Medicare Advantage Sellers Trick Elderly Into Giving Up Benefits

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First Posted: 03-16-09 03:26 PM   |   Updated: 04-16-09 05:12 AM

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Curtis Smith is retired, but his body doesn't know it yet. The 72-year-old's eyes still pop open at five a.m. every morning, just as they did for decades. With no job to go to, he lays there.

"You're in the bed; you can't rest. You just lay there. And when it's time for me to go to work I get up and wander around like somebody lost, wanting to go," he says.

The rest of the day is just as empty. "Man, it's miserable," he says. "Television. Walk from room to room. It's too dangerous in Washington to do much walking around, especially old people. You walk around the street--you may come back, you may not. You know how this District is," says the longtime resident of Anacostia, a neighborhood south of the river in Washington, D.C.

The tedium was broken one morning this summer when a young woman knocked on his door. His wife told him not to answer. Nothing good could come from it.

"Most time she's right, I have to give her credit," he says. "If I'd have listened to what she said, I wouldn't be in the predicament I'm in now."

The next time Smith went to his pharmacy, he was told he was no longer covered. When he went to Howard University Hospital for a colon cancer procedure, he was told the same thing. His wife sent him to the local Legal Aid Society of the District of Columbia.

The woman who'd knocked was a sales rep from EverCare ("We care about healthcare"), a company that sells Medicare Advantage plans, which are privately run and can be more expansive - with vision and dental coverage - but have a smaller network of providers that participate. In practice, the extra vision and dental coverage is often of negligible benefit and doesn't outweigh what's lost by leaving traditional Medicare - but it looks good at first.

The sales rep told him her plan would be cheaper and would provide vision coverage, something Smith, whose eyes are deteriorating, had wanted. "She told me to sign it. It was a piece of paper just like one of these right here," says Smith, who can't read well. "A big piece of paper. And she had read me something about the benefits being better and cheaper and I signed it." (An EverCare spokesman said he couldn't comment on any specific case.)

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If you or someone in your family have been tricked into joining a Medicare Advantage plan, send your story to submissions+medicare@huffingtonpost.com.

Medicare Advantage plans have long been targeted by Democrats, who argue that deceptive marketing practices trick patients into shoddy coverage that the government overpays for. The insurers don't explain what the holes in the benefits are or that they may no longer be able to go to their same doctor, pharmacy or hospital. But with Bush in the White House, the plans were safe.

On average, the government pays about 14 percent more for a Medicare Advantage plan than a regular Medicare plan. Obama hopes to wring billions in savings by reducing that premium. He'll then reinvest the savings - an estimated $177 billion over ten years -- in his push for universal healthcare. The plans cover some 11 million patients. The news that the profitable plans were under fire sent health insurance stocks tumbling.

On Tuesday, Office of Management and Budget chief Peter Orszag told a gathering of AHIP (the lobby for America's Health Insurance Plans) that the administration was set on cutting the program. "It won't be popular," Orszag told the insurers. And indeed it wasn't. A low level murmur and discontented rustling interrupted the otherwise polite meeting.

"Good thing there aren't tomatoes on the table," said an attendee sitting next to the Huffington Post.

But Orszag, who's leading Obama's healthcare reform effort, didn't back down. "Evidence suggests that each dollar provided under Medicare Advantage costs the government a dollar thirty in costs," he said. "I believe in competition. I don't believe in paying a dollar thirty to get a dollar."

Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for AHIP, said that Obama's cuts will mean less coverage for seniors. "We commend the president for prioritizing healthcare reform and for setting aside the resources that are needed. Unfortunately, the budget proposal would rely on seniors and Medicare Advantage to fund a disproportionate share of those costs," he said. "We believe that the entire Medicare program, including Medicare Advantage, needs to be looked at in the context of comprehensive healthcare reform."

The administration is not calling for an end to the plans, but rather that they be required to bid for the premium instead of simply being handed it. Reducing the premium could also reduce the fraud. Take the example of Curtis Smith: an elderly patient on a fixed income getting cancer treatments isn't any insurers idea of an ideal customer. But agents who sign patients up are generally paid a commission up front, so there's little incentive for them to do a longterm cost-benefit analysis. Once companies start doing that calculation under the new, reduced premium, tricking sick, old people into signing away their Medicare plan will be less profitable.

Instead, they'll likely do more of what Bill Vaughan found in February in Pinellas County, Florida. Vaughan, a former healthcare staffer with Rep. Pete Stark (D-Calif.) who's now with the Consumers Union, was on vacation and undertook a personal project. He noticed that Medicare Advantage companies were scheduling a number of meetings throughout the county in disproportionately wealthy and predominantly white areas. Unlike individual agents, the companies themselves have an incentive to sign up wealthier patients, who tend to be healthier on average.

Vaughan analyzed 70 meetings and found only six were in a census tract with a below average percentage of whites or above average percentage of African Americans. Twenty-five of the 70 were in areas with a below-average income. Vaughan called it "a classic case of skimming or seeking out healthier than average people."

"Medicare Advantage plans go out of their way to target patients with chronic conditions," countered Zerkelbach.

It was a moot point for Smith; he didn't stay on EverCare's rolls for long. Smith had two things most victims of such policy-switches don't: access to free legal help in his neighborhood and a wife smart enough to tell him to use it. His attorney at Legal Aid, Jennifer Hatton, pressed the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) to rescind his enrollment in the Medicare Advantage plan, arguing that it was done fraudulently and was therefore illegitimate. CMS has long battled with shady marketing practices employed by Medicare Advantage companies. The agency has increasingly tightened what they're legally allowed to do, but policing against all situations like Smith's is a practical impossibility.

In late February, CMS apparently agreed that Smith had been enrolled under illegitimate circumstances. (The agency didn't return a call for comment.) CMS, as a result, agreed to retroactively disenroll him from EverCare and re-enroll him in traditional Medicare.

Arthur Delaney contributed reporting to this story.

Curtis Smith is retired, but his body doesn't know it yet. The 72-year-old's eyes still pop open at five a.m. every morning, just as they did for decades. With no job to go to, he lays there. "You're...
Curtis Smith is retired, but his body doesn't know it yet. The 72-year-old's eyes still pop open at five a.m. every morning, just as they did for decades. With no job to go to, he lays there. "You're...
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- koromuso I'm a Fan of koromuso 4 fans permalink

I have a Medicare Advantage Plan and it is first rate. No monthly premium. A $5 co-pay for the G.P. and $25 for a specialist. I have a mammogram for $25, X-rays for the same amount. A day in the hospital is $100.

I am MORE than satisfied. Every single day I thank the good Lord for this plan.

There is more than one Medicare Advantage Plan. For heaven's sake, do your homework! Find one that treats you like you wish to be treated....not like dogmeat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 03/16/2009
- Dynamohum I'm a Fan of Dynamohum 62 fans permalink

I get everything you get and MORE with a Medigap policy and I don't pay anything but the premium. You've either chosen a lower tier policy or you have been SCAMMED.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 03/16/2009
- ljwaldron I'm a Fan of ljwaldron 3 fans permalink

No, she is not scammed. There are terrific MA policies, but you need to read them to make sure they cover YOU and your conditions.

A Medigap; aka supplement,you still have to pay for Part B & D. The total can easily be $350/month. Not all retirees can afford this! Especially for people that don't have a lot of health issues.

We aren't all cut from the same cookie cutter!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 03/16/2009
- DocTwain I'm a Fan of DocTwain 114 fans permalink
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If it weren't for the Medicare Advantage scam, you could get the exact same coverage provided directly by the U.S. government through regular Medicare, cutting out the zero-value-added private insurer middleman, and save taxpayers 20 to 25% of the cost.

Private insurers literally CANNOT compete with a government insurance program for efficiency and value. It is IMPOSSIBLE. If the system is designed honestly and not as a scam, a government insurance program can ALWAYS offer superior coverage at lower cost--EVERY TIME.

That is because of ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. Private insurers devour on average 20% of every dollar they receive in overhead, marketing, and profit. But Medicare HAS no profit or marketing, and its overhead is much lower, so its administrative costs are only 3%. All a private insurer does that's worth anything to patients or providers is to write a check to pay for care. And a government insurer can write that check for a tiny fraction of the cost.

See my post further up the page for an explanation, and follow this link:

http://www.pnhp.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 03/16/2009
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Only problem is, medicare coverages vary state to state. There is no national regulatory oversight of Medicare systems

There would not be a NEED for a government run program if insurance companies didn't try to bilk their customers out of as much money as possible with the lowest possible care.

Even social security, which was originally intended to be a temporary program would not be needed if people were not forced to pay such exorbitant rates of insurance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 03/17/2009
- slithers I'm a Fan of slithers 23 fans permalink

Can we please phase out medicare and social security?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 03/16/2009
- Dynamohum I'm a Fan of Dynamohum 62 fans permalink

Sod off mate!! Repuke Alert!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 03/16/2009
- slithers I'm a Fan of slithers 23 fans permalink

Excellent rebuttal except the republicans support medicare and social security just like the democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 03/16/2009
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no, now pi ss off!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 03/16/2009
- slithers I'm a Fan of slithers 23 fans permalink

You suffer from a mild case of ideological Intolerance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 03/16/2009

Phase out? So you can get yours first? Aren't you sweet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 03/16/2009

Time to make examples of Bush spawn scammers. It has been open season on society's weak and helpless for a long 8 years. Millions have been taken to the butcher and their cries have been suppressed by the Bush media juggernaut.

Now is the time to go after these scammers every way we can.

These guys have had the long knives out slaughtering our elderly to steal their purse money. They have done more destruction of lives than Osama Bin Laden

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 03/16/2009

Time to make examples of Bush spawn scammers. It has been open season on society's weak and helpless for a long 8 years. Millions have been taken to the butcher and their cries have been suppressed by the Bush media juggernaut.

Now is the time to go after these scammers every way we can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 03/16/2009
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the state health insurance assistance program told me without telling me that I would be screwed if I went with a medicare advantage plan......medicare advantage had to have been lobbied and paid for by the insurance industry.....we know plan D was lobbied and paid for by both the insurance companies and the pharmaceutical industry.
so I'm confused.....we have a gazillion dollar war(s) going on and are giving gazillions of dollars to folks who laughlingly controlled the price run up in the RE market.....and cannot afford to provide even basic health care services to citizens.

Okay?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 03/16/2009

These scam plans need to be put out of business, one way or another. I know Obama seems to want to include the private sector in some way with his plan, but in the end, a Medicare for everyone type of thing is the only way to go.

So many people are now fed up with their health care that this has a chance of happening for the first time.

There should be NO PROFIT involved in getting people coverage. Fair compensation and companies who can compete on a non-profit basis would be OK, but there will never be an affordable health care system that drains out money like Medicare Advantage. It just doesn't add up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 03/16/2009
- tbirdalum I'm a Fan of tbirdalum 25 fans permalink
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I tell you what they need. A universal health care plan that covers everything. I don't care if it is socialism. Take the whole health care industry out of the hands of the crooks. Sounds like the protection rackets that used to exist years ago. Built on the same format if you ask me. With the thousands of plans available you need to hire a rocket-scientist to decipher all that crap. I'm a veteran who lives on social security. I gave up my medicare part b because I need the money each month and I go to the va in Memphis for my care. I don't require much health care. I've only been operated on one time in my life for a kidney stone and thats it. I pay a co-pay for my meds and next year won't pay any co-pay for the dr's visits. Maybe better times are coming in health-care. Hope so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 03/16/2009
- syn I'm a Fan of syn permalink

and the worst part about Medicare Advantage Plans.... MEDICARE pays a commision to the insurance agent who sells a client into a Advantage Plan..!!!! Last year the commision was over 500$... So if that isn't temptation for agents to sell advantage plans, I dont know what is. The only one who benefits from a advantage plan is the person who sells it to you, and not the person buying it. And this is coming from someone who is licensed.

I don't sell these products, because it was to heart breaking to see elderly getting scre-wed by my own coworkers. I tried to help everyone I could, but I found I was a minority in my feild who cared about the client, and not my bottom line. And to me, sleeping at night knowing I actually helped someone was more important then a paycheck. I acutally got laid off, and others I worked with, because I was more focused on people instead of numbers. Most of the agents that kept their jobs were the most uneducated, and corrupt. GO Figure!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 03/16/2009
- Dynamohum I'm a Fan of Dynamohum 62 fans permalink

We have the GOP MONSTERS to thank for the current health insurance nightmare, because they passed legislation to do this over 7 years ago!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 03/16/2009

You are trying to blame one party for this. Guess what ? The Democrats are just as bad! Neither party knows nothing. The good politicians either get out of office or don't wind up running again. People like you who vote and put the same damn people in office are the problem!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 03/17/2009

Until we all scream loudly enough to our leaders, nothing will change. We must have single payer for all, no special treatment, nada, single payer for all. This eliminates pre exsisting condition, over priced meds, refused medical treatment and mandatory medical tests. Under single payer, we would have everything covered, and yes it can be done and must. We don't need 2 wars costing us trilliions, we need healthcare for all Americans, period. Until we get this, nobody who is eldery should go for anything more than medicare. Don't let them scare you, dupe you, fool you, its not better care, or more coverage, that is a lie. Medicare is all anyone needs for now. Once we get single payer, you can sit back and relax.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 03/16/2009
- DLZ I'm a Fan of DLZ 5 fans permalink

I lived in England for six years in the late eighties and early nineties. A small amount was taken out of my pay check each month for National Healthcare. I am being completely honest when I say that the care I received under the NHS in England was better than anything I have received here with an HMO. I never had to pay a dime for a visit to a hospital or doctor's office. One summer my daughter visited me over a holiday break from School. She got sick and needed a doctor quickly. I called my doctor's office which was closed for the holiday. Within 1 hour, the doctor met me at the office, treated her, and sent us home with the medications she needed -- all at no charge. That simply would not happen here. I would have to take her to an emergency room and pay a fortune because at the time, she was not covered by any insurance. It is time that we took the private insurance companies out of the equation. Healthcare should not be about profit margins and bonuses for CEOs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 03/16/2009
- SammyD I'm a Fan of SammyD 11 fans permalink

have you followed recent news? Great for England unless you have breast cancer and then the health insurnace will not cover the expense drugs you require. Which illness will not be covered next and will it be the one you get?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 03/16/2009
- Dynamohum I'm a Fan of Dynamohum 62 fans permalink

You are LIE ing!! They cover cancer treatment!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 03/16/2009
- Synoia I'm a Fan of Synoia 8 fans permalink

There is no "health insurance" as you would know it in England.

Breast Camcer is covered.

What there is not, is expensive ICUS for the terminally senior (OAP), where the tubes in the arms just suck the money out of the patient's bank account.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 03/16/2009
- DLZ I'm a Fan of DLZ 5 fans permalink

Sorry, you are wrong. I was diagnosed with Breast Cancer while in England and received everything I needed to fight it. Had another cancer scare while there and though it did not turn out to be anything, I was glad to get it seen to, very quickly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 03/16/2009
- DLZ I'm a Fan of DLZ 5 fans permalink

In addition to the excellent care I received, I would also like to point out the financial advantages of the National Health Care System in England. For most care -- including preventative tests, annual exams, etc., -- why would you want to pay more than the nominal amount paid into a National Health Care system. Not only did I benefit medically, but I benefited pay wise as well. Working for the same company in England, I received much higher average pay raises than I do working for the same company in the US. One of the reasons is that here in the US my company pays a fortune for medical coverage for its employees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 03/16/2009

preying on old people, in unsafe neiborhoods. isn't that what gangbangers do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 03/16/2009

US = "Scammer Nation."

Banks, insurance companies, corporations, investment houses, medical insurers/providers.

Where is the Obama White House? Just sitting on the sidelines while Americans get scammed 24/7.

Why did we vote for Obama again? To CHANGE THINGS maybe? eh? Hello?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 03/16/2009
- Koreboomer I'm a Fan of Koreboomer 17 fans permalink
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If you'd read the report, you'd discover that the Obama Admin. told a health insurance lobby what they didn't want to hear.
"Change" isn't going to take a week or two.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 03/16/2009
- syn I'm a Fan of syn permalink

Medicare problems were a problem before Obama got into office. I think most are now being effected by the problem, and it's now getting reported more often, is because most folks over the age of 65 are getting kicked of their group plans, that were once part of pension benefits. Most companies are doing this to save on their overall bottom line. Anyone who doubts this, ask anyone who worked for Ford, Chrystler, & GMAC! Also we have the babyboomer's aging into this program in droves as we speak. This problem will only get worse, with more people coming into the program. I hope Obama looks into this issue, and finds a workable solution for everyone. But I agree it will not happen overnight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 03/16/2009
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HE CAN'T DO IT OVERNIGHT! Jeeez!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 03/16/2009

He won't be able to do it in four or eight years! Don't Mess with the health program we have now. It's not perfect, but better than any other country out there. That's why they all come here to get medical treatment, including high ranking officials from all over the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 03/17/2009
- MizLiz I'm a Fan of MizLiz 60 fans permalink
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Sure - stick with Medicare...but if you can get a plan that supplements Medicare, and pays the provider what Medicare doesn't...you've got a good deal. A lot of doctors won't take Medicare patients because they'll lose money...not so with people who have supplementary insurance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 03/16/2009

My parents have me to look over them. I don't let anything get by me, or ahold of them. I protect them with my life. I only wish other elderly people had families doing the same for them. I feel for all of the elderly people who get fooled by unscrupulous conmen trying to take what should be thier life savings. For shame. People, if you really care about your parents, grand parents sit them down, and talk to them about thier financial situation. let them know you care, want to protect them, thier assets, won't allow anyone to harm them or all they worked for. They become targets easily, become scared of bully tactics phonies use, or insurance companies use to dupe them. We must be thier watchguards and protectors. They have raised us, given birth to us, put us through life, college, and we owe them this much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 03/16/2009

This is a huge problem. When I entered the healthcare field I encountered many people that were scammed out of their benefits. It was sad, heartbreaking. They couldn't believe they would be lied to by these swindlers. These people were being manipulated and compromised by greedy pigs in a disgusting manner and the Bush administration did nothing about it.

There's been a concerted effort in the healthcare realm to bring justice to these scammers, but no traction has really been made.

I'm very happy that Obama is ready to tackle this problem. The importance of restructuring healthcare is tantamount to re-establishing the economy! I'm glad I voted for a president that's not going to let corporate raiders run rampant!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 03/16/2009
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