm a Fan of BushBites 31 fans permalink

Webster Tarpley would be more credible if he quit calling Muslims "Moslems."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 02/14/2009
- Brickyard I'm a Fan of Brickyard 2 fans permalink

thats all you learned from that video?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 02/14/2009

It is interesting to count the lies that Tarpley must tell to support his version of events. The first big one is that Bush opposed bombing within Pakistan. As most posters most know, he, in fact, bombed. As for McCain, he did not oppose bombing, he simply said we should not telegraph our intentions. Some time after that I lost count.

Lyndon LaRouche, Tarpley's mentor, deliberately undermines liberal arguments by casting them in the guise of lunatic conspiracy theories. In doing this he attracts a few nuts. It is not clear if Tarpley is in on the scam or just one of the nuts.

I think Brickyard knows what's up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 02/14/2009
- elcojonu I'm a Fan of elcojonu 28 fans permalink

Expanding the war into Pakistan; GREAT, it's just what the Taliban and Al Qaeda wants, spread your enemy thin. They must be celebrating in their caves.
Barack, do us a favor and GET THE HELL OUT of Afghanistan, we can't afford being there in too many ways to mention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 02/14/2009
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This is not the change I voted for. He said transparency and no one gets to read the stimulas bill. He said no lobbiest in his admin and we have lobbiest. He lied two days saying the ceo of a company would hire back people being laid off and the ceo said that wasnt true and there would be more lay off's. No he is killing innocent people with bombs. I made a big MISTAKE. I would start saying Impeach but Biden scares me more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 02/14/2009
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You obviously weren't listening to ALL of the 'change' that Obama campaigned on.

"If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will,"~Barack Obama DNC 2008 Presidential Campaign

Otherwise, you did make some good points.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 02/14/2009

As long as the Taliban keep hiding under the skirts of civilians, innocent people are going to die. They are cowards who know they will loose if they fought man to man. Civilians should kick them out of their village, so they don't become victims of missile strikes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 02/14/2009
- BushBites I'm a Fan of BushBites 31 fans permalink

Ah, we don't even know if any innocent people died.

If I was in a house helping a bunch of guys waging war on the government next door and attempting to violently topple the government under which I'm living, would I be an innocent bystander?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 02/14/2009
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We rode Bush like a 2cent hooker when he did this. More of the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 02/14/2009

How do you know? Where you there to witness it? Was there a reporter on seen to record the event?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 02/14/2009
- raptor I'm a Fan of raptor 7 fans permalink

"Civilians should kick them out of their village, so they don't become victims of missile strikes."
Brave talk. Like the "good" Germans kicked out the Nazis?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 02/14/2009

" If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will." Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 02/14/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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"And the United States, along with a growing coalition of nations, is resolved to take whatever action is necessary to defend ourselves and disarm the Iraqi regime. September the 11th, 2001, the American people saw what terrorists could do by turning four airplanes into weapons. We will not wait to see what terrorists or terrorist states could do with chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear weapons." George Bush, 2/6/2003

Funny how history repeats itself, if we're not careful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 02/14/2009
- victoria38 I'm a Fan of victoria38 13 fans permalink
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Chaos...wh­ere's Michaele?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 02/14/2009

What high value targets existed here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 02/14/2009
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Who were the targets?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 02/14/2009

Great news. Not enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 02/14/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 578 fans permalink
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Waiting for the "final solution" on Islam, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 02/14/2009
- mick7191 I'm a Fan of mick7191 36 fans permalink
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Or the final solution OF Islam, at least their brand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 02/14/2009

Muslims need to come up with their own solutions. In the meantime, we in the U.S. should keep a vigilant eye out for threat of Islamism on our soil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 02/14/2009

Yep, not even close to enough. Unfortunately, Senator Feinstein tipped our hand recently. Sheer genius.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 02/14/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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What, Gaza wasn't enough to satisfy your lust for images of bleeding, amputated women and children? Many of these drone attacks have struck civilian populations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 02/14/2009
- BushBites I'm a Fan of BushBites 31 fans permalink

I hope nobody tells her anything about our intelligence gathering operations.

She's a menace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 02/14/2009
- Nazz I'm a Fan of Nazz 4 fans permalink

Pertinent points:
1) Pakistan is the main culprit in the region ..almost most of the problems in the area are supported by the govt OR the retired members of Pakistan Intelligence agency ..
2) Pressure has to put on the govt to cooperate OR threat of sanctions ..otherwis­e they will not change ..Look at the past history ..Military is the real power & the current PM does not hold sway over the military ..
3) Taliban is supported in Pakistan for everything money, drug sales, weapons & hiding in urban areas ..they get their recruits from the local population & madarassa & smuggle the rest from arab other countries ..
4) Local Afghan citizens are too poor & will do anything to survive ..The so called warlords who run these tribal people are corrupt but they can be bought to turn against the Taliban ..small amount of $ will do the trick but they need to be controlled .. 5) The military need to win the mind/heart of people so some investment in school, water projects etc & agriculture will be greater good ..
5) Taliban need to be controlled at the border &hit hard as they enter Go after their leaders will be the trick as they did in Iraq
6) Pakistan is the key & we need to push that country to stop Taliban/Quida hiding in that country. Without that it will just a matter of time that Afghanistan will be go back Taliban which is a surrogate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 02/14/2009

These strikes accomplish nothing. Once the USA starts killing those with 'terrorist' intent, when does it stop. Each generation breeds more anger at American Imperialism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 02/14/2009
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 578 fans permalink
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The e.vil empire is about to collapse..­. Then hopefully Americans will finally see the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 02/14/2009
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Wait till we annex your country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 02/14/2009

For once Amanda I agree with you. sad as I am to say it. Wonder if the UK is taking in anyone who wants to work and get the h.ell out of the US while the getting's good?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 02/14/2009
- Sensiblebg I'm a Fan of Sensiblebg 31 fans permalink

LOL @ angry canadians talking like theyre going to do ANYTHING to the US.. hahahaha I love jealous foreigners­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 02/14/2009
- victoria38 I'm a Fan of victoria38 13 fans permalink
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K*ll'em all, let Al*ah sort'em out..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 02/14/2009
- Sensiblebg I'm a Fan of Sensiblebg 31 fans permalink

Lets sing together:

"Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Pak-i-stun" hahahah keep it up Mr. Obama.. Im glad I voted for you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 02/14/2009

yes bombing a unstable nation that poses nukes always a great idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 02/14/2009
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