SEIU's Stern: Solis' Absence Hurt Workers On Stimulus

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February 25, 2009 10:28 AM

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One of the nation's most prominent union leaders says that working Americans were deprived a voice during the debate over the stimulus package and housing bill because Republicans in the Senate had obstructed the nomination of Labor Secretary Hilda Solis.

In an interview with the Huffington Post shortly after Solis was confirmed on Tuesday afternoon, SEIU header Andy Stern expressed rejoice that "a child of immigrants who went to a public college" could rise to the upper echelons of executive office.

But his glee was tempered, a bit, by anger with Republicans in the Senate for holding up the Solis nomination for weeks over concerns about her commitment to the Employee Free Choice Act. Calling the delaying tactics "the same old Washington that voters are trying to move past," Stern said that Solis' absence deprived the early administration debates of a much-needed working class anchor.

"I think working people did not have an additional voice in her absence and particularly as it related to some of the issues of training, unemployment, insurance," said Stern. "Her voice would have been a very important and welcomed voice in a community of obviously very different voices. And I think her voice was missing and we are pretty proud that it is now there."

Looking forward, Stern expressed confidence that Congress, with Solis and President Obama steering the ship, would move forward on EFCA, a union priority that is bitterly opposed by the business community. He would not, however, name a definitive date or timeline by which he expected the legislation to be considered.

"In the end, we have to pass this bill in the House and the Senate. I'm not a congressional strategist," he said, "[but] I would say that in the end both houses are going to get to vote. And whatever way makes sense -- where it starts and where it ends is really not that important, as long as in the end everybody understands the importance of getting this job done. Which I believe they do."

I also asked Stern for his response to a number of recent revelations concerning recipients of bailout money using those funds on gratuitous or excessive items (junkets, bonuses, and the like). His response was the most visceral of the bunch, saying that legal recourse was likely the most sensible form of action. If it meant putting people found guilty in jail, so be it.

"I think people need to be prosecuted," said Stern. "I think this is an incredibly serious moment. I think the banks abused the trust that people had in them by making incredibly risky investments without appropriate safeguards and regulations. And if people continue to do that, the only appropriate response I think should be prosecution and, if found guilty, throw people in jail. People are tired of this."

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Workers who make more money and have better benefits spend more money and inject their cash into the local economies. When a local economy thrives, jobs are created. When those jobs are compensated fairly, more money flows into the local economy. The circle grows and grows and the next thing you know we see growth in the overall economy once again.

The problem with has been the greed of those at the top of their company. They want to pay less so they can bank more. The money is there, but unfortunately it is in the pockets of the few who are "in power". A CEO may buy several homes and several cars, but if their workers are making a livable wage, they will buy hundreds of homes and hundreds of cars. The economy grows...

EFCA NOW

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 02/25/2009
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Unmentioned in President Obama’s speech to Congress last night was the impending battle over “card check,” which promises to be anything but post-partisan. As conservatives debate how to defeat the Employee Free Choice Act — which, if passed, proponents argue would make it easier for workers to form unions — advocates of the law have fired their own salvo, a letter of support from more than three dozen prominent economists, including two Nobel Prize winners.

http://www.epi.org/issues/category/labor_policy/

The statement, released by the Economic Policy Institute today, states:

“Although its collapse has dominated recent media coverage, the financial sector is not the only segment of the U.S. economy running into serious trouble. The institutions that govern the labor market have also failed, producing the unusual and unhealthy situation in which hourly compensation for American workers has stagnated even as their productivity soared.

EFCA, which would allow workers to unionize without a secret ballot, “is not a panacea,” the signatories say, “but it would restore some balance to our labor markets.”

Among the supporters are several economists better known for their neoclassical “free trade” convictions than defending unions — including Laura Tyson, a former adviser to President Clinton who sits on the boards of Morgan Stanley and ATT, and Jagdish Bhagwati, Columbia University professor and former adviser to the World Trade Organization.


For More Information on EFCA please visit our websites and blog

http://www.employeefreechoiceactnow.org

http://efcanow.blogspot.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 02/25/2009
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I wonder if Republicans spin like this with their kids at home....

".......So, you see honey, we had to KILL your hamster to SAVE your hamster!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 02/25/2009
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You think Barney says gerb*l?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 02/25/2009

Although Andy is right that the individuals who misused the bailout and stimulus money should be prosecuted and incarcerated, Obama, Bush and both Congresses did not include clear, strong, unambiguous prohibitions against how the money was spent by the individuals and institutions receiving the money and did not include clear, strong, unambiguous criminal sanctions with predictable long periods of incarceration for such expenditures in the stimulus and bailout legislation either. So the greedy did what they always do, and the politicians from both parties, by excluding such language and reregulation intentionally permitted their campaign contributors to steal. I'm sure those people all feel shame because the poltiicians who excluded such language from the bailout and stimulus bills are screaming at them as they continue to collect their campaign contriubtions from them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 02/25/2009
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The stimulus bill had nothing to do with bailing anyone out. You're confusing TARP funds with the stimulus.

The stim bill, "American Recovery and Reinvestment Act", is about jobs rebuilding and repairing infrastructure, in the green energy sector, in IT for health care, etc. It also includes money to cities and states to maintain services so they don't have to layoff workers. It includes funds for food stamps and extending unemployment benefits, which will be the most stimulus part of the stim plan.

The TARP funds are being used to try to fix the financial industry and to reopen the credit markets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 02/25/2009

What I'm saying is that in neither Bill is there clear, strong unambiguous language protecting taxpayers from the kind of theft we saw in the bailout, nor is there criminal penalties for these expenditures.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 02/25/2009
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I consider myself a staunch democrat. That said, I am not so sure about the Employee Free Choice Act given the current state of the union. I look at the cataclysm that the US auto industry faces and the unwillingness of the union to either compromise and or accept concessions at a time when the auto industry is, well, circling the drain.

What does not make sense to me is the fact that if the industry files bankruptcy, there will be no jobs. The unwillingness to accept a stake in the company seems to speak volumes. This is the one issue I am unable to get my head completely around. If Union representatives serve the best interest of their members, the goal should probably be the preservation of the both the industry and its jobs.

How exactly can a union serve a member who is now unemployed because the company has gone bankrupt? What then is the purpose of the union? The idea that a union somehow "protects" a job from being eliminated or an employee from being laid off in an economic downturn seems unrealistic. Yet, those who choose to join seem to buy into this philosophy that participation in a union will somehow protect their jobs.

Am I completely off the mark with this idea?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 02/25/2009
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The argument assumes that - along goes the groupthink - "The money isn't there!"

Money didn't *disappear*, it was stolen by a small percentage of corporate cronies. What we have to do is GET IT BACK and punish the fascists who took it.

American Companies are crippled because of the banker-fascists whose empires are threatened by Obama. Unions, no unions - the banker oligarchs will still screw American companies (choking credit) and the economy will not move.

All that said, there is no better time for EFCA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 02/25/2009

Respectfully, you've come into the movie towards the end. Labor was told that rather than push for universal health care and a liveable retirement pension legislatively through a broad-based tax, we should negotiate those things with our employers. All of the rest of the industrialized world provides liveable pensions and universal health care through broad-based taxes.

As a result of Labor accepting the offer, it negotiated with the auto companies in good faith for pensions to supplement poverty-level Social Security benefits and health care. This made it difficult for their companies to compete with other auto companies from the industrialized world because those foreign companies did not have the costs of health care and pensions.

Now, at the time when this generation is ready to retire, it is being told to give up retirement benefits and health care while the companies that have caused the financial collapse through voodoo economics are being bailed out. Workers sacrificed wage increases their whole careers in order to get the retirement benefits and retirement health care and now are being told to give it up, just as Native Americans were told to give up their land to these barbarians.

The companies are using bankruptcy courts to serve the role the military served in stealing the land from the Native Americans

Pass EFCA Now and reform the Bankruptcy Act to protect workers' investments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 02/25/2009
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I get what you are saying. With all due respect, you did not answer the question. What purpose does a union serve when the company goes bankrupt or must downsize in order to survive. Can a union protect an employee's job?

And, I could not agree with you more that upper management has lived off "the fat of the land" for the past 8 years, and their "day of reckoning is upon us." Unfortunately, most of middle-America is suffering the consequences. My pension (after 19 years) went the way of the wind several years back . That said, every employee made sacrifices in an effort to save the company from extinction. We survived, and with the concessions each of us made, we still have a job to go to every day. For that, I am grateful. If 900 employees can come together, make sacrifices, and work together, it serves all involved. We did it. It was not easy, but we are doing what we have to do to serve everyone involved. Sorry I got a bit off topic.

Thanks for your response.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 02/25/2009
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republcians only want more tax cuts got $168 billion last year of our tax dollars and want cheap labour for their rich buddies! GOP welfare is over!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 02/25/2009
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And Dem welfare is in high gear..!! Spread it around...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 02/25/2009
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Spreading the wealth will be the best thing to happen to this country in 30 years. When jobs are created, people will have money to spend at businesses that will be able to hire more people who will have money to spend and so forth and so on.

That's spreading the wealth. When working Americans do well, everyone will do well and business can begin investing and growing and foreign investment will come back and we will have sufficient tax revenues to start paying down our debt obligations.

Ahhhhh....it'll be like the post WWII expansion. Good times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 02/25/2009
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Pres O have nothing to do with the market, WALL STREET is just shipping more of investors dollars overseas. It was WALL STREET and Neil Bush brother of "W' and W.H. Bush that cause all this mess. The GOP cannot be trusted, they are so dirty, you can't even take the stench away from these guys they stink so bad! It is time to ensure all these cooperations failed and yes a Goverment take over should not happen until the GOP accept that Government is the answer. it is funny the GOP and major banks want the Feds to bail them out and to nationalized, but the American people isn't worth bailing out. I believe we pay tax just to be taken care of. With all the TAX we pay we should have free education, free healthcare, free everything!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 02/25/2009
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I like it SPQR...free everything!! Now you're talking...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 02/25/2009
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Republicans love slavery and hate the working-class, how hard is that to understand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 02/25/2009
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Yeah Chavev ..that's why a REPUBLICAN freed all the slaves..think of something that makes sense..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 02/25/2009
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That old northeastern republican party dosent exist anymore. There are no elected republicans there.The republican party was GIVEN to the southern, racist, dixie crats by nixon. Learn some history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 02/25/2009
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True Conservatives dislike Lincoln because he stripped states of their sovereign rights and forced them into federalism, per corporate lobbying.

However, you're using the argument that what Lincoln did was positive/a good thing. So, which side of "Conservative" are you on? Are you a Libertarian or a corporatist?

Take your time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 02/25/2009
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and why democrats fought and voted against the civil rights act

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 02/25/2009
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correct..the bill would not have passed w/o GOP support...look it up Chavez...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 02/25/2009
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OK, so your for unions, I take it!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 02/25/2009
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Who was the President at the time, Vicky?

I'll wait for your Wiki-search....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 02/25/2009
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Southern Democrats who are now known as the GOP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 02/25/2009

This story is a bunch of bunk, sense ReThugs have held the oval office most of the last 50 years
then there must be a lot of working men/women voting against their own self interest. Say it ain't
so SAM.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 02/25/2009
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The disturbing trend continues....Obama did not speak yesterday and the mkt was way up..He spoke last night and the mkt is way down today.. Please Mr President, send us an email when you have something to say about the economy..Don't say it out loud..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 02/25/2009
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Wallstreet can pound it for all we care. We now have ONE economy. Most Americans "numbers" have been spiraling for 8 years, it's great the corporate oligarchy is joining the misery.

I hope you've said your peace to Reaganomics (tee-hee)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 02/25/2009
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Bush kept his mouth shut for a year and look where the economy is. Today's market is a reaction to the figures about the 4th quarter 2008 housing market.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 02/25/2009
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Pssst...HJT...Bush not Prez anymore...Economy and wars owned by Obama..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 02/25/2009
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You need to pay more attention to what the President has been saying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 02/25/2009
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Geesh....no matter what thread you go to the repubs are on cue with Rush's talking points. All about the market. These posters have no idea what that means but they have their marching orders and must obey.

Their job is to pretend that the republican party cares about them and therefore, if the market does well, that's good for all those unemployed people.

Oh, wait. When the market was at 10000 we were still losing thousands of jobs....never mind....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 02/25/2009
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sorry SB...didn't listen to Rush today...too busy keeping my undo*umented workers in line..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 02/25/2009
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They didnt want her sound bites to get out there denouncing the republicans cuts in compromise and negotiations. Solis may do great things for Americans, immigrants and workers yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 02/25/2009
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Seems this is backwards 180 from reality spinning.

The average person was not in favor of the stimulus pork-barrelling. The GOP tried to support that position of the average working man. It was the Democrats who circumvented the will of the people by passing the huge spending bill.

It is such a farce to have Obama pushing the pork-barrel bill and THEN decrying excessive spending!

Just how stupid does he think we are? ("WE" outside HuffPost, that is...)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 02/25/2009
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Apparently, pretty stupid. You call it pork, why? Because there are stipulations to the spending, like it must be done openly and fairly (something you always oppose) and must target many areas of the economy. You see, the bill has to target EVERY sector of the American Economy because every sector is close to failing. If we just gave the cash to one sector (namely the BANKS!) then the rest of us would not have a leg to stand on. Oh wait, you people need poor, uneducated Americans, otherwise you might have to rake your own leaves. Yeah, I'd say you guys are stupid as well as plain bad people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 02/25/2009
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How stupid do you think we are? If you are outside HuffPo, what are you doing in here? lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 02/25/2009

You don't seem to realize that "average" is relative. The "average" person I work with will benefit greatly from this stimulus bill. As an engineering firm, we have seen money for infrastructure projects dry up - this will help to get it flowing again.

Utility rates (like water bills) are so low that it is nearly impossible to finance public infrastructure projects without the use of tax dollars. But if suddenly your drinking water was contaminated because of lack of funding for upgrades and repairs, you would raise a big fuss and try and find someone to blame.

I am definitely looking forward to this much needed infrastructure spending. The Democrats certainly did not circumvent my will. I look forward to the work this bill will provide to this industry - and I'm sure the construction workers and everyone else involved in the process will appreciate it as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 02/25/2009
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Tell us again about the charity H*tler set up for the J*w-s!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 02/25/2009
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Just how stupid does he think we are?

Oooh, oooh, I know the answer to this one...LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 02/25/2009
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Haven't heard any comments from Michael
Steele today re: Obama's speech last night.
Did the GOP already muzzl e him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 02/25/2009
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EFCA is coming and no MSM spin or Reagan-era corporate-inspired lies can't stop it. That's gotta be pah-ritttteeeee frustrating for guys like Murdoch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 02/25/2009
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Another example of Republicans hating American democracy... They are piling up... They refused to seat Franken, denying Minnesota representation in the Senate too.

And they cheer when Americans are not represented.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 02/25/2009
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