Edward Liddy Avoids The B-Word

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - Edward Liddy Avoids The B-Word stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS

March 18, 2009 04:48 PM

I Like ItI Don’t Like It
Aig

AIG CEO Edward Liddy, facing tough questions from a congressional panel reviewing the government-subsidized firm's $165 million in bonus payments, said the insurance giant only handed out that money to retain key staff at its disastrous financial products division. He refused, quite noticeably, to use the B-word.

"AIG has made a set of retention payments to employees based upon a compensation system that prior management put in place at the end of '07 and the beginning of 2008," Liddy said. "This is the only way to improve AIG's ability to pay taxpayers back quickly and completely and the only way to avoid a systemic shock to the economy that the U.S. government help was meant to relieve."

"Retention payment" may lack the fat-cat connotation that "bonus" has acquired lately, but the word choice has raised eyebrows before.

On Tuesday Sen. Bob Menendez announced that he wanted the Obama administration to try to block "retention awards" designed to retain financial advisers at Morgan Stanley and Smith Barney who stayed on for a joint venture between the two companies. The New Jersey Democrat considers such a payment nothing but a "creatively titled bonus."

"These payouts constitute misuse of taxpayer money and are an insult to hardworking families who are saving every penny and changing their way of life just to get through this financial crisis," Menendez said in a statement. In a letter, Menendez asked Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to try to stop Morgan Stanley's retention awards along with AIG's bonuses.

But is there, as Menendez claims, essentially no difference between a bonus and retention award? Morgan Stanley maintains that its awards, nine-year forgivable loans with clawback provisions, are essential to keeping their financial advisers, who are subject to aggressive poaching by competitors. Financial industry consultants say retention awards are a necessary expense reflecting an unusually competitive recruiting climate.

"The need for retention packages is all about the fact that we are in the most competitive market we have ever been in for recruiting top financial advisers," says Mindy Diamond, president of Diamond Consultants, a New Jersey-based consulting firm that specializes in placing financial advisers.

"If there were no retention bonuses the level of attrition would be enormous," Diamond says. "I think [Senator Menendez] is not seeing the whole picture."

Story continues below

Andy Tasnady, founder of Tasnady & Associates, a consulting firm that designs compensation packages, calls Morgan Stanley's retention awards "golden handcuffs."

"Each individual adviser can be thought of as a small business unit," says Tasnady. A retention award that keeps an adviser with a firm is an investment because retaining the adviser keeps the adviser's clients' assets with the company. "The amount of the award sounds like a large amount, but spread out over the nine-year term they're getting paid it's only a small percentage of what they bring in."

Employees at AIG Financial Products are not financial advisers. And a look at the numbers shows that 20% of the "retention" money went to people who left the company.

Liddy said his company's retention awards were only for employees necessary for winding down that division. He added that he had asked award recipients to return some of the money.

"I've asked those who received retention payments in excess of $100,000 or more to return at least half of those payments," he said. "Some have already stepped forward and offered to give up 100% of their payments."

UPDATE: As a commenter points out, Liddy did, in fact, use the B-word during questioning.

AIG CEO Edward Liddy, facing tough questions from a congressional panel reviewing the government-subsidized firm's $165 million in bonus payments, said the insurance giant only handed out that money t...
AIG CEO Edward Liddy, facing tough questions from a congressional panel reviewing the government-subsidized firm's $165 million in bonus payments, said the insurance giant only handed out that money t...
Loading...
 
 
Comments
105
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: 1 2 3 4 Next › Last » (4 pages total)
- clamperken I'm a Fan of clamperken 5 fans permalink

These grifters never give up. Retention payments? To retain who? The incompetent fools who almost broke the back of the American economy. Any company I ever worked for simply fired ineffective management and replaced them with smarter people. I don't care if AIG or any other corp. loses these losers. They proved that they don't know how to make a company profitable. After dumping tons of money into these grifters coffers, we now hear that many of the recipients of these retention bonuses have left the company anyway. Stop this scam and get our money back Congress. Lock up the crooks and replace them with competent and honest management if any such animal exists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 03/19/2009
- DMEEPhD I'm a Fan of DMEEPhD 4 fans permalink

Watching this clown side step every question yesterday made me think about another Liddy. Gordon. They have the same father perhaps?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 03/19/2009
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 77 fans permalink
photo

Bill Maher had it right -- maybe if a few of these egregiously, rapacious bankers were given the death penalty, this crap might stop happening.
*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 03/19/2009
- DCinFrance I'm a Fan of DCinFrance 36 fans permalink
photo

Retention awards indeed. So, why are you not just competitive? If your competitor is in a better position to offer more and thereby "poaching", that's somehow my problem? And OMG if you go out of business, these very same "poachers" won't be there to pick up your slack and the economy will utterly collapse?

Don't try to hose the old hoser.

WAKE UP AMERICA !

Not only have they stolen your retirement funds, this borrowed money is being stolen from your children and their children! They call these bailouts "taxpayers' money", but what taxpayers?? Taxpayers three generations ahead?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 03/19/2009
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 356 fans permalink
photo

I hope Cuomo hurrys up with his investigation. All those that think that Repbs had "nothing" to do with all this mess, need to be schooled.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 03/19/2009

This article does not meet the usually high standards I am used to finding on the Huffington Post. I'm disappointed to read an article titled "Edward Liddy avoids the B-Word". This statement is false by the admission of its author, Arthur Delaney in a one line correction at the end.

Did the author really have a reason to throw Mr Liddy under the bus? Thi is the businessman who came out of retirement at the government's request to fix AIG. Mr Liddy is not one of the chief culprits behind this AIG fiasco. Running an article on the top of the Politics section (or anywhere) that is based on an self admitted false hood to smear a bit player smells of lazy journalism. Where are the real answers to the real questions? (e.g. Who were the parties responsible for making any of this legal in the first place? What are the plans to keep this from ever happening again?)

I recommend the interested reader to check out Edward Liddy's opening statements to congress this morning, available from cspan.org:
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/financialsvcs_dem/fsc_testimony_of_mr_edward_liddy.pdf.

And yes, I also heard Libby say "Bailout" a number of times during his testimony.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 03/18/2009
- Mitchell4A I'm a Fan of Mitchell4A 8 fans permalink

There is another B-word here that not enough people are talking about: blackmail.

"AIG: What It Really Means"
http://msa4.wordpress.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 03/18/2009
- filo I'm a Fan of filo 78 fans permalink
photo

Here is another .....b@st@rds !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 03/19/2009

Edward Liddy is Not to be trusted.

Paulson chose Liddy to be CEO of AIG. Liddy's previous position was board member at Goldman Sachs - appointed by Paulson.

Liddy was CEO of Allstate - the same Allstate that was denying payment of claims during Hurricanes Katrina and Rita - yep that was Liddy.

Liddy is a known die-hard Republican - and during the 80s - he was CFO when Donald Rumsfeld was CEO of pharma company Searle.

Liddy was put in at AIG to ensure that AIG survived ling enough to pay off CDS contracts with ... Goldman Sachs - and others. But they owed Goldman Sachs the biggest payout.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 03/18/2009
- Trittydi I'm a Fan of Trittydi 77 fans permalink
photo

Maybe this is where they should start with Bill Maher's idea of giving some of these guys the death penalty.
*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 03/19/2009
- DMEEPhD I'm a Fan of DMEEPhD 4 fans permalink

O.K., you convinced me. Edward and Gordon ARE brothers!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 03/19/2009
- petef59 I'm a Fan of petef59 23 fans permalink

what did the Beatles say? 'You say you want a revolution?' Got to put pressure on Obama,his administration and Democrats. Great leaders are not born, they are pushed to be great by ordinary citizens. Millions of ordinary citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 03/18/2009
- Tom Joad I'm a Fan of Tom Joad 334 fans permalink
photo

crocodile tears and more lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 03/18/2009
- wordvarc I'm a Fan of wordvarc 32 fans permalink

Any relation to E. Gordon...?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 03/18/2009

He only handed out the money that he was legally bound to hand out per Democratic Senator Dodd's ammendment in that huge pork bill that was written by the Democrats, passed by the Democrats and signed by the Democratic president. And don't forget that this guy was installed in AIG by the Democrats back in 2005 after they forced the previous head of the firm to resign. Specifically it was former New York State Democraticic governor Sptizer who did it. You remember Sptizer - the guy who was forced to resign when it was found he was using taxpayer money to buy high-priced hookers. It must really gall all you liberals out there - all this graft and corruption going on and not a single Republican in sight to blame any of it on. But I've got a question for you. If this is what AIG is doing with one-tenth of one percent of the $183 Billion dollars that this adminstration has shoveled off to these croosk, how come no one in Washington is asking about what's happening to the other 99.9% of it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 03/18/2009
- metalpipe I'm a Fan of metalpipe 11 fans permalink
photo

I saw your rants here yesterday. The huge pork you mention was just as guilded by GOP members as it was the dems, so take a chill pill. Spitzer did a lot of good work, he just had a peculiar after hours pastime. That's his personal business. The reason we Dems point a finger at you and your hypicrital cohorts in crime is exactly that. You are hypocrites. Can't practice what you preach.

FYI, I am understanding that $183 billion is a tough number to get your mind around, but the real number needed to get us straight is abut 20 times that. I think Obama and his Congress may have UNDER shot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 03/18/2009

Happy as a "bug in a rug" aren't you, OldManJack2?? *** Origininal comment was misplaced.***

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 03/18/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 90 fans permalink

you'vegot your hookers mixed up, it was the bankers using corporate credit cards for the hookers....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 03/18/2009
- Layman23 I'm a Fan of Layman23 14 fans permalink

Not a republican in sight ? Did you hear what Liddy said ? The cause of the evil in AIG started in 1987. Reaganomics !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 03/18/2009
- rssrai I'm a Fan of rssrai 16 fans permalink

Obama has a chance to clean house. He can get all kinds of regulations on banks and hedge funds. This has been a good thing if it reigns in wallstreet influence on congress. While we are at it let's change the bankruptcy laws too, back to where it was before Bush. The repugs have put themselves in a big bind. If they yell or scream when Obama comes down hard on changing the rules they will look back on the AIG bonus mess and how they went all populist about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 03/18/2009

Happy as a "bug in a rug", aren't you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 03/18/2009
- metalpipe I'm a Fan of metalpipe 11 fans permalink
photo

I agree. I couldn't care less about the bonus issue, just that it doesn't happen this way again, ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 03/18/2009
- Chapmanp2 I'm a Fan of Chapmanp2 15 fans permalink

This guy makes how much money??? & he can't get his frickin' teeth fixed???
WOW!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 03/18/2009
- cbates I'm a Fan of cbates 40 fans permalink
photo

Menendez should shut up and go to cuba or little havana where he is so concerned about the cubans who lost to Fidel.

Folks the pain is only just beginning and will be over before we know it. We must pay these folks and then recoup our money. Going forward we should expressedly as possible say NO to bailouts. Obama's responsibility platform along with education reform should be taken seriously because folks in other countries are aiming to change much more than Obama is proposing. The are looking to change the world ordervia education and energy. How you you like to have the yen as your currency measure or standard?

Actually Chrysler should push away from the bailout table. They had a chance way back when and now they are back as a non regulated company after Daimler took all it could from the employees, especially the R/D.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 03/18/2009
Page: 1 2 3 4 Next › Last » (4 pages total)
Comments are closed for this entry

 You must be logged in to comment. Log in  or connect with 

Connect