Saudi Women Boycott Lingerie Shops Until They Start Employing Women

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DONNA ABU-NASR | March 25, 2009 09:22 PM EST | AP

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A Saudi woman holding a child checks out lingerie at a store in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Wednesday, March 25, 2009. A group of Saudi woman launched a campaign Tuesday aimed at bringing in female sales personnel at lingerie stores. Only men are allowed to sell underwear in almost all stores in this ultraconservative kingdom, making the experience of shopping for intimate apparel for most women embarrassing. (AP Photo/Hassan Ammar)

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Before her wedding last year, Huda Batterjee went abroad to buy her bridal lingerie _ she just couldn't bear the humiliation of discussing her most intimate apparel with a man. She had little choice: there are almost no saleswomen in Saudi Arabia. Now a group of Saudi women _ sick of having to deal with male sales staff when buying bras or panties, not to mention frilly negligees or thongs _ have launched a campaign this week to boycott lingerie stores until they employ women.

It's an irony of the kingdom's strict segregation of the sexes. Only men are employed as sales staff to keep women from having to deal with male customers or work around men.

But in lingerie stores, that means men are talking to women about bras or thongs, looking them up and down to determine their cup sizes, even rubbing the underwear to show how stains can be washed out.

The result is mortifying for everyone involved _ shoppers, salesmen, even the male relatives who accompany the women.

"When I buy underwear in Saudi, some salesmen say, 'This is not the right size for you,'" said Batterjee. "You feel almost taken advantage of. Why is he looking at me in this way?"

So for her wedding trousseau, the 26-year-old went to neighboring Dubai to shop. She now lives in Virginia with her husband.

Heba al-Akki, a businesswoman who supports the boycott, said when she shops for underwear, "I go to a store, pick this, this and that and leave quickly. It's as if I'm buying illegal stuff."

It's not easy on the salesmen either.

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At one lingerie boutique in a Riyadh mall Wednesday, salesmen blushed when asked about their jobs. All said they back the campaign to hire female sales staff.

"Even in such open regions as the U.S. and Europe, men do not sell underwear to women," said store manager Husam al-Mutayim, a 27-year-old Egyptian. "I don't let any of my female relatives buy underwear from men. It's just too embarrassing."

Mannequins _ headless in keeping with a ban on realistic depictions of women _ were displayed in the shop window dressed in modest pajamas. Inside, racks held an array of colorful bras, lacy panties and sexy nighties _ along with more day-to-day undergarments.

Under Saudi Arabia's strict interpretation of Islamic law, women are required to cover themselves head-to-toe in black robes in public. But in the privacy of their own homes _ and bedrooms _ they can wear whatever they want, and sexy undergarments are popular.

But buying them is another story. Fitting rooms are banned in the kingdom _ the idea of a woman undressing in a public place with men just outside is unthinkable. So a woman is never sure she has chosen the right size until she gets it home.

"I have bras with sizes ranging from 32 to 38 because I can't get to try them on," said Modie Batterjee, Huda's sister and one of the boycott organizers.

Even male relatives get dragged into the embarrassment. Women are allowed to shop without a male relative, but husbands or brothers sometimes insist on coming along _ or the women want them there _ to ensure salesmen stay respectful.

Modie Batterjee recalls how her husband fled a lingerie store because he could not bear to hear her explain to a salesman that she wanted high-waisted underwear to hold in her tummy after their daughter's birth.

The boycott was launched on Tuesday by about 50 women who gathered in the Red Sea port of Jiddah at the Al-Bidaya Breast-feeding Resource and Women's Awareness Center, which is run by Modie Batterjee.

The aim is to push for implementation of a law that has been on the books since 2006 which says only female staff can be employed in women's apparel stores.

The law has never been put into effect, partly due to hard-liners in the religious establishment who oppose employing women in mixed environments like malls, where religious police are always on the lookout to keep men and women from interacting.

Hiring women would also deprive men of jobs in a country where more than 10 percent of men are unemployed.

"We are raising awareness and calling for the implementation of the law," said Reem Asaad, a finance lecturer at Dar al-Hikma Women's College in Jiddah, who supports the boycott.

The campaign calls on women to shop at the country's few women-only lingerie stores. Usually stand-alone boutiques or located in malls that have women-only sections, these shops have no windows to ensure passing men cannot look in _ and giving women the freedom to actually try things on.

How much impact the boycott call will have is unclear. Almost 1,700 people signed an online petition posted by Asaad on the social networking Web site Facebook. A few Saudi papers have written about it, but the campaign depends mostly on word of mouth.

Not all women support the idea. At the Riyadh lingerie shop on Wednesday, one woman _ only her eyes visible through the black veil covering her face _ said she is suspicious of women-only lingerie shops.

"Bad things happen there," she said.

What might that be?

Women can sneak a picture of you changing with their mobile phones, she replied and refused to give her name.

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Before her wedding last year, Huda Batterjee went abroad to buy her bridal lingerie _ she just couldn't bear the humiliation of discussing her most intimate apparel with a...
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Before her wedding last year, Huda Batterjee went abroad to buy her bridal lingerie _ she just couldn't bear the humiliation of discussing her most intimate apparel with a...
 
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- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 83 fans permalink
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Yes, my dear sister, YES. Take charge of your lives. Do NOT let men run your lives. You are FREE BEAUTIFUL BEINGS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 03/26/2009
- fbr79 I'm a Fan of fbr79 12 fans permalink
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Religions and the ridiculous societies built around them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 03/26/2009
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Going Commando Under The Burqa ... like who would know ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 03/26/2009
- Beka13 I'm a Fan of Beka13 20 fans permalink
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I hope these women are successful! That would be awful even by American standards! There are many good things coming out of Saudi Arabia that could start changing things for women in the Middle East.

As far as the concept that middle eastern men cannot control themselves which is why these women need to cover themselves and Western men are so much more civilized which is why we can dress half naked is a myth.

I propose that we all wear a burqua in solidarity never to be taken off for any man until they learn to not objectify us....which leads to domestic violence and murder....At least over there they are called honor killings...Here its just another woman killed because a man could not control his emotions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 03/26/2009

"a ban on realistic depictions of women "
here in the West we have a unwritten ban.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 03/26/2009
- TXfemmom I'm a Fan of TXfemmom 191 fans permalink

The men are the ones with the dirty thoughts, so they force the women to live like this because they cannot control their thoughts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 03/25/2009
- blimie I'm a Fan of blimie 14 fans permalink

Good for them for taking a stand. Hope it is effective.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 03/25/2009
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Oppression sure takes a lot of work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 03/25/2009
- booboo111 I'm a Fan of booboo111 76 fans permalink
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Why don't you see any men in our shops selling women's under> wear. I see women selling men's under.wear. I'd work part time at Victoria's secret for free. I'd consider it a privilege and an honor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 03/25/2009
- TheNuff I'm a Fan of TheNuff 6 fans permalink

I have seen men working there. There is no ban.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 AM on 03/26/2009
- Beka13 I'm a Fan of Beka13 20 fans permalink
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If you make us into an object instead of a person you are more likely to treat us like an object instead of a Human being.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 03/26/2009
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Oh, they'll just send their eunuchs to buy the frilly stuff!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 03/25/2009
- RIXX I'm a Fan of RIXX 2 fans permalink

Jobs for Americans are available for that purpose

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 03/25/2009
- Taxi I'm a Fan of Taxi 34 fans permalink

Clearly this is not about Moslems or Islam, but about archaic social traditions.

I hope some bloggers out there can tell the difference.

Remember, once upon a time, women the world over were oppressed thus.

Men too. It's called 'in times of slavery'.

Those were bad times indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 03/25/2009
- Gasparilla I'm a Fan of Gasparilla 30 fans permalink

Time to come into at least, maybe the 18th century?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 03/25/2009
- Horst I'm a Fan of Horst 24 fans permalink

Even the 11th would be an improvement....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 03/26/2009

They will be there as soon as the oil runs out. Their wealthy elite like to spend money on themselves and their palaces instead of infrastructure or their population, and it won't take long after the oil runs out for them to go back to being a loose collection of Bedouin tribes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 03/26/2009

i wonder wherei could get some traditional saudi outfits, me and my g/f will have a wonderful time roleplaying Oppressor and Oppressed .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 03/25/2009
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Religion poisons everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 03/25/2009
- mommadona I'm a Fan of mommadona 160 fans permalink
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I hope all ladies involved with ORGANIZED religion finally 'get' this - and stop enabling these institutions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 03/25/2009

Wow! people are starting to get it. It only took a few million years, but they are finally seeing the light.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 03/26/2009
- gevan I'm a Fan of gevan 18 fans permalink

Women of the World, Unite! Boycott lingerie until Saudi shops hire women. Like commandos driving the businesses of Arabia to their knees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 03/25/2009

How about just boycotting Saudi Arabia? Lingerie is the least of their problems. Arab men couldn't care less what the women wear under their traditional costumes. They will do what they want when they want to their women no matter what Americans or their own women have to say about it. There are huge problems on the horizon for S.A. because they are too slow at adapting to the real world. In 100 years or so, there will be no such thing as Saudi Arabia. They can't support a population that large without oil, and the oil is running out. They can't grow much food in the desert anyway. Whenever they need our help, I'm sure we will drop everything to help them....if they have plenty of oil. If they run out, we will go back to treating them like Africa.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 03/26/2009
- crayola 08 I'm a Fan of crayola 08 3 fans permalink
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wow. i didn't even know they were allowed to wear panties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 03/25/2009
- piul05 I'm a Fan of piul05 52 fans permalink
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I've met a handful of Saudi ladies in my life, and believe me, they do like their clothes raunchy. And they also love labels, blings and heavy make-up. I was often subjected to photographs of familiy gatherings because they wanted to show me how well they looked in a particular outfit and, more importantly, how a particular relative had the look of a "mutton dresssed as lamb".

Bi*chness does seem to be a universal trait.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 03/26/2009
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