AIG Anticipated Major Losses And Rigged Bonuses: Frank

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April 2, 2009 at 07:15 PM

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The contracts that AIG executives have cited as justification for bonus payments insured that they would receive the money regardless of massive losses.

Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who read from the contracts in question at a hearing of a subcommittee of the House Financial Services Committee Wednesday, suggested AIG executives structured the contracts in such a way in anticipation of dramatic losses.

Frank, chairman of the committee, also said that if AIG CEO Edward Liddy did not provide the names of the recipients of the bonuses, he would subpoena them. He suggested the federal government file suit to reclaim the bonuses, arguing that they are illegitimate since the company performed so poorly.

"I looked at the contract that's being invoked as unassailable," said Frank, "and here's what it says:

The bonus pool for any compensation year, beginning with the 2008 compensation year, will be effected by the incurrence of any realized losses arising from any source subject to the limitations set forth in section 3.07.

And section 3.07 says,

Notwithstanding any other provision of the plan for any compensation year beginning with 2008, there shall be a 67.5 million dollar limit per year on the extent to which the pool can be reduced.

Frank went on to read a passage that insured that even if AIG lost tens of billions of dollars, those responsible would still be rewarded. "What it says is," said Frank, "if the losses in the year exceed 225 million dollars, then that loss above 225 million is irrelevant to reducing the bonus pool. Two hundred and twenty-five million turned out to be a rounding error in their losses."

[UPDATE: Read the contracts.]

Frank translated the language. "It means that if in fact they have a net loss for the year, they still get the bonuses. This is the problem. This is the problem with the contracts," he said. "So they give themselves contracts that effectively insulate them from losses."

The structure of the contracts, Frank said, suggests that AIG executives anticipated major losses, yet sought to protect their compensation.

Such contracts could be susceptible to a court challenge brought by the federal government as the owner of the company. "I do believe that it is time for us to assert our ownership rights under this arrangement," he said. "That may be a controversial lawsuit, but it's a better one than trying to interfere under our regulatory authority."

The contracts that AIG executives have cited as justification for bonus payments insured that they would receive the money regardless of massive losses. Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who read from th...
The contracts that AIG executives have cited as justification for bonus payments insured that they would receive the money regardless of massive losses. Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who read from th...
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- sarabono I'm a Fan of sarabono 18 fans permalink

The Congress is working to pass a bill to get back $165 MILLION of AIG bonuses. It was just reported that this bill (clawback) is for bonus from January 1st FORWARD.

What about the $3.6 BILLION in bonuses paid by Merrill Lynch in DECEMBER 08 -- just before Bank of America "formally" took over Merrill Lynch with Federal TARP Funds at the request (demand?) of the Treasury / Federal Reserve?

Seems to me that if we are going to go after "bonus" money that $3,600,000,000 is a much fatter target than $165,000,000. Why go fishing for a Guppy when when there is a huge Shark next door?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 03/19/2009

Our Congress has become a ship of fools. Maybe they always were. The whole point of these smelly bailouts was to save the U.S., meaning us, not the banks. Now the Congress is doing Whatever It Takes to undermine these businesses. I am really surprised that the CEO of AIG put up with such crap from the Congress. These people are panderes of the worst sort. And frankly, they put all of us at risk with this sort of stupid behavior. I have never seen anything more embarassing in my life than their performance today. And frankly, I felt they threatened everyone's future with their stupidity and belligerience. I would fire the lot of them. There are some advantages to a Parliamentary democracy it seems. I just knew Paulson and Dodd had cut a deal over bonuses six months ago, and now we've had to sit through all of this vomit from these sick elected people who claim to represent the United States. I am more than willing to sell them cheap to Chavez for a few million barrels of crude.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 03/18/2009
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You are oh so wrong!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 03/28/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 412 fans permalink
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Business Collapse Can End UNION Contracts, But NOT AIG Bonus Contracts?

http://minnesotaindependent.com/29178/aig-bonuses-contract-unions

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 03/18/2009
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 337 fans permalink
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The only two ways that union contracts can be negated are:

1.) The unions agree to dissolve them and renegotiate for the sake of keeping a company afloat or to avoid t'hreatened lay-offs.
2.) Bankruptcy judges can vacate contracts and order renegotiation.
(But the company in question MUST have filed for bankruptcy. Something AIG didn't have to do because taxpayers stepped-in and bailed them out first.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 03/18/2009
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Another example where inequality of legal standing exists.

We must correct this bifurcating (or trifurcating) of rights between white and blue and green collar workers!

A worker is a worker is a worker and a contract is a contract is a contract.

The same rules apply no matter!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 03/19/2009
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 337 fans permalink
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How convenient it is to omit a simple truth in order to fan the flames a little bit more.

OF COURSE AIG put anticipatory language in their contracts!

It's a legal document for crap's sake! Any lawyer worth their hourly rate would ensure that all available protective language addressing any contingencies was included in a contract, regardless of financial times.

I guarantee you that if Frank and others examine contracts from prior years when business was booming, and even similar documents from other companies, the same or similar wording is included in them as well.

How ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 03/18/2009
- mikeVA I'm a Fan of mikeVA 16 fans permalink
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The fees do matter and in this case the bonuses do matter. Ask all of the bernie madoffs: "In connection with the purported trades, I caused the fraudulent investment advisory side of my business to charge the investment advisory clients $0.04 per share as a commission­." More than one bernie madoff fund is out there and a whole set of financial players, the rating agencies, the accountants, the big fund players, catered to eek out a small fee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 03/18/2009
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I know Massachusetts is a pro-gay state. Can't they replace him with a competent gay man?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 03/18/2009

LMAO - Fannie and Freddie did the same thing under the careful oversight of Barney Frank - - -

He's a quick learner I can tell you that...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 03/18/2009
- jerrypl I'm a Fan of jerrypl 60 fans permalink
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http://takebacktheeconomy.org/

PROTESTS ON THURSDAY TAKE BACK THE ECONOMY

http://eye-on-washington.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 03/18/2009
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You should organize with:

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/21018/

http://www.taxdayteaparty.com/

There is power in numbers and unity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 03/18/2009
- Jezreel I'm a Fan of Jezreel 62 fans permalink
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Different agenda and different ideology. On this site there aren't very many who willingly and knowingly organize against their own interests; Llicious.

If you're really looking for converts, you might want to try Faux Noise or Limbaugh's Place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 03/19/2009
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The disparity between executives' and average Americans' salaries is obscene, and has been growing exponentially for decades. I wondered what it would take to bring it back into some kind of balance so that the middle class would not be obliterated. Sad to see that it takes a Great Depression with all it's pain and suffering to bring back equilibrium and enact sensible laws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 03/18/2009
- ALHayes I'm a Fan of ALHayes 3 fans permalink
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Wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry, I'm usually a fan of Barney Frank but he is out of line here. He was the loudest voice in Congress shouting for bailouts from the very beginning. These are mismanaged companies that are going under and now we are rewarding them with more money! It's like tossing a bone to my dog and saying, "Do want you want with this, but whatever you do, don't eat it."

While I agree 100% that AIG should not use this money for bonuses, I blame Frank and all of Congress for thoughtlessly throwing good money after bad. Our money. This economy needs a wider examination to address issues that got us here. Put restrictions on bank and markets again. Put caps on interest rates and executive pays with inflated tax rates for the credit card company profits and excessive executive salaries and bonuses.

If Congress wants to redistribute our money, how about passing it on to the people who are losing their money? They pay the mortgage, the bank gets its money, the insurance companies don't have to recover the money and PEOPLE KEEP THEIR HOUSES. A win, win, win, win!

*sigh*

If only Obama would ask me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 03/18/2009
- Bill64 I'm a Fan of Bill64 2 fans permalink

Here is a solution, expel everyone in the house and senate and start all over. I wouldn't want to many people to know I was fan of Barney, he knew about the bonuses well before they were published. Tell him if he wants to act, go to Hollywood, like most of congress and this current administration, they are just another bunch of hypocrits we have send to Washington. Maybe Obama needs to spend more time in the oval office instead of jet setting all over the US at taxpayers expense, so he can pay attention to what people like Frank, Polsi, and Reid are doing along with his administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 03/18/2009
- ALHayes I'm a Fan of ALHayes 3 fans permalink
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Well, let me take a guess who you voted for....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 03/18/2009
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Exactly. This guy makes Bill Clinton look camera shy.

Obama, stop being a celebrity and get to work already. Get away from the cameras and take the leadership role you were voted in to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 03/18/2009
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Barney Frank: I had been worried about you during the Fall TARP payments, that maybe you had gone over to the side of the richies or that they were effectively your constituents and so you had no choice but to defend the rich.
Thank you today for doing the right thing and calling a spade a spade. Sue the Hell out of those greedy, Contract-Rigging Bastards!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 03/18/2009
- army193 I'm a Fan of army193 9 fans permalink
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I found a problem with Mr. Liddy understanding of Retention Bonuses that was written into agreement back in March 2008 based on Mr. Liddy hearing today the making of this agreement would have taken place up to six months prior to March because they need them to stay on while winding down the unite...No­thing was brought to Americans attention until September 2008 and only then was the begging of Closing down this section we ever heard of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 03/18/2009

This fraud should make the institutional stockholders mad as hell. They should sue whoever perpetrated it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 03/18/2009
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Institutional stockholders? You mean us, don't you? The U.S. taxpayers? The U.S. Government? Who is the majority owner of the company. There is no "they"....­we and our reps need to take action...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 03/18/2009
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The rage that people feel is the same kind that precipitated the French Revolution when Marie Antoinette said "Let them eat cake". By all means, let's trot them out so we can see who they are. Maybe pillory them in from of the stock exchange and let the public throw rotten tomatoes at them! Heads must roll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 03/18/2009
- BigSuede I'm a Fan of BigSuede 2 fans permalink

I agree... we should know the faces and names of each person who recieved the bonus AND learn EVERYTHING about whoever put a contract together including a provision that under substantial loss they would still recieve bonus'

These people should be publicly shamed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 03/18/2009

The catastrophe brought on by unbridled greed to the good old USA by the financial industry would have been very largely eliminate by two, very simple, rules that exist, mainly in other countries:

(1) The compensation of highly paid executives in any corporation is not determined by the CEO nor by the Board of Directors nor by a Committee of pals of the CEO -- it is determined by a truly independent committee having no financial, social, or business ties to the executives in question.

(2) Commissions on arranging financing such as mortgage loans are not fully earned up front, but rather are paid from a small percentage of the PAYMENTS made by the loan recipient, collected by a sort of escrow account. If the loan recipient fails during the course of the repayment, the commission is earned and paid only on the payments actually made. [A commision worker who is just starting and cannot wait for the small payments to trickle in can BORROW against future scheduled payments or sell the annuity due him.].

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 03/18/2009
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Good ideas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 03/20/2009
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