Medicare Advantage Sellers Trick Elderly Into Giving Up Benefits

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First Posted: 03-16-09 03:26 PM   |   Updated: 04-16-09 05:12 AM

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Curtis Smith is retired, but his body doesn't know it yet. The 72-year-old's eyes still pop open at five a.m. every morning, just as they did for decades. With no job to go to, he lays there.

"You're in the bed; you can't rest. You just lay there. And when it's time for me to go to work I get up and wander around like somebody lost, wanting to go," he says.

The rest of the day is just as empty. "Man, it's miserable," he says. "Television. Walk from room to room. It's too dangerous in Washington to do much walking around, especially old people. You walk around the street--you may come back, you may not. You know how this District is," says the longtime resident of Anacostia, a neighborhood south of the river in Washington, D.C.

The tedium was broken one morning this summer when a young woman knocked on his door. His wife told him not to answer. Nothing good could come from it.

"Most time she's right, I have to give her credit," he says. "If I'd have listened to what she said, I wouldn't be in the predicament I'm in now."

The next time Smith went to his pharmacy, he was told he was no longer covered. When he went to Howard University Hospital for a colon cancer procedure, he was told the same thing. His wife sent him to the local Legal Aid Society of the District of Columbia.

The woman who'd knocked was a sales rep from EverCare ("We care about healthcare"), a company that sells Medicare Advantage plans, which are privately run and can be more expansive - with vision and dental coverage - but have a smaller network of providers that participate. In practice, the extra vision and dental coverage is often of negligible benefit and doesn't outweigh what's lost by leaving traditional Medicare - but it looks good at first.

The sales rep told him her plan would be cheaper and would provide vision coverage, something Smith, whose eyes are deteriorating, had wanted. "She told me to sign it. It was a piece of paper just like one of these right here," says Smith, who can't read well. "A big piece of paper. And she had read me something about the benefits being better and cheaper and I signed it." (An EverCare spokesman said he couldn't comment on any specific case.)

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Medicare Advantage plans have long been targeted by Democrats, who argue that deceptive marketing practices trick patients into shoddy coverage that the government overpays for. The insurers don't explain what the holes in the benefits are or that they may no longer be able to go to their same doctor, pharmacy or hospital. But with Bush in the White House, the plans were safe.

On average, the government pays about 14 percent more for a Medicare Advantage plan than a regular Medicare plan. Obama hopes to wring billions in savings by reducing that premium. He'll then reinvest the savings - an estimated $177 billion over ten years -- in his push for universal healthcare. The plans cover some 11 million patients. The news that the profitable plans were under fire sent health insurance stocks tumbling.

On Tuesday, Office of Management and Budget chief Peter Orszag told a gathering of AHIP (the lobby for America's Health Insurance Plans) that the administration was set on cutting the program. "It won't be popular," Orszag told the insurers. And indeed it wasn't. A low level murmur and discontented rustling interrupted the otherwise polite meeting.

"Good thing there aren't tomatoes on the table," said an attendee sitting next to the Huffington Post.

But Orszag, who's leading Obama's healthcare reform effort, didn't back down. "Evidence suggests that each dollar provided under Medicare Advantage costs the government a dollar thirty in costs," he said. "I believe in competition. I don't believe in paying a dollar thirty to get a dollar."

Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for AHIP, said that Obama's cuts will mean less coverage for seniors. "We commend the president for prioritizing healthcare reform and for setting aside the resources that are needed. Unfortunately, the budget proposal would rely on seniors and Medicare Advantage to fund a disproportionate share of those costs," he said. "We believe that the entire Medicare program, including Medicare Advantage, needs to be looked at in the context of comprehensive healthcare reform."

The administration is not calling for an end to the plans, but rather that they be required to bid for the premium instead of simply being handed it. Reducing the premium could also reduce the fraud. Take the example of Curtis Smith: an elderly patient on a fixed income getting cancer treatments isn't any insurers idea of an ideal customer. But agents who sign patients up are generally paid a commission up front, so there's little incentive for them to do a longterm cost-benefit analysis. Once companies start doing that calculation under the new, reduced premium, tricking sick, old people into signing away their Medicare plan will be less profitable.

Instead, they'll likely do more of what Bill Vaughan found in February in Pinellas County, Florida. Vaughan, a former healthcare staffer with Rep. Pete Stark (D-Calif.) who's now with the Consumers Union, was on vacation and undertook a personal project. He noticed that Medicare Advantage companies were scheduling a number of meetings throughout the county in disproportionately wealthy and predominantly white areas. Unlike individual agents, the companies themselves have an incentive to sign up wealthier patients, who tend to be healthier on average.

Vaughan analyzed 70 meetings and found only six were in a census tract with a below average percentage of whites or above average percentage of African Americans. Twenty-five of the 70 were in areas with a below-average income. Vaughan called it "a classic case of skimming or seeking out healthier than average people."

"Medicare Advantage plans go out of their way to target patients with chronic conditions," countered Zerkelbach.

It was a moot point for Smith; he didn't stay on EverCare's rolls for long. Smith had two things most victims of such policy-switches don't: access to free legal help in his neighborhood and a wife smart enough to tell him to use it. His attorney at Legal Aid, Jennifer Hatton, pressed the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) to rescind his enrollment in the Medicare Advantage plan, arguing that it was done fraudulently and was therefore illegitimate. CMS has long battled with shady marketing practices employed by Medicare Advantage companies. The agency has increasingly tightened what they're legally allowed to do, but policing against all situations like Smith's is a practical impossibility.

In late February, CMS apparently agreed that Smith had been enrolled under illegitimate circumstances. (The agency didn't return a call for comment.) CMS, as a result, agreed to retroactively disenroll him from EverCare and re-enroll him in traditional Medicare.

Arthur Delaney contributed reporting to this story.

Curtis Smith is retired, but his body doesn't know it yet. The 72-year-old's eyes still pop open at five a.m. every morning, just as they did for decades. With no job to go to, he lays there. "You're...
Curtis Smith is retired, but his body doesn't know it yet. The 72-year-old's eyes still pop open at five a.m. every morning, just as they did for decades. With no job to go to, he lays there. "You're...
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- Ranta I'm a Fan of Ranta 26 fans permalink
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/

We don't need to reinvent the wheel. Take a look at health care around the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 03/25/2009
- mabelle55 I'm a Fan of mabelle55 2 fans permalink

But agents who sign patients up are generally paid a commission up front, so there's little incentive for them to do a longterm cost-benefit analysis. Once companies start doing that calculation under the new, reduced premium, tricking sick, old people into signing away their Medicare plan will be less profitable.

,,, He noticed that Medicare Advantage companies were scheduling a number of meetings throughout the county in disproportionately wealthy and predominantly white areas.

You know, this kind of article makes my blood boil: it is filled with generalities (like the examples above). It is outright fear-mongering in service to a particular ideology and doesn't even comport with CBPP statistics and its report to Congress.

MA Plans are growing because they offer services and coverage that FSS Medicare doesn't offer: eye- care, dental care, for example -- two areas that a majority of older people need more than people in their 20s, 30s or 40s; many have significantly lower copays for prescription drugs than FSS Medicare and offer lower monthly prescription drug premiums than FSS Medicare.

Although I can certainly see how lowering a prescription bill by, oh, $1,200/year, or paying $15/doctor visit as opposed to $120 is so much less important than carrying the flag for a particular ideology.

I favor reforming health care, too, but doing it via the simplistic "MA Plans Are Bad And FSS Medicare Is Good" politically is an insult to the debate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 03/20/2009
- Ranta I'm a Fan of Ranta 26 fans permalink
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You don't get something for nothing. Those who enroll in advantage plans are lucky to find home health agencies that will take their cases anymore. Home health is supposed to help keep people out of hospitals or nursing home skilled care units. It also saves money . Medicare coverage is great , Advantage not so great.
Most people who find this out are a victim of the system. Switching back to Medicare can only be done in November.
Another ploy engaged in by the Advantage plans is to portray themselves as a supplemental plan to traditional Medicare. The "victims" are indeed surprised when all the Advantage plan paperwork starts showing up in their mail boxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 03/25/2009

My mother was approached by an HMO company seeking her to decline coverage with Medicare/Medicaid and sign up with them. She asked me to contact the HMO agent to go over the facts of the plan. The HMO representative stated my mother would have vision care, I replied that OK I pay for my mother's glasses, then she asserted the HMO would cover more of her diabetic costs that Medicare did not. Then I asked what hospitals would my mother be accepted by and she stated one Christ Hospital at that point I told the HMO representative no this is not a good plan. But what if my mother did not ask me to negotiate with the bait and switch efforts of the HMO plan what then for my mother?
This single experience is evidence that private insurers are purely for-profit and could care less about the individual -- no morality at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 03/17/2009
- mabelle55 I'm a Fan of mabelle55 2 fans permalink

The company didn't "bait and switch" you/your mom. They offered better coverage for her diabetes, offered vision care, by your own words! Just because they only had one hospital they would pay for doesn't make them a "bait and switch." All it means is that they didn't have a list of hospitals they had agreements with -- and you decided this wasn't in your mother's best interest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 03/21/2009
- Ranta I'm a Fan of Ranta 26 fans permalink
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Anyone who has Medicare and Medicaid has full coverage. Anything not paid by Medicare is covered by Medicaid.
The total amount of money spent on a persons health care in the last six months of their life is equal to all that was spent up until that time. Advantage plans pay for little things up front but head for the hills when expensive or long term care is needed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 03/25/2009
- Grammy3 I'm a Fan of Grammy3 50 fans permalink

This is just as true of health insurance providers:

"Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nast iest of men for the n astiest of motives will somehow work for the benefit of all." - John Maynard Keynes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 03/17/2009
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Health care insurers are bigger crooks than AIG. They should be forced to close their doors NOW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 03/17/2009
- hey0there I'm a Fan of hey0there 4 fans permalink

yet as i type this i am surrounded by Medical Advantage scam ads.
Why bash them if you have no problem promoting them hffpo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 03/17/2009

Ah yes, but how does Medicare serve one who travels outside the US frequently? The Advantage covers people outside of the country, doesn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 03/17/2009
- Nutcase I'm a Fan of Nutcase 48 fans permalink
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Our government has agreements for coverage with most, if not all, of those countries with a national health program.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 03/17/2009
- Ranta I'm a Fan of Ranta 26 fans permalink
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Yes, as an example, excellent free care is available in Costa Rica.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 03/25/2009
- mabelle55 I'm a Fan of mabelle55 2 fans permalink

Yes, MA Plans cover people who travel outside the country. The specifics vary by company, but they are fairly complimentary to each other. Because they provide Medicare (U.S. government) coverage, they are required by law to provide a certain minimum level of coverage for U.S. citizens traveling abroad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 03/21/2009
- hollyo I'm a Fan of hollyo 2 fans permalink

Get insurance companies out of healthcare. It should NOT BE FOR PROFIT!!!!!
Universal single payer...amen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 03/17/2009

As a pharmacist I get a kick out of most of you because you are the same people I see everyday who actually know nothing about insurance in general and specifically the actual policy you have. If the company you work for has outlets in many states there is a very good possibly that you don’t have “insurance” at all. What you are covered by is an employer self funded ERISA Trust. The “insurer” (Aetna, first health, UNH etc) is simply the administrator of the plan. It is YOUR EMPLOYER who actually determines what the plan will or will not pay for. Look at your plan documents. At the back if you see several pages pertaining to ERISA Trust guess what? Your anger should be directed at YOUR EMPLOYER. ERISA Trust are by statute exempt from all state insurance mandates making it the type of plan that large companies go for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 03/17/2009
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49 million or so Americans have no health insurance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 03/19/2009
- mabelle55 I'm a Fan of mabelle55 2 fans permalink

Thanks for your comment, DrugDoc! I think it is true -- most people have no idea what their health plan says, what it can/can't cover, etc. And I get really irked with folks on both the left and the right, because most of them haven't one idea about how Medicare works, the difference between a PPO, an HMO, or a FFS provider, formularies, etc., etc. Yet THESE folks are the ones trying to "educate" on health care reform. (LOL)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 03/21/2009

Your Universal Systems are not as cost effective as you think. Here are some interesting facts from CMS :

----per CMS, Medicare covers about 44 million Americans and spends just over 450 Billion dollars a year. For those of you that are math challenged that is over 10K per head per year.
----About 14% of the population is covered by Medicare
----Per CMS, Medicare covers about 52% of the average person’s yearly healthcare cost.
----The average premium for a supplemental Medicare policy is $253 dollars per month.
----Medicare is not free and has copays just like any other healthcare plan. It is a managed care plan with a REQUIRED medical management review during inpatient care and formulary management of every Medicare-D plan in existence.
----Bottom line is that in this country’s already existing universal system, 10K per year in expenditure will get you coverage of 52% of your healthcare needs. That is much worse than what most people already have. That is what YOU will be sacrificing for the Universal System you beg for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 03/17/2009
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DrugDoc54, how does your arguments affect the 49 million or so who have no health insurance?

What most people already have are you referring to?

The 49 million?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 03/19/2009

About the WHO Study:

WHO admitted that since it is virtually impossible to get an accurate figure out of an entire socialized system, many of the figures they cited were extrapolated by them and not actually reflective of data submitted by the referenced country.
WHO also admitted that they did NOT apply their metrics consistently from country to country. For example, at the time of the study, the highly touted French System had no mechanism in effect for Long Term Care or Assisted Living so those cost are not reflective in the cost for France. In fact most of the countries did not account for LTC or assisted living. France now has a LTC provision and it caps cost at $1600 per month per patient, little more than warehousing. The US figures, however are reflective of the inclusion of both LTC & assisted living.
WHO made no attempt to account for the difference in MD wages between the various countries and how it can skew the figures. Average per year salary for a primary care MD in France is 55K per year, Germany is 60K per year, Italy and Spain are 42K per year and the US is 135K per year. Talk about a massive brain drain. Remember, MD’s are smart enough to be anything they want….I doubt very many would stay in medicine if their pay were dropped to 60K.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 03/17/2009
- edwcorey I'm a Fan of edwcorey 18 fans permalink

Face it: The U.S. is a crook society. It was founded by crooks, outcasts, exiles, escapees, deportees; based on slavery; and expanded by genocide. It's America's heritage. During the War of 1812 (according to a book I'm reading of the same name), Americans wanted a war with Great Britain over trade--but wanted to keep trading with Great Britain while the war was still going on. A quote:

"British officers were shocked at the eagerness with which Americans pursued their own interest at the expense of the nation's. 'Self, the great ruling principle,' said one, 'is more powerful with Yankees than any people I ever saw.'"

Of course, when you consider the government's waste, self-interest, corruption, incompetence and favoritism, you do have to look out for yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 03/17/2009
- billbb I'm a Fan of billbb 47 fans permalink

You are confusing us with Australia.

Government waste is not exactly a U.S. invention. Does it surprise anyone that enemy officers (at that time!) would have a low opinion of their enemies? We were beating the snot out of them - again. Not exactly a morale boost, is it. And the Brits sent here were not the top officers because those officers were busy fighting the French. If you are going to use history as an example, context helps a bit, doesn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 03/17/2009
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 204 fans permalink
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The answer: Single Payer Universal Health Care

Private insurers have an unavoidable conflict of interest as this story indicates. They are more concerned with the bottom line and less concerned with the health of the individual. Take them out of the equation. Ultimately, that's where we're headed, anyway. Just as in Europe and Canada. We are behind the times with our current system. It costs us so much more and we get so much less. Now that doesn't sound very efficient to me. Capitalism works beautifully when producing goods and services, but when it involves health care, it gets ugly. it's too costly and inefficient.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 03/17/2009

These plans are expensive and almost useless if you are looking for the most affordable option. First the Medicare recipient paus $96.00 per month for Medicare (not bad for what you get). Therefore Medicare is not a "free" government program. Then on top of the $96 per month he/she must pay for the Medicare Advantage program which frequently offers little more than what Medicare only would cover. There are high co-pays, high deductables, you know the drill.

Aarp (a usually reliable source) offers one through United Health Care; the Company Andrew Cuomo outed a few months ago. It is very expensive, covers very little, and you must have a separate drug policy which is also pricey and, in reality, covers nothing but generics without huge co-pays I say all this to say - bring on National Health Care that is affordable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 03/17/2009
- mabelle55 I'm a Fan of mabelle55 2 fans permalink

No, no, no, no. You are wrong about this.

Medicare beneficiaries pay $96.40 each month, no matter which Medicare program they choose, which means they can stay in FFS Medicare OR choose MA Plans. Yes, SOME (a handful) of MA Plans have an additional deductible (for either Rx coverage or health insurance coverage), but these are top of the line, cream-of-the-crop plans that ALSO offer much-reduced copays for Rx drugs and (normally) very low doctor copays ($15/office visit). These also cover a higher percentage of Part B costs than FSS Medicare.

AND, in addition to the $96.40/month, FSS (traditional) Medicare beneficiaries generally have to pay an additional monthly Rx premium (starting at $45) to cover Rx drugs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 03/20/2009
- PennLawyer I'm a Fan of PennLawyer 22 fans permalink

There's a very simple rule which applies across the board, whether it be to medical care or Blackwell mercenaries. Anytime you privatize a service, you have to add in a level of profit for the corporatio­n/sharehol­ders. How does industry wring that profit out of the system? By reducing the level of service or product provided, and reducing the pay of people who work to provide the service or product.
In Pennsylvania, state centers for the mentally retarded were demonized by the private care industry, eventually closed down and replaced with "non-profit" "group homes". "Non-profit" means the outfits are privately owned so there are no stock dividends paid out. But there are huge profits going to the owners, and exorbitant salaries to the top administrators. "Group homes" are not warm and fuzzy, mom-and-pop small businesses. They are hundreds of single family houses, usually in very poor, high-crime neighborhoods, or in very remote small villages/towns with no decent medical care/hospitals in the area - the kinds of places where the neighbors aren't sophisticated enough to mount not-in-our­-neighborh­ood campaigns. These houses are owned by large, sometimes nationwide companies. They save money by serving the cheapest food possible, and paying minimum wages to untrained people who couldn't get hired at MacDonalds. Yes, they're supposed to get minimal training, but only 10 percent of the "homes" are checked per year (sometimes the same 10 % every year) and the turnover is 200% per year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 03/17/2009
- PennLawyer I'm a Fan of PennLawyer 22 fans permalink

I looked into these plans carefully for my elderly mother who had medicare plus a minimal Blue Cross/Blue Shield plan which included NO pharamaceutical coverage. What I learned was that the Medicare "Advantage" provider could change the list of covered drugs as frequently and as often as they wished, buy my mom would be locked into a program for a year at a time. In other words, if she needed drugs A, B and C, which would be covered on the plan she enrolled in, the provider could delete one or all of those drugs from covered drugs the month after she enrolled, and she would be stuck paying the premiums for a full year PLUS having to pay in full for her Rxs. The same goes for which doctors were on the approved list. I was not in the least surprised at these inequities, because the governing legislation was written by the insurance industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 03/17/2009
- mabelle55 I'm a Fan of mabelle55 2 fans permalink

Changing the drugs covered has nothing to do with MA Plans Rx coverage. FSS Medicare Rx plans also have this option -- this is and has been standard health insurance language for years, even in individual and group private plans.

The other point is that it pays to do research on the MA Plans, just as you would on other insurance plans, because Rx plans are numerous and differ in cost, drugs covered, whether pre-approval is required.

Additionally, MA Plans also have variable types of plans, including HMO, PFFS, PPO. Yours is probably a PPO, which is why she can't see her *own* doctors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 03/20/2009

My wife was forced into Medicare Advantage by the Ohio School Employees Retirement System. She had NO choice, all SERS retirees had to join Medicare Advantage, or lose coverage. She had a choice of two
Plans, and she chose one administered by Aetna. I think it was a trick to name it MEDICARE Advantage,
as it is NOT Medicare. When you enroll in one of these plans you must give up your Medicare. She
previously had Aetna insurance plus Medicare, and Medicare was the primary payer. Now she is at the
mercy of only an insurance company. And we know that Aetna is being subsidized by the gov't. to the
tune of 14% over whatever it costs Aetna - what a waste. We believe that SERS sold out its retirees.
Our country needs a single payer health coverage for everyone. All the basics are in place with Medicare, which operates at low admin. costs. It should be done without insurance companies, which
in many cases, call the shots on treatments (not doctors). It would not be free, but would be affordable for all, with low income members receiving a subsidy on the premiums. It can be done, and the 14% subsidy could be used to help pay for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 03/17/2009
- PennLawyer I'm a Fan of PennLawyer 22 fans permalink

A lot of governors sold out their retired state employees this way on promises from the medicare advantage companies that the state would save money. I'm sad to say that Dem. Governor Ed Rendell was one of them. When the State employees' union found out about it and tried to meet with the governor about it, they were stonewalled and he wouldn't talk with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 03/17/2009
- Nutcase I'm a Fan of Nutcase 48 fans permalink
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Kickbacks?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 03/17/2009

And the ad directly above the comments section is touting Medicare Advantage Plans. WTF ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 03/17/2009
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