Energy Talk In The State Of The Union And The Rebuttal

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Huffington Post   |   03/28/09 05:12 AM

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State Of The Union

Last night's State of the Union speech held no real surprises for environmentally-minded watchers. The president sounds like he's ready for, well, change -- and a cap-and-trade bill.

Joe Romm recapped the energy-related portions of the speech at ClimateProgress:

Yet he made clear that even in these darkest of times -- indeed, especially in these darkest of times -- we must make clean energy a top priority, we must address our dependence on oil, and we must "save our planet from the ravages of climate change" if we are to remain a great nation....


"But to truly transform our economy, protect our security, and save our planet from the ravages of climate change, we need to ultimately make clean, renewable energy the profitable kind of energy. So I ask this Congress to send me legislation that places a market-based cap on carbon pollution and drives the production of more renewable energy in America. And to support that innovation, we will invest fifteen billion dollars a year to develop technologies like wind power and solar power; advanced biofuels, clean coal, and more fuel-efficient cars and trucks built right here in America....

"I think about Greensburg, Kansas, a town that was completely destroyed by a tornado, but is being rebuilt by its residents as a global example of how clean energy can power an entire community -- how it can bring jobs and businesses to a place where piles of bricks and rubble once lay. "The tragedy was terrible," said one of the men who helped them rebuild. "But the folks here know that it also provided an incredible opportunity."


THE REPUBLICAN REBUTTAL

Grist's Kate Sheppard wrote up the energy-related highlights of the Republican response by Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal:

The GOP solution Jindal offered sounded something like the Obama proposed just before, but included nuclear power and increased oil and gas drilling.


"To stop that from happening, we need to increase conservation, increase energy efficiency, increase the use of alternative and renewable fuels, increase our use of nuclear power, and increase drilling for oil and gas here at home," he said. "We believe that Americans can do anything and if we unleash the innovative spirit of our citizens, we can achieve energy independence."

Jindal criticized the newly enacted stimulus package for including funds to purchase more efficient vehicles for the federal government and for high-speed rail. "It includes $300 million to buy new cars for the government, $8 billion for high-speed rail projects, such as a 'magnetic levitation' line from Las Vegas to Disneyland, and $140 million for something called 'volcano monitoring,'" he said. "Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C."

Jindal also spoke at length about government failures during Hurricane Katrina, and Grist notes that the governor didn't mention which party was in power at the time.

One more detail Jindal doesn't mention is that the mag-lev train from Las Vegas to Disneyland is actually part of a transportation bill signed by the previous president.

And Matthew Yglesias reported that there was no special plan for a Las Vegas train, finding instead a map of possible rail routes that included a great deal of rail in the midwest, in the rust belt and three routes out of Jindal's own Louisiana.

Last night's State of the Union speech held no real surprises for environmentally-minded watchers. The president sounds like he's ready for, well, change -- and a cap-and-trade bill. Joe Romm recappe...
Last night's State of the Union speech held no real surprises for environmentally-minded watchers. The president sounds like he's ready for, well, change -- and a cap-and-trade bill. Joe Romm recappe...
 
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- econ1 I'm a Fan of econ1 8 fans permalink

I continue to wish that the stimulus bill was broken up into smaller parts which could be voted on individually. Of course Congress doesn't want to do that because they can't trade their vote for someone else's pet project for a vote for their own.

We have finite resources which we can spend on certain train lines, re-newable energy, healthcare, un-employment compensation.....whatever...and having the alternatives spelled out would allow people to feel their money was being well deployed.

At the moment a lot of funding will be wasted...we just aren't sure how much and where.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 02/25/2009
- DMEEPhD I'm a Fan of DMEEPhD 4 fans permalink

As usual, the GOP pulls this stuff right out of their nether regions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 02/25/2009
- GhostNyc I'm a Fan of GhostNyc 24 fans permalink

Jindals response to the congressional address seems completely factless and border lines on the ridiculous. Before last night Jindal seemed to be a very intelligent politician.

Citing Volcano monitoring , the old addage an "ounce of prevation, pound of cure" comes into play. Tsunami Warning system sounds just as frivilous until you recall how many hundtreds of thousands were killed in the last tsunami south pacific and millions affected or the mulitiple millions of dollars sent in recovery aid.

Regarding the hi speed trains- If mass transportation became cleaner, faster, cheaper then people wouldnt drive as much and by association not use as much gasoline. Part of what we need to do as a country is innovate new systems, new technologies. The GOP does not endorse change on any level- hence their attachment to failed tax policy and political systems that maintain a dangerous status quo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 02/25/2009
- dutt I'm a Fan of dutt 10 fans permalink

Many of the problems we face today need to be tackled as a society. Listening to Obama speak, I feel encouraged. I feel I am part of a larger community and believe that together we can tackle the very daunting problems with our economy and environment. I understand that there will be sacrifices but that if we courageously confront the challenges together we will accomplish great things.

Jindal and the Republican's vision creates loneliness and despair. The idea that our problems will somehow just sort themselves out if government just steps out of the way just doesn't make sense. If they want to bemoan a loss of values in our society they need look no further than their ideology of every man for himself , an ideology that destroys a sense of community.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 02/25/2009
- Sumocat I'm a Fan of Sumocat 34 fans permalink

Yeah, just say no to "volcano monitoring." Not counting Hawaii, Washington, Alaska, Wyoming, and California, there are no active volcanoes in the U.S.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 02/25/2009

But the ones there are are threatening millions of people (and in case of Yellowstone they are threatening the whole world). You could essentially make the same argument about levies. Why do we need to spend money on them? They are nothing but piles of dirt. Yet, once that pile of dirt seizes to do what it is supposed to, you are in a world of hurt. Some things are worth watching, even though it seems futile in the short run.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 02/25/2009
- Sumocat I'm a Fan of Sumocat 34 fans permalink

Dude, seriously, *you* don't get that I'm being ironic? I'm almost hurt by that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 02/26/2009

You're basically saying just say no to the USGS. Hey I have an Idea let's be like George Bush and just say no to science. That sets a wonderful example now doesn't it?

You've got to be kidding me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 02/25/2009
- Sumocat I'm a Fan of Sumocat 34 fans permalink

Um, yeah, I am kidding. You don't see the irony in rattling off all the states with active volcanoes, then stating there are no active volcanoes in the U.S.? I am pleased to see you recognize the Bushian element though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 02/26/2009
- ginxy I'm a Fan of ginxy 7 fans permalink
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Yeah, let's just get rid of natural disaster monitoring all together.

I mean who needs to know about things like volcanoes and earthquakes and hurricanes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 02/25/2009
- Sumocat I'm a Fan of Sumocat 34 fans permalink

Especially hurricanes. How many states are really threatened by hurricanes? Surely Bobby Jindal can agree we can't waste money monitoring them.

(BTW, thanks for getting it.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 02/26/2009
- TJCole I'm a Fan of TJCole 185 fans permalink
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If we are serious about creating a Green economy and Green Jobs then besides Wind, Solar, Natural Gas and Hydrogen we should lift the draconian ridiculous ban on growing Industrial Hemp which does not get you high and would give us cellulose ethanol and bio diesel from it seeds and also charcoal that could replace the use of dirty Coal the President is so fond of...!

Read this...Why Hemp..?

http://hemp4fuel.com/page.php?2

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 02/25/2009
- dapperd72 I'm a Fan of dapperd72 9 fans permalink
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TJCole is absolutely right that hemp should be legalized, as it was during WWII in the "Hemp for Victory" campaign. The insane "war on drugs" is the ultimate reason why hemp remains illegal to grow in the U.S. while it's perfectly legal to sell *sterile* hemp seeds and all other hemp products, so long as you don't dare to grow them here. Woody Harrelson was arrested in a deliberate civil disobedience action several years ago by planting hemp seeds in Kentucky. He remains at the forefront in educating the public on the benefits of industrial hemp, while it also has far more Omega fatty acids than fish with none of the toxic risks or ethical problems of killing fish. Hemp and marijuana are botanical polar opposites, though the US Office of Drug Control Policy and disingenuous self-described "drug experts" such as Barry McCaffrey refuse to acknowlege this. Hemp has none of the psychoactive problems of marijuana and has a far lower carbon footprint than most other crops grown for food, clothing and other common purposes whose industries' profit margins are threatened by its legalization. Henry Ford built his first car with hemp fiber instead of metal and it ran on hemp fuel. Obama must grab the hemp ball and run with it to a touchdown and leave status-quo defenders of the racist drug war in the dust.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 02/25/2009
- Greenguy25 I'm a Fan of Greenguy25 2 fans permalink

The time has come for a serious commitment to a renewable energy future, so how does any amount of spending in this area generate negative commentary? I don't understand how the big energy companies in this country can already be preparing for the new energy age, but the GOP, who are the self proclaimed protectors of these same companies, can be arguing investment in the future.

Renewable Energy Jobs/ Renewable Energy Business Opportunities/ Renewable Energy Education

http://www.mygreenscene.com
http://www.greensceneems.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 02/25/2009
- JScott I'm a Fan of JScott 21 fans permalink

There's no route from Disneyland to Las Vegas according to this map, which has routes of higher priority. GOP gets it WRONG again-

http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/images/chsr/20080323164928_Preferred_State_020608-Small.pdf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 02/25/2009
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