Most Immigrants In Detention Did Not Have Criminal Record, Reports AP

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MICHELLE ROBERTS | March 15, 2009 11:13 PM EST | AP

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This photo released by Lauren Rivera shows Sarjina Emy in an April 2006 photo. Emy, a 20-year-old former honors student, spent nearly two years in a Florida lockup, because her parents' asylum claim was denied when she was a child. (AP Photo/Lauren Rivera)

America's detention system for immigrants has mushroomed in the last decade, a costly building boom that was supposed to sweep up criminals and ensure that undocumented immigrants were quickly shown the door.

Instead, an Associated Press computer analysis of every person being held on a recent Sunday night shows that most did not have a criminal record and many were not about to leave the country _ voluntarily or via deportation.

An official Immigration and Customs Enforcement database, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, showed a U.S. detainee population of exactly 32,000 on the evening of Jan. 25.

The data show that 18,690 immigrants had no criminal conviction, not even for illegal entry or low-level crimes like trespassing. More than 400 of those with no criminal record had been incarcerated for at least a year. A dozen had been held for three years or more; one man from China had been locked up for more than five years.

Nearly 10,000 had been in custody longer than 31 days _ the average detention stay that ICE cites as evidence of its effective detention management.

Especially tough bail conditions are exacerbated by disregard or bending of the rules regarding how long immigrants can be detained.

Based on a 2001 ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court, ICE has about six months to deport or release immigrants after their case is decided. But immigration lawyers say that deadline is routinely missed. In the system snapshot provided to the AP, 950 people were in that category.

The detainee buildup began in the mid 1990s, long before the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Since 2003, though, Congress has doubled to $1.7 billion the amount dedicated to imprisoning immigrants, as furor over "criminal aliens" intertwined with post-9/11 fears and anti-immigrant political rhetoric.

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But the dragnet has come to include not only terrorism suspects and cop killers, but an honors student who was raised in Orlando, Fla.; a convenience store clerk who begged to go back to Canada; and a Pentecostal minister who was forcibly drugged by ICE agents after he asked to contact his wife, according to court records.

Immigration lawyers note that substantial numbers of detainees, from 177 countries in the data provided, are not illegal immigrants at all. Many of the longest-term non-criminal detainees are asylum seekers fighting to stay here because they fear being killed in their home country. Others are longtime residents who may be eligible to stay under other criteria, or whose applications for permanent residency were lost or mishandled, the lawyers say.

Still other long-term detainees include people who can't be deported because their home country won't accept them or people who seemingly have been forgotten in the behemoth system, where 58 percent have no lawyers or anyone else advocating on their behalf.

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ICE says detention is the best way to guarantee that immigrants attend court hearings and leave the country when ordered.

"It's ensuring compliance, and if you look at the stats, for folks who are in detention, the stats are pretty darn high," said ICE spokeswoman Cori Bassett.

By comparison though, most criminal suspects, even sometimes those accused of heinous offenses, are entitled to bail.

For detainees, ICE agents make an initial determination whether someone is eligible for bond. Federal law says most criminals, some asylum seekers, arriving immigrants who have problems with their documentation and those recently ordered removed from the country must remain in detention.

"We're immigrants, and it makes it seem like it's worse than a criminal," said Sarjina Emy, a 20-year-old former honors student who spent nearly two years in a Florida lockup because her parents' asylum claim was denied when she was a child. "I always thought America does so much for justice. I really thought you get a fair trial. You actually go to court. (U.S. authorities) know what they are doing. Now, I figured out that it only works for criminal citizens."

Some advocates and lawyers complain that ICE often stretches the definition of non-bondable categories to keep immigrants in custody. Immigrants can appeal adverse determinations, but while their claim works through the court system, they remain jailed.

For example, Zoubir Bouchikhi, an Algerian imam who has lived legally in the United States for 11 years, said by phone from a Houston detention center that he was placed in custody early this year and classified as "an arriving alien," making him ineligible for bail. A homeowner with several U.S.-born children, Bouchikhi said he last entered the United States in 2006, on a legal visa.

The use of detention to ensure immigrants show up for immigration court comes at a high cost compared to alternatives like electronic ankle monitoring, which can track people for considerably less money per day.

Based on the amount budgeted for this fiscal year, U.S. taxpayers will pay about $141 a night _ the equivalent of a decent hotel room _ for each immigrant detained, even though paroling them on ankle monitors _ at a budgeted average daily cost of $13 _ has an almost perfect compliance rate, according to ICE's own stats.

Critics argue that since the immigration court system lacks the constitutional protections granted accused murderers and rapists, taxpayers are grossly overspending for a system that is inhumane and unfair.

"This is not an economically rational way of ensuring people show up, and it doesn't further justice," said Judy Rabinovitz of the American Civil Liberties Union's Immigrants Rights Project.

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For years, ICE and its predecessor, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, had the power to detain immigrants. With little bed space or public clamor to lock people up, though, millions of foreigners quietly went about life in the United States.

In 1996, Congress passed a pair of laws requiring that immigrants who committed crimes be locked up for deportation, beginning a dramatic run-up in incarcerations. So-called "criminal aliens" _ immigrants convicted of a crime, including some misdemeanors like low-level drug crimes _ became mandatory detainees even if their original crime brought no prison time.

A system that housed 6,785 immigrants in 1994 now holds nearly five times that amount in 260 facilities across the country, most under contract with local governments or private companies. For this fiscal year, ICE has enough money budgeted for 33,400 people on any given night.

Groups that advocate limits on immigration see no problem with the growing use of incarceration, which they say is a deterrent.

"Just because you haven't committed a crime doesn't mean that you shouldn't be held in detention until you can be deported," said Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform. Even though not every illegal immigrant can be held, "if you bust a certain amount, it sends a message."

The message hasn't resonated with Emy, who was raised in Orlando, Fla., but spent 20 months in a detention center even though she had no criminal record. She traded her Baby Phat clothes for a gray uniform and window-shopping at the mall for a law library behind razor wire.

Her only crime? Her parents, who feared her father's political affiliations endangered the family, brought her and two brothers to the United States from Bangladesh when she was 5, according to court documents.

She doesn't speak Bangla and never imagined a future without college. No one in her family realized her father's work certificate from the Labor Department didn't equate to legal immigration status.

Family members were rounded up in July 2007, treated as fugitives on a dated but active deportation order.

Her parents were deported first. Emy languished in custody while continuing her fight to stay.

But because the asylum application had been filed on behalf of the entire family, only the parents got a hearing. Emy never saw a judge, according to Emy and her attorney.

"Justice is not being served," she said from a prison pay phone.

In January, a federal appeals court denied her petition to stay in the U.S. Fearing she'd celebrate another birthday behind bars, Emy agreed to be deported and left the country Feb. 18.

Immigration law "is the only United States law where we punish the children for the actions of their parents," said Emy's attorney, Petia Vimitrova Knowles.

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Immigration violations are considered civil, something akin to a moving violation in a car, so the government can imprison immigrants without many of the rights criminals receive: No court-appointed attorney for indigent defendants, no standard habeas corpus, no protection from double jeopardy, no guarantee of a speedy trial.

"You're locking up people without even a hearing," said Rabinovitz. "That, to me, is the outrage: basic due process. Since when do we allow the government to lock up people without even giving them a bond hearing?"

Most immigrants are navigating a complex legal system without an attorney. Fifty-eight percent went through immigration proceedings without an attorney in fiscal year 2007, according to the Executive Office for Immigration Review, a branch of the U.S. Justice Department.

Those who do have an attorney have little recourse if that lawyer turns out to be incompetent. In one of his last acts as Bush administration attorney general, Michael Mukasey reversed years of precedent by ruling that immigrants, unlike criminal defendants, cannot appeal on the grounds of incompetent counsel.

The Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan think tank that includes former officials from Republican and Democratic administrations, recently issued a study calling for numerous changes in the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees ICE, including allowing better access to legal counsel for incarcerated immigrants.

"People can be lost in that vortex, and they can be lost for years," said Donald Kerwin, who wrote the report with former INS Director Doris Meissner. "It's the reason why legal counsel is so crucial."

But, ICE officials often argue, immigrants largely hold the keys to their own freedom. If they simply agree to return to their home country, they can go, Bassett said.

"They're making a choice (that) they're going to appeal, which is their right," she said.

But even giving up, or winning a claim, doesn't always spell freedom because ICE acts as police officer, arraignment judge, jailer and prosecutor. It has sole jurisdiction over when a detained immigrant is sent back after a deportation order is issued, and can continue to hold immigrants while it appeals a decision that didn't go its way.

In 2007, an immigration judge ruled that Samuel Kambo, a former energy minister of Sierra Leone who had a master's degree and no criminal history, should be granted permanent residency after being detained for eight months. But ICE continued to hold him for four more months while it appealed. Kambo was released only after his lawyer went to federal court and made a successful constitutional challenge.

In another telling case, Ahmad Al-Shrmany, a 34-year-old Iraqi with no appeal pending, begged for a year to be deported and yet remained in detention. He wanted to be allowed to go to his native Iraq or his adopted Canada, where he had been granted asylum a decade ago. A lawyer filed a habeas corpus petition in December that went unanswered.

"Just deport me. That's your job," he said in a late January interview with the AP that ICE officials tried to block minutes before it was scheduled at a Houston lockup.

Less than a week after the interview, Al-Shrmany was deported to Canada, said his lawyer, Afreen Ahmed. Bassett said later the timing of the deportation was "completely coincidental."

In custody, Al-Shrmany had grown distraught.

"In Iraq, you can get killed one time. Here, this is not the life I was wishing for," he said from a cinderblock meeting room.

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Immigrant advocates say ICE prefers incarceration for non-criminal immigrants, even though alternatives are available, for one major reason: to strong-arm people.

"When you're there for weeks and weeks or months or months, your determination to fight your charges is reduced," said Judy Green, a policy analyst with Justice Strategies, a nonpartisan think tank on incarceration issues. The goal is "to keep intense pressure on detainees to agree to removal and not to fight on whatever grounds they have for relief."

The Rev. Raymond Soeoth, a Pentecostal minister from Indonesia who had never been imprisoned, said his lengthy incarceration _ and the uncertainty of how long it would last _ wore on him as he fought his immigration case and pursued a lawsuit accusing ICE officials of forcibly drugging him and other detainees.

"We just wait. We cannot do anything," said Soeoth, who was released after more than two years, given a special visa as part of the government's settlement of the drugging lawsuit.

ICE officials argue that immigrants won't show up to hearings, or leave when ordered out, unless they're imprisoned. About a third of released immigrants with no electronic monitoring failed to show up to immigration court proceedings in fiscal year 2007, according to the Executive Office of Immigration Review.

Bassett said the failure-to-appear rate for actual deportation jumps to 95 to 97 percent with no electronic monitoring, the main reason groups like FAIR push for more use of detention.

Still, electronic monitoring has proven effective. ICE's intensive supervision program _ which includes electronic monitoring, curfews and other probation-like provisions _ has a 99 percent appearance rate at immigration hearings and 95 percent at final order hearings, according to ICE's fact sheets. The agency says 94 percent of those allowed to remain on electronic monitoring after they've been ordered deported leave when their appeals are exhausted.

The Migration Policy Institute says the agency should use electronic monitors to replace detention of immigrants without criminal records or even those with only nonviolent records who don't pose a risk to the community.

"What you've done is you've eliminated any fear of flight. The whole rationale for detention is to keep people from absconding, and in rare cases, protect the public," Kerwin said. "Alternatives can allow you to use detention space more judiciously."

Currently, an average of 2,700 immigrants per day are on electronic monitoring in "alternative to detention" programs budgeted to accommodate 13,000 people this year.

Immigrant advocates complain the agency is using the monitors mostly to supervise people who previously would have been released on bond or on their own recognizance _ not to reduce the number of people incarcerated.

"They're not trying to reduce bed space. Their goal is to have everybody in some kind of custodial program," said Andrea Black, coordinator for the nonprofit Detention Watch Network.

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This article makes no sense, if people are overstaying their visas, or here illegally, they committed a crime DUH, so saying they no criminal record makes no sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 03/15/2009
- xriv I'm a Fan of xriv permalink

Get a definition of "crime" nonsense!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 03/15/2009

Crime is breaking the law, if you are overstaying, coming her illegally, its a crime you nincompoop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 03/15/2009
- CalverH I'm a Fan of CalverH 3 fans permalink

And the ones who are here LEGALLY?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 03/15/2009

Once again, overstaying isn't legal, learn 2 read.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 03/15/2009
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They are detained, not convicted, thus no criminal record. Innocent until proven guilty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 03/15/2009

They are convicted if they are here illegally, they don't deserve innocent until proven guilty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 03/15/2009
- SonnyBono I'm a Fan of SonnyBono 21 fans permalink

Bingo - give this man a cookie - you, Sir have hit the nail right on the head. If an illegal immigrant robs a liquor store, he has committed a SECOND crime - the first being here illegally in the first place. A simple concept that apologists for illegal immigrants don't seem to be able to grasp or perhaps they don't want to since this would seriously weaken their arguments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 AM on 03/16/2009
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The new growth industry in Arizona? Prisons. Spending on education . . 49th. Spending on prisons, #4.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 03/15/2009
- plages I'm a Fan of plages 18 fans permalink

GO AND SEE THE MOVIE "THE VISITOR!" The wrong people are in holding camps!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 03/15/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 71 fans permalink

People who enter any country ILLEGALLY are ILLEGAL ALIENS. We are spending BILLIONS to provide health care and an education to people who don't belong here. Not all ILLEGAL ALIENS are Hispanic. We need to deport all ILLEGAL ALIENS, no matter what country they come from, and heavily fine and jail those who hire ILLEGALS.

I’m going to be politically incorrect now. If people cross the border illegally they are now called undocumented. Then get a job with someone’s identity by stealing documents. It is ok because of economic problems in their country.

If a street drug dealer gets caught can he now claim he is not a drug dealer he is just an undocumented pharmacist. He then steals a pharmacist license. Is it ok because of economic problems in his country

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 03/15/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 67 fans permalink

Illegal immigration solved.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 03/15/2009
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LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 03/15/2009
- Mexitli I'm a Fan of Mexitli 10 fans permalink
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lol!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 03/15/2009
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Except for native Americans, the rest of us are all illegal aliens.

By the way, it is impossible to enter a country illegally. Before you enter a country, you are not subject to its laws. Once you're in the country, well, you're not entering, you're already there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 03/15/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 71 fans permalink

the Indians were resoundingly defeated..­.......we are a warring planet some people lose ........as did the Indians

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 03/15/2009
- SonnyBono I'm a Fan of SonnyBono 21 fans permalink

Not really - Americans of Mexican descent whose families lived in the Southwest prior to the Mexican War did not cross the US border, the US border came to them courtesy of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo - but this logic applies only to those already in the area.

"By the way, it is impossible to enter a country illegally. Before you enter a country, you are not subject to its laws. Once you're in the country, well, you're not entering, you're already there." - gee, you must have lawyer genes somewhere but you are wrong - at that split second that you cross the border, then you are entering illegally and breaking US laws - interesting concept but no cigar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 AM on 03/16/2009
- Keurgui I'm a Fan of Keurgui 6 fans permalink

you don't get it. this all immigration enforcement has one purpose; is to steal the taxpayer money. Prisons are making tons of money. immigration is not an issue in this country. Comparing a drug dealer to an undocumented shows how little you know about them. They are hard working and honorable people, doing the toughest job on earth with very little pay.
I bet u r not a native American.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 03/15/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 71 fans permalink

things do need to change....­.....fast track ejection needs to happen....­....catch and release needs to be reserved for fish not illegals..­.....most should be handled in less than a week.....b­ut no more than a month.....­...save all that money and create jobs too.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 03/15/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 71 fans permalink

eject all illegals that even touch the court system, police, fire department, hospital, or any other government office....­......the problem will thin

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 03/15/2009
- AKJM I'm a Fan of AKJM 18 fans permalink
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don't forget the voting booth

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 03/15/2009
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Illegals can't vote. I can't even vote as a Permanent Resident until I become a U.S. Citizen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 03/15/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 71 fans permalink

what about the voting booth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 03/15/2009
- royevatom I'm a Fan of royevatom 10 fans permalink

People have never recognized boundary lines only governments do. People will move from place to place regardless of lines and rules. It has always been that way and it always will. How can you have an effective government and equitable laws if you refuse to knowledge even the simplest most obvious facts about human nature. This is how you end up putting people in jail and this is how you end up keeping them in jail. Really is this our culture to jail people who's crime is wanting to come into this country. That is completely without regard to the fact that thousands enter the country every day simply by walking across the borders or by sea. I am sorry my government saw fit to keep you in jail; to deprive a person of their freedom and pursuit of happiness is in direct opposition to the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights of this nation that we so proudly hail to all, I guess it applies to some but not all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 03/15/2009
- Lyceum I'm a Fan of Lyceum 22 fans permalink

Within the past two or three weeks there was a widely published study about the fact that the United States imprisons more people than any other nation on earth.

We are living in a police state and the government, police, and military establishments now exist merely for self-perpetuation. In connection therewith, we now have the "prison industrial complex".

The "prison industrial complex" is an economic partnership between government and the private sector. Its sole goal is more money for its members.

These are scary times in the United States and no matter what Obama says about change, things are going to become worse, not better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 03/15/2009
- qdog112 I'm a Fan of qdog112 69 fans permalink
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Your observation is on point. Like healthcare, prison is a very profitable business.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 03/15/2009
- SonnyBono I'm a Fan of SonnyBono 21 fans permalink

We imprison more people because of the "War On Drugs" - Check the stats out on the number of people imprisoned for possession of drugs and not the amounts needed to qualify for resale.

The same routes and methods that are used to smuggle illegal immigrants are used for the drug trade.

You want to cut down the prison population - legalize marijuana and tax it just like cigarettes and alcohol. I will bet any amount of money that weed has killed far fewer people than either cigarettes or alcohol. And here you thought that Bill Maher was the only one advocating the legalization of marijuana.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 03/16/2009
- Keurgui I'm a Fan of Keurgui 6 fans permalink

Illegal??? we are talking about human beings with kids, wife, family. we are not talking about rats or dogs (even dogs seem to have more right than the undocumented people now). They deserve to be treating with respect and dignity. they are not endangering our lives.
this is shameful to detain a 20 years old kid. we really need to address this problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 03/15/2009
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If you are willing to break the law you sacrificing your rights and respect, that simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 03/15/2009
- qdog112 I'm a Fan of qdog112 69 fans permalink
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Do you want to send El Rustbo to jail for his drug issue?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 03/15/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 67 fans permalink

Illegal immigration solved.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 03/15/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 71 fans permalink

they are still here illegally.­.........s­end the illegals home......­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 03/15/2009
- Quaoar I'm a Fan of Quaoar 31 fans permalink
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Perhaps "Trespassers" is a better term if you don't like illegal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 03/15/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 71 fans permalink

how about invaders..­....gee they still are illegals

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 03/15/2009
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For all those posters, who are advocating to "send them back", did you read the whole (lengthy) article? These people are being detained in limbo on our dime. They can't go anywhere until they have their hearing. If we can process them quickly enough we can "send them back". But until then, we are spending a heck of a lot of $$ just to keep them around. They can't leave even if they wanted to.

The only beneficiary of this system is the detention centers. You'd think for the $147 per person per day to keep each person we could just hire more judges to hear their cases. Just think if one judge could hear 5 cases per day. The whole thing stinks.

So how about it? $13 leg bracelets. And while we're at it, how about giving them have a temp status so they can keep jobs to pay rent and taxes while they're waiting for their hearing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 03/15/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 71 fans permalink

time to fast track them......­......then send them home

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 03/15/2009
- AKJM I'm a Fan of AKJM 18 fans permalink
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Segments of America suffer double digit unemployment and you want to allow illegal immigrants to hold jobs.
I agree with you that detention is costly. So, load the on a train like Ike did and send them back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 03/15/2009
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Very simple solution to illegal immigration.

Fine every employer who hires an illegal alien $10,000 for the first offense $20,000 for the second and so on.
This would eliminate the market for illegal labor, thus eliminating the problem.

If you want to get rid of birds, get rid of the bird feeder.

As long as the demand is there they will keep coming no matter what we do at the border.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 03/15/2009

You wrote this long article for nothing.

Why are these immigrants in detention??

Private prison companies

Making Billions thanks to the Shrub Administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 03/15/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 67 fans permalink

America hasn't been "the land of the free and the home of the brave." for a long time now.
More like "the land of the restrained and the home of the frightened­."
This is just one more example of the frightened paranoid country that a once great and world leader has sunk to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 03/15/2009
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Hopefully, with President Obama, some of that can be reversed. I'm hopeful...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 03/15/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 67 fans permalink

I so hope you're right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 03/15/2009
- wdw505 I'm a Fan of wdw505 71 fans permalink

how do you think mrbo will create jobs......­....send them home.....j­obs are created

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 03/15/2009
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I just want to say something as a legal immigrant to this country...

I am thankful for the fact that I am here in the U.S. (thanks to my lovely wife) and for the fact that I have way more opportunities in this country than I ever had in Canada. I was a Computer Analyst/Programmer when I came here, but I decided instead to become a secondary Social Science teacher because of my love of U.S. history. Ever since I took a U.S. history course in Grade 10 (in Canada), I have had a fascination for this nation's past. One more year to go before graduation! :)

As far as this Canadian is concerned, the United States is the best place to be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 03/15/2009

You haven't traveled much :P

The country does pay well though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 03/15/2009
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I have been to Europe, all over Canada, and most of the US before I even came here permanently.

After I came here I got a part-time job working for a school district teaching ESL/U.S. Citizenship to adult immigrants. LOL An immigrant teaching an immigrant. How ironic... They could not even find an American that could teach U.S. Citizenship. This is where I caught the "teaching bug." :)

So now I am on my way to becoming a teacher - one of the best ways to serve the country IMHO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 03/15/2009
- qdog112 I'm a Fan of qdog112 69 fans permalink
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As a history major, I hope you realize that much of the true "American History" is omitted and much of what is written is seriously tainted.

There is a lot of good, but just as much bad - starting with "discovering" an inhabited land and acquiring free labor to build it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 03/15/2009
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I am well aware of that. As a result, I will not be teaching the politically-correct version of history when I am able to do so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 03/15/2009
- JerseyBob I'm a Fan of JerseyBob 4 fans permalink
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Just a few hours ago I attended a talk by Colman McCarthy, Founder and Director of the Center for Teaching Peace. He came up from DC area to Frederick,Md. Being from Jersey, I call this the hinterland, But its home now. Recently, jackboot state police (hey, most of these guys are ok) were caught profiling and surveiling Maryland peace organizations -as suspected terrorist organizations. Don't doubt for a moment federal dollars were involved.

I can quote from Colman's writing. Rather, I would offer this: I have it that my grandfather came into America across the Canadian border -no papers. I love my grandfather. I love our brothers and sisters who are treated so despicably today by government bureaucrats. They don't have the vote and they don't have a voice -unless we speak for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 03/15/2009

I have a really simple, albeit somewhat costly solution to solve this illegal immigration problem.

If you catch an illegal immigrant, lock them up until such time as you can book a surgical procedure.

Implant a GPS tracking device into them that cannot be easily removed, and send them back where they came.

That way there, anytime they try to come BACK illegally, it is easy to just launch the computer and find exactly where they are, go tranquilize them like we do with a ra.bid animal, toss them in the back of a van, and send them home again.

Heck, maybe we can even set it up so it sets off an alarm as they near the border so the Border Patrol Agents have an easier time getting them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 03/15/2009

you are swinging from the far right, not the center.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 03/15/2009

Oh har har har, I've never heard that one before.

Here's a free education for you, Mr. Captain of the Short Bus All Stars:

Center means "on balance, I'm center"

I'm right on some things
I'm left on others.

Center when it's all said and told. Illegal immigration happens to be one of those things I have ZERO sympathy on. I'm an immigrant. You know how I got here? LEGALLY. I went through the process. I earned the RIGHT to be here. Some guy who walks across the border without respecting the laws of the country he's going to doesn't have that right. Treat him like an animal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 03/15/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 67 fans permalink

Can you make this retro-active? Say put GPS locator's on all offspring of people that arrived on the Mayflower, that would have looked after nixon?
I refer you to this.
http://www.zshare.net/image/57103617a34a71ff/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 03/15/2009
- Vickster I'm a Fan of Vickster 15 fans permalink
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But then there would be no "Dog Whisperer".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 03/15/2009
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