Hillary Clinton Invites Iran To Afghan Talks

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ROBERT BURNS | March 5, 2009 12:50 PM EST | AP

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BRUSSELS, Belgium — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton proposed on Thursday a high-level international conference on Afghanistan to be sponsored by the United Nations and attended by a wide range of countries including Pakistan and possibly Iran.

Clinton presented the proposal at a NATO foreign ministers meeting where she said the session could be held March 31 and led by the U.N.'s special representative for Afghanistan, Kai Eide of Norway, who was appointed to improve coordination of international civilian assistance to Kabul.

She said discussions were under way with the U.N. on possibly having U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon open the conference.

"We hope that this meeting could provide an opportunity to reach a common set of principles, perhaps embodied in a chairman's statement, on a common way forward," she said, according to a prepared text released by her staff.

At a news conference later, Clinton said: "It is expected that Iran would be invited as a neighbor of Afghanistan."

She described the conference as "a way to bring all the stakeholders and interested parties together" while stressing that it so far is only a proposal.

NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer told a news conference that the proposed conference could be seen as a "big tent meeting" that would include a wide range of parties with an interest in stabilizing Afghanistan and preventing it from again serving as a haven for al-Qaida.

Clinton said that Afghanistan and Pakistan should attend the conference, along with NATO allies and those countries that have troops in Afghanistan. Without citing others by name, Clinton also proposed having in attendance "key regional and strategic countries," which appeared to mean Russia, India and possibly others, plus "major financial contributors and relevant international organizations."

Robert Wood, the State Department spokesman traveling with Clinton, said, "I would expect that Iran would be invited." That adds a new dimension to international diplomatic efforts in Afghanistan, which until now have had limited contributions from Iran.

Reaction to her proposal from other NATO foreign ministers was not immediately known.

The war effort in Afghanistan has deteriorated the past two years as the Taliban and extremist insurgency has gained strength and U.S. and allied casualties have increased. President Barack Obama has approved sending an additional 17,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan this spring and summer, but he also has emphasized the need to have a broader, unified international approach to the conflict.

BRUSSELS, Belgium — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton proposed on Thursday a high-level international conference on Afghanistan to be sponsored by the United Nations and attended by...
BRUSSELS, Belgium — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton proposed on Thursday a high-level international conference on Afghanistan to be sponsored by the United Nations and attended by...
 
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- jcwtts1 I'm a Fan of jcwtts1 148 fans permalink
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and a few days later Iran releases a US journalist they had been holding since January. Diplomacy works., lets try it.

J

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 03/06/2009

When Obama picked Hillary to be Secretary of State over Bill Richardson I was very disappointed. However if Bill Richardson said what Hillary said, conservatives would be attacking him. So perhaps picking Hillary to say what Obama wants her to say made more sense than Obama having Richardson say the same thing.

But I still have trouble believing what I seem to be seeing.

We still have the problem with more and more people sitting back and stop protesting and instead letting Obama straighten things out instead. One man can't do everything.

How do I change RichardKan­ePhiladell­phia to RichardKan­ePhiladelp­hia or better yet to RichardKanePA where I posted elsewhere?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 03/06/2009

Watch it first !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98

Use your head (I assume you have one), think hard, and come again :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 03/06/2009

Is there anyone here who really believes that the Iranians will be willing to have a tea party with the same lady who was gladly willing to "obliterate" their entire race just a few months ago???!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 03/06/2009

Why on earth would Iran trust Hillary any more than anyone else except her fanatics do? She said she'd obliterate them....bu­t then again maybe that was just a slip-up like the ducking bullets when landing in Kosovo thing? There are always excuses for Hillary -- she needs them at every turn. So much for "tough", "smart", "experienced". She is those things in abundance for finagling power and position for herself, but never yet for accomplishing anything of value for the country or the world she lives in. Now, all of a sudden, a policy she condemned as "naive" is something earth-shaking because it's a statement coming out of her mouth? I mean, if they're "working together" and she's just as much the boss as her boss, then she should take equal responsibility for this. Hillary pushed for special envoys, a clever strategy to indemnify herself in case any of the regional policies fail and so she can spread the blame as not having been the sole main negotiator.

Also, Iran was already at one international conference during the Bush administration, and Iran already has fairly good relations with Afghanistan and has attended international conferences on Afghanistan as well. So none of this inclusion of Iran into conferences is anything ground-breaking by her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 03/05/2009
- Yman I'm a Fan of Yman 4 fans permalink

Guess the POTUS knows more than you, since he chose her for the job.

Yeah, I know, I know ...

..... hard for you to believe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 03/06/2009
- ElkoJohn I'm a Fan of ElkoJohn 14 fans permalink
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chalk one for Lady Hill

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 03/05/2009
- tmay I'm a Fan of tmay permalink

One must recall that Iran, even prior to NATO combat operations in Afghanistan, was offering and assisting in countering the Taliban, whom aren't Shiites, and the narcotics trade. I have difficulty believing that Iran would be supporting Sunnis, especially with modern offensive weapons. It is possible that Iranian elements are providing weapons sales both with and outside the control of the Iranian Military, pretty much just like all the rest of the players in the region do.

Best turn to Juan Cole for analysis on the Middle East, because much of the postings here at HP our biased towards confrontation with Iran. Kudos to Secretary of State Clinton for bringing all parties to the table.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 03/05/2009
- Babele I'm a Fan of Babele 20 fans permalink
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Whoo! A tea party!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 03/05/2009
- AliMB I'm a Fan of AliMB 68 fans permalink
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Someone posted that "Iran is all about saber rattling rhetoric."

Iran does more than "saber-rattle"; it has American bl00d on their hands. Elements under the mullahs (Quds force) directly particpated in the k i l l i n g of US servicemen in Iraq thru the supply of IEDs popularly called E x p lo s i v e ly Formed Penentrators. FYI: EFP's are IEDs that turn a copper plate into a shaped projectile. The molten copper, formed by the b0mb's explosion, penetrates most armor on Humvees and other vehicles. The slug then turns a vehicle's armor into shrapnel that blasts through its insides. Iran also helped trained the infam0us "special groups" which have fought against US forces.

Even though Iran's influence in Iraq has severely weakened due to the success of nationalist and secular factions in Iraq's provincial elections, look for Iran to continue to play a destabilizing factor in Iraq thru its aforementioned puppets. In particular, watch out for the group known as Asaib Ahl al-Haq commanded by Akram al-Kabi. Al-Kabi already has an MO of a s s a s s i n a t i n g moderate politicians, and has made it clear that he wants to take over Al-Sadr's mantle as leader of the r a d i c a l Shiites. There are many reports that his group is back in Iran re-organizing. The Obama Administration needs to stay on guard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 03/05/2009

Dis.gustin­g the way HuffPost continues to post the worst photo's of Hillary. Grow TF up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 03/05/2009
- Yman I'm a Fan of Yman 4 fans permalink

It'll never happen .... they're a CDS blog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 03/06/2009
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

Ok, now we will see what stature Hillaryactually brings to her new position. After years of insulting Iran with her sabre rattling rhetoric, will Iran listen to her, participateand accept her leadership in brokering an international agreement on Afghanistan? Will they act on Obama's credibility even with the hypocritical Hillary delivering the message? Time will tell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 03/05/2009
- walkaway I'm a Fan of walkaway 3 fans permalink
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I think Iran is all about saber rattling rhetoric. They do it to us all the time. It's part of the game.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 03/05/2009
- Kaviraj I'm a Fan of Kaviraj 42 fans permalink
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Iran does not rattle any sabres, it postures against the sabre rattling of the US. It offered to help with Afghanistan and as thank-you, Bush declared it to be within the "Axis of Evil". Regardless of Hillary wanting to obliterate them, why would Iran want to listen? The US has already proven to be powerless - it cannot win in either Iraq or Afghanistan. Obama tries to get Putin to go against Iran and encircle it. Bush tried it with bases, Obama with supposed alliances. It amounts to the same. I would not be surprised if Iran told the US to "stuff it". It would be deserved too. American hegemony? What a joke! They could never "obliterate" Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 AM on 03/06/2009

I am sceptical about it !
Look at our players: Hillary Clinton, Dennis Ross and Richard Holbrook !
What they have accomplished ?
No substance, no reason, and no logic !

In my opinion, we have a losing team.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 03/05/2009
- Yman I'm a Fan of Yman 4 fans permalink

Really?

Guess you no longer trust 0bama's judgment, huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 03/06/2009
- Yman I'm a Fan of Yman 4 fans permalink

So if the talks don't produce an agreement, it's her fault? You keep saying she's just a "tourist in chief" with no responsibility.

I know you CDSers like to have it both ways, but it doesn't fly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 03/06/2009
- trudem2 I'm a Fan of trudem2 13 fans permalink

Could it be possible? A SANE foreign policy eminating from the US?

Am I dreaming?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 03/05/2009
- Lemmy I'm a Fan of Lemmy 19 fans permalink

KIlling American soldiers in Iraq isn't sane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 03/05/2009
- AliMB I'm a Fan of AliMB 68 fans permalink
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read my post below... Iran may be supplying weap0ns to insurgents in Afghanistan. If the reports on the Gremlins is true, NATO's helos could be in serious trouble in southern Afghanistan come later this year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 03/05/2009

I share your same dream, especially since Obama picked people who didn't have a habit to follow instuctions from their boss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 03/06/2009
- Kaviraj I'm a Fan of Kaviraj 42 fans permalink
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Yes, you are dreaming. Wait and see. I predict it will come to nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 AM on 03/06/2009
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In general, the moral and ethical decision is always on the side of underdogs. Suppose all Arab countries want to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth because it is a Jewish state, we should stand by Israel; however, if most Arab states want to make peace with Israel, but Israel tries to take advantage of the weakest of Arab people, the Palestanians, we should stand by the Palestanians. That is the lesson of all great people or prophets. Iran's support for the Palestanian people is not without cause, so it should not be used against them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 03/05/2009

Among many other things It is also about OIL/GAS - Energy source
Saudi Arabia - OIL
Iran and Qatar - GAS/OIL

Every time you put something in you got just 35 % out of it.
Think BIG !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 03/05/2009
- Kaviraj I'm a Fan of Kaviraj 42 fans permalink
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A sane comment. Congratulations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 AM on 03/06/2009

kudos to hill and the obama administration!

you can't climb a mountain if you don't take that first step.

Too bad she'll have to wait until 2016 to make another run for the white house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 03/05/2009

Afghanistan has a long history of conflict with its internal tribal clashes along with attempted invasions from outside countries. It is amazing that the country is still standing with some sense of normalcy considering the destruction it has endured in last 30 plus years. The ethnic factions that make up the Pasthuns (dominant ethnic tribe), Tajiks, Uzbeks, and the Hazaras are multi-faceted in their ethnic features but have a common bond, their all Afghans. I believe a representative from each faction should be nominated to represent their region thru a democtratic process. In this way, no one group should feel disenfranchised. I commend Obama and Hillary for recognizing that it's crucial to involve surrounding neigbors in the diplomatic process because civilian casualties will not bring any result to peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 03/05/2009

Alright number one seriously Iran and Afganistan meeting will not be useful what so ever. Both countries don't like the US let alone like each other. If this is done for media attention then forget it if done for negotiation forget it. I believe that we should only talk to Iran after they stop making extreme racial comments against Israel, and for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to stop sounding like the next extreme fascists of our century.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 03/05/2009

Though I would doubt that one can think of Afhanistan as a "country", or nation. Afghanistan has come a long way since Ahmad Schah Durrani. And even if the British colonialists wouldn't have left a border to Pakistan that's as respected by the Pashtuns as Americans would have respected a third term in office for George Bush, it would have been a stretch to think of Afghanistan as something we call a nationstate. What counts is the tribe, below that the clan, then the family. That's how it's always been, that's what it'll be like in many years to come. They don't give a damn on western interpretations of how a society should be organized. And why should they.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 03/05/2009
- Hazbara I'm a Fan of Hazbara 3 fans permalink

An exercise in futility.
More than one player is not interested in reconciliation.
Peace and cohabitation would undermine their sphere of influence in the ME.
Causing trouble and mischief suits them just fine.
Even if the protagonists sit down, others will make sure nothing positive come off it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 03/05/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 65 fans permalink

I have never read quite such an accurate description of Is ray al position before. Well done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 03/05/2009
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Thruthseek­er... I recognise you...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 03/05/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 140 fans permalink
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Like another poster stated, Is ray el described to a "T"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 03/05/2009
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