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First Posted: 02-19-09 02:41 PM   |   Updated: 06-18-09 05:59 PM

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This is the second installment of Dispatches from the Displaced, in which one homeowner shares his or her story of facing foreclosure to represent the over 10,000 houses that are foreclosed each weekday. Read yesterday's story from Connie in Queen's Creek, AZ here.

Have a story on how a home foreclosure has affected you, your family or your friends? Send it to us at submissions+foreclosure@huffingtonpost.com, and sign up here to receive updates on the feature as it progresses.

Today's testimonial comes from a military family. Carol Ann Smith has a son serving in Iraq and a husband who served in Vietnam.

I have a daughter who is mentally ill and my husband and I are raising her two children. The cost of her treatment and the care of the children made it difficult to pay the bills. My husband taught Algebra and Geometry in the public schools and I am a second shift computer operator.

In desperate circumstances we refinanced our home with HSBC at a 12% rate, thinking that we could refinance in a year. Then, my husband had a stroke and had to take early retirement. We quit paying our mortgage and filed bankruptcy.

HSBC has offered an 8% rate, but they added $18,000 to our $180,000 mortgage, raising the loan amount to $208,000. The house would not appraise for more that $180,000.

We received this offer in a letter. The payment is still too high. I have tried to call HSBC and left at least 20 or 30 messages, but they do not return my calls (we have signed a waiver through our attorney allowing direct contact.) If they would work with us on the payment, we would be able to stay in our home. It is just frustrating that they won't return my calls.

No one placed a gun to our head and made us make this terrible loan, but we are willing to pay back every cent if they would only lower the rate to make the payment something we can afford. Otherwise, HSBC will own a home that needs quite a bit of work, in a neighborhood where several homes are already for sale.

My husband is a Vietnam veteran and my son is currently in Iraq. We are good citizens that have faced life changing events. I pray for everyone going through the anxiety and stress of losing a home. Ultimately, we are all in this together.

Today, while Smith stares down foreclosure, over 10,000 people will lose their homes. Today also marks the launch of the Home Defenders campaign run by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. Homeowners in seven cities across the country, including New York and Los Angeles, have banded together to fight foreclosure with acts of civil disobedience. These so-called homesteaders will risk arrest by staying in their homes while banks and law enforcement inevitably attempt to throw them out.

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For testimonials from these homesteaders and others facing foreclosure, take a look at Brave New Foundation's new site, Fighting For Our Homes.

Find out more about Dispatches from the Displaced, HuffPost's Eyes&Ears series of reader-submitted foreclosure stories.
This is the second installment of Dispatches from the Displaced, in which one homeowner shares his or her story of facing foreclosure to represent the over 10,000 houses that are foreclosed each weekd...
This is the second installment of Dispatches from the Displaced, in which one homeowner shares his or her story of facing foreclosure to represent the over 10,000 houses that are foreclosed each weekd...
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huh, this is the same ACORN republicans were talking about back during the presidential election season.

never heard of them before the election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 02/19/2009

What?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 02/19/2009
- 420 I'm a Fan of 420 9 fans permalink
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What gets me mad about this issue. The dad served in VietNam, the son in Iraq, we owe them. They were willing to give their lives for this country. I am a staunch liberal, and my view , anyone willing to serve or die for this country should been taken care till they die. I do not care if they made poor choices. They served and we owe them for life. That is the right way, and if you are christian, it is the christian thing to do. Some of these bloggers who say otherwise need a reality check.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 02/19/2009

I'm right there with you. I find a lot of "ditto heads" never served and never achieved anything yet they are the first to claim that everyone else should pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 02/19/2009

Couldn't agree with you more - I think Commandment (above) is one of those dittoheads.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 02/19/2009

Ditto. -smile-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 02/20/2009
- jamie461 I'm a Fan of jamie461 21 fans permalink

I'm sorry, but we don't owe them to pay for their poor financial decisions. That's insane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 02/19/2009
- Pupster I'm a Fan of Pupster 12 fans permalink

It's fine to feel sympathy, even go so far as to want to help. Feel free to do so personally -- write them a check.

What's not ok is for you to give away the bank's money or the taxpayer's money. These people freely entered into an agreement, with their eyes wide open. The bank reduced their rate from 12% to 8%. That is a huge accomodation; that is a lot of money over a 30 year period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 02/20/2009

This woman is a tax payer, just like the rest of us. Did some of you read the article at all? There were other situations that led up to them making the decision to take a 12% interest rate, and when they lowered the interest rate, it raised the mortgage to where it exceeded the value of the home.

The fact that the husband had a stroke and they are raising two grandchildren, which I am sure that they hadn't planned on, have a lot to do with them getting in over their heads. The lady isn't trying to get out of paying her debt, she's just asking for a lower interest rate which would make it possible for her to make her payments. I don't think that's asking too much.

I'm making my mortgage payments, pay extra on the principle and have never been late with a payment, and it doesn't bother me at all if the government helps people to keep their homes.

Some of you should think - but for the grace of God, there go I.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 02/20/2009

I'm supposed to feel sorry for these folks? They CHOSE to gamble that they'd be able to refinance in a year. That's no different than going to a casino. They CHOSE to not get any sort of long-term or disability insurance. These are choices all families make, one way or the other. But whining for someone to fix it when it doesn't go your way is just LAME.

What they do for a living is irrelevant.

We don't gamble because we can't afford to lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 02/19/2009

That's all you took away from the story? Gambling?

"Blah blah blah CHOSE....b­lahhhhh CHOSE"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 02/19/2009
- geejai54 I'm a Fan of geejai54 6 fans permalink

You some how assume that you are so smart and secure this could never happen to you. These people did not gamble they made a poor decision based on desperate circumstances. Most of use are just a illness or accident away from being out on the street. I received my 401k statement today and I lost $6500 last year. Was that my fault? What if I had been ready to retire or what if I had had my money in more risky investments. We are all being touched one way or another by this crisis and guess what we are our brothers keeper. So what I gleaned form this families story was there but the grace of God Go I.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 02/19/2009
- elz I'm a Fan of elz 2 fans permalink

Good job putting mumWTFever in his/her place. So typical of a large portion of the population with the attitude that as long as they are okay, screw everybody else till it's their turn to take a fall, but then it's okay to throw them a rope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 02/19/2009

Just started selling insurance?

I've worked in investments for years and I know first hand that those people that may need a given product such as disability insurance can't afford it or can't get underwritten for it due to a preexisting condition. How is that their CHOICE? The same goes for life insurance for some people. The same goes for health insurance for some people.

How mumto2bz would conditions beyond a person's control be their CHOICE?

Besides being compassionately challenged you don't seem to know what you are talking about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 02/19/2009
- rinpochet I'm a Fan of rinpochet 40 fans permalink

You are one of those who expect others to do the fighting and dying for you. Cowards.

Being a vet makes a huge difference. If you put your life on the line for your country, housing should always be affordable.

One day you will be in need and because of your behavior, when you ask for help, deservedly you will not be heard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 02/19/2009
- jamie461 I'm a Fan of jamie461 21 fans permalink

No, you are trying to assign guilt to the wrong party. Even military families have to take personal responsibility for their decisions. My father was a vet, and he did not expect ANYONE to pay his way in this world. Nor did he raise me to expect anyone to do so.

These people made HORRIBLE decisions. We are a nation are not responsible for those HORRIBLE decisions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 02/19/2009
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mumto2bz, people like you need to get a clue. There are many reason why people have lost their homes. Being so callous and insensitive must be a hard burden to bear. How do you stand it?

Part 1

I know several peopel who hve lost their homes. All of us know families like this or are families like this.

Father loses job after 17 years at company. Wife dies after a long bout with cancer. Due to job loss and no savings because of high expenses from wife's cancer treatments, family loses home. Daughter drops out of college.

Father able to get short term jobs, but with the last two, both companies eliminated the job at 85 days and 89 days. Why? It is now standard practice to do this to avoid paying benefits.

Father now doing odd jobs becaue THERE ARE NO GOOD PAYING JOBS and there are thousands of people in the area who are unemployed and unable to find jobs. The daughter is now working part-time at a fast-food chain to help the family.

Stop spouting the Reich-wing meme that the people who are losing their homes are irresponsible.

While there are some who bought homes they could not afford the majority of people lost their homes lost them due to many different circumstances.

Only a very clueless, cruel and selfish person would continue to the Reich-wing talking points to justify their self-serving personality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 02/20/2009
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This is the rest of my comments to mumto2bz, who comes across as a very callous person.

Part 2

December, 2007, Monday of the week before Christmas. Wife/mother's boss called all employees into break room to make an announcement that "Friday of that week was their last day because the company was shutting down and jobs were being moved to India.

Husband/father was already working two part-time jobs because his job with a utility company was farmed out to a private company. Couple borrowed money from relatives and friends to try to keep their home (a fixer-upper because they could not afford anything else).

Current state of family: father/mother/two sons/baby born January, 2008, are now sleeping on the floor of different relatives houses. Father has been cutting grass during the summer, shoveling snow, doing odd jobs, what ever he can in a state where the unemployment rate is higher that that stack of $100 dollar bills missing in Iraq.
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Man loses job due to cutbacks; wife has not been able to work for several years because of cancer which is terminal. Cancer treatments are not all covered by insurance so family owes high medical bills. Unable to maintain mortgage payments, family about to lose home.
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Something for you to consider: "What goes around comes around. You too, one day may suffer just as these people have. We cannot control fate". Also, there is no value in being such a clueless, cruel person.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 02/20/2009
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 279 fans permalink
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Many of us Disabled Vietnam Veterans are supporting parents who have lost every thing to these bankers along with our 401k too.

We now pay to feed our family , our mothers (2), and one Father who is 80.
My mother is 80 also and she has a bad memory and can not be left alone. She loves to cook but forget to turn off the stive too often.
Her Father can't stand any cold his bones hurt he says.
Heating oil is $2.86 a gallon and Refinerys are turning away oil shipments to keep fuel oil prices high.
We can last about 8 more months then it is refiance or move out into the street .
We got their credit cards paid off but medical bills, special diets, and sitters eat up all the extra.
When people start leaving their parents in Emergency Rooms you will know we are in trouble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 02/19/2009

I agree, something needs to be done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 02/19/2009

I wish you the best with your circumstances.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 02/19/2009

I have found that a lot of people (especially some on this thread) are somehow very jaded regarding our military and the men and women who have served. There seems to be a throw-away mentality to our servicemen and women. I have not served myself but my siblings have and I brag about them every chance I get. I am a realtor and have a client who is a disabled vet - he has been trying desperately to get a loan to purchase his home - his first one ever and he's excited as all get out. Because he can only afford not more than 40K , a lot of mortgage brokers are telling him (to his face) that they cannot make enough money off of him so they can't help him. It really doesn't matter to me how much money I'm going to make on this man, I cannot wait to get him into his new home. He has served in two wars and all he wants is to have his own place.

Good luck to you and to all our brothers and sisters who have served this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 02/19/2009

Hang in there - the spending bill was passed for people like you - - --

what?

there isn't any money in it for people like this???

Carol Ann - ixney the part about he military service, they think you are a republican. Just call Obama's people and ask them what they can do for you if you promise to vote democrat from now on - - - - everything will be fine...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 02/19/2009

There are tons of advantages to foreclosure. People that can't afford the home or to maintain it get replaced by people that want it and can afford it.

The shock is over quickly and the problem is addressed as opposed to dragging it out little by little. Most of these problems get resolved dozens of times.

Maybe Henrietta can help, Henrietta Homeless is a Real Estate Investor??

http://digg.com/politics/Obama_s_Henrietta_Homeless_Woman_Is_A_Real_Estate_Investor

And Obama gave her a home??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 02/19/2009
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Spampimp

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 02/19/2009

Exactly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 02/19/2009
- HWBII I'm a Fan of HWBII 10 fans permalink
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Obama did not give her a home. A kind person who heard her story gave her the use of a home. How do you sleep at night?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 02/19/2009
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By the way, how do you know that "the shock is over quickly"? Been there, done that? I doubt it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 02/19/2009
- AngieMom57 I'm a Fan of AngieMom57 68 fans permalink
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She was administrator/clerk selling real estate and was laid off!

Look deep enough and the truth will jump out at you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 02/19/2009
- AngieMom57 I'm a Fan of AngieMom57 68 fans permalink
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Sorry, correction she was a clerk for a real estate company, I have not seen or read anything that suggests that she has a license to sell real estate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 02/20/2009

You are one sick human (you are human, right???)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 02/19/2009
- alleycat32 I'm a Fan of alleycat32 2 fans permalink

Oh and by the way. That house we filed bankrupcty on is still on the market. Almost 65,000 less than what we owed on it. Still hasn't sold because it is still overpriced.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 02/19/2009
- alleycat32 I'm a Fan of alleycat32 2 fans permalink

You know I found myself in almost the same predictament as the lady in this story. Two years ago.
Know what I did. I filed bankruptcy and called the bank and told them they can have the damn house with the inflated mortgage and payments.

Did it hurt my credit. Yes. But two years later I have a FICA score of 650. Have I had a problem getting credit. Not in the least.

I now sleep nights and so do my kids. We rent a house at a reasonable cost. I have a few bucks each month for luxuries like taking the kids to the show.

Happier Happier. File bankruptcy and tell the bank to suck a pickle.

Banks are getting all the bailouts. What about middle class america. What would have happen if all those billions were given to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 02/19/2009
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 77 fans permalink
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Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do. Glad your family made it through. I'm trying to help out two of my tenants who lost income, while staying a float myself. It rough.

I'm waiting for the people in power to change the bankruptcy laws once the little folks realize how to utilize the law better than Donald Trump. Hey, it just business- right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 02/19/2009
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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Some states offer a mediation sevice for free. These people can atleast make contact probalby easier than you trying to deal with them directly. I dont know why all local papers are not making information availble to citizens. This outfit claims about a 50% success rate.
MINNESOTA HOME OWNERSHIP CENTER FREE HELP

mediation service to work for you with the banks
kare 11 news
take care of your money

That amounts to 7,364 success stories in 2008,

http://www.kare11.com/money/matters/matters_article.aspx?storyid=539269&catid=329

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 02/19/2009
- jcollell I'm a Fan of jcollell 4 fans permalink

Truly despicable.

http://www.youspar.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 02/19/2009
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 77 fans permalink
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funny. some people who are snarky about bailing out homeowners, are the same people who want credits to buy cars and homes, stimulus checks in the mail, their Farm Bill subsidy, unemployment check, wall street bail out to free up credit, etc..

People here are hatin on the rich, the poor, the newly poor, jobless, homeless, hungry, etc...

Maybe Bush's econnomic mess should just wipe us all out. Let's see who is still passing judgement with their hands out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 02/19/2009

When will HuffPo spotlight my plight?

My husband and I refused to buy an overpriced house with a mortgage we couldn't afford years ago and helplessly watched any hope of buying a home evaporate as house values skyrocketed all around us. Now, for the first time since we married we see a light at the end of the tunnel. We can actually, responsibly afford a real house and not a detached condo segregated to the outer fringes of a distant bedroom community. But all we hear about are these folks. Ones who have/had houses and squandered them.

I don't like the mortgage bail out. I don't like people getting attention for their hard luck stories that they dug for themselves. I don't like any of it. And yet, I understand the need for it in the larger economy and so my husband and I are going to be responsible and get totally shafted once again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 02/19/2009

Maybe when all your neighbors are foreclosed on then you can afford to buy your dream home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 02/19/2009

excellent post - we all feel sorry for the people that are having a hard time, and frankly it is refreshing to hear them admit they blew it -

as far as hearing about people like you instead? The central core to the success of the democratic party and march to power is that YOU ARE A VICTIM - IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT.

That and find the nearest republican to blame fore EVERYTHING.

It is much easier these days to motivate a group to support handouts than it is to tell people you blew it, now it is going to be twice as hard to dig your self out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 02/19/2009

Lies...Rus­h would be proud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 02/19/2009

What plight? If you want a house go buy one now...Your fake story is a pathetic attempt to AstroTurf the new media.

I call paid blogger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 02/19/2009
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 77 fans permalink
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wait, let me get out my violin. Poor you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 02/19/2009

Cry me a river.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 02/19/2009
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Is your area considered Agricultural? Do you have land? There may be a way.

HuffPo, if you can, you have my permission to send this lady my email.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 02/19/2009
- katyann I'm a Fan of katyann 10 fans permalink

Note the straw that broke the veritable camel's back: medical bill disasters! When will legislators connect the dots? Health care insurance premiums and medicines turn average people into paupers.

Yesterday 500 Massachusetts doctors signed a letter pleading that Washington NOT USE the current Massachusetts health care reform. They are recommending instead SINGLE PAYER financing of health care. Carol Ann Smith's descent into medical bill hell would not have happened in any other industrialized country. Even conservative Canadian PM, Steven Harper, gently poked a little gotcha fun when reminding the press that the Canadians' economic problems weren't so dire and their stimulus package without health care initiatives because...­they have universal single payer health care. Imagine.

Ms. Smith is part of the huge number of people whose finances tank trying to pay for health care. I'd wager her insurance premiums far surpassed a Frenchman's health care tax portion, and what does she have to show for it? Bankruptcy and homelessness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 02/19/2009

just wait until you see what happens to all the people barely holding on when their taxes double to pay for all the new spending -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 02/19/2009

The ultra wealthy are barely holding on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 02/19/2009

Yeah, I have to say the comparison from yesterday's story is chalk and cheese.
I feel genuinely sorry for this poor woman.

The sooner sanity comes to the crazy healthcare system in this country, the better.

No one should go bankrupt paying for healthcare - which in almost every other developed nation would be free or subsidized.

Good luck, and I hope someone from HSBC is listening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 02/19/2009

the ridiculousness of whoever owns the mortgages, is that the homeowner gets evicted, the house sits empty, maybe get vandalized, creating MORE expense to the mortgage holder.... making the value of the house LESS. How stupid is that? It's much better long term to do something to help these people stay in their homes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 02/19/2009
- BartLA I'm a Fan of BartLA 19 fans permalink
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so agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 02/19/2009
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Of course it is better to keep homeowners in their homes! For everyone! But the impulse of the banks and most Republicans is to punish, punish, punish, except for the bankers...­. they must be bailed out! No moral hazard there... the rich must continue the rush to get richer, while the less rich must be punished for their audacity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 02/19/2009
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