Obama's Circle Of Pastors

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New York Times   |  LAURIE GOODSTEIN   |   03/14/09

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New York Times:

President Obama has been without a pastor or a home church ever since he cut his ties to the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. in the heat of the presidential campaign. But he has quietly cultivated a handful of evangelical pastors for private prayer sessions on the telephone and for discussions on the role of religion in politics

All are men, two of them white and three black -- including the Rev. Otis Moss Jr., a graying lion of the civil rights movement. Two, the entrepreneurial dynamos Bishop T. D. Jakes and the Rev. Kirbyjon H. Caldwell, also served as occasional spiritual advisers to President George W. Bush. Another, the Rev. Jim Wallis, leans left on some issues, like military intervention and poverty programs, but opposes abortion.

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President Obama has been without a pastor or a home church ever since he cut his ties to the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. in the heat of the presidential campaign. But he has quietly cultivated a handf...
President Obama has been without a pastor or a home church ever since he cut his ties to the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. in the heat of the presidential campaign. But he has quietly cultivated a handf...
 
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Pray that he is appeasing and proactively keeping their hands busy, lest they become idle and later thorns to be dealt with after the fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 03/15/2009
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Mr. President, for the middle men, go straight to God for spiritual advice and substanance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 03/15/2009
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Please, Mr. President, don't seek your salvation with any of these people! You are better than this!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 03/15/2009

I dig the racial mix of his pastorial selection; iteminds me a bit of one of the Bush twins being married by a Black minister.

As Dr. King said, Sunday morning is usually one of the most segregated times of the week, so it's touching when the races choose to worship together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 03/15/2009

Why is this a story?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 03/15/2009
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Because EVERYTHING about Obama is a story...ki­nd of like Brad and Angelina except there is only one of him. Haven't you noticed?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 03/15/2009

IT'S A STORY BEACAUSE ''SOME PASTORS'' ARE POKING THEIR NOSES IN EVERYONE ONE'S BUSINESS BUT THEIRS,,,,, CLAIM TO KNOW JC MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 03/15/2009
- DrPneumann I'm a Fan of DrPneumann 8 fans permalink

Does the president REALLY need the advice of these multi-million dollar making mega-church ministers or is he just pleasing the MASS-es?

Yes, pun intended.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 03/15/2009
- youngat80 I'm a Fan of youngat80 9 fans permalink

I would prefer the inclusion of one of the mainstream denominations, or one of the smaller denominations of Pietist-Anabaptist traditions such as the Friends (where the girls go to school) or Brethren/Mennonite.
But I understand the need for the more flamboyant worship services of the Black tradition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 03/15/2009
- Bpeirce I'm a Fan of Bpeirce 16 fans permalink

Mr. President
A bit of advice. You don't need these people. There nothing but Golden Calfs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 03/15/2009
- Freesia2 I'm a Fan of Freesia2 295 fans permalink

My guess is that Obama is doing what he always does. He's listening to various points of view on the matter, knowing that it's not a question of "will" they influence sections of America, but "why" because they already do. And I can't seem to feel concerned that their points of view will influence or change his policies on various social or constitutional issues, because if they were going to they already would have. Obama listens and tries to understand. It's one of the things I like best about the way his mind works.

I hope he does find a church or counselor that suits him personally. Not for me - I'm a Christian who frankly does most of my spiritual studying alone. But because I think his faith is part of his calm nature. If he can find what he's personally looking for, it is good for us too. Whether it be in a church building, or just quiet talks with the pastor of his choice.

His religious faith doesn't need to be threatening. His basic beliefs don't seem to have anything in common with the Palin type of conquering the world and bringing on armageddon, which is terrifying. He just seems to be a spiritual man, who happens to be a Christian and happens to make room for other people's beliefs or non-belief.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 03/15/2009
- Zanti I'm a Fan of Zanti 25 fans permalink
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"He's listening to various points of view on the matter....­"

But his inner circle is comprised of social conservatives. Not to mention some mega-church sorts. Where's the variety?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 03/15/2009
- FebM I'm a Fan of FebM 37 fans permalink

This is his private life we dont need to get involved in right now

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 03/15/2009
- grata2ude I'm a Fan of grata2ude 61 fans permalink

You've said it all. He is entitled to his privacy in matters like this. American's have gotten too nosy for their own good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 03/15/2009
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Anything that affects his decision making is our business.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 03/15/2009
- 1088 I'm a Fan of 1088 100 fans permalink

If you want to see a true Christian, look no further than the President Of the United States, in comparison to the co called Christian right. Our President exemplifies love, peace, kindness, compassion, forgiveness, love, peace and calmness. Unfortunately from the Christian right, we see selfishness, hate, judgemental, anger, liars and violence. Don't hate the President for holding on to a higher power, that gives him strength. Thank God that he has something of faith to hold on to in a crisis and danger. Thank you God for looking after our President, thank you!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 03/15/2009
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 563 fans permalink
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Well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 03/15/2009
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Yes, but don't think every Christian out there is like the hypocritical Christian so often found on the right of the political spectrum. While I support Obama, I am a member of the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod - small "c" conservative church.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 03/15/2009
- Damaven I'm a Fan of Damaven 8 fans permalink

The way I hear it from all preachers, your church is within you. The building is just that. Praise God wherever you are and in your private prayer closet. God's not looking for a show, he's happy with your love, faith and obedience. Amen and hallelujah!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 03/15/2009
- svmaggieb I'm a Fan of svmaggieb 2 fans permalink

Please, please, please, Mr. President! Don't drink the kool-aid! It's poison!

Enough with the prayer thing...no­-one's listening already.

If, on the other hand, you are just throwing a bone to the religious whackos that these suits represent, then please, have at it.

Do what it takes to pacify them long enough to get science and reason back in place.

We have at least 8 years of catching up to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 03/15/2009
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 563 fans permalink
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Your comment is silly.

In other words, what you're suggesting is that since you don't accept or believe in prayer, then no one else should - including the President!

Can I also assume that if someone who does believe in prayer tried to impose their belief on you, as you want to impose your belief on the President, you would find it acceptable?

It works both ways, you know!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 03/15/2009
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 51 fans permalink

These five men are all basically conservative no matter wht this article says and they are probably rubbing their hands together saying "I got him, I got him". None are truly progressive. T.J. Jakes...pr­ogressive?­?? Well at least he is not Rick Warren. And Obama has a very progressive denominational backgd. I am extremely disappointed (even tho I know it is not any of our business) that Obama has totally thrown Trinity UCC under the bus and goes with these men who have some very narrow beliefs. But then, Obama has to feel somewhat betrayed by J Wright too and when that happens in the church you love, it is hard not to steer away from like kind. Been there, done that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 03/15/2009
- svmaggieb I'm a Fan of svmaggieb 2 fans permalink

But, but, but, gee. You're right. There really is a different set of laws of probability for those of us who pray, versus those of us who don't. Not.

http://whydoesgodhateamputees.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 03/15/2009

its disgusting that he needs to include any of these clowns in anything. all five of them are just a red rubber ball away from being circus side shows.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 03/15/2009
- Jimmyboyo I'm a Fan of Jimmyboyo 19 fans permalink

why does he need a home church?

But if he must then let it be the NATIONAL CATHEDRAL! What better way to help unite america than in the nations cathedral where rabbis, mullahs, priests, pastors, preachers, Native American shamans etc all come together in celebratio­n!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!! United otherwise have none of it and away with all myths

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 03/15/2009
- PWM I'm a Fan of PWM 251 fans permalink
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Good point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 03/15/2009
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 51 fans permalink

Because it is not a HOME church. It is an Episcopal church that somehow became the showcase for many different type of services but it is not a homey church. The Obama's probably also want something that will give their girls a background. Most presidents only use that beautiful place as an official gathering house of worship.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 03/15/2009
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Because in the Bible we are told to congregate with our fellow Christians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 03/15/2009
- Stokes I'm a Fan of Stokes 7 fans permalink

Obama needs to stay away from the blind pastors and keep a one on one relationship with the Lord along with sincere prayer from his constituents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 03/15/2009
- Jimmyboyo I'm a Fan of Jimmyboyo 19 fans permalink

The lord of what?

The bible??? which supports slavery, says that any man who trims the hairs of their beard must be stoned to death (no shaving for you), that eating shrimp is evil, the earth is flat, etc

myths and fairytales

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 03/15/2009
- PWM I'm a Fan of PWM 251 fans permalink
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And bad morals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 03/15/2009
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of the Rings ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 03/15/2009
- Stokes I'm a Fan of Stokes 7 fans permalink

Get out of the Old Testament and get into the New.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 03/15/2009
- Zanti I'm a Fan of Zanti 25 fans permalink
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I see. Since the Bible is anything but a perfect document, it must have no value? Not being a fundie, I make no demands for perfection from the Bible OR God. Perfection is a man-made notion. Those who demand perfection are absolutists. Are you an absolutist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 03/15/2009
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