Progressive Hosts Vie For MSNBC's 10PM Slot

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February 17, 2009 11:34 AM

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With MSNBC announcing that it was looking to fill its 10PM time slot with original broadcasting, two prominent self-avowed liberals are positioning themselves for the post.

Cenk Uygur, of the Young Turks Show, and Sam Seder, who headed a popular eponymous show on Air America, aren't taking the traditional route to the recently announced opening. Rather than rise through the cable news structure, they are using new media tools to organize their supporters and put pressure on MSNBC brass. In Uygur's case, the effort is billed as an election-year style campaign (think: Barack Obama meets "30 Rock.")

"We thought that it would be fun to run it like a political campaign and involve the online community as much as possible," said Uygur. "We're gonna use Facebook, bloggers, and friends in the online community ... In the end, there is only one real voter and in this case the voter is [network president] Phil Griffin. In reality, of course, there is a wider constituency there."

To that end, both Uygur and Seder have Facebook groups touting their rightness for the post, with 4,200 and 2,700 members respectively. The signatories are almost all of a progressive tilt. But they also represent the young, wealthy, tech-savvy demographic that leaves networks and advertisers salivating.

Both hosts know that this, in the end, is their trump card: the promise of transferring (and hopefully expanding) their following from radio and YouTube to a cable outlet. Uygur, for example, has roughly 300,000 viewers on a daily basis and recently passed 65 million views on his YouTube channel. Seder, meanwhile, was syndicated in more than 30 markets when he was doing his regular show, including New York City and Los Angeles. And he makes the case that his format would not only build off the audiences generated by current hosts Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow but -- because of its fusing of news and comedy -- serve as a "bridge" to Jon Stewart on Comedy Central.

"From a programmatic standpoint, I think it is obvious that the 10PM slot should hold and build on the audience that Olbermann and Maddow get," said Seder. "And there is some value in attracting the audience that then turns to Jon Stewart, and I think that, as far as a bridge between Maddow and Jon Stewart, I can fill that void."

This may be the case. But MSNBC may also feel compelled to add a non-ideological or even conservative voice to its prime time lineup. Currently, the station re-broadcasts Countdown at 10PM. Officials with the network did not return requests for comment.

But both Uygur and Seder argue that MSNBC has struck on a successful formula and has no reason to deviate from it.

"I was calling it the progressive dream team," said Uygur. "I love the idea of a 'murderer's row' [of progressives]. It would be Keith, Rachel, and then us..."

In the end, while Uygur and Seder want to build off the success of MSNBC's two other progressive voices, neither claims to be an extension of them. Uygur would like to structure his show on the current Young Turks format, which is more free wheeling and unscripted. "It is almost like Morning Joe in format but not in content," as he describes it. Seder, meanwhile, would try to blend serious news with a healthy dose of irreverence. And both, they say, would work to upend the traditional mores that tend to dominate cable news in its current format.

Says Seder: "I think Rachel [Maddow] has done some of this. And on my radio show, I think I was one of the first to give a national platform to people like Markos Moulitsas [founder of Daily Kos]. I look to bloggers not just because they are bloggers but because they do a great job of picking out information and news analysis."

"We are talking about a change of mindset," said Uygur. "We need to start bringing the new media into the old media."

With MSNBC announcing that it was looking to fill its 10PM time slot with original broadcasting, two prominent self-avowed liberals are positioning themselves for the post. Cenk Uygur, of the Young T...
With MSNBC announcing that it was looking to fill its 10PM time slot with original broadcasting, two prominent self-avowed liberals are positioning themselves for the post. Cenk Uygur, of the Young T...
 
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The best show on television is not on television. Cenk Uygur is my favorite political performer, possibly my favorite entertainer ever, period, and his show would be an immense hit. Grab it. His style has immediacy, and the show's success would have immediacy. TYT on MSNBC.

Truth be told: (1) Sam Seder is also terrific, he and Cenk are friendly with each other, and ideally they will BOTH get shows. (2) Seder has long said that you'll know your success by the abundance of COMPETITION... and here you are.

I do like Sam, but Cenk Cenk Cenk, there is no one else like him, no one near as good as him, and MSNBC should snatch him up. (Him and his crew.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 02/22/2009

How about an interactive show, where people can youtube or webcam and can actively participate, i mean of course pick out good people

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 02/21/2009

Hey, how about giving Sam and Cenk each a half-hour show, a la the Daily Show and Colbert? It would appeal to both hosts' audiences and get each some new viewers/listeners. KO and Rachel do overlap a bit, but I don't see this as a problem with Sam and Cenk. And throw Marc Maron in from time to time. Show the depth of our bench.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 02/21/2009
- iknowdou I'm a Fan of iknowdou 3 fans permalink

My 18 year old daughter and all her friends watch TYT every day, while texting back and forth during the show. Who knew that all these kids would watch a news show? Cenk is loved by these kids!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 02/20/2009
- Wazzat I'm a Fan of Wazzat 7 fans permalink

I discoved Cenk about two years ago through a link on the Huffington Post. Huff Post and the Young Turks are what helped be survive the last disastrous years of Bush. I rapidly got completely addicted to both Huff Post and TYT. But Cenk and his team are ready for prime time, and the country needs this voice. Cenk is unfailingly refreshing and entertaining, just because he is smart and good-natured and knowledgeable and is not afraid to say what he thinks. He is one of the few progressives I have seen
who has the courage and wit to completely tear apart the worst of the right, from Palin to Rush to Bachman to Norm Coleman to O'Reilly to Hannity... the American people desperately need to have this unique voice available, along with those of Olberman, Maddow, Stewart and Colbert, to counter the otherwise overwhelming domination of the rightwing twisters of fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 02/19/2009

There can only be one and Cenk is it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 02/19/2009

Cenk Uyger is the man for the job. In fact, I think he's the best out there. A lineup with Olbermann, Maddow, and Uyger... well that's the media equivalency of the Yankees Murderer's Row. Cenk Uyger all the way!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 02/19/2009
- GST I'm a Fan of GST permalink

I never really watched any news shows.

Then I found The Young Turks on Youtube! I love it, Cenk and the TYT team keeps me up to date and does it just the right way!

TYT FOR MSNBC!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 02/18/2009
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I started reading the Young Turk before I listened to him, but I better favor Sam's style.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 02/18/2009
- ChicagoSuz I'm a Fan of ChicagoSuz 16 fans permalink
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I don't know these guys but I would LOVE to see Ron Reagan, Jr. get his own show. He's actually listens to everyone and, when he does respond, he totally nails it! He's smart & has a great sense of humor, as well.

MSNBC... are you listening?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 02/18/2009

The Young Turks turned me on to the Huffington Post. They hook me up to contemporary, up to the minute national and international news. Having a voice on MSNBC with an internet army would launch their network far past any competitors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 02/18/2009

Young Turks would be perfect for MSNBC! I would definitely watch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 02/18/2009

Cenk On The Colbert Report? Let's make it happen:

1. Brand New Cenk On The Colbert Report Facebook Group: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=137320485009

2. Cenk On Colbert Thread At Colbert Nation: http://forum.colbertnation.com/tcr/board/message?board.id=TCR&thread.id=2687&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 02/18/2009

SAM SEDEEERRRRRRR !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 02/18/2009
- bignerd I'm a Fan of bignerd 23 fans permalink
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not heard of either - merge them into one show...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 02/18/2009
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