Geithner To Propose Vast Expansion Of U.S. Oversight Of Financial System

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MARTIN CRUTSINGER | March 26, 2009 11:24 PM EST | AP

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House Financial Services Committee Chairman Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., opens a hearing on President Obama's proposals for an extensive overhaul of financial regulations, with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, there to defend the plan, Thursday, March 26, 2009, on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration's aggressive plan for strict scrutiny of hedge funds and other freewheeling investors, part of the biggest expansion of financial restraints since the Great Depression, is drawing instant opposition from Republican lawmakers and the rules' targets. And skeptics are questioning whether the new rulebook would work anyway.

Wall Street wizards have proved adept at designing complex financial products to sidestep existing regulations. And Vincent Reinhart, former director of monetary affairs at the Federal Reserve, says, "You're going to see firms try to figure out how to be under the radar."

For example, private equity investors might try to buy large hedge funds and chop them into funds that would be small enough to operate unregulated, Reinhart said.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, unveiling the plan Thursday, said the nation's economic crisis demands bold action.

"We need much stronger standards for openness, transparency and plain commonsense language throughout the financial system," he told the House Financial Services Committee.

The administration's proposals, which require congressional approval, include:

_ Imposing tougher standards on financial institutions that are judged to be so big that their failure would threaten the entire system.

_ Extending federal regulation for the first time to all trading in financial derivatives _ exotic instruments such as credit default swaps that are blamed for much of the economic carnage.

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_ Requiring larger hedge funds and other private pools of capital, including private equity and venture capital funds, to register with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

_ Creating a regulator to monitor the biggest institutions. Geithner did not say which agency should wield such authority, but the administration is expected to favor the Federal Reserve.

_ Empowering the government to take over major nonbank financial firms such as insurers and hedge funds if deemed necessary.

Committee Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., and many Democrats on the panel backed the proposals, while Republicans assailed them as too far-reaching.

Private analysts also questioned whether Geithner's plan would succeed in safeguarding the financial system.

"We're not in this mess because we need new rules," said Bill Fleckenstein, a Seattle-based hedge fund manager who accurately predicted the housing bubble. "We need to enforce the rules we already have," he said. "What we had was a complete breakdown by all our regulators. They simply didn't do their jobs."

And Fleckenstein said he didn't think requiring big hedge funds to register with the government would prevent devastating frauds like Bernard Madoff's Ponzi scheme.

"You could register all 10,000 hedge funds, and it probably would just overwhelm the regulator," he said.

Timothy Brog, portfolio manager of New York-based hedge fund Locksmith Capital Management, said stricter rules won't work properly if regulators become bogged down in policing individual funds rather than monitoring the investment products they trade. These include derivatives and mortgage-backed securities.

"It's not hedge funds that are a problem," Brog said. "The problem is the instruments they are trading. A $100 million hedge fund is not going to have a material effect on the overall market."

The outline of the regulatory plan was announced a week before President Barack Obama was to meet for talks with the Group of 20 major industrialized and developing countries to discuss solutions to the global crisis. European countries have said the U.S., where the financial problems began, must toughen its regulatory system.

The administration's plan also includes a provision that Geithner and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke discussed before the committee on Tuesday: to give the administration expanded powers to take over major nonbank financial institutions, such as insurance companies and hedge funds.

That power is aimed at preventing a repeat of the problems surrounding insurance giant American International Group Inc. AIG sparked a furor with news that it had distributed $165 million in bonuses to its financial products group. That unit specialized in trading credit default swaps, the derivatives that drove the company to near-collapse last fall.

The administration sent Congress a bill calling for the expanded powers to seize control of nonbank institutions late Wednesday. Frank has said this measure could win approval within weeks. And he said the administration's broader regulatory overhaul could win House approval by summer.

But Republicans wondered whether the overhaul would give federal regulators too much power.

"Forgive me if I am a skeptic ... when I hear that if we only have a systemic regulator it will never happen again," Rep. Scott Garrett, R-N.J., told Geithner.

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., a member of the Senate Banking Committee, praised Geithner's proposal as a "good first outline." But he said it would probably require "some major consolidating and rearranging" of regulatory agencies. Four separate agencies now regulate banks _ a system critics say produces overlapping lines of authority.

At a Senate Banking Committee hearing, SEC Chairman Mary Schapiro and key senators agreed it could be harmful for any one regulator to become too powerful.

"The devil is in the details," Schapiro said, adding she was concerned that "we don't create a monolithic entity."

To try to build support for the proposal, Obama is to meet Friday with major bank executives.

The proposal on credit default swaps and other derivatives would regulate the trading far more extensively. Some derivatives, such as stock options, already are regulated because they are traded on exchanges. The administration would expand regulation to derivatives that now trade mainly in the over-the-counter market, outside regulatory scrutiny.

Credit default swaps are contracts to insure against the default of certain debt. They played a key role in the downfall of investment banking giant Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. last fall and nearly destroyed AIG.

Larger hedge funds, private equity funds and venture capital funds above a certain level in assets would have to register with the SEC. Regulators would examine their books to determine if they should face greater scrutiny.

Hedge funds have grown explosively in recent years while operating secretively. They have lured an increasing number of ordinary investors, pension funds and university endowments _ meaning millions of people now unwittingly invest in hedge funds indirectly.

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AP Business Writers Marcy Gordon and Daniel Wagner in Washington, and Stevenson Jacobs in New York contributed to this report.

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- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 160 fans permalink

The Democratic Party is doing a good job of re-branding the righties. And Geithner and the President are doing the right thing in demanding sweeping oversight of the financial criminal institutions who have brought this nation to the brink of a full on economic depression. Republicans. Get used to losing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 03/26/2009
- SecondBase I'm a Fan of SecondBase 37 fans permalink
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Not re-branding.

Revealing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 03/26/2009
- Hopeington I'm a Fan of Hopeington 93 fans permalink
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I just love my president!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 03/26/2009
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 337 fans permalink
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What they'll never admit, is that they brought this onto themselves. Like any criminal in denial, it's always somone else's fault they are behind bars, never their own behaviour that put them there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 03/26/2009
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 337 fans permalink
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MatthewHopkins is a trust fund baby and hasn't worked a day in his life, but he "DESERVES" to be rich. He has the Tucker Bounds and Tucker Carlson (What's with the Tucker first name, because it rhymes with F...cker?) look and HEY, it's ME - demanding first consideration attitude.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 03/26/2009
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 271 fans permalink
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Personal attack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 03/26/2009
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 337 fans permalink
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He's not a person, he's a Consciousness, a mental thought form that hovers around people like you and him, clouds their vision, hardens the heart, blinds them to compassion and gives them the delusion of separation and superiority. It's the one thing that creats wars, greed, misery and suffering.

Try to fight your way free from it amigo. Jesus would approve.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 03/26/2009

No, he made all his own money and has no desire to have it extracted from him by life's losers...

Nor does he wish to be told by others to whom he should extend the hand of charity if should choose to do so..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 03/26/2009
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You sound like another one of the "it's all about me party", the Rethuglican party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 03/26/2009

life's losers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 03/26/2009
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MatthewHopkins is a case study of how the mind of a selfish soc iopath justifies stealing a country's resources for personal gain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 03/26/2009
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There are c.annibals amongst us.But they are far from fine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 03/26/2009
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She drives me crazy.;-P

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 03/26/2009

The only ones stealing are those who would seek to confiscate the gains of others to redistribute to those who have little or no gains of their own in order to bring themselves power and prestige among the masses of losers and hangers on..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 03/26/2009
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Would you like a drivel bib?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 03/26/2009
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 99 fans permalink
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And you produce what, exactly, that has brought you such vast riches?

Besides B*** S***, that is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 03/26/2009

Anytime those gains have been gotten through lies, book-cooking, and deceptive dealings, those who have benefitted from them should be imprisoned. It's a shame we don't have hard labor anymore, it would do ken lay's family a world of good to have to make little rocks out of big ones in one of the many unsafe coal mines we still operate in the Apalachian district of the nation. The same sentence for the repub judge and that judge's family who decided that lay's family didn't have to return the money daddy-o had bilked the workers out of before the grim reaper took him out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 03/26/2009

Once again the average American is being thrown under the Goldman Sachs/Geit­ner/Paulse­n bus with the toxic asset sale plan. The big fish are getting a no lose maximum gain proposition with only a few "selected players" allowed to participate while the rest of us get to stand by a pay up like the schnooks I suppose we are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 03/26/2009

A Meat Beetle See Profile I'm a Fan of A Meat Beetle I'm a fan of this user permalink
"...has anyone asked the Bluedog Dems?"

Why should anyone ask them? They have nothing relevant to add. They're just too c h i c k e to take a firm stand so they are "moderate". All they amount to is Republican Lite and we already have established that the Republicans have nothing to offer that will help ordinary working people.

And here is what God says about moderates:

"I know all the things you do, that you are neither hot nor cold. I wish that you were one or the other! But since you are like lukewarm water, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth!"

Revelation 3:15-16

Well at least all things are equal, we have Rs trying to be more like Ds and vice versa. And for your quote from the bible, I think the reference is to moderate christians, not political idealogies. You are either a believer or your not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 03/26/2009
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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Anyone know what junebug is talking about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 03/26/2009
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Not usually.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 03/26/2009
- pfc1369 I'm a Fan of pfc1369 99 fans permalink
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If Phil Gramm was Phil Wang, he would have been sentenced for "economic crimes" long ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 03/26/2009
- TXfemmom I'm a Fan of TXfemmom 196 fans permalink

I think your premise is incorrect. Had Phil Wang done the same things as Phil Gramm, have belonged to the Republican Party, had a wife who helped demolish Enron, and then went on to help bring down the entire financial system of the world, while making huge bucks at UBS in assisting them in helping hugely rich Americans avoid paying what little tax they would have paid under Bush, then he would still be free and safe, as Phil Gramm is for the moment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 03/26/2009
- Gunga-Din I'm a Fan of Gunga-Din 7 fans permalink
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A bunch of clueless

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 03/26/2009
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Fragment

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 03/26/2009

The guy who can't properly answer clear questions from TurboTax now asks America to trust his recommendation on this vast expansion of oversight and power? What credibility does he possibly have left?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 03/26/2009
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Socialism ACORN Birth Certificate.

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- TheMavsIn6 I'm a Fan of TheMavsIn6 8 fans permalink

Teleprompter Allinsky Transparency

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- badtimes I'm a Fan of badtimes 11 fans permalink

Secret Muslin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 03/26/2009
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Rezko Ayers whitey tape

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 03/26/2009
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Whateveh.Y­ou just asked someone to give you the definition of "working men and women".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 03/26/2009
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Remember the GOP SLOGAN: "AMERICA FIRST!"

It should have READ "THE WALL STREET AMERICA FIRST!"

This keeps the FUNDS from WALL STREET FLOWING into the GOP!

Hoping to CAPTURE a bigger share of the $5 Billion Wall Street Gives Congress!

About $3.5 Million every four years on average per Member of Congress and far more for the ones that sit on Wall Street Committees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 03/26/2009
- Lionsden I'm a Fan of Lionsden 24 fans permalink

I want to year you complain about the heist by congress and White House called the budget. Then I might believe you are upset about Wall Street.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 03/26/2009
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That is exactly what the Lobbyists for Insurance, OIL, Pharmaceutical, Military, and Hospital Corporations are saying! They want the STATUS QUE where they make RECORD PROFITS while ruining 99.9% of Americans!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 03/26/2009

Um.....hat­e to really burst your bubble, but, uh...they'­re buying Democrats too...star­ted in '97. Apologies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 03/26/2009
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Did not say otherwise! Just that GOP Proposal is out to capture a larger amount of the Dirty Lobby Money!

Best result is complete campaign funding reform, limiting a corporation's total donations to a total to $2,500 and same $2,500 from Lobby organizations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 03/26/2009
- McChimp I'm a Fan of McChimp 162 fans permalink
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Contessa Brewer called Republican Reps saying that there was no plan from the Republicans and that it was more criticism.­..

The Reps told her "You don't understand the difference­."

More Reps playing the same old same old political games.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 03/26/2009
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 321 fans permalink
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Today, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) released a GOP budget called “The Republican Road to Recovery.”

Q: So you don’t have the numbers now? About what you’re plan would be in terms of how it would cut the deficit or add to the deficit? You don’t have any numbers on that?

PENCE: Well, it’s really a broad – when the White House a few minutes ago was attacking the numbers in this bill, the tax cut numbers. There’s plenty of numbers in the Republican recovery plan. And we just really believe the President’s plan to raise taxes by nearly 2 trillion dollars on almost every American…deserves a debate on Capitol Hill.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/26/pence-gop-deficit/

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 03/26/2009
- Xavieer I'm a Fan of Xavieer 90 fans permalink
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Go to the "Gangster's Hideout", infiltrate the criminal organization steal the neo-con budget plan,(It's the 19 pg comic book) and return to us with it's contents..­..Can ya do that Mavs......­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 03/26/2009
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That reminds me of Dancing With Wolves, when they found the book that had his orders, and they used it as toilet tissue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 03/26/2009
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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LOL. When can we tune in for episode 2?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 03/26/2009
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MatthewHop­kins...

I am the Witch Doctor.

*****~magic spell~*****

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 03/26/2009
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 271 fans permalink
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Personal attack. Trite, boring, disruptive, and off-topic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 03/26/2009
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That's you all right, Rami.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 03/26/2009
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Take a hike.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 03/26/2009
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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Yes, you are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 03/26/2009
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Theme song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlPVuIDsCag

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 03/26/2009

From watching Chris Mathews last night, it does not look good for Pres Obama getting everything he wants done. Healthcare will be real tough, they money just isn't there. His worst fear is dealing with conservative dems who aren't exactly jumping on board and are up for re election in their districts.

Keep in mind folks, your party may not be conservative, but those who vote for them are....and that's something that won't change for at least another 10 years.

Hold onto your hats, its gonna be a fun ride!

Obama really only has one year to get all this done, and it will be an uphill battle as much as people here do not recognize that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 03/26/2009

I think we need to be patient and realize that long term solutions take time to set roots and we won't see real results tomorrow. Hopefully enough voters understand that. The Obama administration inherited this disaster..­.and it is an uphill battle. But those opposed are offering no viable solutions - they just squawk about tax cuts and free markets and don't really have any new ideas. so they just say no to everything­...hence the uphill battle being even harder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 03/26/2009

Again, he doesn't have a lot of time, not when poll numbers drop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 03/26/2009

And they always do...nothi­ng against Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 03/26/2009
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Thanks for your concern.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 03/26/2009
- Gunwing I'm a Fan of Gunwing 5 fans permalink

Where did you dig up that trash? Chris Mathews show just lets the pundints shout at each other 24/7. So please don't use it as a source for information.

Also this fuss over what are known as Republicrats "Republicans in Dems clothing!" is nothing to get all flustered about just yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 03/26/2009
- dsws I'm a Fan of dsws 12 fans permalink
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Dems in Congress will be judged along with the administration. If the Obama agenda yields good results, even conservative districts will re-elect their Democratic congresspeople. If not, even conservative districts won't reward their representatives for throwing sand in the works.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 03/26/2009

I'm all for a society in which winners win, and losers lose.

Since there will always be more losers, the winners need to do two things, provide the losers with the least they will accept to live peaceably and create forces to defend themselves and their wealth against those who won't...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 03/26/2009
- TheMavsIn6 I'm a Fan of TheMavsIn6 8 fans permalink

So not every kid gets a trophy and no more red ink on school papers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 03/26/2009

A good start...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 03/26/2009
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 337 fans permalink
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Ayn Rand, and I thought she was d...ea...d­. Huh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 03/26/2009
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N.ecrophel­ia.They're into some weird stuff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 03/26/2009
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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Swell.... greedy much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 03/26/2009
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Were you sipping a nice glass of Chianti while you wrote that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 03/26/2009
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In the NFL the losers get big contracts too

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 03/26/2009
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