Geithner To Propose Vast Expansion Of U.S. Oversight Of Financial System

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MARTIN CRUTSINGER | March 26, 2009 11:24 PM EST | AP

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House Financial Services Committee Chairman Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., opens a hearing on President Obama's proposals for an extensive overhaul of financial regulations, with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, there to defend the plan, Thursday, March 26, 2009, on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration's aggressive plan for strict scrutiny of hedge funds and other freewheeling investors, part of the biggest expansion of financial restraints since the Great Depression, is drawing instant opposition from Republican lawmakers and the rules' targets. And skeptics are questioning whether the new rulebook would work anyway.

Wall Street wizards have proved adept at designing complex financial products to sidestep existing regulations. And Vincent Reinhart, former director of monetary affairs at the Federal Reserve, says, "You're going to see firms try to figure out how to be under the radar."

For example, private equity investors might try to buy large hedge funds and chop them into funds that would be small enough to operate unregulated, Reinhart said.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, unveiling the plan Thursday, said the nation's economic crisis demands bold action.

"We need much stronger standards for openness, transparency and plain commonsense language throughout the financial system," he told the House Financial Services Committee.

The administration's proposals, which require congressional approval, include:

_ Imposing tougher standards on financial institutions that are judged to be so big that their failure would threaten the entire system.

_ Extending federal regulation for the first time to all trading in financial derivatives _ exotic instruments such as credit default swaps that are blamed for much of the economic carnage.

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_ Requiring larger hedge funds and other private pools of capital, including private equity and venture capital funds, to register with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

_ Creating a regulator to monitor the biggest institutions. Geithner did not say which agency should wield such authority, but the administration is expected to favor the Federal Reserve.

_ Empowering the government to take over major nonbank financial firms such as insurers and hedge funds if deemed necessary.

Committee Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., and many Democrats on the panel backed the proposals, while Republicans assailed them as too far-reaching.

Private analysts also questioned whether Geithner's plan would succeed in safeguarding the financial system.

"We're not in this mess because we need new rules," said Bill Fleckenstein, a Seattle-based hedge fund manager who accurately predicted the housing bubble. "We need to enforce the rules we already have," he said. "What we had was a complete breakdown by all our regulators. They simply didn't do their jobs."

And Fleckenstein said he didn't think requiring big hedge funds to register with the government would prevent devastating frauds like Bernard Madoff's Ponzi scheme.

"You could register all 10,000 hedge funds, and it probably would just overwhelm the regulator," he said.

Timothy Brog, portfolio manager of New York-based hedge fund Locksmith Capital Management, said stricter rules won't work properly if regulators become bogged down in policing individual funds rather than monitoring the investment products they trade. These include derivatives and mortgage-backed securities.

"It's not hedge funds that are a problem," Brog said. "The problem is the instruments they are trading. A $100 million hedge fund is not going to have a material effect on the overall market."

The outline of the regulatory plan was announced a week before President Barack Obama was to meet for talks with the Group of 20 major industrialized and developing countries to discuss solutions to the global crisis. European countries have said the U.S., where the financial problems began, must toughen its regulatory system.

The administration's plan also includes a provision that Geithner and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke discussed before the committee on Tuesday: to give the administration expanded powers to take over major nonbank financial institutions, such as insurance companies and hedge funds.

That power is aimed at preventing a repeat of the problems surrounding insurance giant American International Group Inc. AIG sparked a furor with news that it had distributed $165 million in bonuses to its financial products group. That unit specialized in trading credit default swaps, the derivatives that drove the company to near-collapse last fall.

The administration sent Congress a bill calling for the expanded powers to seize control of nonbank institutions late Wednesday. Frank has said this measure could win approval within weeks. And he said the administration's broader regulatory overhaul could win House approval by summer.

But Republicans wondered whether the overhaul would give federal regulators too much power.

"Forgive me if I am a skeptic ... when I hear that if we only have a systemic regulator it will never happen again," Rep. Scott Garrett, R-N.J., told Geithner.

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., a member of the Senate Banking Committee, praised Geithner's proposal as a "good first outline." But he said it would probably require "some major consolidating and rearranging" of regulatory agencies. Four separate agencies now regulate banks _ a system critics say produces overlapping lines of authority.

At a Senate Banking Committee hearing, SEC Chairman Mary Schapiro and key senators agreed it could be harmful for any one regulator to become too powerful.

"The devil is in the details," Schapiro said, adding she was concerned that "we don't create a monolithic entity."

To try to build support for the proposal, Obama is to meet Friday with major bank executives.

The proposal on credit default swaps and other derivatives would regulate the trading far more extensively. Some derivatives, such as stock options, already are regulated because they are traded on exchanges. The administration would expand regulation to derivatives that now trade mainly in the over-the-counter market, outside regulatory scrutiny.

Credit default swaps are contracts to insure against the default of certain debt. They played a key role in the downfall of investment banking giant Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. last fall and nearly destroyed AIG.

Larger hedge funds, private equity funds and venture capital funds above a certain level in assets would have to register with the SEC. Regulators would examine their books to determine if they should face greater scrutiny.

Hedge funds have grown explosively in recent years while operating secretively. They have lured an increasing number of ordinary investors, pension funds and university endowments _ meaning millions of people now unwittingly invest in hedge funds indirectly.

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AP Business Writers Marcy Gordon and Daniel Wagner in Washington, and Stevenson Jacobs in New York contributed to this report.

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- TXfemmom I'm a Fan of TXfemmom 214 fans permalink

Whatever Geitner's lofty ambitions on this, it is becoming more and more abundantly clear that AIG should have been put into bankruptcy and then had $100 billion guaranteed on regular, run-of-the-mill policies like disability, life, home, workman's comp, etc. and have put the derivatives and their junk crap at the bottom.

It is not too late to do so, just look at what has happened, declare that AIG did not tell the truth to the government, which is abundantly clear, declare it insolvent as of last fall, and everyone knows that on bankruptcy, ALL CONTRACTS ARE NULL AND VOID on things like derivatives, etc. Then, claw back the money paid at one hundred percent face value, and declare to those banks abroad that BANKRUPTCY LAW IS CLEAR ON THIS...either give back the money, or we will seize it one way or another. Offer them a settlement of five cents on the dollar, take it or leave it, and stop the flow of red ink.

Then, via the bankruptcy courts, we could actually control and find out what is going on at AIG.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 03/26/2009
- MsDoc I'm a Fan of MsDoc 49 fans permalink

You could also read the article in RollingStones. It's long, but clarifying...even I, economic mor on that I am, understood it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 03/26/2009

I like your ideas, but don't forget that Geithner is part of the Wall Street club where your ideas would never even be considered, let alone become policy. As a club member, Geithner must protect his friends and their assets, and what you propose does just the opposite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 03/26/2009
- AMP43 I'm a Fan of AMP43 4 fans permalink

Agreed- Geithner is PAULSON LIGHT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 03/26/2009

I care not for the welfare of the children of others lest they be of use to my children some day....
Some personal observations and aphorisms..

Life is too short to trouble with the problems and choices of others, a man who is of no benefit to me shall not benefit from me...

God is a construct in the mind of small and meaningless men that reveals their weakness of personal purpose and an inability to derive meaning from their own existence.

All morality that would be imposed by another by force or coercion is in fact no morality at all, a man is either moral or not as determined by his capacity and predilection to know what is best for him and his progeny and other responsibilities and commitments..

A man of no means and no ability has no moral struggle at all, he is not however unfettered in this, he is dependent and beholden like a beggar all the days of his life and of little consequence..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 03/26/2009
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 246 fans permalink
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Wow, so many thoughts to be crowded in such a small mind it is a wonder they all fit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 03/26/2009
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 352 fans permalink
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Thank you Matthew. You have with these few words (which are probrably not your's) summed up the heartless repubican' creed.

Perfect

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 03/26/2009
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OBEY THE DOGMA!

Remain mindless!

OBEY THE DOGMA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 03/26/2009
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Thanks for proving once again how small-minded, mean-spirited, cruel and heartless you really are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 03/26/2009
- MsDoc I'm a Fan of MsDoc 49 fans permalink

There seem to be many missing "faces" from the dialogue. Is there a new campground somewhere?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 03/26/2009

You reap what you sow pal. Looks like you'll be growing turds in no time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 03/26/2009
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MatthewHopkins is opposed to the morality set by religions while simultaneously groveling at the altar/dogma of Randism.

The irony is too much.LOL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 03/26/2009
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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The ironing is delicious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 03/26/2009
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Quick, we need more starch!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 03/26/2009
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New main.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 03/26/2009
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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Ooooooo.... AIG I hope....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 03/26/2009
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Lettuce pray.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 03/26/2009
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 166 fans permalink

The tighties here are rearing their ugly heads this afternoon. Nothing new there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 03/26/2009
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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Clowns, Inc.:


Sources: GOP leaders split on budget "blueprint"

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) raised objections to an abbreviated alternative budget "blueprint" released today -- but were told by House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) they needed to back the plan, according to several Republican sources. [...]

Ryan, the ranking Republican on the budget committee, plans to introduce a detailed substitute amendment for the Democrats' spending plan next Wednesday -- and still intends to do so.

But he and Cantor were reportedly told by Boehner and Republican Conference Chairman Mike Pence (R-Ind.) they needed to move more quickly to counter Democrats' charge they were becoming the "Party of No," according to House GOP staffers.

The 19-page document, prepared by Pence's office, was distributed two days after President Obama criticized Republicans for trashing his detail-crammed 142-page budget outline without producing a credible alternative.

"In his egocentric rush to get on camera, Mike Pence threw the rest of the Conference under the bus, specifically Paul Ryan, whose staff has been working night and day for weeks to develop a substantive budget plan," said a GOP aide heavily involved in budget strategy.

"I hope his camera time was gratifying enough to justify erasing the weeks of hard work by dozens of Republicans to put forth serious ideas," the person added.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0309/Aides_Cantor_Ryan_objected_to_GOPs_budget_blueprint.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 03/26/2009
- lj9283 I'm a Fan of lj9283 67 fans permalink
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Based on Rush's talking points what should one expect (it's a joke at best):

http://www.gop.gov/solutions/budget/road-to-recovery-final

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 03/26/2009

Gunwing See Profile I'm a Fan of Gunwing I'm a fan of this user permalink
Where did you dig up that trash? Chris Mathews show just lets the pundints shout at each other 24/7. So please don't use it as a source for information.

Also this fuss over what are known as Republicrats "Republicans in Dems clothing!" is nothing to get all flustered about just yet.


Does everyone agree with this on Mathews? I get ripped for mentioning how bad KO is. Mathews I think I enjoy more. KO just gets on my nerves. Clearly a misguided tr0//.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 03/26/2009
- dv416 I'm a Fan of dv416 2 fans permalink
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this is certainly a step in the right direction.

but i am wary.... should we really be giving more power to the fed? they have NO OVERSIGHT.
i mean, who regulates the regulators?

who watches the watchmen?

pop culture reference, whatsup

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 03/26/2009
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 296 fans permalink
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There is always a point where the buck stops. For oversight it will probably end up at the FED.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 03/26/2009
- badtimes I'm a Fan of badtimes 11 fans permalink

That's supposed to be our role, via the Fourth Estate. Hence the importance of the first amendment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 03/26/2009
- dv416 I'm a Fan of dv416 2 fans permalink
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fine. but its hard to keep an eye on what the fed is doing when its all behind closed doors.

lets get this passed....
http://blog.populistamerica.com/2009/03/federal-reserve-transparency-act/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 03/26/2009
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I am 100% certain that President Obama will build checks and balances into any system he comes up with. He is all about accountability.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 03/26/2009
- LibIrony I'm a Fan of LibIrony 2 fans permalink

Until it comes to hiring lobbyists, removing earmarks and allowing reasonable debate periods on bills. And that signing statement thing...approved. State secrets...approved. "Warrantless" wiretapping...approved. Can you be 100% certain of anything any politico promises?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 03/26/2009
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 166 fans permalink

Based upon the Administration of GWB and who is still in control of the Republican Party (Karl R., Cantor, McConnell, Boehner, Jindal, Palin, Bill O', Coulter, Rush, etc.) don't you just love it when a winger tries to lecture on the meaning of the Constitution?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 03/26/2009
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 352 fans permalink
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It sends me into fits of laughter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 03/26/2009
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I'd kinda like to sp*it on them

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 03/26/2009
- Xavieer I'm a Fan of Xavieer 90 fans permalink
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It's equivalent to watching "Saw XIV"........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 03/26/2009

Administration officials promised that the remaining issues would be hammered out in consultation with lawmakers with the goal of getting legislation approved as quickly as possible.[emphasis added]

Correct me if I'm wrong...but shouldn't something of this magnatude be hammered out slowly, sort of like a samurai sword of old? Heated and hammered, repeated over and over again until all of the imperfections are worked out? Seems that we have an opportunity here to save both the financial system, and American capitalism - and maybe we should take our time and do it right for a change.

These idiots on the hill.....jesus.....though I suppose I'm contributing to the problem by subscribing to sites like this, the 24/7 news cycle....problems abound.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 03/26/2009
- Lionsden I'm a Fan of Lionsden 24 fans permalink

The great statesman, Congressman Ron Paul gives the president's tax cheat a lesson on separation of powers and rule of law.

Geithner had no understanding of our justice system or our Constitution.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026039.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 03/26/2009
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Here come the woo-woos. Lots of utopians here today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 03/26/2009
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Why can't this genius win an election?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 03/26/2009
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And the Bush Crime Family did?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 03/26/2009
- LibIrony I'm a Fan of LibIrony 2 fans permalink

Yes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 03/26/2009
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You showed your hand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 03/26/2009
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 120 fans permalink
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The Repubes unveil:

Plan 9 From Louder Space

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 03/26/2009
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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When do they pull out the rubber octopus....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 03/26/2009
- TheMavsIn6 I'm a Fan of TheMavsIn6 8 fans permalink

Don't we get the Exit Strategy on Afghanistan tomorrow?

I wonder what phrase will be used to avoid saying "cut and run"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 03/26/2009
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Bush effd up

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 03/26/2009
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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LOL. Just like old times...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 03/26/2009
- KDH I'm a Fan of KDH 21 fans permalink
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bbbbut O'reilly said bush defeated Al-Qaeda?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 03/26/2009
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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And Hannity said we surrendered. Go figure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 03/26/2009
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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"We're cleaning up the failures of the past 8 years" would work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 03/26/2009
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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T-Newman:
hotmail.comr@hotmail.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 03/26/2009
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YAY!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 03/26/2009
- TheMavsIn6 I'm a Fan of TheMavsIn6 8 fans permalink

Good.

Another one bites the dust, hey hey!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 03/26/2009
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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I think they have a pill for premature celebration...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 03/26/2009
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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Only the Mavs continue to bite the dust. Typically Texan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 03/26/2009

Nochnoi See Profile I'm a Fan of Nochnoi permalink
Swell.... greedy much?
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Plenty, and I have no problem with it.

The entire concept of greed ( a "sin") is a construction of old world religious thinkers and halfwits who needed a pejorative name or term for those who succeed that would inflame the masses and rally them to extract from the successful what they could not obtain through their own wiles, ability and labor.. or were to lazy to do so..

It’s a concept for the weak minded foisted on them by petty moralists so as to garner their faith and favor..

It’s high time we cut the losers and leaches lose to fend for themselves along with all the quaint little “faithful” of arcane systems of deity dictated morality and fairness…

No such thing exists…

Lions do not moralize over the fate of the Impala they would have for lunch nor over the Hyena they k ill defending their lunch…

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 03/26/2009
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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GO GALT already dingleberry. Make sure to write us from Matthew-topia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 03/26/2009

I am....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 03/26/2009
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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How amazingly dull....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 03/26/2009
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Such simplistic thinking.Shallow as a puddle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 03/26/2009
- KDH I'm a Fan of KDH 21 fans permalink
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You looked all that up on the rethug-a pedia....all by yourself!
((((((BOO)))))))

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 03/26/2009
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lions and impalas are two different species with two different evolutionary paths. That's not even close to a relevant analogy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 03/26/2009
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