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GM CEO: Bankruptcy Would Cause Liquidation

TOM KRISHER   03/17/09 07:19 PM ET   AP

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DETROIT — If General Motors Corp. were forced into Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, the company would end up being liquidated because a long bankruptcy would scare customers away, Chief Executive Rick Wagoner said Tuesday.

Speaking at a breakfast in Washington, D.C., Wagoner said restructuring the company out of court would accomplish 99 percent of what could be achieved in bankruptcy, but without the risk of losing customers or the huge expense of Chapter 11.

Wagoner's statements came as members of President Barack Obama's auto task force told Michigan lawmakers they would signal next week what direction they plan to take to restructure GM and Chrysler LLC.

Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., who met with members of the panel on Capitol Hill, said they would make "a significant statement" by the end of next week on the restructuring. Levin said it would not be definitive but would show "the direction that it needs to go."

Rep. Sander Levin, D-Mich., the senator's older brother, said the task force made clear they expect to present a "framework" that would take into account the companies, their debtholders, suppliers and the United Auto Workers union.

The panel members said they want to "help the industry survive and restructure outside bankruptcy," the congressman said.

The lawmakers also discussed their concerns for auto suppliers, who are seeking billions in loans and government aid and face an intense cash crunch this month. Auto suppliers met later in the day with members of the task force.

"Our entire area is hanging on by their fingertips," said Rep. Candice Miller, R-Mich.

Critics of GM and Chrysler, which have received $17.4 billion in government loans to stay alive and have requested a total of $39 billion, say the government should let them go into a short, prepackaged bankruptcy that would let them restructure debt and void costly labor contracts.

But at the breakfast sponsored by The Christian Science Monitor, Wagoner said a 30- or 60-day prepackaged bankruptcy might not work.

"If it doesn't, you'd need in the end a long period of bankruptcy which I believe would result in liquidation of the company," he said, adding that GM research continues to show that customers would shy away from buying vehicles from companies in bankruptcy.

Wagoner also said Ford Motor Co.'s deal with the United Auto Workers to change the funding of a retiree health care trust fund will not work for GM. Ford and the union agreed that the company will make half of its payments to the fund in stock instead of cash.

"The Ford program does not meet our needs at all," Wagoner said on an audio recording of the event obtained by The Associated Press. "It's basically a par deal. It probably works for Ford. It doesn't work for us."

Wagoner said GM needs to do "something different" and is working with the UAW to make that happen.

He also said he hopes auto parts suppliers get government aid soon because their situation is "getting more precarious."

Parts-making companies, especially those tied to the Detroit Three, have suffered as automakers have cut production to match weaker sales, and many are on the brink of bankruptcy.

GM has proposed that the government create a credit insurance program that would guarantee payments from automakers to parts makers, making it easier for suppliers to borrow against the expected payments.

Suppliers, Wagoner said, have held up better than expected for the past 30 days, but he predicted their situation will worsen.

"I think the pressure is there and continues to grow," he said. "The longer the industry runs at low production levels, I think the greater the risk grows."

Chrysler and GM each face a March 31 deadline to finish plans to show the government how they can become viable again and repay the government loans.

GM has received $13.4 billion in federal loans and is seeking an additional $16.6 billion. Chrysler has received $4 billion and is seeking an additional $5 billion.

GM announced Tuesday that it will hold its annual meeting in Detroit instead of Wilmington, Del., this year to save money and increase shareholder participation. The company also will delay the meeting until Aug. 4 _ about two months later than usual _ as it grapples with its restructuring plan. GM's directors believe it will be able to give shareholders a better perspective on the company's operations by waiting, company spokeswoman Julie Gibson said.

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Associated Press Writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this report.

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07:53 PM on 03/19/2009
We must protect America's assets from overseas investors in this time of 'fire sales'...... rulings which state American citizens must keep the majority of ownership is vital for our future financial health.
02:14 PM on 03/19/2009
China's BYD already has a 20,000 $ electric hybrid, they should buy GM !
02:55 PM on 03/19/2009
That's why we'd be further ahead liquidating our dinosaurs and hoping well-run managements from Toyota and others can save U. S. production. If legacy costs stick our producers in the stratosphere, it will be that much worse when we do have to compete with the Chinese.
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JoeBlough
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06:51 PM on 03/18/2009
It's like pumping fresh blood into a corpse. A waste of resources.
11:12 AM on 03/19/2009
Like many others you seem to want to continue pumping billions more into unemployment benefits instead of taking a chance on beginning to re-tooling our manufacturing base, saving American jobs, and contributing future industry earnings to the national budget. If we lose GM & Chrysler we will be adding up to (by some estimates) 1.5 million people to our already near record high uemployment rolls, costing us billions more in benefits. The "let them fail" mantra is a familiar theme of the anti-union and special interest crowds. It is time to put America's interests ahead of ideology and special interests. For the record, I am not and have never been employed by the auto industry in any capacity, either directly or indirectly. I am however an American, and have and will always champion America's interests and well being.
12:54 PM on 03/19/2009
How much does GM pay these days per post? 25 cents? Does that come with retirement benefits? Do they pay more if you claim that you don't work for them?

:-)
06:25 PM on 03/18/2009
Let GM go bankrupt, they take the suppliers with them, then Chrysler and Ford go to. Toyota uses 60% of the same suppliers here that the Big Three do, so they are hurting. Soon that $22,000 Prius that is not selling now will have a $32,000 to $42,000 price tag on it because the foreign makers do not have the capacity to supply all 9 million autos, a very down year, that will be sold this year. They will have us by the short and curlies. By the way, that "inefficient" GM company makes as many vehicles as Toyota with a lot fewer workers!
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11:47 PM on 03/18/2009
In addition General Motors, Ford,and Chrysler purchased (2007 numbers) $156 Billion in U.S. Auto Parts and Materials Purchases, while all others purchased $58 Billion in U.S. Auto Parts and Materials Purchases.

In addition, the amount of US/Canadian Content for Vehicles Manufactured in North America for GM is 77%, while the US Based Foreign car manufacturers average 55%.
01:13 PM on 03/19/2009
The market won't go away simply because a supplier fails. On the contrary, it will grow if more efficient producers expand capacity. BTW: Wagoner has got to be driving his sales people crazy talking about liquidation.
04:08 PM on 03/19/2009
Nobody said the market would go away, I said it will be there but without GM/Ford/ Chrysler, the foreign makers do not have enough production capacity to keep up even with demand of 9 million vehicles, a horrible year. The law of supply and demand, already working on used cars, will drive prices through the roof. This recession will be a full blown depression if they go under.
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01:39 PM on 03/18/2009
To borrow a line from Stephen King's 'Pet Semetary'

Sometimes, dead is better.
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12:42 PM on 03/18/2009
That planned obsolescence philosophy comes back to haunt one of it's developers. By squandering countless opportunities for innovation and leadership, GM management has sealed the fate of the company and now they will be appear as one of the the dead end branches on the corporate evolutionary tree. GM is brain dead, time to let it go, salvage what assets and workers we can and move on to investing in and creating industries, companies and workers that are 21st century compliant. Just like an old car, GM is just going to keep nickel and dime-ing us from now on out and their products may never be embraced as they once were relative to their successful competitors.
12:29 PM on 03/18/2009
Liquidation is fine with me. What's not so fine is endless tax payer gouging for a dead company.

Let's go, GM. You have overstayed your welcome.
Konnie
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11:09 AM on 03/18/2009
question: why don't the workers buy it out? fire the tower team, and start building cars that
they want to build and the people can afford. If you take out the cost of the tower execs,
you could take $10,000 off the price of each car................
12:31 PM on 03/18/2009
The workers will be shortly unemployed and they will need every penny of their money to survive that. Why would you want to burden them by buying their own dead company? That only profits GM equity holders who would quickly cash out all the money the workers put in.

This company is beyond repair.
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notAMoron
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10:22 AM on 03/18/2009
Why does GM run advertisements in my area claiming "The best warranty in America, Ford can't do it not even Toyota." Every time I hear that commercial I can't help but think that the warranty isn't worth the paper it is written on because Ford and Toyota are not $20B into governement loans which is as good as bankrupt to me.
12:31 PM on 03/18/2009
It's always easy to promise stuff that one can't keep anyway.
08:24 AM on 03/18/2009
Somebody will be very interested in those assembly lines and skilled workers once the come on the market. Maybe an electric vehicle conglomerate?
12:32 PM on 03/18/2009
The GM assembly lines are woefully inefficient. Nobody will buy them, especially not the car companies which have their own efficient assembly lines running empty right now.
01:21 AM on 03/18/2009
Give them more money to lay off more workers?

To hell with it, we ought to nationalize GM, too.
10:19 PM on 03/17/2009
oh piss off.... Bankruptcy is exactly what this company needs
11:16 PM on 03/17/2009
Like it or not, Congree will provide this industry withe additional bailout money. Just like AIG and Wells Fargo and Citicorp, how did that work out for you? We can save this industry and make it a prosperous entity that actually contributes earnings to you and me. Or do you prefer using taxpayer moneys to pay huge bonuses to the very people largely responsible for the daunting crisis we find ourselves in? Bankruptcy for GM is not a solution, instead it is the vehicle that will transport this company to the cemetery, never to be resurrected. Have you not had enough of transfering America's wealth and manufacturing infrastructure to foreign lands, or are you one of those that bemoans the fact there are no longer any good paying benefits-laden industrial jobs remaining in this country, all the while driving to WalMart in your imported vehicle to buy more Chinese junk? No, I will not piss off.....I will continue to fight for America and and for the American taxpayer who deserve better than they have gotten over the last 30 years. BTW, if GM is forced to file for bankruptcy protection, estimates suggest the filing could cost up to $30B. Guess who gets tagged to pay for that. If you live in America you should be cheering for it's success, not it's demise.
01:07 AM on 03/18/2009
The expenses in these companies are excessive and I am sure they are not going to fix their problems with any help, in the short time they are going to need more and more, they are not capable of survive in the actual world. And it’s impossible for the current American to buy from them because their cars are toooooo expensive. Let them go Bankruptcy. These companies are monstrous black holes like AIG and a lot of banks.
02:21 AM on 03/18/2009
We have not even begun to address the war debt (Iraq's oil alone is not going to pay for it) and you want us to waste even more untold sums of taxpayers money on the saving what cannot be saved. Brilliant, simply brilliant. BANKRUPTCY is the clear and obvious solution and what they should have legally been forced to do to begin with versus bilking the taxpayers and heading us down a path of exponential bilking. Everyone is tired of the "Well, we bailed out the financial institutions didn't...why not the Pig 3!" Blah, blah, blah. I did not support that move either, and will not support this move either. Let's just use your child-burning-their-hand one more time--didn't we learn from lending to the financial institutions? Why make the same mistake twice?
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10:11 PM on 03/17/2009
DLSBR. Every American leader should read what you wrote. You stated the issue and solution simply and unambiguously.
09:32 PM on 03/17/2009
My wife and I just sold our last remaining American vehicle. We have no intentions of replacing it with another American vehicle. The same holds true for our children, and our parents. With this in mind, there is no reason why the American taxpayer should be burdened with an obsolete American industry. The US automotive industries were governed by highly-paid executives—they failed. No more, enough is enough, bankruptcy is the proper course now, and was in the beginning of this taxpayer fiasco. GM and Chrysler are both goners; Ford is a wait-and-see proposition.
11:38 PM on 03/17/2009
Those of you who continue to look back will never see the opportunities that lay in front of you. You will continue to stumble over these opportunities and complain that somebody should clear your path to wherever you are going in life. Opportunities like the one GM represents do not come along often and are difficult to recognize. If the Chinese or the Japanese can seize the remnants of GM and make it a profitable entity, producing the vehicles of the future, I say we Americans can do it even better. America pioneered the automobile but lost it's way due to greed and poor management. We can change that. We can change that tomorrow by allowing the taxpayers to purchase this industry and work for themselves while re-building this former icon of American manufacturing prowess. We are cognizant of the factors leading to this industry's troubles. When you were a child and burned your hand by holding it too close to the flame from a candle, did you repeat that mistake? If your answer is yes, I can understand why you would believe this industry cannot be resurrected. Most of us would not repeat this industry's historical mistakes, we would learn from them and build an industry second to none in the world. Now that's the change I believe in.
02:06 AM on 03/18/2009
Sorry but America has never really built first-rate automobiles. This is excruciatingly clear as time has proven that others simply do it better. Why waste America's brain-trust on an industry it has never really been first-rate in? I positively will not support a juggernaut ripe with propaganda of the sky is falling and America is doomed if we do not support the Pig 3 auto industries? Not going to happen with my votes on the subject--I am not alone on this issue. We are heading into taxation without representation as I do not want any of my taxes dollars going to corporate welfare that turns defunct and changes into nationalized welfare. I see the future and it does not include the Pig 3. BTW, America did not pioneer the automobile (more useless propaganda). And the Pig 3 executives not only burnt their hands (to use your analogy) they cut them off, time and time again.
12:38 PM on 03/18/2009
GM has nothing that can be made profitable by anyone. Sorry, you are sticking your head into the sand and mistake it for clouds.

"America pioneered the automobile"

Actually, Germany did that. Mr. Benz and Mr. Diesel are not Americans.

"When you were a child and burned your hand by holding it too close to the flame from a candle, did you repeat that mistake?"

No. But the US automobile industry did. So they are, according to your own words less intelligent than a child.

"and build an industry second to none in the world"

But YOU didn't. Unless you declare everybody who is working in the US automobile industry non-citizens.

It's really this simple: they goofed, they need to go.
09:30 PM on 03/17/2009
No big deal. Good bye GM. The void will be filled by a real company.