More Americans Say They Have No Religion

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RACHEL ZOLL | 03/ 9/09 12:14 AM | AP

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A wide-ranging study on American religious life found that the Roman Catholic population has been shifting out o of the Northeast to the Southwest, the percentage of Christians in the nation has declined and more people say they have no religion at all.

Fifteen percent of respondents said they had no religion, an increase from 14.2 percent in 2001 and 8.2 percent in 1990, according to the American Religious Identification Survey.

Northern New England surpassed the Pacific Northwest as the least religious region, with Vermont reporting the highest share of those claiming no religion, at 34 percent. Still, the study found that the numbers of Americans with no religion rose in every state.

"No other religious bloc has kept such a pace in every state," the study's authors said.

In the Northeast, self-identified Catholics made up 36 percent of adults last year, down from 43 percent in 1990. At the same time, however, Catholics grew to about one-third of the adult population in California and Texas, and one-quarter of Floridians, largely due to Latino immigration, according to the research.

Nationally, Catholics remain the largest religious group, with 57 million people saying they belong to the church. The tradition gained 11 million followers since 1990, but its share of the population fell by about a percentage point to 25 percent.

Christians who aren't Catholic also are a declining segment of the country.

In 2008, Christians comprised 76 percent of U.S. adults, compared to about 77 percent in 2001 and about 86 percent in 1990. Researchers said the dwindling ranks of mainline Protestants, including Methodists, Lutherans and Episcopalians, largely explains the shift. Over the last seven years, mainline Protestants dropped from just over 17 percent to 12.9 percent of the population.

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The report from The Program on Public Values at Trinity College in Hartford, Conn., surveyed 54,461 adults in English or Spanish from February through November of last year. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 0.5 percentage points. The findings are part of a series of studies on American religion by the program that will later look more closely at reasons behind the trends.

The current survey, being released Monday, found traditional organized religion playing less of a role in many lives. Thirty percent of married couples did not have a religious wedding ceremony and 27 percent of respondents said they did not want a religious funeral.

About 12 percent of Americans believe in a higher power but not the personal God at the core of monotheistic faiths. And, since 1990, a slightly greater share of respondents _ 1.2 percent _ said they were part of new religious movements, including Scientology, Wicca and Santeria.

The study also found signs of a growing influence of churches that either don't belong to a denomination or play down their membership in a religious group.

Respondents who called themselves "non-denominational Christian" grew from 0.1 percent in 1990 to 3.5 percent last year. Congregations that most often use the term are megachurches considered "seeker sensitive." They use rock style music and less structured prayer to attract people who don't usually attend church. Researchers also found a small increase in those who prefer being called evangelical or born-again, rather than claim membership in a denomination.

Evangelical or born-again Americans make up 34 percent of all American adults and 45 percent of all Christians and Catholics, the study found. Researchers found that 18 percent of Catholics consider themselves born-again or evangelical, and nearly 39 percent of mainline Protestants prefer those labels. Many mainline Protestant groups are riven by conflict over how they should interpret what the Bible says about gay relationships, salvation and other issues.

The percentage of Pentecostals remained mostly steady since 1990 at 3.5 percent, a surprising finding considering the dramatic spread of the tradition worldwide. Pentecostals are known for a spirited form of Christianity that includes speaking in tongues and a belief in modern-day miracles.

Mormon numbers also held steady over the period at 1.4 percent of the population, while the number of Jews who described themselves as religiously observant continued to drop, from 1.8 percent in 1990 to 1.2 percent, or 2.7 million people, last year. Researchers plan a broader survey on people who consider themselves culturally Jewish but aren't religious.

The study found that the percentage of Americans who identified themselves as Muslim grew to 0.6 percent of the population, while growth in Eastern religions such as Buddhism slightly slowed.

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- topkatnc I'm a Fan of topkatnc 30 fans permalink
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When there are more non-believers than believers.. time will be up for us....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 03/11/2009
- LaSirene I'm a Fan of LaSirene 5 fans permalink

The reason the number of people identifying with religion is shrinking is because people are seeing the clear insanity and hypocrisy acted out every day in our world by "the religious." The leaders are arrogant and often charlatan/­swindlers, and the followers are willing to KILL for a loving savior? C'mon.

If religious people are horrified at all this, they should freaking clean house.

I was raised Christian but refuse to be identified with the face of Christianity on earth today- which is a FAR CRY from how I was raised (my own family members have shifted into this new "Christian" paradigm). They are full of judgement and are now moralistic instead of moral. They completely discount everything Christ said in favor of Old Testament laws that Jesus even said he came to change.

Jesus called people like this "Whited Sepulchres" and so do I.

I prefer to live a good life full of love and light- try to be as honest and kindhearted as I can and be done with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 03/11/2009

couldnt have said it better myself. religion is at the heart of all conflicts on earth.

TJ and the Tux gave some funny commentary about this on "the 1st 100 days of obama" this week on www.eastvillageradio.com, http://www.tjandthetux.blogspot.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 03/11/2009

LaSirene,
If you didn't focus on the hatred and judgemental attitude and you did your homework, you might learn that religion has motivated many good people to contribute in positive ways to society.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 03/12/2009
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Your own family members might be like that, but that doesn't mean most Christians are like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 03/12/2009

Pulease.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 03/11/2009
- wltdnfaded I'm a Fan of wltdnfaded 64 fans permalink
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Yup, the Rapture is a'comin. Wear a helmet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 03/11/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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I hope the Rapture comes for them... We get all their stuff ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 03/12/2009
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 113 fans permalink
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yeah. time to think... how horrible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 03/12/2009

I joined the fastest growing religon in the UK according to their last census.

I became a Jedi.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 03/11/2009

May the "Force" be with you LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 03/11/2009
- wltdnfaded I'm a Fan of wltdnfaded 64 fans permalink
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I'm a Sith myself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 03/11/2009

So sad to think that becoming a Jedi is a religious experience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 03/12/2009

Do you know that Star Wars was inspired by Joseph Campbell's "The Hero With a Thousand Faces? Campbell was an American Mythologist and known for his work in comparative mythology and comparative religion. So yes, becoming a Jedi can be a religious experience.

Cambell was a fascinating writer with much to say about the myths incorporated in religion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 03/12/2009
- GodIs I'm a Fan of GodIs 13 fans permalink
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Many ask, “How can I be happy in Heaven knowing that a close family member has been sentenced to He//?” In Heaven, the righteous will fully comprehend the exceeding sinfulness of sin. They will not see the attractive, Hollywood and Madison Avenue version of sin. They will view sin as God perceives sin. They will look upon their unrepentant infidel family members with utter contempt, guilty sinners and deserving of their eternal torment. God is love.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 03/11/2009

Try expressing your own view,instead mindlessly repeating stuff you've been taught.
Besides you're taking this WAY too seriously. Relax.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 03/11/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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It is hard to leash the genie... You yourself have posted in favor of religious war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 03/12/2009
- glaze I'm a Fan of glaze 6 fans permalink
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Polly want a cracker?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 03/11/2009
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"They will look upon their unrepentant infidel family members with utter contempt, guilty sinners and deserving of their eternal torment. God is love."

I had to read that a few times, and NOT because the words are unfamiliar or difficult. Does anyone, especially the posting person, not see the unfunny contradiction in those statements? They are right up there with those things they put over the gates to the concentration camps- "Labor Makes You Free" was one of them.

And somewhere in those precious, infallible scriptures, isn't there something about no person knowing the mind of God? How does that jibe with "They will view sin as God perceives sin"? Enlighten the rest of us- what makes you so special, to contradict what the good book says?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 03/11/2009
- jwcmass I'm a Fan of jwcmass 51 fans permalink

I had the same reaction you did--Is this sarcasm or cognitive dissonance?

In either case it certainly is not an accurate reflection of what the Bible says about God--except for the last sentence. God is Love.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 AM on 03/12/2009

Eternal torment. Then you say God is love? What bullshit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 03/11/2009
- dj5850 I'm a Fan of dj5850 14 fans permalink

GodIs:

Are you serious?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 03/12/2009

"The whole history of science has been the gradual realization that events do not happen in an arbitrary manner, but that they reflect a certain underlying order..." Stephen Hawking

Not only those who adhere to the language game of science have the exclusive right to the understanding of that order.

This would largely discount the lore from the people of the Book.

But many schools of wisdom in Taoism,, Hindu and Zen etc traditions developed very sophisticated worldviews on par with and at times exceeding latest advances in modern sciences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 03/11/2009
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I'll make a deal with you, you give up all the benefits that science has provided mankind, and I'll give all the "benefits" religion has provided mankind ( gee I'll miss terrorism, oppression and war). We could give it a couple months and then compare notes, but then you won't have the internet or a cell phone in your cave, will you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 03/11/2009
- wltdnfaded I'm a Fan of wltdnfaded 64 fans permalink
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Don't forget misogyny and child abuse. I'll miss those like crazy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 03/11/2009

Infoasteam and caibrat, you completely misunderstood my post.

Points for study:
It is in modern physics that the highest achievements of the scientific method and technology begin to intersect with understanding of nature developed thousand of years ago via profound meditation on the nature of reality.

Start with the new edition of "Tao of Physics" by F. Capra.
Then build up to highly sophisticated concepts in " Tao Te Ching" by Lao Tzu.

Come back and we'll have a discussion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 03/11/2009
- jwcmass I'm a Fan of jwcmass 51 fans permalink

It need not be an either/or question--as I've said before, when done properly, science and faith ask different questions.

Science is very good at asking questions about the univers around us and how we got here and developing new technology

But it's not well equipped to ask questions like "yes we CAN make the A-bomb, but SHOULD we?'

(I find it ironic the thought of Oppenheimer as he witnessed the first A-Bomb, he thought of a Hindu scripture quote "I have become death, the destroyer of worlds" and when you see the film of him recounting this years later, he has a haunted look in his eyes.



Now don't get me wrong, religion can certainly screw this up -- but it can also help provide a dialog for ethics in dealing with new technology (whetever your faith, or nonfaith) New questions emerge daily in the field of medical ethics, and end of life issues that families have to grapple with every day.

So we don't have to choose between one OR the other (and at the same time shouldn't feel threatend by those who don't choose to believe or vice versa.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 03/12/2009
- ciabrat I'm a Fan of ciabrat 3 fans permalink
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IMHO, better not to confuse belief in a higher power or underlying order with religion - very different. I'm a former seminarian, former catholic, former professed religious. In the emergency room the other day, I was asked if I wanted to identify with a religion in case things really went south - my answer: "no" - followed by a remarkable feeling of comfort and relief. Now I'm not burdened by anything but my humanity, which still carries a moral compass, just without the overlaid bs and arrogance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 03/11/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 03/12/2009
- antifluff I'm a Fan of antifluff 15 fans permalink

Hasn't science been advanced by Christians? Weren't most of the brilliant minds in history Christians? Can you compare the inventions and achievements of ALL the other religions compared to Christians and Jews accomplishments?
At what point did science ignore possibilities? Because people couldn't see atoms, they did not believe they existed. When people advanced in learning, and new inventions were made, the atom was demonstrated and proven true. Now "scientific minds" deny the possibility that God exists, even though many admit some "alien intelligence" probably helped " put life on earth.
I wonder what the "atheists" will say when science finally advances enough to show evidence of God? What will they say to those they called foolish and other names when they discover that "they" are on the slow learning curve?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 03/11/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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It is a Fractal Universe, space is not curved, and if their is a God, he throws dice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 03/12/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 03/12/2009
- jwcmass I'm a Fan of jwcmass 51 fans permalink

Science can not BY DEFINITION show evidence of God.

Science deals with NATURAL phenomena and the NATURAL world.

God is SUPER-NTURAL (that means beyond or outside of nature)

So it's outside of science's provenance to explore God, because anything SUPERNATUAL is beyond the scientifc method.

This is the realm of faith , based on what we believers believe to be divine revelation (usually through sacred writings-- sometimes through a prophet or --for Christians --in the person of jesus himself)

But as matters of faith, there is no way to "prove this scientifically.

When done properly, science and faith ask different sets of questions and need not be in conflict.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 AM on 03/12/2009
- jwcmass I'm a Fan of jwcmass 51 fans permalink

Science can not BY DEFINITION show evidence of God.



Science deals with NATURAL phenomena and the NATURAL world.



God is SUPER-NTURAL (that means beyond or outside of nature)



So it's outside of science's provenance to explore God, because anything SUPERNATUAL is beyond the scientifc method.



This is the realm of faith , based on what we believers believe to be divine revelation (usually through sacred writings-- sometimes through a prophet or --for Christians --in the person of jesus himself)



But as matters of faith, there is no way to "prove this scientifically.



When done properly, science and faith ask different sets of questions and need not be in conflict.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 AM on 03/12/2009

Also in Christian theology there is much wisdom. I know that it is popular to include every one but Christianity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 03/12/2009
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And the other religion, the one with dual citizenships and a huge lobby in the United States government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 03/12/2009

I exclude all three religions of the Book.
Primarily because the Book and its sequels have little to do with modern understanding of the Universe. And everything to do with a mixture of tribal myth and Babylonian cosmology. Not a good source for understanding evolution of our galaxy, for instance.
Although as morality plays, metaphors and various archetypal models all 3 religious tradition of the book succeeded admirably..
Caveat: In my opinion Catholic monks, Muslim Sufi and Jewish Hassids developed very interesting traditions of self-knowledge. .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 03/12/2009
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The decline in religious affiliation is Darwinian -- the advancement of our species out of the superstition and childish fairy tales that we required during earlier times in our evolutionary process. More and more people are awakening to a direct connect with All That Is. We no longer require intermediaries -- priests and other witch doctors -- to intercede on our behalves. We don't need supercilious dogmas and rituals to sustain us through our fear. Fundamentalism of every ilk is but the death rattles of those aspects of humanity that have atrophied, and will simply fall away, the detritus of antiquity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 03/11/2009

Currently the decline in religious affiliation you place your hopes in is only predominant in economically and culturally prosperous cultures: N. America,W. Europe, Russia, China, Japan etc

In the parts of the world where poverty and prejudice predominate ( Middle East, Pakistan, N. Africa, Bangladesh, no such phenomenon can be observed.

There was nothing Darwinian ( in your understanding) about rise of fanatical Christianity and Islam following rather non-religious and secular Pax Romana.
It would only take one global catastrophe for a very quick resurgence of religious fanaticism. Count on it..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 03/11/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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You forgot to mention z i o n

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 03/12/2009

Well that was just depressing! Please say it isn't so...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 03/12/2009

No let;s climb the Tower of Babel again...each our own authority...having to reinvent the wisdom every day. It sounds like some nightmare of reincarnation. .No tradition for us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 03/12/2009
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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The Founding Fathers disagree with you. That is why they specifically insisted upon the separations of Government and Religion in the United States of America.

That is the tradition the religionists wish to undo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 03/12/2009

Authority is nothing unless you give it power. Your authority is the church and think everyone else should give it authority also. If everyone stopped allowing themselves to be dictated by "authority", it would vanish. Then you would have your own wisdom, not the wisdom borrowed from authority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 03/12/2009
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That explains everything. God is angry with us. ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 03/11/2009

After reading this article I first though, "How is that possible that more American's have no religion," I mean they just passed prop 8 in California. Then after having seen the statistic that 34% of Americans are born again Evangelical Christians, it became perfectly clear. However, it would have been interesting to have known why more people are turning away or claiming to have no religion even though it still is such a large issue in the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 03/11/2009
- antifluff I'm a Fan of antifluff 15 fans permalink

It doesn't ask how many people are "religious". Many people that go to church claim no religious affiliation. It is media hype to try and influence the average person to turn from God.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 03/11/2009
- edsommers I'm a Fan of edsommers 3 fans permalink

And it warms my heart to see that it's working. An enlightened population makes better decisions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 03/11/2009

Christianity is a business, it always has been. The ruling class throughout history has used religion, or their interpretation though their direct pipeline to God, think Oral Roberts and Jimmy Swaggert or any one of a hundred Popes, as a means of suppression and control of the ignorant masses.

Buddha and Confucious who did not claim divinity far predate Christianity and certainly make a lot more sense than the mythical and divine Jesus.

Meanwhile the planet is dying while we fight religious wars. We have lost our way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 03/11/2009
- antifluff I'm a Fan of antifluff 15 fans permalink

If these cultures are good, why did they become stagnate? Why are a lot of the people that followed these ways turning to Christianity?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 03/11/2009

And the current GOP is different how?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 03/12/2009
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Yes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 AM on 03/12/2009
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Christianity is a continuation of the Roman Empire. It is modeled on the structure, hierarchies, and methods of conquest the Romans developed. After conquering Europe (Pagans), they moved onto the Crusades, Inquisitions, New World (more Pagans), and attempted to conquer the entire world (Colonialism). The current wars in Iraq and Afganistan are wars of Empire building disguised as "War on Global Terror". We are still bloody Romans after the plunder and territory. America, trusting in God, is manipulated by the Christian doctrine of Roman superiority and "rightness". Like DOS under the Microsoft OS, Latin (Rome) underlays our legal system, language, and behavior. If we truly had a separation of Church and State, there would be no "War on Global Terror", marriage between lovers of legal age would be unquestioned and legal regardless of gender, abortion would be a personal choice discussed only as a medical procedure, stem cell research would be funded and benefiting society, evolution would be unchallenged and in all secondary curriculum, President Gore would have had eight years to address Climate Change, guys named Hamid could jump on a plane without our Nazi airport security strip searching him, and I could hang out with my family without being heaped with pity, guilt trips, and evangelizing. But no. We are still Romans out to conquer the inferiors and expand the Empire. If I am around Christians, I must be silent--they are after all the great Caesars that have all the answers, and power, and they kill Pagans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 03/11/2009
- youngat80 I'm a Fan of youngat80 9 fans permalink

Many people would label this as a modern-day myth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 03/11/2009
- antifluff I'm a Fan of antifluff 15 fans permalink

That is an optimistic opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 03/11/2009

The Romans were polytheists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 03/11/2009
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Until the fall of Rome, and the removal of the seat of government to Byzantium. At which point they became Christians... This event marked a point in history separating the Roman Empire from the Byzantine Empire... But the founders of the Byzantine Empire were most certainly Romans, displaced as they were.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 03/12/2009

The Roman Empire was hardly Christian, so if we are Romans we are not Christians, but people who feel entitled to what we want. Various Romans may have adopted the clothes of Christians, much as GOP does currently, for political purposes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 03/12/2009
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You need to study history. The Roman Empire became the Roman Catholic Empire in an effort to distract people from the failure of Roman government and law, and as a means to enforce political control upon the displaced Roman court as they moved from the sacked and fallen Rome to the more militarily defensable Byzantium.

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You left out half of Christedom. Eastern Christians (the Orthodox) were in Constantinople, not Rome. They were actually victimized by the Crusaders who sacked Istanbul (the called Constantinople). They had no inquisition. [Technically, Pagans (if by Pagans you mean those who believed in the Greek and Roman gods) did kill Christians at a certain point in history by the way. And Stalin killed many Christians and other groups in modern times. Those that died preferred death to denial of their beliefs.] A lot of the things you attribute to Christians in general are not part of general Christian thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 AM on 03/12/2009
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JESUS SAVES SOULS AND REDEEMS THEM (for valuable prizes) or JESUS, PLEASE SAVE ME FROM YOUR FOLLOWERS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 03/11/2009

I agree that the news stories of Catholic Priests molesting kids probably had an impact on this. How messed up is that. Glad I was not raised Catholic. :)

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 03/11/2009

Actually the Catholics have helped build institutions like schools, hospitals and hospices in India etc.. so in the last 50 years or so, the net effect of their good and bad, they may still come out on top.

But I am afraid, the Southern Baptists and the Pentacostals have been true h0rror in places like India. These two organizations are singularly responsible for religious rights in India from the NE India to the recent riots in the Indian state of Orissa where these evangalicals KiIIled a Hindu priest who went around reconverting the recent converts from Christianity to Hindusim. He tried to beat the evangalicals in their own game even though there is no proseltizing in Hindusim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 03/11/2009

I meant to say "religious riots" not "religious rights"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 03/11/2009
- angiemomma I'm a Fan of angiemomma 8 fans permalink

Sarah Palin is a Pentacostal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 03/11/2009

Most Catholics don't take the dogma as seriously as those in many right-wing Protestant sects do, I think that's probably the biggest difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 03/11/2009
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I agree, but we can also learn to love each other as brothers and sisters and work together for the common good of our planet and ourselves. There is one race of humans not many. If there were no religions or countries to fight and die for, we might just get together and work in peace for the generations yet to come. Think "Imagine", John Lennon's song, it is a wonderful thought and is possible.

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- antifluff I'm a Fan of antifluff 15 fans permalink

People don't fight over religions. People fight over resources and wealth, religion is used by the ungodly to flame the fires of h@te.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 03/11/2009

So true, antifluff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 03/12/2009
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It is an unwanted battle..because many religious people want to base use their faith as a basis for laws and morality...

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Honestly, I don't care what someone else believes -- whatever floats *their* boat is their business. I'm just beside myself with amazed glee that the President acknowledged non-believers in his inaugural address and to see this trend toward freethinking and have it get face time in the press. Finally an all-inclusive face in our leadership. Thank (my) god!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 03/11/2009

As for belief, we are creatures with bodies and souls. We hunger for more than we can see and believe that ultimate truth is beyond our capabilities in this life. Some truths about our nature, God's nature have been revealed to us and these do shape our thinking to give us reference points, so that we are not lost in a world of fantasy or wish it could be. Our principles also enable us to believe that we can achieve more than continued hatred and division in the name of anything, because we believe there is one creator, known by different people by different names. We are Catholics and others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 03/12/2009

I know of no reiIgion that has played the "Persequt!on complex" to the hilt while comm!tting the most atr0c!ties in the world as Chr!stianity and IsIam and have gone on to become the two goIiaths of predat0ry reIigions in the world.

H!story is my witness!

They continue to do this today..and even the liberal press helps them with this. When a Christian somewhere cries he is being persecuted somewhere in Asia or Africa, the loser is most likely bluffing. same goes to MusIims too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 03/11/2009
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