Obama Returns Churchill Bust To England: British Press Sees Snub

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Newsweek   |   02/22/09

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Has America's even- tempered new president already ruffled feathers in the land that spawned Borat and Benny Hill? That's certainly how the spiky British press responded after the White House sent back to the British Embassy a bust of Sir Winston Churchill that had occupied a cherished spot in President Bush's Oval Office. Intended as a symbol of transatlantic solidarity, the bust was a loaner from former British prime minister Tony Blair following the September 11 attacks. A bust of Abraham Lincoln--Obama's historical hero--now sits in its place. A White House spokesperson says the Churchill bust was removed before Obama's inauguration as part of the usual changeover operations, adding that every president puts his own stamp on the Oval Office.

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Has America's even- tempered new president already ruffled feathers in the land that spawned Borat and Benny Hill? That's certainly how the spiky British press responded after the White House sent bac...
Has America's even- tempered new president already ruffled feathers in the land that spawned Borat and Benny Hill? That's certainly how the spiky British press responded after the White House sent bac...
 
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- URDRWHO I'm a Fan of URDRWHO 2 fans permalink

Hm? Somehow I think the HuffPo would have been very busy slamming the President, if Bush had done this.

The world is starting to loose its enamored state for Obama. He snubs an ally but is willing to talk with the moderate Taliban.

"KABUL, March 9 (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama's proposal to reach out to moderate Taliban will fail to end the Afghan insurgency as it is inflexible Taliban leaders who are orchestrating the war, not moderates, analysts said."

The "we won" the school yard mantra of some people will work until.....­......unti­l Obama need to call on old internation friends and allies. That is when the arrogance of "we won" will fall on deaf ears.

Have fun with the "we won" but History always replays itself and the fun will end.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 03/09/2009

However trivial you might think his gesture of returning the bust of Churchill, who was a great leader, and more importantly a very important ally to the US, we are not talking about two neighbors in suburbia who are having a squabble. He has been elected into a position where he should know better than to start things off on the wrong foot by sending a message to the Brits who we have so tirelessly have maintained good relations. It's apparent that Obama is not going to get any awards for Foreign Policy/Relations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 03/05/2009

It was apparent before this arrogant boob was elected that he knew nothing about Foreign Policy/Relations. The Obamas hate this country and by extension, the entire free world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 03/05/2009
- TheBaffler I'm a Fan of TheBaffler 42 fans permalink
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Screw the quasi-fascist Churchill, adopted patron saint of American wingnuts. Lincoln was a far greater man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 02/23/2009
- URDRWHO I'm a Fan of URDRWHO 2 fans permalink

Pardon me?

Perhaps in the next world war you will be willing to guide people through the night? Although I think, probably not. Most people on HuffPo have the resolve of a....????? I don't even have an adjective that can be used in a public forum.

Since you called Churchill a quasi-fascist, I guess you have a better admiration of our current march to Socialism?

Since fascism doesn't have one defined form or definition, it is interesting that you can come up with quasi-fascism. It would be interesting to see what you define as quasi?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 03/09/2009
- Daniboy I'm a Fan of Daniboy 19 fans permalink

Churchill saved England's butt-but he's no Obama. Barack is already greater than Winston. Could we get a bust of Barack in there!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 02/23/2009

Are you kidding me? What has Obama done other than win?

He has done nothing to deserve being called a "great man". Sorry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 03/10/2009
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Obama has done absolutely nothing so far. You'll see in the future exactly how "good" his economic policy is. Bush on steroids...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 03/11/2009
- Daniboy I'm a Fan of Daniboy 19 fans permalink

Looks like a snub to me too-there has to be plenty of places to keep it in the White House. Wonder if a bust of Lenin would look good in the Oval Office-socialism is in now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 02/23/2009
- Subterfuge I'm a Fan of Subterfuge 19 fans permalink

Is anyone else yawning?

Dough, meet cookie cutter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 02/23/2009

That's what I would have done. Park it in a closet. More bad press he doesn't need. This was 100% avoidable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 02/23/2009
- Daniboy I'm a Fan of Daniboy 19 fans permalink

Obama bringing the world together-oops! Still hoprful that Iran and North Korea will surrender to Barack next week.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 02/23/2009
- LaMees I'm a Fan of LaMees 2 fans permalink

Yawn.....and the problem is?...........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 02/23/2009
- shel3364 I'm a Fan of shel3364 32 fans permalink

Where's the snub??

" White House spokesperson says the Churchill bust was removed before Obama's inauguration as part of the usual changeover operations, adding that every president puts his own stamp on the Oval Office."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 02/23/2009
- CaptD I'm a Fan of CaptD 19 fans permalink
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"A White House spokesperson says the Churchill bust was removed before Obama's inauguration as part of the usual changeover operations" .

So did Obama send it back (returned it to it's owner, Tony Blair) or did the Staff do it?

Your story is misleading...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 02/23/2009
- Graywolf48 I'm a Fan of Graywolf48 77 fans permalink
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If I read the article correctly, the bust was loaned to Bush by Tony Blair. It was not a gift to President Bush or to the American people. It was loaned to Bush and it was Bush's responsibility to return it when he left office. Which I think is the way it actually happened. The Brits can so easily take offense at the slightest breach of protocol. This does not mean Obama doesn't respect or even admire Churchill. For one thing, both men are (well in Winston's case was) great public speakers. Churchill had a great command of the language, knew well how to use it and could certainly turn a phrase. Although wrong about much (Gandhi, India, colonialism, just to name a few of his shortcomings) he was also quite right about one of the most serious crises of the twentieth century, Hitler and Nazism. I greatly admire Churchill and often listen to and read his speeches. I think he was indeed the right man, in the right job at the right time. The world can be thankful for that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 02/23/2009
- VoodooDoll I'm a Fan of VoodooDoll 15 fans permalink
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My husband is British.He says Churchill was the right person for W.W.II,nothing more.That Churchill was horrible when it came to everything else in England.And-- he was not a very nice person.Big shock,an extreme right wing politician not being nice----

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 02/23/2009
- arvay I'm a Fan of arvay 140 fans permalink
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Winston Churchill was a firm believer in colonialism and said he did not intend to preside over the end of the British Empire, which ended, thankfully, after his fall from power. He was soundly rejected by the british people after WWII.

It's certainly understandable why and American president whose father was Kenyan would not want Churchill's bust in his office, which Blair offered as a symbol of his poodlehood and neo-colonial outlook. Any more than he'd want a bust of Cecil Rhodes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 02/23/2009

Not soundly rejected, for a few years later the electorate reinstated the Conservatives and Churchill. There's a lesson there for the current Democratic administration and congress. Once in power It's wise not to become too comfortable. Time and unforseen events have a habit of upsetting the appel cart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 02/23/2009
- FrTown I'm a Fan of FrTown 14 fans permalink
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If the term "poodlehood" does not exist in the dictionary, it should be added this year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 02/23/2009
- Emerald1943 I'm a Fan of Emerald1943 285 fans permalink
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OMG!!! WHO CARES?? C'mon, Huffpost! Must be a slow news day!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 02/23/2009
- wadda I'm a Fan of wadda 4 fans permalink

Not slow at all; look at all the coverage of the Oscars!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 02/23/2009
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no kidding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 02/23/2009

I don't undertstand the big deal. It's a bust and Obama can have any bust or picture in his office that he likes. He's not changing the Queens bedroom to the girl from around the way bedroom. Who cares? By the way I was reading somewhere that Obama is distantly related to Churchill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 02/23/2009
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Glad to see that symbol of intolerance and Colonialist Right Wing Hawk out of the Oval Office.

Churchill told his Cabinet: "Gandhi should not be released (from prison) on the account of a mere threat of fasting. We should be rid of a bad man and an enemy of the Empire if he died."

Churchill was Prime Minister when Kenya was trying to win their Independence, like India was.

I recently lived in Kenya for 2 years making a Travel-Log for Kodak, as a white person I had access to the exclusive British Country Clubs, and I can tell you that the British have a resentful low regard toward the Kenyans, they were right to win their Independence from the British, just as we Americans did, the Brits had a typical condescending colonialist attitude, while the Kenyans were the most friendly people I ever met, they now live side by side in harmony with their former Colonial rulers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 02/23/2009
- dontpanic1 I'm a Fan of dontpanic1 7 fans permalink
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Thank you for this post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 02/23/2009
- FrTown I'm a Fan of FrTown 14 fans permalink
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I too lived across the mid3ast and I too, as white American, had access to "private" British clubs. They carry the same disdain for the locals you can't believe, despite the fact that they are employed there. Sort of biting the hand that feeds them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 02/23/2009
- OverIt I'm a Fan of OverIt 73 fans permalink


The following paragraph is from the full article:

"Maybe it's no surprise that Obama wouldn't want Churchill watching over his shoulder. After all, it was Churchill who, in 1952, ordered a crackdown on the Mau Mau rebellion against British colonial rule in Kenya, Obama's ancestral homeland. Obama's grandfather, Hussein Onyango Obama, was labeled a subversive during the uprising and spent months in detention."

After reading that and accounts from Obama's step-grandmother about the torture her husband endured under Churchill, there should be ZERO question about why Obama would say "Thanks, but no thanks" to a bust of Churchill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 02/23/2009

And it was just a loan from Blair, according to the article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 02/23/2009
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