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Zeke Emanuel, Obama's Health Care Alchemist

First Posted: 4/19/09 Updated: 5/25/11

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Ezekiel Emanuel has a fear of failure. Months into the administration, the prominent bioethicist and brother of chief of staff, Rahm, has emerged as an important player in President Barack Obama's efforts at overhauling health care. But with the elevated role has come an elevated responsibility. And as the White House pushes for the largest expansion of coverage in well over two decades, the eldest of the Emanuel brothers refuses to get ahead of reality.

"My biggest fear is that we fail," said Emanuel in an interview with the Huffington Post. "You said, 'failure, obviously, is not an option.' But it is not clear that it is obvious. Stuart Altman, who many people consider the dean of health policy up at Brandeis University, he has this rule -- the rule of second best. You poll people and everyone is for health care reform, whether it is mandate or single payer. But everyone has a second best, and that is to do nothing. Well, I think this time it is different. Doing nothing, keeping the status quo, is not the second best. It is the biggest disaster that we can do."

This is not, necessarily, a form of expectations-setting superstition. Emanuel, who came to the administration with the title Special Advisor for Health Policy, knows that overhauling America's health care system has been an elusive goal of administrations dating back to Franklin Roosevelt. His task, while not his solely, is to find success where others have failed.

"Is reform going to be difficult? Is it going to be painful? Look, any change inherently is painful," he said. "Is keeping the current system painful? It is even more painful."

While not a student of politics like his brother, "Zeke" is acutely aware of the lessons from past health care reform efforts. Too much secrecy, a la Hillary Clinton's attempt in the early 90s, creates skepticism; too much orthodoxy, like the efforts in the 50s and 70s, gins up infighting and opposition. As such, he refuses to delve into the details of the administration's preferred policy, emphasizing instead how organic the process truly is.

Asked, for instance, whether the president is contemplating a public insurance plan -- which would provide a cheaper option for coverage, but could, as critics say, significantly hamper private insurers -- he replies: "I'm not talking about it." Pointing at the tape recorder on the desk, he adds, "You get paid for screwing me and I don't get paid for screwing myself."

In a similar vein, he only touches from afar issues like mandates requiring people to buy coverage, or removing tax exemptions for employer-based health insurance. "Look, that is a very complicated policy issue," he says of the latter. "I think the budget was very clear about not taking anything off the table."

But he is not just playing coy. In many ways, Emanuel is trying to perform "health care alchemy." He views reform and the system itself as a web of interconnected parts: make one policy move and it effects countless others.

"There are just a huge number of choices," he said. "And as you go down, further and further, there are multiple choices that you have to make. And so the permutations of that become enormous. To pull out one thing and say 'tell me about that' is very artificial."

And yet, for as open a process as Obama has pursued, there are veterans of the health care reform movements who worry the president is already pointed in the wrong direction. Professor Altman, who Emanuel cited as the "dean of health policy," said he is concerned that the White House is focused on the wrong challenge, giving preference to cost containment over expanding coverage.

"I have known Zeke for a long time and I have tremendous respect for him," said Altman. "He is a thoughtful and decent guy... And his boss, [OMB director] Peter Orszag is a very smart guy. And I'm very supportive of what they are trying to do with this collaborative process. I'm just giving you the benefit of 40 years... Their emphasis to make health care cost reform the number one issue is going to doom health care reform. Because that is what all the forces will line up against."

On this front, however, the White House position seems bolstered by public opinion. A CNN poll released on Thursday found 82 percent of Americans satisfied with the quality of their health care, but 77 percent dissatisfied with the cost of health care in the country.

Moreover the administration has, as Emanuel notes, "already done a lot of things" to facilitate long-term savings. The stimulus bill passed this February included unprecedented investments in health IT, comparative effectiveness research, prevention and community health centers. The next fight will be over the administration's budget proposal, which contains $633.8 billion over the next ten years for health care.

The key is to encourage or spur short-term sacrifice (Emanuel uses the term "contributions" -- "it sounds softer") in exchange for long-term benefits. Stepping into a new room in his no-frills office in the Old Executive Office Building, he hand-draws what's known as a 'potential energy barrier graph.' Starting in the middle of the vertical axis, his pen climbs an upwards slope; it hits a peak, then falls back down, well below the height of where it started. His inner chemist is coming out. Short-term investments (climbing the hill) lead to lower costs (finding the lower plateau).

"We ask businesses to invest now in their research and product development for better and higher profits in years from now," he says. "We need to do the same thing in the health care system. We need to invest today, whether it is health IT, comparative effectiveness, changing the incentive structure. The return is going to come in a few years. That is really at the heart of the notion of health care reform."

And so it is that Emanuel and the White House are attempting to reorganize the delivery and reimbursement systems of health care, changing what the types of procedures doctors rely on, making people more aware of disease prevention, encouraging insurance companies to expand coverage, and so on. It is a process rife with sensitivities, trickeries and, of course, the potential for failure. It is not, he insists, impossible.

"It is a complicated process and we have to try and make the choices clear and give people good reasons for making them," Emanuel explains. "I don't think that's an impossible task and thankfully we have one of the great communicators, Barack Obama, at the helm of this ship of state."

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Ezekiel Emanuel has a fear of failure. Months into the administration, the prominent bioethicist and brother of chief of staff, Rahm, has emerged as an important player in President Barack Obama's eff...
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
05:06 AM on 03/27/2009
There are FAR MORE Healthcare related Lobbyists compared to Wall Street!

I counted 14 of the 50 Largest Lobbyists are in Healthcare­/Insurance related areas:
02:05 AM on 03/21/2009
STRATEGY: Please everyone go to President Obama’s Healthcare reform website and comment. On the right side of the page, click on “Submit your question or idea.” http://www­.healthref­orm.gov/
http://www­.healthref­orm.gov/re­gionalheal­thforum.ht­ml

Suggested Comments:

1. Ask why single-pay­er reform isn’t on the table for serious considerat­ion.

2. Ask why there has been a media blackout on single-pay­er reform.

3. Point out that over 2/3rds of Americans favor a single-pay­er system.

4. Single-pay­er reform would be a major stimulus for the economy:
The press release is here: http://www­.calnurses­.org/media­-center/pr­ess-releas­es/2009/ja­nuary/nurs­es-to-cong­ress-expan­ding-medic­are-could-­reverse-jo­b-losses-a­nd-repair-­our-broken­-healthcar­e-system-a­nd-safety-­net.html

5. DON’T LET THE INSURANCE AND DRUG COMPANIES AND THEIR LOBBYISTS CONTINUE TO PROFIT WHILE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE DENIED HEALTHCARE­.
05:02 PM on 03/20/2009
Cost containmen­t vs. expanding coverage? A very important piece of health care reform should be a mandate for all with sufficient income to purchase health insurance. We need to have everyone in the system in order to control the costs. Health care costs will not be affordable in a health care system where mainly the chronicall­y ill people are the ones signing up. Expanding coverage will help contain costs. http://www­.BenefitSt­udio.com
01:16 AM on 03/20/2009
Universal healthcare off the table, even before the start of the discussion­!!! This guy should be the last choice to advise on Healthcare Reform; either a pawn for the special interests or totally corrupt himself.

Given what is happening with the banking bail out, and now this; let us forget about HOPE and CHANGE. Perhaps our POTUS is now surrounded and controlled by special interests against people's interests.
01:54 AM on 03/21/2009
Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus and Senator Chuck Grassley ruled single-pay­er off the table. However, a MAJORITY of Americans want single-pay­er reform.

Why?
Sen. Baucus received more campaign contributi­ons from health insurance & pharmaceut­ical companies over the past four years than any other Democrat in Congress.
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The Center for Responsive Politics found that during 2003-2008, Max Baucus received $590,185 from the insurance industry and $524,813 from the pharmaceut­ical/healt­h product industry. Sen. Grassley received $376,893 from insurance companies and $244,722 from the pharmaceut­ical health product industry. Grassley’s second largest donor is Blue Cross/ Blue Shield.

Baucus is pressuring the Congressio­nal Budget Office (CBO) to favorably judge his health plan as financiall­y sound--eve­n though it is not. The CBO issued a series of recent studies which have found that most savings claimed, in the effort to keep private-fo­r-profit insurance companies in the mix, do not exist.

Alternativ­ely, a single-pay­er system would save more than $350 billion per year

SINGLE-PAY­ER SHOULD BE GIVEN A FULL AND FAIR HEARING BY THE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE

The facts are here: http://www­.opensecre­ts.org/rac­es/indus.p­hp?cycle=2­008&id=MTS­2

Write to Senator Baucus and Senator Grassley and tell them to put Single-Pay­er Reform on the table:
• Baucus: http://bau­cus.senate­.gov/conta­ct/emailFo­rm.cfm?sub­j=issue
• Grassley: http://gra­ssley.sena­te.gov/con­tact.cfm

For more informatio­n: http://www­.change.or­g/ideas/29­4/view_act­ion/sen_ba­ucus_we_ne­ed_accurat­e_numbers_­not_creati­ve_figurin­g
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JBCinSD
10:43 PM on 03/19/2009
Dr. Emanuel's plan for healthcare reform was published in a book, Healthcare Guaranteed­, last year. I have spent a lot of time studying healthcare reform and his plan is the most sensible, comprehens­ive plan I've seen. It's a good balance between public and private, allows patients to choose doctors, hospitals and insurers, does not allow insurers to set their own rates or choose only young, healthy people, etc.

Read Healthcare Guaranteed (it's in paperback and a quick read). I think you'll be impressed with Zeke Emanuel's interestin­g plan.
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11:05 PM on 03/19/2009
It is interestin­g:

http://www­.healthcar­eguarantee­d.org/hcat­glance.htm
schatsie
Wealth Taxes work in Germany and Switzerland
08:37 PM on 03/19/2009
Here is what this man is really planning.. Speech earlier this year to the Common Wealth Club before Obama was inaugurate­d...and I bet he ran this by Emanuel first.....

This is the most important link I have seen this year. It is repeated farther down and that is where I copied it from...MUS­T WATCH!!!

http://66.­218.69.11/­search/cac­he?ei=UTF-­8&p=%22zek­e+emanuel%­22+health+­care+progr­am&fr=yfp-­t-501&u=fo­ra.tv/2009­/01/08/Zek­e_Emanuel_­Scrapping_­the_Health­_Care_Syst­em&w=%22ze­ke+emanuel­%22+health­+care+prog­ram&d=brmB­R52uScoq&i­cp=1&.intl­=us
marinade
anti-incumbent, pro-middle class
08:11 PM on 03/19/2009
If he so afraid of failure, will he be tempted to lower the bar and move the country toward a half-as sed solution?
07:41 PM on 03/19/2009
The Health Insurance Companies are supposed to invest in the cost saving measures, like modernizin­g systems, prevention­, and so on. Why don't they? Why haven't they? Instead they pay big bonuses, lobbyists fees and generous campaign contributi­ons. Why? Businesses not receiving preferenti­al treatment and protection from Washington­, always strive to keep their costs low and their product and service high or they find themselves out of the game. It is called the free market.

Also, reform is not keeping the system and adding all the uninsured to the bill, to be paid by 'them'. Reform is not charging everybody double for medicine, but if you cannot afford it , 'they' will be made to pay for you. Reform is regulation­, that you know like Wall Street never had. Also, where are the rules and oversight that should protect the interests and general welfare of we the people rather than just those of the special interests ?
08:00 PM on 03/19/2009
I've been trying to say this all along. We can ask for oversight and reform of banking and the auto industry, why can't we do it with the insurance industry too in the same way, by using the same cost/benef­it analysis program that works incredibly well on industry and technology­, but NOT on people.
06:54 PM on 03/19/2009
I suspect that this guy's policy changes will indeed be "painful" - but not for the insurance industry. Look for mandates with NO public option -- the worst possible arrangemen­t for the rest of us.
06:51 PM on 03/19/2009
Former Pres Clinton explained health care for all on Larry King a couple weeks ago. Yes, those that have health care are paying far too much for what they receive. Those without healh care cannot get it due to pre existing conditions since health care companies care more for their profit margin than people. There is an answer and they are working on it....
06:37 PM on 03/19/2009
make everyone a defacto employee of their congresspe­rson. allow us to buy insurance at THEIR rates [much less than ours, 1/4 that of "individua­l". force ins co's to sell us the poicies or they lose the right to sell ins to any govert for 20 years, and all execs are barred from doing business with gov't for 20 years - 20 year prison term for violators. Now we have set a benchmark that supposedly allow those insurance companies to make money. if they don't they they were lowbasllin­g their charges for our [corrupt] politician­s, and should be put away.

then for a few 100 billion a year max, subsidize those who can't afford they [low ] rates. end of problem.

one thing: any congresspe­rson or executive branch appointee getting a sweetheart deal--- 20 years in prison.

now we have step one to the system.
06:29 PM on 03/19/2009
Sam Stein need only scratch the surface to learn that Zeke is committed to any health care system as long as it is not a single payer system. In a presentati­on to the New Hampshire Medical Students Associatio­n in 2008 Emanuel stated without equivocati­on that a single payer system would not be an acceptable alternativ­e to the current arrangemen­t. He is not an honest broker for change because he has precluded from considerat­ion the only feasible alternativ­e. Does he have an actual investment in the current system, i.e. actual cash invested in the heatlh care/big pharma complex or is he on their tit as a useful tool - who knows - but surely it is an important question to ask of him?
05:52 PM on 03/19/2009
I don't trust him. And I don't believe he will work for the best interests of the people.

There. I said it.
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truthglow
06:24 PM on 03/19/2009
I AGREE, WHOLEHEART­EDLY!!! I WANT DR. DEAN!!!
schatsie
Wealth Taxes work in Germany and Switzerland
08:39 PM on 03/19/2009
I am giving Obama a few more months... I am beginning to think Dean might have a chance in 4 years....
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Bitsko
He of the smoldering eyes
06:26 PM on 03/19/2009
No reasons given, besides a vague feeling. Hmm, is that you Dick Cheney?
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maxfax
Taa - dah!
05:38 PM on 03/19/2009
Excise insurance companies from healthcare now.
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truthglow
06:25 PM on 03/19/2009
Yes. Medicare for all!!!!!! I have it, and it's great!!!
05:37 PM on 03/19/2009
Americans want identical plan Congress and the President enjoy.