Baucus: Health Care Reform Should Get 70 Votes

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03/26/09 05:12 AM

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Senator Max Baucus, who chairs the Senate Finance Committee and is poised to play a leading role on health care reform, says that he wants any bill to overhaul the health care system to receive 70 votes in the Senate.

Speaking at the White House fiscal responsibility summit on Monday, the Montana Democrat told his fellow members of Congress during a break-out session that he was "very excited" about the prospects of health care reform.

"It has to bicameral and bipartisan," he added. "My first preference is 60, maybe 70 votes, when it is all said and done."

While Baucus stressed the vote count, other Senators were focused on the timeline. According to the pool report of the meeting, Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT), who chairs the Senate Banking Committee, said that he wanted a bill to be passed through the Senate by Memorial Day. Tennessee Republican Sen. Lamar Alexander agreed that health care needed to be tackled in the near-term.

Should the Senate be able to pull off that feat -- a health care overhaul with bipartisan support by late May -- it would constitute a major legislative victory for both Democrats in Congress and the administration, which is heavily invested in health care reform.

The task, of course, won't be easy. While there may be an agreed-upon imperative for action, the areas of focus aren't so synchronized and the suggested solutions are of some dispute. Both Alexander and Rep. Mike Castle (R-DE) offered support for the Wyden-Bennett health care bill, which would require the majority of citizens to enroll in a private insurance plan made available through newly created state pools. Employer-based covered would be reduced over time as the country approached near-universal coverage.

Rep. George Miller (D-CA), meanwhile, said he favored a single-payer system and urged his colleagues to focus on preventative measures. He was joined on this topic by fellow Californian Rep. Barbara Lee. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure," said the Democrat. "If the focus is on prevention and public health, we will save."

Sen. Mike Enzi (R-WY) warned about too dramatic an overhaul. "We have to keep in mind that 70 percent of people have health insurance and they like what they got and will be upset if we change what they are doing," he said.

Sen. Arlen Specter said that some attention should be placed on eliminating fraud, which could save costs. The Pennsylvania Republican then offered the lightest moment of an otherwise wonky discussion. Speaking about the power of lifestyle changes to affect health, he said he once contemplated giving up martinis. "I was elated," he added, "when I found it didn't make any difference."

Senator Max Baucus, who chairs the Senate Finance Committee and is poised to play a leading role on health care reform, says that he wants any bill to overhaul the health care system to receive 70 vot...
Senator Max Baucus, who chairs the Senate Finance Committee and is poised to play a leading role on health care reform, says that he wants any bill to overhaul the health care system to receive 70 vot...
 
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Healthcare reform? Connect with the corrupt "FINANCIAL SYSTEM" with the CORRUPT Healthcare Finance Fraud. Before ENRON, Mortgage Fraud, Bernie Madoff: (NCFE), the “LARGEST ‘PRIVATE’ FINANACIAL FRAUD CASE “…
“This case is one of the largest corporate fraud investigations involving a privately held company headquartered in small town America,” said ...of the FBI Criminal Investigative Division.

JPMORGAN CHASE and CITI PAID GOVERNMENT SETTLED AGREEMENTS FOR FRAUD in National Century Financial Enterprises, Inc.

JULY 10, 2007 - SUPERSEDING INDICTMENT CHARGES EIGHT FORMER EXECUTIVES OF HEALTH CARE FINANCING COMPANY WITH CONSPIRACY, FRAUD, MONEY LAUNDERING

At trial, the government presented evidence that the defendants engaged in a scheme to deceive investors and rating agencies ...between May 1998 and May 2001.

SEC: May 1998 James K Happ was the chief financial officer of the Dallas-based Columbia Homecare Group, Inc. (Richard Rainwater’s). In '98 & '99 NCFE financed this divestiture to Medshares, Inc. in Memphis, TN.

July 1999, Medshares, Inc. filed the LARGEST Bankruptcy case in the history of Western TN's bankruptcy court which held ALL of the NCFE financed Columbia Homecare Group, Inc.’s divestiture months earlier. Lawyers cried fraud in the BANKRUPTCY COURT but the JUDGE forbade the ‘F’ word in her court.

February 21, 2008 - COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - A guilty executive told jurors she told investors "absolutely nothing" about National Century's practices of advancing cash to Memphis, Tenn.-based Medshares, a home-health care provider.

DECEMBER 2008- LAST TRIAL AFTER 6years: National Century fraud case produces 1st acquittal
Guess who? James K Happ

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 02/25/2009
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I say the House of Represetatives should pass HR676 single-payer Universal Health Care and send it to the Senate for "OPEN" debate instead of closed door behind the scene discussions which serve to protect the interest of the for-profit insurance and drug companies. This will lite the fire and provide open public access and essential Media coverage to the issue. Quit looking for Special Interest bipartizan compromise it doesn't exist. Only when "We the People" control our destiny will we truly have a Government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" ever heard that one before. Let em Fillibuster. Know ye the Truth and the Truth shall set you FREE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 02/25/2009
- jadeba I'm a Fan of jadeba 9 fans permalink

R's will not support any legislation that does not favor insurance companies. I have insurance and am not happy with it, nor do I believe I will be covered should I suffer from a catastrophic illness. The deck is stacked against us - we could be denied for something as insignificant as a yeast infection! Gimme a break, please. Am seriously thinking of becoming uninsured. Health care for profit is the biggest conflict of interest there is. 70% happy with their insurance? I seriously doubt it. But, the r's aren't known for telling the truth.

It's time for nationalization of health care. It's also time to stop lying about how much people don't like it - that's bs. And Arlen, yes, it's time to stop fraud, the fraud perpetrated on we who operate in good faith, pay our premiums to insurance companies who do not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 02/24/2009
- BUTCHER111 I'm a Fan of BUTCHER111 7 fans permalink

70 votes? Not going to happen. The GOP is against health care for all and they’d never hand Obama and the Dems a major political victory like that. Get it done without the GOP and make them truly filibuster it instead of just backing down when they threaten to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 02/24/2009

Health care reform must be this countries #1 priority. Our economy will not get better until the health care industry gets reined in just like President Obama is attempting to do with the banks. For profit insurers, hospitals and drug companies must be held accountable for their gouging of the public.

For too long these people have financed the opposition while gouging us just as surely as the Wall Street Bankers did. 60 votes is fine with me if Health Care in this country becomes a right and not a privilege.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 02/24/2009

What Obama and the Democrats do not seem to realize is that they were not elected to be bipartisan, they were elected to get done what they campaigned on. I am so sick of hearing the whining about how no Republicans voted for the stimulus bill. To hell with the GOP. The bill passed and that's all that mattered. If the GOP wants to be irrelevent, then SO BE IT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 02/24/2009
- theone718 I'm a Fan of theone718 23 fans permalink
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What a dunderheaded statement Senator. Now you have set the bar to high PLUS we all know Repubs will obstruct, it would be th end of their party if this bill passed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 02/24/2009

The so-called representatives that we have in Congress are being lobbied with much to much $$money$$ from the healthcare­-wealthcar­e companies. It is all about the $$$$$ folks.

We The People need to demand that any Congressperson who is involved in healthcare legislation *return all campaign donations* that were made by any company that is healthcare affiliated--. Have they ever heard of conflict of interest?

How else can we get fair legislation? It is alllll about the $$money$$$...

Call your Senate & House Reps and tell them! Start a petition. Do something. Get active. Now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 02/24/2009

You are right - WE CANNOT LET THEM FRAME THE DEBATE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 02/24/2009
- fdavidm I'm a Fan of fdavidm 3 fans permalink
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Get over it: the GOP is going to act in lock-step to oppose any initiative the Obama Administration pushes forward. Stop wasting time looking for bipartisanship when NONE exists in Washington.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 02/24/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 69 fans permalink

laughing.......none exists in the country........we are a polarized country right now

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 02/24/2009
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 229 fans permalink
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But he didn't mention that Jesus said you trat me as you traet the least of you.

70 votes or not

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 02/24/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 69 fans permalink

good god man........spell much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 02/24/2009
- Islandtime I'm a Fan of Islandtime 14 fans permalink
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After that comment, I'm trat'n myself to a dT. cOke

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 02/24/2009
- grf67 I'm a Fan of grf67 35 fans permalink

Is he mad? Change the rules so that 57 votes are enough. The obstructionist republicans would vote against health care for their parents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 AM on 02/24/2009
- ThomH I'm a Fan of ThomH 21 fans permalink

70 votes?

For a plan that entails new mandates, taxpayer-paid subsidies, more government intrusion, higher taxes, and a higher total national healthcare bill? A plan that leaves millions uncovered and many exposed to medical bankruptcy? And leaves armies of healthco denial clerks deciding what treatments to allow, while preserving the 50% markup on actual medical treatments imposed by the healthcos?

Hey, piece of cake, since the healthcos just love the way it increases their total take, now at $3 billion per day. It takes only a small fraction of that diverted to Congress to buy the votes they need to pass what they want, so their plan is what we will get.

In a true democracy, politicians would vote the interests of their constituents, not their "campaign contributors". But not in the good ol' U.S. of A.

Unless we all get together, and shout out loud for Medicare for All, HR 676. The $1 billion per day of costs now imposed by the healthcos would be eliminated, allowing everyone to be covered.


































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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 AM on 02/24/2009
- funnyguy I'm a Fan of funnyguy 4 fans permalink

TRANSLATION: To get 70 votes, we need to water it down and protect the private insurance industry and Big Pharma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 02/24/2009

yea right who is he kidden the old white red faced party will not vote for any bill that the dems want we would be lucky to get 64 votes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 02/24/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 69 fans permalink

produce a good bill.......then maybe

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 02/24/2009

Dream on. You'll squeak it through with 60, just like every major legislative initiative until congress convenes in 2011.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 02/24/2009
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